Borough Park, NY - Red Paint Attack For Woman That Tried To Stop Kaporos Ritual [video] |
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Photo Gothamist.comBorough Park, NY - Usually the animal activists are the ones tossing the red paint, but last night a woman’s home was targeted, allegedly because she’s the founding member of the Alliance to End Chickens as Kapparos (which is the annual chicken sacrificing ritual performed around Yom Kippur). Rina Deych told us:
I have our banner hanging on the second floor of my 3-family house in Brooklyn. When my son came home at 11:30 this evening (11/13/2010), he woke me up to inform me that someone had splattered red paint all over our front door and porch. Although we suspected it was anger at our banner, we weren’t sure until, while giving a police report, we noticed that someone had painted our sign with a roller.
Freedom of speech is legal. Destruction of private property is not. This act of vandalism is particularly troubling—especially since it was clearly done by so-called religious people.
Deych has called the Shomrim, who “said they could probably not help.” While the paint doesn’t seem to be that plentiful, she also noted that she and her son are asthmatic “and these fumes are detrimental to us and to our rescued animals.”
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Yom kippur is still a long time away and who is she to stop a religious custom. She can shlug kapores with whatever she wants and include the avera of stopping other people from doing a minhag. Does she live right next to a kaporas center?
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM yaakov doe Says:Report as Inappropriate
Whoever did this is just giving publicity to this woman and her causes, which I assume is the opposite of what they wanted.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM Rachel W. Says:Report as Inappropriate
Not to condone such uncivilized behavior -- but Deych's acts of protest are "fumes" detrimental to us. As for the sloppy painter, you may be feeling better after unleashing some of your anger, but your redneck approach won't do our cause a whit of good.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:32 PM Babishka Says:Report as Inappropriate
How do they know the vandalism was "clearly done by so-called religious people"? Have perps been arrested?
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM hmmmm Says:Report as Inappropriate
Although I'm against destroying someones property, and its osur to do this legally and halachicly, I do have hanoha that someone had the guts. She's A PETA agent.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:47 PM animal lover. (human) Says:Report as Inappropriate
what?!?! its not healthy to her animals health? does this imply that she has her beloved animals living at her house? perhaps she wants to save these kaparos lives and let them join using her bathroom! or perrhaps she agrees she's the animal!
freedom of speech is permitted. freedom of religion is guaranteed. first you make it into a fight not about religion, then you deny that Heinous mutilation by first beheading the kapooreh! (now its not a religous right.!!!!
sheim resha'im yirkav!
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:49 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
The article is starting : "Usually the animal activists are the ones tossing the red paint"..
I think this says it all, this was probably a "self inflicted" wound, common practice for attention seekers to draw attention to themselves by playing "nirdef', especially the animal and wildlife activists would do the most weird things to draw public attention.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:49 PM KAHANAwasRIGHT Says:Report as Inappropriate
Great, what's good for the goos, is good for the gander.... A little taste of her own medicine.
The onle way it could've been better, they should've dumped the paint on her head.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:51 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I don't think this has to do with kaporos, its not the season now, the only ppl thinking now of kaporos are the animal lovers/human haters..
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Nov 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Yom kippur is still a long time away and who is she to stop a religious custom. She can shlug kapores with whatever she wants and include the avera of stopping other people from doing a minhag. Does she live right next to a kaporas center? ”
America is not Israel. She has freedom of speech. She didn't attack anyone. She didn't damage anyone's property. What aveira are you speaking of stopping someone from doing a minhag? Don't make things up!!!
When we had a temple, then we are allowed to do kapparos. We no longer have a temple yet! This minhag isn't a Jewish mitzvah for modern times, as much as it is an chassidich ritual.
America is for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Religious actions and rituals can be limited by civil and federal laws. Therefore if American finds whipping a chicken around your head to be harmful, will you then throw red paint on government property?
Shame on your shomrim. A real man will stand up for these activities that are wrong since it is a chillul hashem. She may be wrong for judging a religion she problem doesn't know of just as our own are wrong for destroying her property. Now America will see on the news "Jews destroying property"
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:12 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
If she has animals there, someone needs to report HER for cruelty and health menace, time and time again. Red paint is STUPID and counterproductive, but knowing these behema freaks she may well have done it herself.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:20 PM AuthenticSatmar Says:Report as Inappropriate
She probably did it herself to get attention.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:20 PM realbrisk Says:Report as Inappropriate
vandalism doubt other then reaching it from her porch how was someone able to reach it with a roller i believe it was self inflicted to get some attention an beside she recently repainted her steps what happened to the asthma
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:23 PM The Professor Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Great, what's good for the goos, is good for the gander.... A little taste of her own medicine.
The onle way it could've been better, they should've dumped the paint on her head. ”
And what is "a little taste of her own medicine?" Does she run around dumping red paint on people who shlug kappores? Are people allowed to disagree with your minhagim and not be thought of as anti-Semites? Is a person allowed to believe that chickens should not be processed on an otherwise residential block, and not have to endure the stench of rotting chicken entrails for at all hours days on end simply because you want the ritual to be convenient? You seem to be rather seIf-centered about this whole matter. If t'shuvah involves ridding oneself of egoistic thoughts, it may well be that it is you who need to re-think the entire concept.
BTW, your ability to quote an old English proverb, and spell properly, is atrocious. The correct quote is: "what's SAUCE for the goose is SAUCE for the gander!"
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:24 PM Boochie Says:Report as Inappropriate
Like mentioned above - she did it to herself to get her name in the paper
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:31 PM shmelke Says:Report as Inappropriate
So, her proof that this was directed at her because of the Kapporos thing is that someone used a roller on her sign. What this tells me is that someone got on her balcony and painted her house, and she somehow did not hear all the commotion?
I smell a rat. Besides, the Jews are done with kappores and are focusing their efforts on abusing potatoes for latkes.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51 PM menash Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The article is starting : "Usually the animal activists are the ones tossing the red paint"..
I think this says it all, this was probably a "self inflicted" wound, common practice for attention seekers to draw attention to themselves by playing "nirdef', especially the animal and wildlife activists would do the most weird things to draw public attention. ”
looks like she painted the banner from her porch and couldn't reach the bottom of the banner she painted only the top I believe if somebody from downstairs would surely reach the ottom first
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Nov 14, 2010 at 02:12 PM abeytt03 Says:Report as Inappropriate
Not the right thing to do, but awesome nonetheless. Give em a taste of their own medicine.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 02:48 PM mushroomsrock Says:Report as Inappropriate
Its not rituall sacrifice if the chickens are eaten the article makes it sound like jews kill chickens and burn them or somthing
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Nov 14, 2010 at 02:58 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I fully agree with those that think she did it herself to draw attention. She is a nutty lady who runs around to all kapora centers screaming "my father was a shohchait" blah blah blah. The observation that the bottom of the sign wasn't painted seems a great one.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 02:58 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ America is not Israel. She has freedom of speech. She didn't attack anyone. She didn't damage anyone's property. What aveira are you speaking of stopping someone from doing a minhag? Don't make things up!!!
When we had a temple, then we are allowed to do kapparos. We no longer have a temple yet! This minhag isn't a Jewish mitzvah for modern times, as much as it is an chassidich ritual.
America is for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Religious actions and rituals can be limited by civil and federal laws. Therefore if American finds whipping a chicken around your head to be harmful, will you then throw red paint on government property?
Shame on your shomrim. A real man will stand up for these activities that are wrong since it is a chillul hashem. She may be wrong for judging a religion she problem doesn't know of just as our own are wrong for destroying her property. Now America will see on the news "Jews destroying property" ”
Apparently you're not Jewish, or maybe jewish but non religious, so you have no clue what you're talking about.
This minhag has nothing to do with temple, it's no korban or ketores going on mizbeach (hope you understand the terminology..).
Every yiddishe minhag (not chasidishe) is as important as any mitzva, and we will continue with it until moshiach's day (bb"u), we won't bow under pressure from self hating people.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 03:21 PM yaakov doe Says:Report as Inappropriate
If you look carefully at the paint on the banner at the 2nd floor, it's obvious that the paint was not thrrown from ground level, but applied from the porch. There's no splatter below the banner.
My conclusion is that either the woman or a family member did the paint job.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 03:46 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
4, 7, 11, 12, 13, 20, 22 & everyone else...absolutely right. What next...cruelty to potatoes for use in latkes?
Lady, you got the wrong holiday to start painting.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 03:47 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Where does this crazy person live, anyway? Shomrim...your time is better spent than chasing paint splatters to her back door.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 04:06 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Apparently you're not Jewish, or maybe jewish but non religious, so you have no clue what you're talking about.
This minhag has nothing to do with temple, it's no korban or ketores going on mizbeach (hope you understand the terminology..).
Every yiddishe minhag (not chasidishe) is as important as any mitzva, and we will continue with it until moshiach's day (bb"u), we won't bow under pressure from self hating people. ”
I'm Jewish, and frum, and I agree with #23.
If someone did this to a kapporah center, we would be screaming bloody murder.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 04:06 PM HaNavon Says:Report as Inappropriate
Ahh, don't worry. The person who did it will do Tshuva for it when Yom Kippur comes...using a chicken for the kapoires!
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Nov 14, 2010 at 04:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Ahh, don't worry. The person who did it will do Tshuva for it when Yom Kippur comes...using a chicken for the kapoires! ”
For all of you detectives:
There an "overhang" between the second floor porch and street level. If someone had a roller on a long handle they could reach UP to the top of the sign, with the red density heaviest at the TOP while pressing against the top railing, and they would be UNABLE to reach the bottom of the hanging poster.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 06:07 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I agree - we must save the potatoes during the upcoming Chanuka season. There is absolutly no halachic reason that the potatoes must be sacrificed for latkes! That our ancestors did it is no excuse.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 06:54 PM BPeer Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ And what is "a little taste of her own medicine?" Does she run around dumping red paint on people who shlug kappores? Are people allowed to disagree with your minhagim and not be thought of as anti-Semites? Is a person allowed to believe that chickens should not be processed on an otherwise residential block, and not have to endure the stench of rotting chicken entrails for at all hours days on end simply because you want the ritual to be convenient? You seem to be rather seIf-centered about this whole matter. If t'shuvah involves ridding oneself of egoistic thoughts, it may well be that it is you who need to re-think the entire concept.
BTW, your ability to quote an old English proverb, and spell properly, is atrocious. The correct quote is: "what's SAUCE for the goose is SAUCE for the gander!" ”
Being a pro fressor sorry pro fessor (to some people both titles are meaningless), not everyone here is from america. That's one reason for not spelling correctly. Another reason (not an excuse - a reason) is typing on these small devices causes thoughts to run faster than thoughts. So, Profesor, what about being "dan l'kav zechoos"? Next time? Whatever!
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Nov 14, 2010 at 07:07 PM BPeer Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ America is not Israel. She has freedom of speech. She didn't attack anyone. She didn't damage anyone's property. What aveira are you speaking of stopping someone from doing a minhag? Don't make things up!!!
When we had a temple, then we are allowed to do kapparos. We no longer have a temple yet! This minhag isn't a Jewish mitzvah for modern times, as much as it is an chassidich ritual.
America is for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Religious actions and rituals can be limited by civil and federal laws. Therefore if American finds whipping a chicken around your head to be harmful, will you then throw red paint on government property?
Shame on your shomrim. A real man will stand up for these activities that are wrong since it is a chillul hashem. She may be wrong for judging a religion she problem doesn't know of just as our own are wrong for destroying her property. Now America will see on the news "Jews destroying property" ”
You say "Shame on your shomrim". For what? Do you know what shomrim is? It seems you know just as well as this anti kaporis (I will not stoop down to her leveval and call her an animal, but) person.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 07:18 PM czyrankevic Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Where does this crazy person live, anyway? Shomrim...your time is better spent than chasing paint splatters to her back door. ”
i just happened to pass that house about 2 days ago if i remember correctly its on 46 between 11 @ 13
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Nov 14, 2010 at 07:42 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Great, what's good for the goos, is good for the gander.... A little taste of her own medicine.
The onle way it could've been better, they should've dumped the paint on her head. ”
If you think (by your posting name) that "Kahane was right" and this type of vandalism and violence against those who disagree with you is Ok, you are doomed to suffer the same fate as your "hero".
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Nov 14, 2010 at 08:37 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Being a pro fressor sorry pro fessor (to some people both titles are meaningless), not everyone here is from america. That's one reason for not spelling correctly. Another reason (not an excuse - a reason) is typing on these small devices causes thoughts to run faster than thoughts. So, Profesor, what about being "dan l'kav zechoos"? Next time? Whatever! ”
I'm more concerned about your overall attitute than I am about your spelling...
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Nov 14, 2010 at 08:48 PM BLONDI Says:Report as Inappropriate
u can always repaint a house...very hard to get red paint out of a fur coat....
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Nov 14, 2010 at 09:21 PM Alan Says:Report as Inappropriate
Can somebody post her address? I have a few extra cans of paint ! It's not red though ! but I guess she can use the mix of colors
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Nov 14, 2010 at 09:23 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
i hope that those who say she did this for attention are right cause if thats not the case it will be a trmendous chilul hashem if the police find the perpetrator and the news media will make chopped meat out of them
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Nov 14, 2010 at 09:32 PM mendel from 54 st Says:Report as Inappropriate
Seems she was going out on a mission to paint someones house and my mistake the paint spilled in front of her house so she has some pr to do
Like any jew has now the head by kapuros and like anyone at all knows were this nab lives her sorry life
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Nov 14, 2010 at 09:58 PM פרה אדומה Says:Report as Inappropriate
now she is a פרה אדומה
And don't start up with animals.
Next time if you are crazy doing things like this, do it the right way that she should not recognized her house ! ! ! !
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Nov 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM DESIGNER Says:Report as Inappropriate
I think it's much nicer now the house - it has some color and some wetness.
Some should ask her if she wants more.
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Nov 14, 2010 at 11:07 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
#21
Apparently you're not Jewish, or maybe jewish but non religious, so you have no clue what you're talking about.
This minhag has nothing to do with temple, it's no korba.
Neither are you or you did not study halacha there are many robbonum (including I think the shuchen orach) that where against this pagen ritual. In addition, the stock up of chickens in small cages atop of another and not giving them water for hours on end is not part of the ritual it is simply animal cruelty.
If the greedy people who run the kaporos would spend a little money corrected some of the problem I mention they would not have leg to stand on. But you and others only think others hate you or are so self centered and never see that sometimes the criticism is legitimate.
Why can't there be a normal person who runs kaporos and nor make the chicken suffer. It seems simple, but greed is more important
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Nov 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
She should have color video cameras installed all around her home and I hope the behaymas that did this are caught and paraded on tv during their perp walk.
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Nov 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I think it's much nicer now the house - it has some color and some wetness.
Some should ask her if she wants more. ”
Let's see how it looks on your house first, and see how amusing you think it is then.
As it happens, I won't do live kaporos anymore because of the disgusting attitude of the yeahiva-leit who do these, the disregard for the comfort of the chickens, and the lack of respect for the animal or the act.
I happen to agree that kaporos in their present state should be stopped as a chillul Hashem.
I am frum for Flatbush, so, please, no "self-hating Jew" nonsense, okay?
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Nov 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I think it's much nicer now the house - it has some color and some wetness.
Some should ask her if she wants more. ”
Please give me your address, you think this is such a good idea, I'd like to decorate your house for you as well, no charge.
You re a smug Am Oretz!
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Nov 15, 2010 at 01:06 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ She should have color video cameras installed all around her home and I hope the behaymas that did this are caught and paraded on tv during their perp walk. ”
The cameras would pick up the staged vandalism and she would be carted off to the can.
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Nov 17, 2010 at 04:31 PM RDeych Says:Report as Inappropriate
First of all, I am shocked at the viciousness of some of the comments posted here.
It is not accurate to say that I "tried to stop the Kaporos ritual." My group respectfully encourages the use of money, instead of chickens, in the ritual.
Second, my family has a long history in Boro Park. My grandfather, a true Tzadik, was one of the first kosher butchers in the neighborhood in the 1920s. In spite of the fact that he worked with meat (he was convinced the animals were killed "humanely," according to the Torah ... until he found out otherwise about a year before he died). He rescued many cats, dogs, birds, because they are all Hashem's creatures. He also took in homeless people until they could get a job, get on their feet, and find SRO's of their own. He was adamantly against the use of chickens in Kaporos.
Third, for the person who implied that I am anti-human, I have been a registered nurse for 31 years and devoted my entire life to helping people.
Forth, as an animal activist of 30 years, I have never thrown paint on anyone or anything.
Lastly, I find some of the comments posted here not only offensive and cruel, but in violation of the site rules. Shameful.
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Nov 17, 2010 at 05:07 PM aldarase Says:Report as Inappropriate
WOW I am a Jew born and raised and still living in Flatbush, brooklyn, I am so disgusted by these comments! DISGUSTED! It is time for the community to stop wielding claims of anti-semitism as a sword and shield for every criticism, and to look within. For those of you who have expressed pleasure and satisfaction above, you should be ashamed!
If this is, as many seem to think, a self-inflicted act intended to gain attention - surely the cops will find the evidence to support this theory. I imagine if this were the case there would be evidence of paint either in or elsewhere around the house.
And quite obviously using a roller from the sidewalk, you would have difficulty reaching the bottom of the sign because of the roof's eave. Only the TOP of the sign would be accessible.
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Nov 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM VoiceOfReason613 Says:Report as Inappropriate
ust a few points about this horrible act of vandalism::
I have known Rina for many years, and I can attest that she is a very compassionate person, to both people and animals. She has been devoted to helping sick people as a nurse for over 30 years.
She and her group are not opposed to kapparos, but advocate that it be done using money instead of chickens, and they have always acted peacefully, and within the.
Their approach is consistent with Jewish teachings on compassion to animals. As the psalmist indicates, Hashems compassion is over all of His works, certainly including animals. And the book of proverbs indicates that the righteous person considers the life of his animals. And we are to be rachmanim bnei rachmanim.
WE should consider the message that others are seeing when these acts of hateful vandalism occur. As you know, perhaps the greatest sin is an act of chillul Hashem, which this vandalism is, and if the community does not condemn it, it makes it worse. Better to seek common ground and solutions, rather than resort to criminal acts.
I hope Jewish leaders will consider how to bring people together, in respectful dialogue, an act of Kiddush Hashem.
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Nov 18, 2010 at 01:29 AM DovDov Says:Report as Inappropriate
Whatever "side" you may be on, please consider the Jewish perspectives of compassion, peace and justice, not causing unnecessary pain, not wasting resources.
To that end, please visit The Vegetarian Mitzvah at www.brook.com/jveg
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Nov 19, 2010 at 08:04 AM savetheanimals Says:Report as Inappropriate
I have known Rina Deych for several years and I am certain that Rina is opposed to killing any animal for any religious ritual. Rather then criticizing Rina for her attempts to protect the lives of chickens, Rina should be APPLAUDED. Every religion should promote kindness and life for all animals not cruelty and death!!
I hope everyone who reads this message will seriously consider the meaning of the following quotation which in my opinion reveals how Rina feels, and her skeptics should feel, about the precious life of every animal.
"Look deep into the eyes of any animal, and then for a moment, trade places, their life becomes as precious as yours and you become as vulnerable as them. Now smile if you believe all animals deserve our respect and our protection, for in a way, they are us, and we are them." -Philip Ochoa Board Member, ALL FOR ANIMALS