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New York, NY - PETA: Dogs Killing Rats In City Parks Is "Entirely Illegal"

Published on: January 22, 2011 08:02 PM
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New York, NY - Department’s Phil Abramson told us on Wednesday he was “not familiar with any regulations about killing rats” in city parks, NYC the Blog has heard from PETA, and they seem more in the know. To recap: a video emerged recently of a dog hunting rats for sport in Washington Square Park, killing nearly 15 in one night. But is that legal, even if the city does have a rat problem?

The animal rights organization’s Martin Mersereau said, “Setting dogs upon rats is depraved, sadistic, and entirely illegal. It constitutes an explicit violation of New York’s anti-cruelty laws.” He noted that there are two sections in New York’s Agriculture and Markets Law that apply; one prohibits anyone from unjustifiably injuring, maiming, or killing an animal, and another prohibits fights between any animals.

Allegedly every species is protected by these laws, even a rat. Mersereau suggests calling the ASPCA if you witness a rat attack, and notes that rat-killing dogs aren’t going to solve the city’s ratdemic. We’ve contacted the Parks Department again to get their comment on this law… that they should probably be aware of?



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 Jan 22, 2011 at 08:15 PM Anonymous Says:

I suggest that the members of Peta adopt these rats and take them home. Great fun for the kids.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:

A rat is not considered an animal. It is akin to an insect. Secondly, it is not "unjustifiable" to kill a rat, so there goes PETA's whole theory.

KILL RATS.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 08:28 PM Leroy1 Says:

Why is it more humane to kill them with rat poison?

Maybe they should let the homeless eat them with pigeons.
Its a win-win situation. (Ratlesburger!)

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 08:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Can I get these dogs to take care of my squirrel problem? Or does PETA have any volunteers that would come and take away the ones I catch?

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 08:50 PM charliehall Says:

We have an overabundance of feral cats in our neighborhood. We have absolutely no rats.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 09:03 PM Anonymous Says:

all these rats, mice, wild animals s/b captured and let loose inside PETA's offices and member's apartments.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 09:09 PM VeyIzMir Says:

I have another question. How illegal is it to have PETA hunting dogs that can take care of our PETA problem. I think they are far worse a problem than our usual neighborhood rat.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 09:49 PM OyGevald Says:

This is great news!
The more PETA says crazy things, the more the public will realize they are sick puppies themselves.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:

The Black Plague was caused by Rats ..... I think that PETA interrupts the natural order of this world that G-d intended. Like - we hate Lizards but lizards eat mosquitos and we hate mosquitos too. ... Did they ever see this picture of the big fish eating the smaller fish eating the tiny fish? If people were hunting rats, they may have a point (albeit a stupid point) but each animal animal, naturally eliminates another animal .... let them be.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 10:34 PM Anonymous Says:

PETA!!! u realy think that animal life is more important than human?? these rats get everyone annoyed and PETA makes everyone more annoyed.

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 Jan 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

I suggest that the members of Peta adopt these rats and take them home. Great fun for the kids.

The overwhelming majority of PETA adherents don't have any children, or they wouldn't be so depraved. Leading a normal family life and being active in peta and other such nonsense are mutually exclusive.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:13 AM Poison Says:

Rat Poison which is the approved method causes severe internal bleeding where the "animal" rat bleeds to death.

I suppose PETA considers bleeding to death to be humane.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 01:39 AM cowfy Says:

if this dog is trained to kill rats then martin mesereau better not go near washington sq. park at night.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 06:06 AM independent_mind Says:

Reply to #12  
Poison Says:

Rat Poison which is the approved method causes severe internal bleeding where the "animal" rat bleeds to death.

I suppose PETA considers bleeding to death to be humane.

I'm sure the very "humane" PETA is against rat poisoning tOo. If it were up to them NYC would look like ratcity

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 07:48 AM zayin Says:

Did these PETA ppl see the youtube video of the rat climbing up the guys leg on the subway???
I wonder if the rat crawled onto 1 of these pathetic PETA ppls bodies, would they still be yelling....

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 09:25 AM Anonymous Says:

When we had a small pack of feral dogs in my neighborhood the squirrel problem abated. I can't say that I was unhappy.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 09:31 AM chavi Says:

Have you ever seen PETA at a cattle ranch where they actually BRAND cattle with hot branding irons? Can you imagine the pain caused to the animals? I've never heard of PETA visiting a single cattle ranch. But they are all over shechita and RATS! What kind of fluff do they have between their ears?

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 09:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
independent_mind Says:

I'm sure the very "humane" PETA is against rat poisoning tOo. If it were up to them NYC would look like ratcity

NYC does look like ratcity.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 10:15 AM Anonymous Says:

Any concept taken to the extreme becomes torture. There is an issur of tzaar baalei chayim. If taken beyond limits, it would place the value of animal life above that of humans. I wonder how many laws exist in which cruelty to animals carries stiffer penalties than if the same were done to another human. This is a value that has gone riot. PETA does not represent anything related to cruelty to animals, with which it began. It is now the equivalent of a political party with an agenda that trivializes what really matters. It is a stupid as "political correctness", that has only managed to brand legitimate and honest people as violators of a contrived "value". Is there any morality left?

G-d created animals to serve mankind. When will these wackos recognize that? I'm sorry, that was not exactly politically correct.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 10:31 AM ALLAN Says:

Reply to #3  
Leroy1 Says:

Why is it more humane to kill them with rat poison?

Maybe they should let the homeless eat them with pigeons.
Its a win-win situation. (Ratlesburger!)

May I suggest "Ratatouille" with a NYC style of cooking instead of the French version.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:15 PM am oratzim! Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Can I get these dogs to take care of my squirrel problem? Or does PETA have any volunteers that would come and take away the ones I catch?

By law, you ar required to get rid of any animals you traps even if they are nuisances. I found this out the hard way with NYC and the racoons I caught on my property. It is against the law, against halacha, and PETA is the least of your worries if you do it.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Anonymous Says:

all these rats, mice, wild animals s/b captured and let loose inside PETA's offices and member's apartments.

good idea! go ahead and do it! let us know how that works out for you.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
VeyIzMir Says:

I have another question. How illegal is it to have PETA hunting dogs that can take care of our PETA problem. I think they are far worse a problem than our usual neighborhood rat.

where did you dream this up? you are delusional, or someone is joking with you and you are naive enough to fall for it.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM WiseDude Says:

I really do not understand the Chareidi obsession with PETA.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM pigwheeel Says:

Reply to #11  
bigwheeel Says:

The overwhelming majority of PETA adherents don't have any children, or they wouldn't be so depraved. Leading a normal family life and being active in peta and other such nonsense are mutually exclusive.

you are an am oretz who embarrasses the frum community by making such sweeping and untrue stories and "factoids" up.

And I assure you that more people think YOUR lifestyle is depraved and abnormal than they do about PETA, and stupidities like this give those anti-semites good ammunition to mock us with. Thank you for doing their work for them.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
independent_mind Says:

I'm sure the very "humane" PETA is against rat poisoning tOo. If it were up to them NYC would look like ratcity

it already does.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

Any concept taken to the extreme becomes torture. There is an issur of tzaar baalei chayim. If taken beyond limits, it would place the value of animal life above that of humans. I wonder how many laws exist in which cruelty to animals carries stiffer penalties than if the same were done to another human. This is a value that has gone riot. PETA does not represent anything related to cruelty to animals, with which it began. It is now the equivalent of a political party with an agenda that trivializes what really matters. It is a stupid as "political correctness", that has only managed to brand legitimate and honest people as violators of a contrived "value". Is there any morality left?

G-d created animals to serve mankind. When will these wackos recognize that? I'm sorry, that was not exactly politically correct.

G-d created animals to serve mankind. When will these wackos recognize that?

Then make a rat your butler and let him serve you, but you don't make policy for the animal kingdom yet.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 02:12 PM marcia Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

Any concept taken to the extreme becomes torture. There is an issur of tzaar baalei chayim. If taken beyond limits, it would place the value of animal life above that of humans. I wonder how many laws exist in which cruelty to animals carries stiffer penalties than if the same were done to another human. This is a value that has gone riot. PETA does not represent anything related to cruelty to animals, with which it began. It is now the equivalent of a political party with an agenda that trivializes what really matters. It is a stupid as "political correctness", that has only managed to brand legitimate and honest people as violators of a contrived "value". Is there any morality left?

G-d created animals to serve mankind. When will these wackos recognize that? I'm sorry, that was not exactly politically correct.

Who made you a ruler of what Hashem created animals to do! Animals were not placed on the earth to SERVE humans anymore than woman was placed here to serve man! Unfortunately, humans believe they have a right to decide the hierarchy of God's world and will train dogs to hunt, fight, attack people or just use them for food. I am not a backer of PETA but I also do not believe anything/one was placed on this earth to serve anything/one else!

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 03:36 PM kalman1 Says:

Reply to #18  
chavi Says:

Have you ever seen PETA at a cattle ranch where they actually BRAND cattle with hot branding irons? Can you imagine the pain caused to the animals? I've never heard of PETA visiting a single cattle ranch. But they are all over shechita and RATS! What kind of fluff do they have between their ears?

Peta actually is against cattle branding, and have visited many cattle ranches. There are enough real problems with PETA without having to make something up.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 03:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
marcia Says:

Who made you a ruler of what Hashem created animals to do! Animals were not placed on the earth to SERVE humans anymore than woman was placed here to serve man! Unfortunately, humans believe they have a right to decide the hierarchy of God's world and will train dogs to hunt, fight, attack people or just use them for food. I am not a backer of PETA but I also do not believe anything/one was placed on this earth to serve anything/one else!

Can you give me a Torah source that says animals were not created to serve man.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 03:49 PM esther Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

G-d created animals to serve mankind. When will these wackos recognize that?

Then make a rat your butler and let him serve you, but you don't make policy for the animal kingdom yet.

you and marsha neeed to learn a little chumash braishis.Hashem plainly tells adam to subdue the earth and it's creatures.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 04:56 PM Anonymous Says:

When Adam and Chava recognized their nakedness - they were allowed to dress in the skins of animals. After Noach got off the Teiva with the animals, we were given the right to eat of the animals. If you are an observant Jew - by definition, you are made to realize the hierarchy which puts humans above animals and allows for humans to make use of animals for their needs. One does not have to assume that an animal is always "suffering" when it comes to how they are utilized by humans. However we do utilize animals, it should be by means that do not include suffering.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 05:26 PM Shlomo Says:

Like so many things, activities that can be good and beneficial can be taken to an extreme. We should not torture or mistreat animals, even rats. However, that doesn't mean that you can't, or shouldn't, try to control the rat population. PETA is correct that we should be "ethical," they just take it to an absurd extreme.
Having viewed the video, I found it quite disturbing. I wasn't disturbed by the dog capturing the rats. I was disturbed by the beer drinking guys who thought it was great sport and a lot of fun. I hate rats and would have no problem training and dog to hunt them down. But killing an animal, even a rat, should not be entertainment.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 07:21 PM Rachel W. Says:

Reply to #30  
marcia Says:

Who made you a ruler of what Hashem created animals to do! Animals were not placed on the earth to SERVE humans anymore than woman was placed here to serve man! Unfortunately, humans believe they have a right to decide the hierarchy of God's world and will train dogs to hunt, fight, attack people or just use them for food. I am not a backer of PETA but I also do not believe anything/one was placed on this earth to serve anything/one else!

I would say, Marcia, that you are quite naive. If it wasn't for the mice and rats in labs being experimented on, the human race would not be enjoying the many benefits of modern medicine. Not to mention the cat that has always contributed to a more sanitary home or grocery store environment by ridding it of mice, etc.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 08:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
marcia Says:

Who made you a ruler of what Hashem created animals to do! Animals were not placed on the earth to SERVE humans anymore than woman was placed here to serve man! Unfortunately, humans believe they have a right to decide the hierarchy of God's world and will train dogs to hunt, fight, attack people or just use them for food. I am not a backer of PETA but I also do not believe anything/one was placed on this earth to serve anything/one else!

good for you! good post!

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 08:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
esther Says:

you and marsha neeed to learn a little chumash braishis.Hashem plainly tells adam to subdue the earth and it's creatures.

YOU need to learn a little. Subdue does not mean torture.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 08:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #36  
Rachel W. Says:

I would say, Marcia, that you are quite naive. If it wasn't for the mice and rats in labs being experimented on, the human race would not be enjoying the many benefits of modern medicine. Not to mention the cat that has always contributed to a more sanitary home or grocery store environment by ridding it of mice, etc.

yes, the nazis made exactly the same arguments in WW II!

Marcia, don't let these pinheads get you down, your post was thoughtful and compassionate, two things these commenters don't understand.

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 08:55 PM kollelfaker Says:

several years ago P
ETA was accused you killing stray dogs that were not adopted in their shelters in the deep south so much for their animal first attitude

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 Jan 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #40  
kollelfaker Says:

several years ago P
ETA was accused you killing stray dogs that were not adopted in their shelters in the deep south so much for their animal first attitude

so, lots of people have been accused of many things over the past "several years". What's your point? That someone accused them of doing something wrong?

No wonder your name is faker.

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 Jan 24, 2011 at 02:04 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
Shlomo Says:

Like so many things, activities that can be good and beneficial can be taken to an extreme. We should not torture or mistreat animals, even rats. However, that doesn't mean that you can't, or shouldn't, try to control the rat population. PETA is correct that we should be "ethical," they just take it to an absurd extreme.
Having viewed the video, I found it quite disturbing. I wasn't disturbed by the dog capturing the rats. I was disturbed by the beer drinking guys who thought it was great sport and a lot of fun. I hate rats and would have no problem training and dog to hunt them down. But killing an animal, even a rat, should not be entertainment.

killing a terrorist is not an entertainment as well but if the one kills a terrorist and enjoys it i have no qualms with that person.

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 Jan 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM Anonymous Says:

Clearly PETA cares more about the lives of RATS then they do for humans.

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