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Israel - Daylight Saving Time Bill 'Torpedoed'

Published on: January 10, 2011 06:24 PM
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Israel - The Ministerial Committee on Legislative Affairs was all set Monday to discuss a bill presented by Knesset Member Ronit Tirosh (Kadima), which would make sure that daylight saving time wouldn’t give way to standard (winter) time before October 10 of each year.

And yet, the bill will mostly likely never make it to the table after the Prime Minister’s Office made it clear to Tirosh that if the proposal were brought before the committee for approval this week it would be rejected. Instead she was promised a well known solution – a special committee to examine the issue.

Tirosh meant to present the bill following the row that erupted around the issue last year when thousands of Israelis signed a petition to shorten the length of time standard time was used in Israel as Israel brings in the use of standard time much earlier than the rest of the world, seemingly without justification.

Supporters of an extended daylight saving time noted that it would save money, increase the quality of life and reduce the number of road accidents.

In response, the Prime Minister’s Office explained the notice they gave Tirosh by saying that a committee was being formed to examine the issue – which is why there is no reason to bring forward a bill on the subject. “We are working at ground level to solve the problems and MK Tirosh was offered the opportunity to join and take part,” they said. The Prime Minister’s Office stated that Tirosh accepted the offer.

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But Tirosh sees things differently: “The Prime Minister’s Office called and told me that the bill proposal was being postponed because they were establishing a committee under the leadership of Cabinet Secretary Zvi Hauser.

“They had already sidelined the bill when they said that they wish to focus on finalizing the budget, but I said that from my point of view, if a committee is established, it should be established tomorrow morning, and convene tomorrow for the first time, and I’ll be there. They are retreating because of coalition concerns and it is unacceptable that Shas will dictate our daily agenda. The Prime Minister’s Office is scared of Shas and the haredim.”

Tirosh stated that if the committee promised by the Prime Minister’s Office wasn’t established, she wouldn’t remain silent. The MK’s bill was, she said, was coordinated with Tzohar organization rabbis and sources within the Shas party.

Tirosh added that the three sides discussed a set date to move the clock which would suit the prayer time needs of the religious public so that they could pray and manage to get to work in time in the morning. She claims that after a suitable date was agreed upon, Shas torpedoed the agreement.

“After three months of meetings and deliberations, they told me it was impossible because Rabbi Ovadia Yosef said no,” Tirosh claimed.

“They believe that they can convince me that next year daylight saving time will be set at a date that is comfortable for everybody involved, and no one will complain, but they should forget about it because who knows what will happen next year. This year we lost, next year we won’t lose and I want to solve this once and for all,” Tirosh added.

Minister Silvan Shalom, who for the past few months has making efforts to promote the initiative, expressed his support for the bill.

The Ministerial Committee is also set to discuss a bill proposed by MKs David Rotem and Robert Ilatov (Yisrael Beiteinu) over the status of couples in civil unions. The tow explained that many citizens weren’t willing or able to marry in a religious ceremony and that the bill would offer a parallel track with the same rights and obligations through which men and women who are citizens of the state can establish a union between them that doesn’t create a marriage according to religious law.


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 Jan 10, 2011 at 06:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Can anyone make sense of this lenghty discussion.

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 Jan 10, 2011 at 06:43 PM charliehall Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Can anyone make sense of this lenghty discussion.

For some reason the religious parties think that Yom Kippur is an easier fast if it starts at 5pm rather than 6pm, and ends at 6pm rather than 7pm. I have no idea why that would be the case -- the length of the fast is the same 25 hours! And they act like bullies in getting their way on this one.

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 Jan 10, 2011 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Normally, I can make some sense out of YNet articles but this makes no sense. Why would the chareidi care about daylight savings time. The fast is for the same amount of time whatever hour it starts. Are the chareidi MKs that dumb that they somehow think daylight savings time will keep them in shul one minute longer than standard time? Maybe we don't want to know the answer to that question.

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 Jan 11, 2011 at 05:44 AM Anonymous Says:

It is not like number 2 says. People go to shul on Yom Kippur around 6:30 am
and stay until the end of the fast; no matter if it ends at 6 or 7pm. The getting up
an hour early does make a difference; either time they will get up at 6:00AM; so it is an hour more. This is very much so in the summer for Tish B'Av. Try some countries like Belgium where because of summer time motzei Tish B'Av is 11:20 or 11:30. Now the law makers in Great Britain want to make double summer time so Great Britian will be on Europe time which means motzei Tish B'Av 11:30 to 11:40. and first day of winter sunrise 9:07AM and in Scotland 9:50AM

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 Jan 11, 2011 at 08:51 AM Normal Says:

We had this conversation before around yom kippur and the comments really amaze me.

If you keep daylight saving and get up at the regular 'yom kippur shachris time' then the daytime fast hours are longer, and you are dovening an hour longer than on a normal yom kippur.

To avoid this problem, either you can

1. not keep daylight saving on yom kippur or

2. make shachris one hour later

Either one must be well advertised and even a child will be able to understand.

Really very simple and you don't need committees and meetings etc and to spend large amounts of time and money discussing it.

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 Jan 11, 2011 at 09:04 AM TannaKamma Says:

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Anonymous Says:

It is not like number 2 says. People go to shul on Yom Kippur around 6:30 am
and stay until the end of the fast; no matter if it ends at 6 or 7pm. The getting up
an hour early does make a difference; either time they will get up at 6:00AM; so it is an hour more. This is very much so in the summer for Tish B'Av. Try some countries like Belgium where because of summer time motzei Tish B'Av is 11:20 or 11:30. Now the law makers in Great Britain want to make double summer time so Great Britian will be on Europe time which means motzei Tish B'Av 11:30 to 11:40. and first day of winter sunrise 9:07AM and in Scotland 9:50AM

That is incorrect, if they wouldn't make the time-change there would be no need to get up an hour early (6 AM) as the zemanim would be later allowing more time to complete shachris before sof zeman tefilah.

It is a narrow-minded selfish law that unnecessarily aggravates the secular population as well as causing inconvenience to the religious - the earlier zemanim as a result cause many to say shema after the proper time, especially during Succos bain hazemanim.

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 Jan 11, 2011 at 09:53 AM charliehall Says:

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Anonymous Says:

It is not like number 2 says. People go to shul on Yom Kippur around 6:30 am
and stay until the end of the fast; no matter if it ends at 6 or 7pm. The getting up
an hour early does make a difference; either time they will get up at 6:00AM; so it is an hour more. This is very much so in the summer for Tish B'Av. Try some countries like Belgium where because of summer time motzei Tish B'Av is 11:20 or 11:30. Now the law makers in Great Britain want to make double summer time so Great Britian will be on Europe time which means motzei Tish B'Av 11:30 to 11:40. and first day of winter sunrise 9:07AM and in Scotland 9:50AM

This is another example of assimilation. Davening YK at 6:30am whether it is Daylight Savings Time or Standard Time is following the gentile time. We should be following Jewish time, which would automatically have us daven an hour later during Daylight Savings Time. If the religious zealots would stop following goyish practices this would not be an issue.

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 Jan 11, 2011 at 11:20 AM Anonymous Says:

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charliehall Says:

This is another example of assimilation. Davening YK at 6:30am whether it is Daylight Savings Time or Standard Time is following the gentile time. We should be following Jewish time, which would automatically have us daven an hour later during Daylight Savings Time. If the religious zealots would stop following goyish practices this would not be an issue.

Daylight "savings time" is a goyish practice. There is much to be argue against daylight savings time. It only started during WWI. There are studies being done that say daylight savings time is not the healthiest thing for you. What they are saying is people need the morning light to get going and if you get up when dark it through off your body's clock. I live where I don't have a say when daylight savings time comes in; I was just trying to show there are other people who have different needs. As far as Succos Bein Hazemanin they should get up and daven like a mentch. I am an early riser and I have been learning in Beis Medrishes that before the last minyam for scharis is over they are davening Mincha Gedolah

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