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Monsey, NY +Serious Fire+ A Serious working fire on all three floors of 102 N. Saddle River Drive. Fire Department on the scene. M/A Spring Valley, Hillcrest and Tallman with tankers.
U/D: 20:31
Fire Department requesting a 2nd alarm, dwelling fully involved.
O&R Utilities are requested on a rush for live wires down.
U/D: 20:37
Numerous explosions are coming from the house.
U/D: 20:46
Fire Department will be going to exterior operation only, due to all three floors are fully involved. Multiple mutual aid to the scene, fire remains very D/W/H. Water Department requested to raise the water pressure in the area.
Monsey Hatzolah BLS and ALS are on the scene.
Roads in the area are locked down.
U/D: 20:53
Roof has collapsed.
U/D: 21:36
3rd Alarm command requesting Nanuet to respond to the scene also Rockland Sheriff Arson Investigator requested, possible a arson fire.
U/D: 21:52
Addidional police from Ramapo Police Dep. and Spring Valley Police Dept. are responding to break up large fights between two groups at the scene.
Fire is still heavy.
U/D 23:43
Fire Departments still working the scene from the exterior, both floors collapsed and roof is heavy involved.
Arson, K-9 are working the scene
Teaneck FD Special Services Units also on scence.
U/D: 04/02/07. 16:09
Investigators now believe that the fire was accidental, due to K-9 not detacting any accelerant.
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Apr 11, 2007 at 01:46 PM Anonymous Says:
there was no insurance
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Apr 05, 2007 at 01:10 PM Anonymous Says:
how do we know that nk didnt do this themself and are just blaming us for doing this. how would we know if the torahs were in the house or not.
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Apr 05, 2007 at 01:06 PM Anonymous Says:
to 11.26 on april 2 their was a little unburnt erea in the back of the house and it was unusable. the house was so damaged that they nocked it down.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 05:37 PM Anonymous Says:
2 jdl (zionists?) arrested on suspicion of arson. Still trying to get them bailed before Yom Tov.
If this is an inside job, it is brilliant. Full insurance coverage. Homeowner out of country. Sifrei Torah safe. Enemies get blamed. Gets to rebuild an old shack into a brand new HQ.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 04:52 PM Anonymous Says:
Blaze at Monsey synagogue may have been accidental
By SUZAN CLARKE
THE JOURNAL NEWS
(Original publication: April 2, 2007)
MONSEY - Investigators today said they believe the suspicious fire that destroyed a controversial anti-Zionist group's synagogue last night may have accidental.
The ongoing investigation is being hampered by a flare-up of the fire about an hour ago that is limiting access to the structure, Ramapo Police Detective Lt. Brad Weidel said at a press conference today.
Arson dogs have detected no accelerant, he noted.
"Right now we have no reason to believe that this was an arson fire," he said. "The circumstances of the fire are not 100 percent clear to us."
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Apr 02, 2007 at 04:29 PM Anonymous Says:
All that was accomplished by starting the fire was that now they have an argument that the anti NK's use violence as their way of expressing themselves(as stated in that article,posted at 10:33 AM), but it's not too late, we can still denounce whoever started the fire, and work on NK through other means.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 02:34 PM O.Gevald Says:
How can Beck be in London?
Wasn't he thrown out of England and he then came to Monsey 25 years ago????
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:25 PM Anonymous Says:
Interesting, to take part in a conference to proclaim that the holocaust did indeed happen,
- just that the state of Israel does not have the right to use the blood of the 6,000,000 Jews for there bloody politics and putting the entire “klal yisral” into danger - is condemned with the highest possible tunes,
but to do exactly what Hitler ym”s did by burning a fellow Jews home and wish he was there is perfectly excepted.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:11 PM Anonymous Says:
Headquarters, Shmeadquarters. Opposition to Zionism does not need headquarters. After this event the opposition of Jews to the Zionist Moloch will only grow!!! Ha-Emes Me-ha-eretz tizmach!
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:07 PM Anonymous Says:
I like these armchair religious Zionists. They always express their bloodthirsty ideas and want others (especially non-religious Jews) to do their dirty work for them by putting their necks on the line for the failing Zionist state, so that the haredi Zionists can stay warm and comfy in Bnai Brak or Brooklyn. They believe that the blood of some Jews is cheaper than others. Of course this is internal racism, not unlike their idea that the suffering of some Jews is more important than the suffering of Palestinians or anyone else! Go figure!
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Apr 02, 2007 at 12:26 PM Bruce Abrams Says:
I just went to the neturei karta building, the house is not totally burnt. The back is all black and crumbling, the roof whole roof is collapsed but otherwise the building is still standing. The whole area is blocked off by police. Channel 7 ABC Eyewitness news was there and packing up their equipment. Standing outside the building was the head neturei karta guy, Moshe Weiss looking all important.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:58 AM Anonymous Says:
B"H there are no more headquaters in monsey (for the time behing) Lets make sure it stays that way. Let them all get arested for arson and confiding with the enemy.
TRAITORS
I think they are leaking vital information to Mahoodlum Ahjmenbaba
and the MUllorrans
NEXT IS IRAN
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:
Kudos to whomever started thr fire next time make sure that they are all in there
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:
WHATS IS HE DOIN IN LONDON WEREN'T THEY BANNED
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:36 AM Anonymous Says:
people please avoid stooping to their level
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:34 AM nothing Says:
133's view is completely corrupt.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:33 AM Anonymous Says:
Confirmed sighting of BECK in IRAN
MONSEY - A suspicious fire last night burned down a synagogue-house used by an anti-Israel, ultra-Orthodox Jewish group whose members attended the Iran-sponsored Holocaust denial conference last year.
Ramapo police and county arson investigators viewed the blaze as suspicious because Neturei Karta has been the target of threats.
Last night's raging fire on the eve of Passover destroyed Bais Yehuda, a synagogue and residence at 102 Saddle River Road. The building is a block from Route 306.
Dozens of Hasidic Jews and other people lined Saddle River Road as 75 firefighters from Monsey, Tallman, Spring Valley, Hillcrest and other volunteer departments powered water against the building.
Flames had already engulfed the three-story structure when Monsey firefighters arrived at 8:14 p.m., within two minutes of the fire being reported.
"Fire was blowing out from the side of the building when I arrived," Fire Chief Douglas Perry said last night.
Perry said people lining the streets and downed electrical lines temporarily impeded firefighters from getting into the building.
The fire's origin was being investigated by Ramapo police detectives and the Sheriff's Department Bureau of Criminal Investigation's arson detectives.
"Right now, were terming this fire as suspicious," Capt. James Quinn of the Ramapo police said at the fire scene.
Arson investigators at the fire scene declined to comment.
The fire almost spread to what fire officials called a dormitory behind the synagogue, Rockland Fire and Emergency Services Director Gordon Wren said.
There were 29 beds in the three-story building, which also contained offices, Wren said.
"The firefighters saved the illegal dorms," he said.
Water from fire hoses rolled down Saddle River Road as firefighters battled the blaze in a steady rain. Flames could still be seen in the attic after 10 p.m.
Police yellow tape cordoned off dozens of residents watching the fire. Many supported Neturei Karta's anti-Zionist views, while others opposed the group.
Neturei Karta's Hasidic Jews oppose the Jewish state on religious grounds and believe Jews should live under Arab Muslim rule until the Messiah comes.
Over the years, Neturei Karta members have burned the Israeli flag and met with people and groups that have vowed to destroy Israel. Opponents called Neturei Karta a fringe group. In December, Neturei Karta members captured worldwide attention when they embraced Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and spoke at a seminar for Holocaust deniers in Iran.
"They were outspoken," Alfred Schwartz, 47, said last night. "They were shaking hands and kissing the terrorists. They don't belong here."
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, who embraced Ahmadinejad, said last night that the fire was purposely set. The rabbi blamed pro-Israel Zionists.
"This is a perfect example of the intimidation used by Zionists to silence Torah Jews or anyone who disagrees with them," Weiss said. "We're peaceful people. We don't raise our hands against anyone. Instead of talking to us using logic, they used violence."
Weiss said Rabbi Moshe Beck and his wife lived in the house but were in London for Passover.
In January, about 350 people led by the Jewish Defense Organization protested outside the building. They carried signs that read, "Neturei Karta, U R traitors," and "Neturei crackpots, leave Monsey" and "Go to Iran."
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Apr 02, 2007 at 11:08 AM A.K.A. PELLA Says:
My mother always said "Ignoration is the best medication".
Some people stick to their beliefs and are not swayed by criticism and to some criticism is their only motivation.
These luntics only agenda is to get the public outraged, and I must admit they have succeeded in their ploy. The more we will protest them the more we will hear from them.
They will now be getting sympathy from those who always look to cheer the losers.
The first amendment protects them and our only option is to ignore them.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 09:50 AM Anonymous Says:
anon 133,
only someone who had no relatives in the Holocaust could talk like YOU!
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Apr 02, 2007 at 09:47 AM Anonymous Says:
Hashgocha Protis.
What an perfect example.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 02:36 AM Anonymous Says:
I can't believe the "sinah" that is on here. I strongly disagree with the neturei karta. But would I condone burning a fellow yid's house down? chas v'sholom.
Brothers! Don't get carried away! Us yidden have had enough tragedies, especially recently. The hate should end at some point. They are misguided, true. But comments like "they should've burned all of them also" or something to that effect? It's VERY disturbing to read something like this on a frum, chassidishe blog. We are supposed to be better than the rest of them.
Reading all the comments here I could've easily thought this is a sh'choirim blog!
PLEASE!!!
We beg Hashem for Moshiach every day! We've had enough suffering!!! Let us at least do our part to bring Moshiach sooner!!!
May we all be zoche to greet Moshiach happily!!!!!!!
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Apr 02, 2007 at 02:33 AM Anonymous Says:
Whatever everyone thinks of the Becks and their anti Zionist agenda, no one has the right to destroy someones home or to render judgement upon another Yid. We may not agree with the way Beck shows his anti Zionism, but, most Chareidim are anti Zionist also, although not so radical. Who knows what Hashem thinks of him,. What he does is L'shem Shomayim in his own way, even if most of us disagree with the way he does it. Maybe he IS right and we are all wrong, who knows?
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Apr 02, 2007 at 02:25 AM Anonymous Says:
KEN, YOBDU KOL OIVECHA HASHEM!
THEY R UNDERCOVERED OIVE HASHEM V'AMOI YISROEL
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:45 AM Anonymous Says:
maybe now beck will belive in gas chambers
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:34 AM Anonymous Says:
Fire destroys building used by anti-Israel religious Jewish group in Monsey
By STEVE LIEBERMAN
THE JOURNAL NEWS
(Original publication: April 1, 2007)
MONSEY - A highly suspicious fire tonight burned down a synagogue-house used by an anti-Israel, ultra-Orthodox Jewish group whose members attended the Iran-sponsored Holocaust denial conference last year.
Ramapo police and county arson investigators viewed the blaze as suspicious because Neturei Karta has been the target of threats.
The raging fire on the eve of Passover destroyed Bais Yehuda, a synagogue and residence at 102 Saddle River River. The building is located a block north of Route 306.
Dozens of Hasidic Jewish and other people lined Saddle River Road as 75 firefighters from Monsey, Tallman, Spring Valley, Hillcrest and other volunteers powered water against the building.
Flames had engulfed the three-story structure when Monsey firefighters first arrived at 8:14 p.m. yesterday, within two minutes of the fire being reported.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:14 AM Anonymous Says:
there was six different fd companies on the scene
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Apr 02, 2007 at 01:08 AM Anonymous Says:
i herd from a freind of mine that buruch hashem the sifre torah were by the sofer to be cheked before the shulush regolim.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 12:49 AM Anonymous Says:
it was probebly the sunis who burned down the shiyat mask in monsey
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Apr 02, 2007 at 12:37 AM Anonymous Says:
I don't care what you are all saying, the fire could have and maybe has potentially damaged adjacent properties on the Erev Pesach. Besides, who says it's ok to take din vecheshbon into your own hands, Hashem takes care.
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Apr 02, 2007 at 12:32 AM Anonymous Says:
Was this done by an undercover British agent who may have started the fire to retaliate for the Capture of the british sailors by Burning down Irans HQ in Monsey NY?
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Apr 02, 2007 at 12:27 AM Anonymous Says:
I saw an Arson Investigator leaving the scene with a full evidence bag, I'm assuming they have something to work off
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Apr 01, 2007 at 11:32 PM Anonymous Says:
who r hte 2 groopes fieting by the seen?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 11:26 PM Anonymous Says:
any updates?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 11:17 PM fire marshall Says:
if you think about it-- this is the perfect insurance scam-- beck is conveniently away in london-- they have a matzo factory- perfect excuse for a "accidental fire" and many jews who are upset at them have threatened them, to the naked eye this seems like a perfect plan to blame otehr jews for it-- or to blame it on a pesach fire- end result- just sitback and wait for the big insurance check!brilliant! hopefully arson investigators wont be so dumb-- and lock up beck and his crackpots
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Apr 01, 2007 at 11:09 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm preparing my presentation at the fire denial confrence.
Btw, I believe they will get funding from arabic groups CAIr and the likes.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 11:04 PM Anonymous Says:
someone must have been very bored and wanted some action, next time find better entertainment!!!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:56 PM Anonymous Says:
This is just a preview how all of NK will burn in hell
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:55 PM Anonymous Says:
a capuure acapuura acapurah
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:54 PM Anonymous Says:
to 949 come join we are all dancing around the bonfire
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:52 PM Anonymous Says:
this is moshe hirsch's afikoman present
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:49 PM Anonymous Says:
why arent we dancing
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:49 PM Anonymous Says:
did thay put off already?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:48 PM Anonymous Says:
to 7:58pm.
this is not an april fools joke there is a HUGE fire
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:47 PM Anonymous Says:
why is beck not considered a terrorist by the US State Dept.
He met with DIaper Head Adjemababa.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44 PM Anonymous Says:
With burning his house he will get money from insurance they should of burned him with his followers
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:42 PM Anonymous Says:
Yasher Koach, Mossad, for the great work in chutz l'aretz.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:42 PM Anonymous Says:
chasdei Hashem ki lo somnu
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:37 PM Anonymous Says:
It was chasdei hashem that the nazis were not in the house. but let them take a lesson from this that Hashem is not pleased with thise nazis. Hakol Bidei SHomayim.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:34 PM Isnurance Laywer Says:
if anything , beck being so slimy, he probably sent one of his henchmen, to start the fire so he can collect on the insurance, it makes sense, did you see that monstrosity of a house, it was torn and tattered and falling apart, this way they dont have to repair it, they can just cash the huge check from the insurance company and build a brand new complex for neturei karta!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:32 PM 8 Ball Says:
we did'nt start the fire--though we did ignite it, but we tried to fight it---arafat-ahmajinedad, farakhan-palestine--what else can we say? we didnt start the fire,--though we did ignite it...........
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:31 PM Anonymous Says:
All the excitement of the frum Zionists won't help. Baruch Hashem R. Moshe Ber and his wife are not in Monsey for Pesach. There is a judge in heaven who will take care of the perpetrators in this world and the Next World!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:28 PM Anonymous Says:
Get your chometz hot dogs and marshmellows out.. last chance
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:24 PM Anonymous Says:
LET IT BURN.
HOEP THEY GOT THE SIFREI TORAH OUT>
THewy don't belong in the hands of jewish nazis anyway.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:23 PM JDO Says:
looks like lag ba'omer came a little early for the neturei crackpots!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:22 PM Anonymous Says:
BOY!! Heavy stuff folks, "Ya play with fire, ya "get burnt". Not to rejoice about, but they should have seen it coming.
OK, now what??
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:20 PM Anonymous Says:
How lucky the Monsey community is to have a large bonfire to burn chometz!!!!!!!!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:20 PM Anonymous Says:
burn baby burn
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:19 PM Anonymous Says:
Hope they get the sifrei torah out.
Then, let this house of nazis burn to the ground.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:18 PM Anonymous Says:
let it burn.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:17 PM Anonymous Says:
may this be the beginning of the end of the NK.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:17 PM Anonymous Says:
I hope the FD lets it burn.
BUrn, Baby, burn.
May this be the end of the Jewish nazis.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:16 PM Anonymous Says:
A groise yasher koach to ever did this,
Now heopefully we will have a place to burn our chometz in the morning. May the fire last that long.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:15 PM Anonymous Says:
wild, absolutely wild.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:15 PM Anonymous Says:
to anonymous 8:57 PM it is not down yet I live around the corner. do they have confirmation about the arson?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:12 PM Anonymous Says:
Do they have any lead as to who did it?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 10:09 PM Anonymous Says:
F.D. DECLARED IT AN ARSON CASE.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 09:57 PM Anonymous Says:
Be advised that there is an operational Matza Bakery in the Building. Fire seems down at the moment, But im sure that the FDs on scene will spend another 3-4 hours cleaning it up.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 09:33 PM Anonymous Says:
M. Bear bk. Is in london @ this time.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:
are there any injuries
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Apr 01, 2007 at 09:27 PM Anonymous Says:
how does any1 know anything yet?
tonite unfortunatly we always hear about fires.. people are careless and let kids play with fire...
we must remember how dangerous fire is and kids/teenagers shouldnt be allowed to play
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Apr 01, 2007 at 09:22 PM Anonymous Says:
Don't rejoice yet, there are Sifrei Torah inside (B"H in a safe)
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:59 PM Anonymous Says:
This house/ shull was a safe haven for all extremists.
While no one will condone tourching ones house, many will rejoice silently.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:58 PM Anonymous Says:
Is this an April Fools joke?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:57 PM Anonymous Says:
The fire is out of control.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:57 PM Anonymous Says:
House is fully involved in flames!! Fd reports that possible some1 started the fire, due to heavy fire upon arrival.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:55 PM Anonymous Says:
The house/shull of the infamus Moshe Ber Beck is on fire.
This is the same location a protest took place a while ago to protest the participation of its members at the holicaust denial convention in iran.
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:54 PM Anonymous Says:
This is netruai karter hq
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:46 PM Anonymous Says:
was someone burning der foon?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:
The house of moshe bear bak in monsey is in heavy flames!!! (iran-british??)
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:41 PM Anonymous Says:
from iran!
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:37 PM Anonymous Says:
from biur chametz, or something else?
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Apr 01, 2007 at 08:32 PM Anonymous Says:
At the home of Moshe Ber Beck!