Tehran, Iran – As reported this past Motzei Shabbos on VIN News, that US Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, of the organization Jews United Against Zionism, also known as Naturei Karta, along with Canadian Rabbi Yeshaye Rosenberg attended an International conference on Global Alliance against Terrorism for a Just Peace in Tehran on Saturday.
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On Sunday both Rabbis met Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
see below photos.
I hope when they go to gehenim they also get to be with Ahmadinejad
Kiddush Hashem!…
In all generations there were leider Meshumadim. Nebech
VIN should not give these anti-Israeli anti-semites “unter menschen” a platform to vent their hate.
Why are these creatures called “Rabbi?”
see avodah zara 26a/b. on these people it is said “moridin v’ein ma’alin”. hameivin yavin.
Let them stay in Iran !!
I wonder if they have a din of rodef
all i ask hashem may the holy yiden around the world not pay a price for what they are doing. thank you hashem
how pathetic. how very sad and pathetic.
One does not need to subscribe to Zionism to recognize these haters of Yiddishkeit and Yidden. If Tehran destroyed their visas and stopped them from leaving Iran, they might be almost as happy as we all would be. As long as they keep on being mevazeh Yidden, I hope they taste all the bizayon, and none should befall us.
They should remain in Teheran. The reason why these pics should not be published is that they put all Jews at-risk. Mostly they put the Iranian Jews who live there at greatest risk. Ahmedinijad and the mullahs hide behind the facade that Jews are free to practice their religion in Iran. We all know that they are virtual prisoners in their own land who are under constant surveillance by the government. These Neturei Karta animals are free to put their own lives at-risk but not other Jews. There is a special place in Gehinom for them and I suspect Ahmedinijad and Bin Laden will be at their sides.
I see that everyone is getting so upset when they go to IRAN, I have a different look at it, I believe that they are doing a tremendous thing, because millions of Iranians see that not every Jew on the street is your enemy… the rest of the world knows that those 2 rabbi’s do not present anyone, but to the millions of terrorist that watch and are brainwashed that jewish are with Iran, what’s so wrong? If it saves a Jewish life it’s worth it….
If Obama didnt post the killing of Bin Laden to the public how can you post this gruesome photo of the worlds biggest Anti Semite who has one goal , the destruction of the state of israel.?
Th NK are useful idiots for Iran. If Iran had no use for them they would kill them for the fun of it. There is a history of virulent antisemitism in Iran for centuries. Jews were considered so impure that Persian law said that Jews could not go out in the rain, lest the rainwater roll off them and contaminate the streets. And that was before any modern Zionism.
BTW, in one of the pics, the 2 are so close it looks as though they are more than friends. SICK !!!
They are smarter then the Holy Baal V’Yoel Moshe in the Noosoo Torah-
Nebech Nebech
again!!!
I would like to ask one thing of all these people bashing the NK!!
Should you have been around:
At the time that Yakov our forefather bowed to Esov, who was out to kill him, and consequently saved his life to save all of Klal Yisrael
Or when rabbi Yochanan played dead to smuggle out to the Romans and thus by saved Reb Gamliel and the city of Yavneh and its torah scholars, and thus by saved the torah and all of Am Yisrael,
Or when Reb Michoel Ber Weissmandel gave money and pleaded to the biggest ratsach Eichmann and thus by saved thousands of Jews,
Would your condemnation be:
1) the same
2) more
3) less
People “START THINKING”
which yeshivos do these characters come from?
we must make sure that our money does not support them.
WOAHH! These pics make me vomit!
I think it’s disgusting to pin those pictures at the top of the page. They are quite nauseating. In protest, I will not be going to vosizneias for quite some time until they are no longer at the top of the home page.
Not so different from the zionist bashers on VIN
Nice to see the msiras nefesh of this 2 rabbis, after all they making that the Muslims & the arabs should not hate us so much, we not aloud to fight with them we need to talk with them nicely, good luck rabbis
I guess they support the murder of Jews, endorsing a man who outright calls for the destruction of Israel. Just because the people in Israel are considered Zionists by the Karta’s standards, doesn’t mean they are any less Jewish. What about the Rosh Yeshivas who live in Yerushalyim and Bnei Brack? When Ahmadinajeb calls for their murder and to be wiped off the planet since they inhabit Israel, is that also OK for these clowns from the Karta to follow suit? They endorse this clown from Iran so they are just as liable.
Rosenberg is not a rabbi, and he lives in monsey, not in Canada as reported here.
I’d sooner call a lady musmacha from JTS or HUC a rabbi than these 2 self-hating Jews.
I am hopeful that one the these animals’ kids will make a shidduch with the other animal from iran, lekayem ma shene’emar, matza min es mino.
Interesting perspectives…
I see the point a few folks made about showing Ahavat Benei Adam in light of such vociferous hatred of our people. However, that would only work if these two Yidden represent the Jewish people. Attending a conference that condemns the lives and validity of our Torah and remaining silent is the opposite of a Kiddush Hashem, it is very much a Hillul Hashem.
This absolutely turns my stomach. 1 well-aimed cruise missile could have taken care of 2 of the biggest threats to klal Yisroel.
These animals are supporters of terrorism and are active supporters of those who murder Jews. Period. There is no “other way” to look at it. There is no “other perspective”. There isn’t. They are loud and proud in their support of terrorism.
They could be QUIET in their hatred of Jews and their wishes for Jews to be slaughtered. Instead, they go to embrace the murderer. That is a CHOICE they make. They do not need to do this. They are not bowing to their enemy because they are forced to, they CHOOSE to.
It is high-time that we begin speaking out against these supporters of terrorism. We should be calling them out by NAME, in public, on television and in the global print media. It must be made ABUNDANTLY clear to the Arab world that these people are our ENEMIES like any other supporters of terrorism. The Israeli government has a responsibility to arrest them for providing material support for terrorists. Every one of these animals belongs in a cage.
There is no difference between NK and the Imam arrested in FL a few days ago. NONE!
I do not know where these two traitors live or daven. If I did know I would orgainize protests around the clock outside their homes and demand that they leave this country and I would do the same to any shule that accepts them as members. They should not be allowed to get an aliyah, no one should marry their children if their children agree with their views, they should be treated with utter contempt and rejected from the community. No one should speak to them, no store should sell them food, no one should provide any sort of services to them such as plumbers, car services, doctors, etc.
I am sick to my stomach.
To #12 - They are not haters of Yiddishkeit, as they speak fluent Yiddish. In the past, their leader spoke in Yiddish to Ahmadinejad. It was then translated into English, and then translated into Farsi. I can’t understand why they literally have to kiss Ahmadinejad; they have done that latter in past meetings in New York City, when Ahmadinejad addressed the UN.
Put them in cheirem
A Picture is worth a thousand words!!!
it makes me SICK…
Make peace with your enemies as Yaakov Avinu did. Yaakov kissed Esav even though he was trying to kill him. We should learn from our Sages how a Jew makes peace with his enemies.
They are Mossad members.
It’s sad that they really believe they are doing the right thing.
that would have been true if they were doing it for the good of the jews and israel not the opposite
How many people are members of Neturi Karta anyway?
Reply to #33
I totally agree with you. I will try to find out where they live. I want to start to organize a protest march against these traitors. I want to pressure stores not to sell them food. This is a very serious matter. We can’t let these guys think there are no consequences to being tratitors.
the NK are to Jews what the “Westboro Baptists” are for Christian Americans. Oisvorfen.
very sad and disturbing that we have jews like this . please forgive me for saying this but i worked for many years in williamsburg and met many jews who had the same views about israel as these two disgraceful jews
Unfortunately, if you the backgrounds of these two jerks, they are NOT chassidish as they look. They are rather from a very shallow yiddish background. Listen to their english and you will see that they never ever went to a chassidish yeshiva. They have a midwest or southern accent., and speak a fluent english. The entire dress of theirs is a masquerade!
There is no question that these are few and do not represent klal yisroel.
I just question what their motive is? are they well meaning?
They have some strong claims that Yaakov bowed down to Eisav and sent gifts to the one who wanted to oppress him.
Do you think that had vosiznies been around at that time there would be many comments condemning his behaviors?
What are ya gonna do? Not everyone could be normal.
Dear kalman1,
(I’ll answer you not necessarily in the order that you wrote it since different parts of your comment can use the same answer, plus I’ll have to split my answer since its much to long)
However, there are many more times when the gedolim were not machnia themselves… you can go through the whole list of reshaim whom our gedolim did not acknowledge…
Well since you have a whole list why don’t you bring them?
You found three unique scenarios in our 3000 year history…
I gave you three, and you give me one, you say three is unique?
(part 2)
Your 3 cases are unique exceptions and each require a horaah shah from the gadol hador… from yaakov, a maaseh in the torah one can not bring rayos…
Well, all I can do for you here is quote the Ramban in Beshalach, at the story between Yaakov and Esov:
“Also it has a hint for the generations to come, that all that had happened to our father with his brother Esov, will always happens to us with Esov’s children, and it is proper we should cling to the path of the righteous, and ready ourselves to the three things he readied himself, to prayer to gift giving and to war, war meaning to escape and thus be rescued.”
Aha, so according to the Ramban we don’t have a problem that its “unique”, moreover the whole reason why the Torah tells us this story is precisely “because” we have to do the same!!!!
Moreover the Midrash says (Bereishis Rabbah 78-18) that when Rabi went to the government, he used to look in this parsha in order to conduct himself in the same way.
(part 3)
And not only fallow Yaakov in general, but fallow him to the tee. As we see in the above Midrash that consequently after learning this parsha, Rabi didn’t take a Roman to escort him, since Esov wanted to escort Yaakov and Yaakov rejected him, Another example from Midrash (Bereishis Rabbah parsha 75-6) we see that Rebi when writing to a non-Jew Rebi even followed the language that Yaakov used.
So we see that this parsha is what a Jew has to fallow when dealing with non-Jews. So it might be unique still this is our guide!
(Part 4)
For example mordechai refused to bow to haman…
Right, and the reason was “not” because Mordechai was too proud to bow, sorry my buddy you need to learn, the reason was because Haman made himself an Avodah Zarah.
And since you only bring one example, I’ll help you out with another one, Chananiya, Mishael and Azariah refused to bow to the Avodah Zarah of Nevuchadnezzar, and the Midrash says (Vayikra Rabbah parsha 33-6) that they told Nevuchadnezzar, for collecting tax you’re a king, but to tell us to bow to Avodah Zarah you and your dog are the same.
So this is the reason why Mordechai refused to bow.
(part 5)
One common denominator in all 3 scenarios is that there was direct hatzolas nefashos. These clowns are not helping anybody… It was a direct question of saving torah for klal yisroel and thus the future of klal yisroel. It again was a direct threat… by rav weismandel, it was question of directly saving lives… He was mechallel shabbos. do you believe nk is allowed to be mechallel shabbos to do their “holy” work…
Well according to them it is direct Hatzolahs Nefashos, it’s a matter of opinion, and about Mecalel Shabbos, one needs to consult a Dayan if in a Hatzolahs Nefashos of this matter, one can be Mecalel Shabbos.
(part 6)
By R’ Yochanan, the general was not an avowed anti semite…
This most surely was a typo; I mean he conquered Eretz Yisrael and killed thousands of Jews if this is not anti-Semitism, I don’t know what is!
In addition yaakov showed ostensibly “brotherly” respect, which cannot be compared to hugging an avowed anti semite… R’ yochanan did not show love for him, i.e hugging. He plead he did not kiss or hug… Again, Rav weissmandel begged, bribed but he never showed open expressions of love to the nazis, which was unique to yaakov, who did it to his brother…
Precisely, Yaakov did what was necessary then, and Reb Yochanan did what he had to do, and Rav Weissmandel did it with money, so since the custom in the Arab world is that you hug when you meet, this is what’s necessary, this is what they do.