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Israel - The Health Ministry has determined that there are more overweight people in the ultra-Orthodox sector than in the secular one.
Yair Amikam stressed in a letter to the chairman of the ministerial Tender Committee that “the problem is seven times worse in the haredi sector than among seculars.”
At first, Amikam stated, the Dairy Board and ministry would work to raise awareness to the issue among children and teenagers. The campaign was to be brought to the sector’s members through a haredi radio children’s show.
“The haredi lifestyle focuses on the dinner table,” explains Shifra Krimolovsky, the campaign’s initiator. “Haredim eat and celebrate a lot. When a baby boy is born in the general sector there is just a circumcision ceremony, while the haredi sector holds different social events which include a lot of food.
“At the same time, they don’t engage in any physical exercise. This is the reason we are launching a campaign which will begin with the children, with the aim of getting the mothers to learn about proper eating habits and physical activity.”
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Sep 01, 2011 at 11:31 PM shazmar Says:Report as Inappropriate
i dont think obesity is the problem, i think cholent addiction is!
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Sep 01, 2011 at 11:33 PM Pickle Says:Report as Inappropriate
In unrelated news, obease Hareidim report that they Suffer from scrawny health ministers.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 12:12 AM ExpatriateOwl Says:Report as Inappropriate
I've been saying that for years!
But don't take my word for it, go ask Rabbi Yehuda Levin!
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Sep 02, 2011 at 12:50 AM skazm Says:Report as Inappropriate
they've done studies - people in poverty are more obese than their more well-to-do counterparts because they nwws cheaper food sources that are usually processed and no good for you.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 01:08 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I totally agree. There isn't enough emphasis on the importance of physical activity both for girls and for boys. It's not part of the curriculum in frum schools like it is in public schools, and programs that provide this outlet are often looked down upon as "goyish." Not only that, but if you go into any frum supermarket, the junk food section is always the biggest section in the store. This problem isn't just in Israel but also in NY. I think there should be more awareness of the health problems that this type of diet and lack of exercise creates.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 01:12 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It's not a pretty sight.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 02:32 AM Fatso Says:Report as Inappropriate
Every time news slows down a report of us being obese comes out. Sorry it's no news.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 02:44 AM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:Report as Inappropriate
.חכמים. הם ממש גילו אמריקה
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Sep 02, 2011 at 03:27 AM PrettyBoyFloyd Says:Report as Inappropriate
I just finished Fressing Cholent at Flams.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 01:22 AM an observant Says:Report as Inappropriate
this is stereo typing. you cannot say they are obese without a study. where are the numbers? are the wowen as big as the men or visa/versa?
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Sep 02, 2011 at 02:15 AM Not a fatso, Orwell Says:Report as Inappropriate
Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well). Its not the cholent, or any of that stereotype. The stereotype is what the Israeli political propaganda wants you to think. (e.g The so called Haredim are poor well some of the richest in Israel are frum e.g Leviev, the Haredim are lazy well every single qualified so-called Hardedi who applies for a job at firms or government departments get turned down because they are frum, even if they are qualified have ecperience or over qualified frum immigrants. NOne are isolated incidents. The media is all a part of it, how it took over 45 years before a frum media outlet e.g arutz 7 became "legal". They don't wnat a frum voice because it is a war, even the current hebrew frum dailies are all intertwined and influenced by one individual.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 02:20 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
On exercise the Rambam says, "As long as a person exercises and exerts himself…sickness does not befall him and his strength increases…. But one who is idle and does not exercise…even if he eats healthy foods and maintains healthy habits, all his days will be of ailment and his strength will diminish." Rambam also stresses that one must not overeat. The problem isn't the food at brissim-it's the overeating and the number of sugary desserts instead of having fruit for dessert.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 06:40 AM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well). Its not the cholent, or any of that stereotype. The stereotype is what the Israeli political propaganda wants you to think. (e.g The so called Haredim are poor well some of the richest in Israel are frum e.g Leviev, the Haredim are lazy well every single qualified so-called Hardedi who applies for a job at firms or government departments get turned down because they are frum, even if they are qualified have ecperience or over qualified frum immigrants. NOne are isolated incidents. The media is all a part of it, how it took over 45 years before a frum media outlet e.g arutz 7 became "legal". They don't wnat a frum voice because it is a war, even the current hebrew frum dailies are all intertwined and influenced by one individual. ”
"Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well)".
Are you so fat and so overweight that your brain has atrophied? Have you lost the ability to think for yourself and to do things for yourself? Why do you think that everything has to be handed to you on a plate (pun intended)?
A person - even a charedi Jew - does not need an "outlet" to exercise. Nowhere is it written that a person is obliged לפי תורה והלכה to join a health club or a gym.
Haul your obese carcass out of your dining chair, put your hat on and go for a walk, or swim, for half an hour each day. Have just a modicum of respect for yourself and eat cholent just once a week - on shabbat. There is no need to fress on so much carbohydrate and unnecessary fat Thursday evening as well. It will kill you, pure and simple.
And, most of all: stop all this whining and self-pity. It doesn't suit you at all. Oh yes, one other thing: ask yourself how the Levievs of this world became rich.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 06:58 AM G-Bro Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ this is stereo typing. you cannot say they are obese without a study. where are the numbers? are the wowen as big as the men or visa/versa? ”
"the problem is seven times worse"...I think this indicates a study of some form was done.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 07:34 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I've been saying that for years!
But don't take my word for it, go ask Rabbi Yehuda Levin! ”
Rabbi Yehuda Levin lost a huge amount of weight. I would like to know which system he used!
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Sep 02, 2011 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ this is stereo typing. you cannot say they are obese without a study. where are the numbers? are the wowen as big as the men or visa/versa? ”
Within the chareidi population the rate of obesity is about 30 percent higher in men then women (perhaps reflecting the fact that women have little time to fres while running around and taking care of 12 children). However, as this study and all the others have confirmed, the overall obesity rate among chareidim is vastly higher than among the secular population. Some interviews revealed that Chareidim have be brainwashed into beleiving that there is some type of chiyuv to eat the fatty and high carb/high salt foods that their parents and grandparents ate in the Alte Heim. Overcoming such crazy ideas and instilling a desire to exercise frequently and eat a healthy diet will require a spiritual as well as physchological transformation, led by their rabbonim not by Gold's gym and Jenny Craig.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 08:24 AM ZAIDY678 Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well). Its not the cholent, or any of that stereotype. The stereotype is what the Israeli political propaganda wants you to think. (e.g The so called Haredim are poor well some of the richest in Israel are frum e.g Leviev, the Haredim are lazy well every single qualified so-called Hardedi who applies for a job at firms or government departments get turned down because they are frum, even if they are qualified have ecperience or over qualified frum immigrants. NOne are isolated incidents. The media is all a part of it, how it took over 45 years before a frum media outlet e.g arutz 7 became "legal". They don't wnat a frum voice because it is a war, even the current hebrew frum dailies are all intertwined and influenced by one individual. ”
i'm sorry but its probably a true study. There is very little encouragement in the frum velt to exercise and diet properly. It seems that the Yeshivas don't encourage healthy living, they would rather learn learn some sugya of Gemarah pertaining to this issue then actually doing it themselves.. As Pirkie Avos says " lo h'iker halimud ela h'mase...we need action.. goos shabbos..
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Sep 02, 2011 at 08:29 AM sealer Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ i dont think obesity is the problem, i think cholent addiction is! ”
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Sep 02, 2011 at 08:40 AM Materetsky Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well)".
Are you so fat and so overweight that your brain has atrophied? Have you lost the ability to think for yourself and to do things for yourself? Why do you think that everything has to be handed to you on a plate (pun intended)?
A person - even a charedi Jew - does not need an "outlet" to exercise. Nowhere is it written that a person is obliged לפי תורה והלכה to join a health club or a gym.
Haul your obese carcass out of your dining chair, put your hat on and go for a walk, or swim, for half an hour each day. Have just a modicum of respect for yourself and eat cholent just once a week - on shabbat. There is no need to fress on so much carbohydrate and unnecessary fat Thursday evening as well. It will kill you, pure and simple.
And, most of all: stop all this whining and self-pity. It doesn't suit you at all. Oh yes, one other thing: ask yourself how the Levievs of this world became rich. ”
That's really, really, not nice at all. Don't know what else to say but you should take a look at what you wrote here.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 09:17 AM hadtocomment Says:Report as Inappropriate
I have seen many different women out walking, usually in pairs, for exercise, but I have almost never seen any men out walking. I actually felt uncomfortable doing so, and after a while, got a treadmill to exercise on. Though a few other men may be exercising at home on treadmills or elliptical machines, and a few have memberships and regularly swim, I think it is fair to say that the vast majority of men are not getting any exercise.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 09:42 AM Phoenix Says:Report as Inappropriate
I went to two hotels this summer for shabbos. If I would not have brought along my own food, I would hardly have had anything to eat. I cannot eat fatty foods, and I assumed there would be plenty of fruits and vegetables served a the meals. Well, I was wrong. The meals in both hotels, two completely separate caterers consisted of chulent, kishka, heavy kugels, fried schnitzel, and nary a veggie in sight. Oh yeah, there were a few small salads on the table, but they were drowing in oil or mayo. I was fascinated as I looked around and realised that hundreds of people are eating this heart clogging food with no problem. What happened to worrying about our health? I am very concerned about the way we are all eating, and I hope we can begin to change our habits to better suit what Hkbh wanted our bodies to be consuming.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 10:25 AM concerned_Jew Says:Report as Inappropriate
all this talk about food is making me hungry.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 10:26 AM concerned_Jew Says:Report as Inappropriate
Just because someone is overweight doesn't mean they don't get hungry. In Europe being overweight was considered a good sign, meant you were not starving. However I imagine that a little oveweight, not 400 lbs overweight.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 10:36 AM HappyOlah Says:Report as Inappropriate
Every time I shop in Kiryat Sefer or Har Nof, or other Chareidi neighborhoods I cannot find lowfat milk or cottage cheese. I have to go out of the neighborhoods to buy 1% milk and 3% cheese. I presume that the stores stock what their customers want. I would say it is ignorance that causes Chareidi wives and mothers to buy the high-fat products.
(BTW, Chareidi men are big smokers, too. Is that from the alter heim?)
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Sep 02, 2011 at 10:43 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It will take a letter from several true gadolim that states clearly and without the usual vague wording that in accordance with daas torah, all yidden MUST eat healthy foods, get regular cardiovascular exercise several times a week and closely monitor their weight, blood pressure, glucose levels etc. The yeshivot MUST be required to make time available for both exercise and nutritional programs. Shuls MUST be required to offer healthy foods, whether at a regular kiddush, the Rebbe's weekly tisch or at simchot. They need to make clear there is zero yichus in eating foods based on a minhag from the alte heim that we now know are not healthy.
All this needs to be done soon, with no equivocation and with none of the usual hesitancy and vague references. If not, more frum yidden will continue to die unecessiarily. Its that simple.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 10:47 AM esther Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "Its the same old Israeli political games against the frum world. When last did they offer a solution to the frum community in regards to a kosher exercise availability. There are hardely any outlets for a frum person to exercise and workout in Israel (and outside of Israel as well)".
Are you so fat and so overweight that your brain has atrophied? Have you lost the ability to think for yourself and to do things for yourself? Why do you think that everything has to be handed to you on a plate (pun intended)?
A person - even a charedi Jew - does not need an "outlet" to exercise. Nowhere is it written that a person is obliged לפי תורה והלכה to join a health club or a gym.
Haul your obese carcass out of your dining chair, put your hat on and go for a walk, or swim, for half an hour each day. Have just a modicum of respect for yourself and eat cholent just once a week - on shabbat. There is no need to fress on so much carbohydrate and unnecessary fat Thursday evening as well. It will kill you, pure and simple.
And, most of all: stop all this whining and self-pity. It doesn't suit you at all. Oh yes, one other thing: ask yourself how the Levievs of this world became rich. ”
there is absolutely no reason for you to be so rude. make your point with out all the insults for goodness sakes.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 12:33 PM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ there is absolutely no reason for you to be so rude. make your point with out all the insults for goodness sakes. ”
Clearly, the truth hurts sometimes. I stand by every syllable I wrote in message #13.
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Sep 02, 2011 at 02:57 PM A Says:Report as Inappropriate
Not many charedi families with 9 children have the money to buy their families the right foods for a well-balanced diet. When you don't have money to spare you buy the cheapest foods that will spread the furthest. It is considerably cheaper to feed a large family with a bag of potatoes or a box of pasta. One box of pasta=$.99 One cantaloupe=$2.99, which of the two can ease hunger longer and for more people? If fruits & vegetables were not so ridiculously expensive poor people could afford to buy and eat more of them.
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Sep 03, 2011 at 10:02 PM qazxc Says:Report as Inappropriate
I hear the AY wanted to have a symposium about this at the next convention but there wasn't enough time between before the smorgasbord and after dinner no one could move to get to the next room and the hotel won't let the featured health expert, a chashuv rosh yeshiva from central jersey smoke while he makes his presentation.
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Sep 03, 2011 at 10:38 PM Reb Yid Says:Report as Inappropriate
It's a question of being goal oriented. A chareidi single girl has no problem starving herself to a size 0 in order to get a shidduch. So why doesn't a 50 yr old chareidi man at least make an effort to look halfway decent? It's because we live in a locker room mentality where we all just hang around the boys and who cares what we look like, everyone else is a zhlub too. Just care what you look like and the obesity rates will come way down.
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Sep 04, 2011 at 06:19 AM mikeb Says:Report as Inappropriate
Over the past few years, I have done my own little survey here in Eretz Yisroel. It is most revealing. I myself am chareidi, but (as with many others) have a large circle of friends who are not. At simchas nowadays, there is always a bowl of fresh salad on the table. Yes, even at chareidi simchas. However, if I am at a kippa seruga simcha I am lucky to get any of the salad to eat, as it is always the first thing to be finished. At chareidi simchas I can usually eat most of it myself. As to the overdosing on heavy carbs at almost all chareidi simchas ... well there you are. To be quite honest, this stuff really worries me. Especially when many really seem to think that eating this type of diet is connected somehow with frumkeit.