“ Its the people themselves that want it separate. Nobody is forcing this onto women ”

“ Its the people themselves that want it separate. Nobody is forcing this onto women ”

“ it doesn't matter if you agree to this practice or not, the fact is that this route is subsidized with taxpayer money and runs an official franchise route. It is most likely illegal. The only way to get around this is if it is not the official compant policy but rather the passengers do it voluntarily. if that is the the case then if a female reporter gets on and sits in the front no one could tell her a word. (yeah, like that will happen.)

In the end they might have to institute a private line without goverment money. Perhaps run as a non-profit with support from members of the community. ”

“ If the people who ride the bus agree to ride this way then it is perfectly ok. There is no one forcing anyone to ride in the front or the back of the bus. This policy is strickly voluntary, therefore there shouldn't be any problem with this. The goverment is trying to make an issue of a non-issue, to save people who do not want to be saved, to fight a war where there is no conflict. There is no need to waste our tax money by investigating this bus. ”

“ If a gentile will board such a bus someone will explaine the Jewish custom and ask to please sit in the womens section, nobody ever forces anyone. ”

“ Do you honestly believe that? Do women in Orthodox world have much say or freedom to protest the status quo? Get real. I don't know what woman volunteers to being treated like cattle. The men that ride these buses should be ashamed of themselves but they never will because they feel that they live under Torah values. When women with multiple kids and with strollers are expected to be stuffed into back section where there are always less seats and adult, healthy males sit around looking at these women standing, it's a shameful travesty. Even Arabs have basic decency to stand up for a woman with a child, and not force her to the back. ”

“ Of course it's being forced on the women, do you honestly think that women want to walk past all those staring men to sit in the back? Talk about an untzniusdik environment! Let the men walk all the way to the back. ”

“ If a gentile will board such a bus someone will explaine the Jewish custom and ask to please sit in the womens section, nobody ever forces anyone. ”

“ You're still missing the point. This is a Jewish religious practice not incumbent on gentiles. If this were a totally private bus service, then it would be different. The bus company operates pursuant to a city contract, which means some type of public subsidy is involved. Public money may not be used to enforce a denominational religous practice. I am a Jew residing in a Jewish neighborhood but I would not want to be asked to abide by a Muslim, Christian, Wiccan, Buddhist or whatever religious practice on a publicly financed transit system. This is the US and any person can freely walk on a public street or ride public transit. ”

“ We are being forced into this! Its enough of the fanatical and insular behavior that has made ultra orthodox Judaism look more like a cult that a religion. ”

“ Shred. You're so predictable. Even with my eyes closed, (and one hand tied behind my back) I could tell how you will come down on any issue involving Yidden. But your English (Grammar and Spelling) need major improvement. My profile (of you) stands. You are an immigrant of the former Soviet Union. (Nothing wrong with that.) But you were indoctrinated by the communists to hate anything that smells of religion. I think it's time you discarded those old dogmas and doctrines that are now on the scrap heap of history. (I'm not judging on the issue, just commenting on Shred's reflexive reaction to issues.) ”

“ These tired and overworked women should go on strike. No cooking,cleaning or marital relations. We'll see how long it takes to change these "menschens" behavior. ”