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Published on: October 9, 2011 01:09 AM
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New York, NY - Several hundred people showed up in front of downtown New York’s Brown Brothers Harriman building for a candlelit, social justice-oriented Kol Nidre service Friday night. They included men and women in white prayer shawls, participants in street wear and non-Jewish onlookers.

Leaders of the service prayed for the eradication of racism, classism and discrimination. As with the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations, no microphones were used and readings and songs were echoed throughout the crowd as dozens of police officers watched.

No incidents have been reported. Several attendees crossed the street to Zuccotti Park to spend the night with Occupy Wall Street demonstrators, as observant Jews do not use cars or the subway on Yom Kippur.

All photos credit Jimmy Justice for VIN News

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 01:14 AM Anonymous Says:

This shows that the protest has grown to include even the frum community. Many frum yidden are hurting economically and this protest reflects basic yiddeshe values of fairness and caring for the poor. More rabbonim and askanim should get behind the Occupy Wall street movement and organize on their behalf. Sure, there are some crazies in the group but most are very seriousl

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 01:29 AM Jothar Says:

Protesting won't create jobs or change the harsh economic realities.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 01:43 AM trachtois Says:

This movement has absolutely nothing to do with Jewish values.Yiddishkeit believes if you earn your money fairly it belongs to you. Of course there is a Mitzva to help the poor, but that has absolutey nothing to do with this misguided movement!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 02:11 AM FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

sorry #1 but socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values no matter how much you and others of your ilk would like it to be. so no, #1, no rabbis and/or askanim will associate themselves with this dangerous silliness.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 01:36 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

This shows that the protest has grown to include even the frum community. Many frum yidden are hurting economically and this protest reflects basic yiddeshe values of fairness and caring for the poor. More rabbonim and askanim should get behind the Occupy Wall street movement and organize on their behalf. Sure, there are some crazies in the group but most are very seriousl

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 02:33 AM Lodzker Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

This shows that the protest has grown to include even the frum community. Many frum yidden are hurting economically and this protest reflects basic yiddeshe values of fairness and caring for the poor. More rabbonim and askanim should get behind the Occupy Wall street movement and organize on their behalf. Sure, there are some crazies in the group but most are very seriousl

what? its not our way to get involved in the social movements of the time.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 03:25 AM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #4  
FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

sorry #1 but socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values no matter how much you and others of your ilk would like it to be. so no, #1, no rabbis and/or askanim will associate themselves with this dangerous silliness.

and unfettered capitalism is also not a Jewish value

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 03:27 AM leahle Says:

Reply to #3  
trachtois Says:

This movement has absolutely nothing to do with Jewish values.Yiddishkeit believes if you earn your money fairly it belongs to you. Of course there is a Mitzva to help the poor, but that has absolutey nothing to do with this misguided movement!

The problem is that the extremely rich and the multi-national corporations have bought the government and rigged the system so it is not fair.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 04:06 AM kingizzy Says:

I'm not sure if this is a chilul Hashem or kiddush Hashem !! But if you heard the anti semitic statements these loonies are making about all the Jews that run the financial industry and are trying to take over America, you would not associate yourselves with these nuts. I guarantee you that everyone of these protesters, give them some money and they will fly to the otherside in a heartbeat!!_

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 05:12 AM Anonymous Says:

Nebach, nebach.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 05:28 AM Shlomo Says:

Reply to #4  
FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

sorry #1 but socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values no matter how much you and others of your ilk would like it to be. so no, #1, no rabbis and/or askanim will associate themselves with this dangerous silliness.

Socialism in the US brought us things like the 5 day work week and Unions (and frum Jews weren't pressured into working on Shabbos) while liberalism has allowed Jews to live in a country that has "wall" between "church and state."
[No, I'm not a Socialist nor would I fall neatly into the Liberal category. Like most Americans, I'm conservative on some issues while liberal on others.]
My point is that sweeping condemnation misses the broad scope of socialism and liberalism in the US. Like any movement, including Tea Party conservatism, there are aspects of "dangerous silliness." The danger lies in becoming an ideologue unable to see any good in people or movements.
Socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values; there are Jewish values within socialism and liberalism.
[gentle people, start your flamethrowers]

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 07:04 AM Emes36 Says:

How were all these "frum" jews allowed to carry their machzorim on yom kipper without an erev?

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:14 AM hmmmm Says:

How true!! This outsourcing to other country's and bringing in cheap labor is killing the USA. The other issue is free trade. Fix these 2 issues and you have most of the unemployment issues gone!!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:19 AM Darth_Zeidah Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

What is "spreading the wealth" if not צדקה וגמילות חסד?

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

This shows that the protest has grown to include even the frum community. Many frum yidden are hurting economically and this protest reflects basic yiddeshe values of fairness and caring for the poor. More rabbonim and askanim should get behind the Occupy Wall street movement and organize on their behalf. Sure, there are some crazies in the group but most are very seriousl

Because yidden dont care for the poor? The millions in tzedaka? The hundreds of orginizations?..... Oh u mean u want the govt to take even MORE of the 'rich' hard earned money. More then half is fair? So the govt can use it for infrastructure or give it to a dying solar company? Hmm and then the 'rich' will give less to charity and will think twice about bring new people for business. Will think twice before spending money which will hurt other business. And then bye bye America. Keel living in ur dream land. In the meantime, get a life.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:54 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
leahle Says:

The problem is that the extremely rich and the multi-national corporations have bought the government and rigged the system so it is not fair.

So then clearly protest against the super super rich and leave the people who work there --- off and make a million bucks out of it!!! This I America!! Grow up!!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:55 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
leahle Says:

The problem is that the extremely rich and the multi-national corporations have bought the government and rigged the system so it is not fair.

And by the way the corrupt super rich u refer to are all crazy liberals.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:57 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Darth_Zeidah Says:

What is "spreading the wealth" if not צדקה וגמילות חסד?

When u do it on ur own!!! When u have money in the bank and decide to give to tzedaka!!! Not some bearocratic forcing more money out of u!! R u nuts??

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:03 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

Reply to #12  
Shlomo Says:

Socialism in the US brought us things like the 5 day work week and Unions (and frum Jews weren't pressured into working on Shabbos) while liberalism has allowed Jews to live in a country that has "wall" between "church and state."
[No, I'm not a Socialist nor would I fall neatly into the Liberal category. Like most Americans, I'm conservative on some issues while liberal on others.]
My point is that sweeping condemnation misses the broad scope of socialism and liberalism in the US. Like any movement, including Tea Party conservatism, there are aspects of "dangerous silliness." The danger lies in becoming an ideologue unable to see any good in people or movements.
Socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values; there are Jewish values within socialism and liberalism.
[gentle people, start your flamethrowers]

Excellent post!

I wonder when people complain so much about Unions, (my husband is a Union Ironworker by the way), if they bother to take into consideration the fact that nobody in this country would even HAVE a 5-day work week w\Shabbos off, if it weren't for the fighting men & women of the Unions of old, sticking up for worker's rights!

We'd all be working 60-80hrs a week, back-breaking work, little to no breaks, barely a lunch & the thought of actually being allow "sick leave" would be a joke! You'd lose your job RIGHT AWAY, if G-d forbid you get sick & need to take a couple of days off!

There'd be no time for vacation w\family, no time for them on the weekends because you'd be working them too probably, (unless they gave you their Christian holiday of Sunday off, which isn't going to help the Yidden any!- lol), and oh yeah... did I mention no company would have to pay you fairly either? They could pay you slave wages & there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it!

You non-Union people want to go live in China where there *aren't* any Unions & see how much you like THOSE working conditions over there?! Ha!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:05 AM busy Says:

One of their main stated beliefs is "wiping out all debt" on all levels - from international to individual consumer credit card. That is most certainly NOT a Jewish concept.

These are antisemitic anarchists and we should stay far far away from them.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:27 AM A bissek Kliger Says:

Reply to #13  
Emes36 Says:

How were all these "frum" jews allowed to carry their machzorim on yom kipper without an erev?

Isn't "erev" and evening? You must have meant ERUV....fyi: manhattan is an island and as such, there are those who hold that it doesn't require and eruv. Also, why do you bash?? At least they have a "pintele yid" in them. Be dan lekaf zchus.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:34 AM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

What Torah have you been reading?

The Torah is very clear on how much of your wealth you HAVE to give to others.
So yes..we do spread the wealth..and no it's not voluntary.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:37 AM Anonymous Says:

All those who rant against these demonstrators will "pay" for their hatred of those who fight in the name of tikun olam to make the world a more fair and equitable place for ALL and not just the wealthy. If a job and health care are not "rights" of basic human dignity, I'm not sure what is.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:37 AM Gules Says:

#1 FRUM JEW? They are mechalel yom kippur befarhesia you consider this jewish? Shame on vin for posting pics of such chillul hashem.

They carry theyr machzorim in the street on yom kippur is against halacha.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:37 AM Materetsky Says:

The thing is, it's difficult to say if the Occupy Wall Street people are protesting for a Jewish value or not because they have no cohesive message at all. They are talking about how there are poor people and not enough jobs, but they have no list of demands or suggested solutions. They don't have a leader or anything--they are all just marching around yelling things like "Wall Street got bailed out! We got sold out!" .
They are decidedly not republican, but they are very critical of the Obama administration as well.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:39 AM eighthcomment Says:

The issue is not if the system is fair - the question is is this movement good for the Jews- the answer is probably not! The economy is a cycle and will come back- most of these people want another ism- and are for palestinian rights etc...Jews always get caught up in hurting themseleves

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:50 AM yaakov doe Says:

The photos are by "Jimmy Justice" who made the videos in past years of parking agents parking illegallly and his confronations with them. Was he a particpant in the protest?

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:13 AM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

You mention Purim so you must be jewish. Have you ever given Maser? Its a jewish law. You Must Give X Dollars.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:16 AM ThatEli Says:

Reply to #21  
busy Says:

One of their main stated beliefs is "wiping out all debt" on all levels - from international to individual consumer credit card. That is most certainly NOT a Jewish concept.

These are antisemitic anarchists and we should stay far far away from them.

Really? Have you ever heard of shemitas kesafim when all debts are canceled? Ever heard of yovel when the land is "redistributed"? Ever hear of ma'asros and terumos which are income taxes to help support the priestly class? I'm conservative and don't agree with debt forgiveness but and the protestor's demand but you're kidding yourself if you think the Torah does not have socialist elements in it.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:18 AM shvoiltug Says:

This has nothing to do with social justice and everything to do with a free handout. These kids that were raised and educated in a culture of entitlement, have had life handed to them on a silver platter and now that the spigot has run dry, they're furious?
Most of them dont even know why they are there. When asked by interveiwers what they want the current system replaced with, they stutter, hem and haw, or simply give you the "deer in the headlights" stare, like they never even thought about it !! They use terms like "redistribute the wealth", and "kill the Wealthy". Sounds like communism to me. How did that 70 year experiment work out for you?!?!
One girl told me she would like a system more like Europe. After I finished laughing, I asked if she was aware that Greece is on the brink of bankrupcy and Italy,Spain,Portugal, Ireland , just to mention a few, are on the brink as well. Even the so called healthy European economys like France, Britan, and Germany are struggling ,and now they are balking at bailing out Greece et.al. Predictably , once those little facts sunk in, all I got was, "REALLY"?
This country has simply gotten too fat and lazy.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:25 AM heimish770 Says:

Reply to #23  
CommonSense Says:

What Torah have you been reading?

The Torah is very clear on how much of your wealth you HAVE to give to others.
So yes..we do spread the wealth..and no it's not voluntary.

CORRECT, and guess what, it's NO MORE than 20% and no less than 10%.

If the rich want to give more than 10%, then it's their choice!!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:45 AM ShmorPicha Says:

What a Chillul Hashem! These people completely miss the point of Yom Kippur. Its a day that were not supposed to worry about physicality and gashmiyus and here these people are protesting to the government about the economy! Its such an oxymoron to be standing out there on Yom Kippur as a Jew protesting this.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:50 AM woofer Says:

Reply to #4  
FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

sorry #1 but socialism and liberalism are not Jewish values no matter how much you and others of your ilk would like it to be. so no, #1, no rabbis and/or askanim will associate themselves with this dangerous silliness.

Really? Here's what we read in my shul on Yom Kippur. Did you read it in your shul? I mean did you READ it? Or did someone pay $1000 to make a bracha and then mumble it in Hebrew with no understanding?

Because on your fast day
You see to your business
And oppress all your laborers!
Because you fast in strife and contention,
And you strike with a wicked fist!
your fasting today is not such
As to make your voice heard on high.
Is such the fast I desire,
A day for men to starve their bodies?
Is it bowing the head like a bulrush
And lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Do you call that a fast,
A day when the Lord is favorable?
No, this is the fast I desire:
To unlock the fetters of wickedness,
And untie the cords of the yoke
To let the oppressed go free;
To break off every yoke.
It is to share your bread with the hungry,
And to take the wretched poor into your home;
When you see the naked, to clothe him,
And not to ignore your own kin.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:51 AM Ariela Says:

Reply to #6  
Lodzker Says:

what? its not our way to get involved in the social movements of the time.

Well then maybe we Jew's should worry about our own "for a change", work on Unifying through our history and our faith. We have no part in any of this meaningless parading.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:51 AM Babishka Says:

Reply to #25  
Gules Says:

#1 FRUM JEW? They are mechalel yom kippur befarhesia you consider this jewish? Shame on vin for posting pics of such chillul hashem.

They carry theyr machzorim in the street on yom kippur is against halacha.

Be "dan l'kaf z'chus" on your fellow Yidden. How do you know they did not make an eruv around the perimeter of their "shul"? If they did not know of such a concept as "eruv" they are tinokos shenishbu. They were NOT being "mechalal yom kippur befarhesia" if that was their intention they would be eating cheeseburgers from McDonald's. No, these are Yidden whose "pintel Yid" urged them to fast and davven. This is a KIDDUSH HASHEM.

And by the way, I support the protests at "Occupy Wall Street"! It's true that they could do more to distance themselves from the communists and "Adbusters" but there is really no central organization to these events, they have no leaders. Unlike the "Tea Parties" which are organized by the zillionaire Koch Brothers and which include White Supremcists and Christian Dominionists (please feel free to Google "Christian Dominonist" they are very scary folks and there is no room for Yidden in their little world). Also Google "Koch Industries" these guys are such supervillains, they could eat George Soros for breakfast.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 11:06 AM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #32  
heimish770 Says:

CORRECT, and guess what, it's NO MORE than 20% and no less than 10%.

If the rich want to give more than 10%, then it's their choice!!

What's a difference what the percentage is? It's the principle that's the same.

And the Torah gives the King or Gov't the authority to tax the population above the tithes that the Torah mentions for whatever it deems necessary.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 11:07 AM shtill Says:

Socialism is, indeed, a Jewish value. From forcing locals to pay tuition for those children who's parents can't afford it (look it up in shulchan aruch) to mandatory contributions to the town's "kippah" in order to provide food for the needy. Chazal teach us - g-d. Created the poor so the rich can benefit by providing for them. That is another way of saying spreading the wealth. The Torah, while it may not the social model these protesters envision, is still closer to the socialist values these protesters identify with than the immoral and corrupt capitalist values.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 11:09 AM Ariela Says:

Reply to #30  
ThatEli Says:

Really? Have you ever heard of shemitas kesafim when all debts are canceled? Ever heard of yovel when the land is "redistributed"? Ever hear of ma'asros and terumos which are income taxes to help support the priestly class? I'm conservative and don't agree with debt forgiveness but and the protestor's demand but you're kidding yourself if you think the Torah does not have socialist elements in it.

Yes However, we also have free will... even with consequences and then we have Beit Den for true justice.... Which is not offered in the world social justice ideology. Jew's who study the Torah as a LAW system as well as a Justice system can see the divine system is indeed superior and perfect if not intermingled with goula ideals. This is one thing uneducated or super educated so much their brains are falling out can not see.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 11:10 AM rebbeofalltherebbes Says:

i haven't seen the Berditichiver being quoted.
"Look at Am Yisroel, in the midst of protesting, and being raised with very little Jewish background, they still don't forget Yom Kippur"

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 11:59 AM Liepa Says:

You're so right, that's exactly what happened to me. I used to work in the IT departments of high flying Wall Street banking firms.
At first these Indians with their H1B visas were very few, but than all of a sudden all my co-workers were Indian.
Problem is, they've now traded in their H1B visas for Green Cards and Naturalization certificates.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 12:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
A bissek Kliger Says:

Isn't "erev" and evening? You must have meant ERUV....fyi: manhattan is an island and as such, there are those who hold that it doesn't require and eruv. Also, why do you bash?? At least they have a "pintele yid" in them. Be dan lekaf zchus.

Us yidden have different pronunciations. Another one of your mistakes is that frum yidden (not the "frum" mixed, carrying crowd in the pics) know for years that there's no eruv covering all of Manhattan, and the "Wall" area doensn't have one.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 12:26 PM Aryeh Says:

This movement is simply about removing political power wielded by the government in favor of corporations and replacing it with a balance in our favor as intended by the constitution. This is neither Republican or Democratic, but at it's core a Libertarian movement.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 12:31 PM Geulah Says:

Reply to #20  
SherryTheNoahide Says:

Excellent post!

I wonder when people complain so much about Unions, (my husband is a Union Ironworker by the way), if they bother to take into consideration the fact that nobody in this country would even HAVE a 5-day work week w\Shabbos off, if it weren't for the fighting men & women of the Unions of old, sticking up for worker's rights!

We'd all be working 60-80hrs a week, back-breaking work, little to no breaks, barely a lunch & the thought of actually being allow "sick leave" would be a joke! You'd lose your job RIGHT AWAY, if G-d forbid you get sick & need to take a couple of days off!

There'd be no time for vacation w\family, no time for them on the weekends because you'd be working them too probably, (unless they gave you their Christian holiday of Sunday off, which isn't going to help the Yidden any!- lol), and oh yeah... did I mention no company would have to pay you fairly either? They could pay you slave wages & there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it!

You non-Union people want to go live in China where there *aren't* any Unions & see how much you like THOSE working conditions over there?! Ha!

People praising the movements started and run by Gompers et al need an historical retrospective. The unions weren't started because of Shabbos and the union movement wasn't about respecting religious beliefs. It was and is about standing up to the tyranny and thuggery of bosses such as those at the Pullman company who hired Pinkerton to beat the daylights out of workers. Those noble beginnings have led to a thuggery uniquely union and any striking worker in NYS knows about the Taylor law and how union myopia has cost union workers hundreds of thousands of dollars.
When we acknowledge that the speculators and gamblers have taken over our economic policy making, pushing aside real investment then we will understand that unions weren't the cause nor are they a solution. Jobs have been sold to 3rd world countries because speculators - read shareholders - demand more for less. We, the people, in order to live a life that is burdenless have created a self-defeating predicament and catch-22. To rid ourselves of the speculators, we have to go to work. To go to work, we have to stop being speculators.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 01:21 PM MazelKGH Says:

Reply to #34  
woofer Says:

Really? Here's what we read in my shul on Yom Kippur. Did you read it in your shul? I mean did you READ it? Or did someone pay $1000 to make a bracha and then mumble it in Hebrew with no understanding?

Because on your fast day
You see to your business
And oppress all your laborers!
Because you fast in strife and contention,
And you strike with a wicked fist!
your fasting today is not such
As to make your voice heard on high.
Is such the fast I desire,
A day for men to starve their bodies?
Is it bowing the head like a bulrush
And lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Do you call that a fast,
A day when the Lord is favorable?
No, this is the fast I desire:
To unlock the fetters of wickedness,
And untie the cords of the yoke
To let the oppressed go free;
To break off every yoke.
It is to share your bread with the hungry,
And to take the wretched poor into your home;
When you see the naked, to clothe him,
And not to ignore your own kin.

Bravo Woofer! The millionaires pay big bucks to read it but even as the Woofer barks it's like a sermon than no one will hear. All they can remember is the climb up the ladder. They forget that very soon they will be come tumbling down and will have to deal with the same people they stepped upon on the way up. I truly don't mind all the pain and suffering because my reward is near and great.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 02:34 PM Insider wall st Says:

Protesting at the right location Brown Brothers Harriman is one of those Greedy Wall Street firms it employees a lot of people from India on H1B visas.

Just send back a million of the H1B visa people to India, bring back the jobs from India and China, and STOP china from manipulating the US currency. Then you will see how many unemployed people will get back their jobs.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 03:27 PM Anonymous Says:

Is there an eiruv there?

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 03:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

What do you call "Leket, Shikcha, Peah and Maaser Ani?"

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 04:02 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
SherryTheNoahide Says:

Excellent post!

I wonder when people complain so much about Unions, (my husband is a Union Ironworker by the way), if they bother to take into consideration the fact that nobody in this country would even HAVE a 5-day work week w\Shabbos off, if it weren't for the fighting men & women of the Unions of old, sticking up for worker's rights!

We'd all be working 60-80hrs a week, back-breaking work, little to no breaks, barely a lunch & the thought of actually being allow "sick leave" would be a joke! You'd lose your job RIGHT AWAY, if G-d forbid you get sick & need to take a couple of days off!

There'd be no time for vacation w\family, no time for them on the weekends because you'd be working them too probably, (unless they gave you their Christian holiday of Sunday off, which isn't going to help the Yidden any!- lol), and oh yeah... did I mention no company would have to pay you fairly either? They could pay you slave wages & there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it!

You non-Union people want to go live in China where there *aren't* any Unions & see how much you like THOSE working conditions over there?! Ha!

You are right but that doesn't mean that the union leaders need millions in salaries and these fancy buildings they are housed in..

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 05:42 PM leahle Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

And by the way the corrupt super rich u refer to are all crazy liberals.

oh, really? Generalize much? In your world is everything black or white, or do you have room for nuance? Corruption has nothing to do with whether one is liberal or conservative. Let me venture a guess and say that you get much of your "information" from Rush, Beck, Fox, Boortz, etc. You won't listen to me, but I can't help suggesting that you actually obtain some real, factual news and spend some time thinking about it. It is ultimately much more fulfilling than parroting the opinions of the ignorant.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 08:15 PM anon Says:

Reply to #31  
shvoiltug Says:

This has nothing to do with social justice and everything to do with a free handout. These kids that were raised and educated in a culture of entitlement, have had life handed to them on a silver platter and now that the spigot has run dry, they're furious?
Most of them dont even know why they are there. When asked by interveiwers what they want the current system replaced with, they stutter, hem and haw, or simply give you the "deer in the headlights" stare, like they never even thought about it !! They use terms like "redistribute the wealth", and "kill the Wealthy". Sounds like communism to me. How did that 70 year experiment work out for you?!?!
One girl told me she would like a system more like Europe. After I finished laughing, I asked if she was aware that Greece is on the brink of bankrupcy and Italy,Spain,Portugal, Ireland , just to mention a few, are on the brink as well. Even the so called healthy European economys like France, Britan, and Germany are struggling ,and now they are balking at bailing out Greece et.al. Predictably , once those little facts sunk in, all I got was, "REALLY"?
This country has simply gotten too fat and lazy.

Like statistics, the conclusion differs depending upon the question and the questioned. I've seen and read plenty of interviews of average Americans who were laid off and can't find work, who have crushing student loans and don't know whether they will ever get jobs to pay them off, who are older people working 2 and 3 jobs to stay afloat. Of course, you will find all kinds of people at the occupations - some will be anti-Israel and some anti-Jewish - that goes without saying at any gathering. As this article shows, however, there are also many Jews. 99% of the population has been losing ground for the past 30 years while 1% gets richer and uses their money to game the system. All people are asking for is for the old America, where poor immigrants like our ancestors could step out of steerage and make a good life for their families by working hard. That is not about hand-outs. It is about America.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:22 PM JustCommonSense Says:

I don't understand what rights these people have that the Corporations are taking from them.

I always understood that in the U.S. you're free to engage and succeed in any work, service, business that you desire, and find a market for where you can earn a profit or money for your work or service, as long as you do it in a legal manner.

No where was it guranteed that people or companies would actually buy the product, service or work.

You're solely responsible to be articulate and flexible so that your work, product or service is something others desire and want to pay you what you're asking for.

I agree that Corporations doing illlegal activities should be punished.

However, giving away jobs to the lowest cost provider is not illegal at all. It's not even greedy as they don't owe you anything!

Matter of fact, when was the last time you chose to buy from a more expensive provider simply because you thought that they deserve to earn more money?

Now about shipping jobs overseas, is a much larger debate. This relates to how much we want other countries to allow our products and services to be sold in their countries, so we must reciprocate and allow their cheaper products in here as well. Should we put a limit on how much? This I agree is debatable.

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 10:04 PM Anonymous Says:

To #1- There are no frum Jews involved with this protest. Yes, there are Jews involved, but certainly not frum. I don't think that the Jewish participation with the protestors amounts to anything substantial; and, I hope that it stays that way. There are enough problems amoung Yidden, without getting involved with this. In 1961, nearly 50% of the Freedom Riders were Yidden. They went to jail, and were beaten along with the others. Where did that get Yidden 50 years later? Yidden are hated and despised by the same people that they went to jail for, a half century ago. In addition, many of the protestors use code words such as "Wall Street" and "Goldman, Sachs", In reality, they are referring to Jews. Those protestors are not as liberal, as they would have people believe!

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 Oct 09, 2011 at 09:50 PM PMOinFL Says:

I don't get why people are so upset. When people protest against the government being influenced by special interest groups, they are called "patriots" by people like Hannity and Limbaugh. When people protest the LARGEST of the "special interest" groups, they are called "crazy" and "anarchists" by the same people. LOL

I love how the entertainment media is SO ridiculously phony. What makes me laugh even harder is how many in our community are so DUMB as to believe what these entertainers say as if it were FACT. LOL

There is a reason programs by the likes of Hannity, Beck, Maddow, Olbermann, etc. are all listed as ENTERTAINMENT programming hours with the FCC. That is the same category as John Stewart's show or Saturday Night Live.

There is a valid argument to be made here. No industry on earth has ever had such influence over our government like this one. Mortgage-backed securities, one of the 2 biggest contributors in bankrupting this nation, were created through deregulation in the earliest parts of the Bush years as a pay-off for getting him elected.

SOME (not all) of these firms are guilty of STEALING our money through quid pro quo legislation and we all know it!

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 Oct 10, 2011 at 06:37 AM concerned_Jew Says:

i think we should apply the social security tax on everyone rich and poor without a cap. now that's fair, right? same tax rate for everyone regardless of income level.

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 Oct 10, 2011 at 11:29 AM Anonymous Says:

Sounds like communism to me. When will we learn that instead of waiting for hand outs, let's do what our parents & grandparents did. GO TO WORK! Make our lives better not wait for government hand outs. Not waste a precious Yom Kippur in protest. Wake up Yidden, this is not our way, this is not the Torah way, this is not what Hashem wants. Shash es yomim tavo!

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 Oct 10, 2011 at 01:01 PM ShmuelG Says:

Social justice-oriented Kol Nidre service? Now, that’s hilarious. I haven't had such a good laugh since... the last time I looked at the pictures of these dirty, smelly, pot smoking degenerates.

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 Oct 10, 2011 at 01:07 PM OccupyAgudah Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Um, did you have too much to drink or something? Or are you a little early for Purim?
A) Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways).
B) Fairness aint in the Torah. We hold that Hashem decides how much we each deserve/should get and that is that. Nothing is fair in life. Sorry to break it to you- its something your parents should have taught you decades ago.
C) What are they proposing we do? What are the protests about, besides some people who want to bring back the hippee-days of old? They are just yelling about lots of things but do they have any plans except for socialism? (which has never worked anywhere).

"Where in Yiddishkeit do we talk about "spreading the wealth"? We don't believe in that. We hold that local communities should help locals. Brothers should help each other. Not some governmental decree that says you must give X dollars in (where most goes to overhead anyways). "

Ever heard of "shmitah and yovel?"

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