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Buenos Aires, Argentina - Fox Apologizes To Jews For Facebook Poll On Christ

Published on: December 29, 2011 06:59 PM
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Buenos Aires, Argentina - Fox Latin America has apologized for a poll on whether Jews killed Christ that one of its staffers put on a Facebook page promoting the National Geographic Channel’s Christmas special.

The poll asked readers who they think is responsible for the death of Christ: Pontius Pilate, The Jewish People or the High Priests.

The Simon Weisenthal Center in Buenos Aires calls it a defamatory reference to Vatican propaganda that “resulted in the persecution and murder of Jews for two millennia.”

The Jewish group says it’s outraged that Fox would perpetuate an idea that the Vatican annulled back in 1965.

Fox Spokeswoman Guadalupe Lucero apologized on behalf of National Geographic, saying the poll was removed immediately and measures have been taken to prevent such incidents in the future.


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 Dec 29, 2011 at 07:36 PM SherryTheNoahide Says:

What?!?! >[:-P

I cannot believe someone thought this would be an acceptable subject for polling!

Then again, it's X-Mas Season...and a lot of Conservative Xtians start getting a little nutso this time of year!

Bill O'Reiley w\his "War on X-Mas" every single year

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 Dec 29, 2011 at 08:07 PM Secular Says:

While this topic is broad and has little consensus, a few facts:

1) The Talmud, notably in Sanhedrin 43a-b seems to imply that Jesus was in fact executed by the Sanhedrin (not the high priests).

2) The Talmud, also in Sanhedrin and Sotah also states that about forty years before the destruction of the Temple the Sanhedrin no longer tried capital cases.

3) Many 'Rishonim" (perhaps under duress) claimed that the "historical Jesus" was not the notorious Yeshua from the Talmud, who was a disciple of Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Perachia and lived ~150 years before the destruction of the Temple. (Counter to the christian claim that Jesus was killed ~40 years before the destruction).

4) The New Testament for the most part is NOT eyewitness acounts, but rather an amalgam and retelling of various messianic traditions, stories and fables retold decades after the purported events.

Opinion: It is my heart felt belief that there was no "historical Jesus", it was a literary fabrication and amalgam of different stories that occurred in that tumultuous time. How else does one explain the growing anti-semitism seen in the later gospels Luke and Peter. ... continued...

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 Dec 29, 2011 at 08:13 PM PMOinFL Says:

Wait.... Fox put out some ridiculous, unscientific poll for no reason other than shock value? I'm stunned. I can't imagine Fox (News Corp) doing something like that!*

* Sarcasm 100% intended.

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 Dec 29, 2011 at 08:30 PM Secular Says:

Continued...

How else does one explain the 'casting' of the villain in the New testament as 'JUDAS', the name and appellation of all Jews. The latter gospels: Luke, Peter appealed to a less Jewish and more Greek and gentile audience. This allowed for the authors of the NT to become more vile and hateful toward the pharisaic Jews. Not only were Jews vilified and targeted because of the rejection of their messiah/(god). But because of the more severe persecution they endured under certain roman emperors/Caesars; namely Marcus Aurelius ( no coincidence that he was friends with rabbi Yehuda haNasi).

See also: Otzar Vikuhim by Rabbi Eisenshtein,
See also Haym Maccoby and his works. (google him)

Interesting to note that in the RambaN's dispute with pablo there was no mention , of the Jews' fault in Jesus execution.

more.....

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 Dec 29, 2011 at 08:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Nothing to apologize for - it is important to know how many people believe that

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 12:46 AM hey_you_never_know Says:

Reply to #4  
Secular Says:

Continued...

How else does one explain the 'casting' of the villain in the New testament as 'JUDAS', the name and appellation of all Jews. The latter gospels: Luke, Peter appealed to a less Jewish and more Greek and gentile audience. This allowed for the authors of the NT to become more vile and hateful toward the pharisaic Jews. Not only were Jews vilified and targeted because of the rejection of their messiah/(god). But because of the more severe persecution they endured under certain roman emperors/Caesars; namely Marcus Aurelius ( no coincidence that he was friends with rabbi Yehuda haNasi).

See also: Otzar Vikuhim by Rabbi Eisenshtein,
See also Haym Maccoby and his works. (google him)

Interesting to note that in the RambaN's dispute with pablo there was no mention , of the Jews' fault in Jesus execution.

more.....

You don't sound so secular after all...you seem pretty knowledgeable to me...keep'em coming I love to hear history

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Secular Says:

While this topic is broad and has little consensus, a few facts:

1) The Talmud, notably in Sanhedrin 43a-b seems to imply that Jesus was in fact executed by the Sanhedrin (not the high priests).

2) The Talmud, also in Sanhedrin and Sotah also states that about forty years before the destruction of the Temple the Sanhedrin no longer tried capital cases.

3) Many 'Rishonim" (perhaps under duress) claimed that the "historical Jesus" was not the notorious Yeshua from the Talmud, who was a disciple of Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Perachia and lived ~150 years before the destruction of the Temple. (Counter to the christian claim that Jesus was killed ~40 years before the destruction).

4) The New Testament for the most part is NOT eyewitness acounts, but rather an amalgam and retelling of various messianic traditions, stories and fables retold decades after the purported events.

Opinion: It is my heart felt belief that there was no "historical Jesus", it was a literary fabrication and amalgam of different stories that occurred in that tumultuous time. How else does one explain the growing anti-semitism seen in the later gospels Luke and Peter. ... continued...

"Jesus was in fact executed by the Sanhedrin"
Crucifixion was a Roman method, not Jewish. Get your facts straight, before you perpetuate a calumny on the Jews!

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 01:44 PM Secular Says:

...In addition, the Gemara in Sanhedrin states that Jesus/Yeshua was killed on 'Erev Pesach'. (last supper? or the night before the last supper?)

As far as crucifixion, yes the Romans did crucify, but the Sanhedrin also hung people for certain offenses as stated in the Talmud 45b. The idea of crucifixion may have been based on a Greek translation of hanging, when indeed the Sanhedrin hanged a certain Yeshua AFTER he he was stoned for idolatry/blasphemy/incitement to idolatry. It may also have been a 'Horoas Sha'ah' and they may have killed them or have the Romans kill him, because of extenuating circumstances, and not based on the letter of the law.

Interestingly, as far as we know the Sanhedrin didn't try capital cases on Erev Yom Tov, however a Zaken Mamreh, or a Mesit U'mediach was executed during the festivals.

opinion: I believe the story of the three kings was an attempt to bring a sense of biblical reality to the story of Jesus's birth by echoing the story of Abraham and the three angels. However because early Christians were by far 'amHaratzim' they confused 'Malachim' with 'Melachim' and hence the story of the three kings was born.

more...

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 01:47 PM shredready Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Nothing to apologize for - it is important to know how many people believe that

I agree however since it was not done they way a real poll should be done not sure of the value

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 01:49 PM shredready Says:

believing Jews kill Jesus is not anti semitic.

blaming todays Jews are

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 Dec 30, 2011 at 02:35 PM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #7  
Says:

"Jesus was in fact executed by the Sanhedrin"
Crucifixion was a Roman method, not Jewish. Get your facts straight, before you perpetuate a calumny on the Jews!

No, it's you who needs to improve reading comprehension before you post anything at all.

It is clear that Secular in #2 doesn't give his own opinion that Jesus was executed by the Sanhedrin, he merely cites (accurately) the sugias from Sanhedrin that tell mention a man some believe to be Jesus being executed by the Sanhedrin.

In the end of his post, Secular states his own opinion that Jesus the man never existed, much less executed by Sanhedrin.

But then again, you just needed to vent...

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