Jerusalem – In Fiery Speech Noted Rabbi Suggests Violence Against Charedi Extremists Says They Are Animals

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    Jerusalem – A well known Rosh Yeshiva who is also a popular figure in the Sephardi kiruv world had nothing but contempt and scorn for Charedi Israeli extremists.

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    Rabbi Rafael Zar, Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshiva Ohr Dor – Ohr Yehuda, a noted baal mussar and considered by some as a spiritual leader, had strong words for those who resort to extreme measures, in the name of tznius.

    “They are the worst kind of evildoers, far worse than the most secular individual,” said Rabbi Zar. “If I could I would break their arms and legs. This is not just my opinion, it is the opinion of Chazal. They would catch them, give them lashes and break their bones for their appalling behavior.

    Spitting on women? I am appalled by this and any true Ben Torah feels the same way about this garbage. The people who do this are nothing more than garbage and they bring a foul stench to the scent of Torah in this world. It is repulsive. To spit on a Jewish Girl? Who do you think you are?

    Anyone whose middos are so corrupt, is not a Jew in my eyes. He is an animal.”

    “Someone who commits a Chilul Hashem like this does not deserve to have a beard. It is an embarrassment. According to the Holy Tazdik Baba Sali Zt’l there are Jews that when they will go to gehenim, the fire will start from their beard, because they don’t deserve to have a beard.”

    Rabbi Zar further continued to lambast those have created the furor over segregation in Israel, saying that those who refuse to sit next to a woman on a bus should get off the bus and take a different bus with fewer women because a true yarei shomayim would not raise a commotion over an issue like this.

    He also added that he suspects that many of those who pretend to be overly pious in public are probably guilty of transgressing the gravest sins that can be committed by a Jew in private.

    Watch the full speech below.


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    Dmandel
    Dmandel
    12 years ago

    Finally a normal yid says something!!!

    ilovehashem
    ilovehashem
    12 years ago

    its about time that a rabbi will tell the truth about these crazy extemists ..kol hakavod to this rabbi for not bieng scared to tell the truth and to show how it is

    12 years ago

    I am beardless and PROUD. Shaving off of their beards of these zealots is NOT a punishment. They are reshoim with or without their beards.

    PrettyBoyFloyd
    PrettyBoyFloyd
    12 years ago

    I believe he’s right, but they think HE’s the one who’s irreligious. So who wins?

    shredready
    shredready
    12 years ago

    a little strong but good for him for attacking this head on

    Facts1
    Facts1
    12 years ago

    Rabbi Who?

    Never heard of him before.

    12 years ago

    The Rav speak emes regarding the unimaginable chillul hashem committed by these chareidim and the wish that they should suffer physical retribution in olam hazeh for their actions in addition to what we are hoping will be their just rewards in gehenom.

    Erlich
    Erlich
    12 years ago

    My deepest appreciation for Rav Zar Shlitah. He is a remarkable Manhik, Jewish leader, for speaking out against the vile acts against Jewish girls and women. Kol Hakavod.

    12 years ago

    If I grew up around rabbis like this I would probably still be religious.

    MAYERFREUND
    MAYERFREUND
    12 years ago

    The author writes
    “said Rabbi Zar. “If I could I would break their arms and legs.”
    please bring proof in witch mussar sefer it says to do this.

    Paulie123
    Paulie123
    12 years ago

    Why arent there more Rabbis coming out this way?

    moshe1
    moshe1
    12 years ago

    did he forgot the gamora bruchot daf 20a

    Rav Adda bar Ahavah saw a Cutite woman who was wearing a
    karbalta.4 He thought she was Jewish and got up and tore it from her. It was
    discovered that she was a Cutite woman. They evaluated [his penalty] at 400 zuz.
    He asked her: what is your name? She answered: Matun. He said to her: Matun
    matun was worth four hundred zuz!

    Avi613
    Avi613
    12 years ago

    “If I could I would break their arms and legs.  This is not just my opinion, it is the opinion of Chazal.  They would catch them, give them lashes and break their bones for their appalling behavior.

    Then u r not really any better then them… They also believe that they have a right to do this..

    12 years ago

    So we have this unknown rabbi and we have rabonim from the edea hacridis well known gdolim

    LEEAVE
    LEEAVE
    12 years ago

    i guess he hates ashkanazim!!!!!!!

    Halaivy
    Halaivy
    12 years ago

    Finally one so called rabbi (that we never heard of) agrees with the other side.
    Who is he, whats his credentials, can he back up his claims besides with his feelings.
    While we all condemned violence like spiting at a little girl he preaches violence and uses it to lower the standards of tznius.
    The charedim of Yerushalyim have been strong on their yidishkeit for hundreds of years and that’s why the Torah stayed so strong there.

    Yazmach
    Yazmach
    12 years ago

    Watching this clip he seems to me more like an entertainer than a noted Baal Mussar and a spiritual leader

    villyamsburger
    villyamsburger
    12 years ago

    Okay Rabbi relax!
    Nowhere in the torah does is say that u can break arms and legs.
    Take a chill pill and enjoy the new found fame!

    cp123
    cp123
    12 years ago

    never heard of him but boy is it refreshing to see this!

    joek212
    joek212
    12 years ago

    So now all of you torah haters that don’t really care what rabbonim have to say are rejoicing because a rabbi u never heard of is advocating violence but the badat”s that are renowned gedolim are idiots because they don’t agree with you!

    12 years ago

    What does Rabbi Zar say about what the Zionists (including frum Zionists) do that is in violation of the Torah and the decree of Golus?? I am always amazed at the double standard…….

    YossieW
    YossieW
    12 years ago

    This guy is NUTS but right!

    oiber-chacham
    oiber-chacham
    12 years ago

    finally some refreshing words of sanity,from that insane asylum called mea shearim

    tired
    tired
    12 years ago

    agree or don’t agree but this is for sure, “who pretend to be overly pious in public are probably guilty of transgressing the gravest sins that can be committed by a Jew in private”cant argue the facts sorry but that’s a fact children you know it yes you, if you think you are fooling anybody you are not

    FALLSBURGER
    FALLSBURGER
    12 years ago

    If those 2 yingerleit from Beis Shemesh were arrested for allegedly distributing pictures of a police chief portrayed as a Na….. For inciting to violence,
    Then this Rabbi who actually called for breaking arms & legs should be arrested as well for inciting violence.
    But don’t hold your breath…. He is calling for violence against those terrible chareidim…… its ok…
    Did he also threaten to break the arms & legs of those settlers who attacked the holy IDF ???

    12 years ago

    His last sentence is prob real true

    12 years ago

    i agree with all of you!

    itzik18
    itzik18
    12 years ago

    Rav Moshe Weinberger in Woodmere, Long Island, said the same thing in his Rav Kook shiur last week – he also encouraged violence against these guys and suggested that they are secretly sexual deviants

    SOYPURE
    SOYPURE
    12 years ago

    Interesting how he rants and raves “If I could I would break their arms and legs. This is not just my opinion; it is the opinion of Chazal. They would catch them, give them lashes and break their bones for their appalling behavior. He also describes how would personally gouge out both eyes (probably because that’s what the torah wants you to do according to him) but finishes his speech that the way of the torah/his way is sweet and peaceful

    oyoyoy
    oyoyoy
    12 years ago

    Message to the spitters and their supporters:
    Tzniut is applicable to men as well.
    Spitting and yelling at women is not tzniut.
    If you want to serve Hashem, go learn and work to support your family and others who need it.
    Next time you see a lady or girl, instead of inspecting her clothes ,maybe see if you can help her cope with the baby carriage or her peklach, unless of course you think her status is lower than your enemy’s donkey (Shmot 23/5)
    In that case please provide chapter and verse to substantiate your position.

    sechelhayusher
    sechelhayusher
    12 years ago

    is the issue of spiting on woman equal to trying to organize busses in charedi neighborhood when the secular have there own busses? why is he com bining them?
    on issue 1 noone agrees, spiting is off
    issue 2, all our gedolim here in benei berak sweated for it years on years it should come to happen.
    so what kind of godel is this rabbi, does sound like from yeshivish crowd

    Bpyingel
    Bpyingel
    12 years ago

    Is breaking arms and legs not violance ????
    He is talking the same way these kanaim are talking … he says “who do they think they are” …
    And who do u think YOU are ???

    The-Macher
    The-Macher
    12 years ago

    This is a style of speech and not an actual exhortation for anyone to break arms and legs. He makes it clear that he is not ready to do that but that is what they deserve. Contrast that to the leaders of the extremists who do indeed preach violence.

    HE is right about the extremists being deviants. They are a ragtag bunch of oisvorfen and shtinkers. They’ll only have their legs broken when the left no longer needs them to make us all look bad.

    ChulentBean
    ChulentBean
    12 years ago

    Kudos to this Rabbi he is 100% right and I hope people take his advise for real..It is time to do something with these crazy people who are ruining the reputation of the entire Frum community

    Bukharian
    Bukharian
    12 years ago

    once again, only sephardi Rabbiem are speaking about this crytical issue, everyone else is silent.

    Monseyboy
    Monseyboy
    12 years ago

    Dus is geret! Anyone above questioning what he’s saying has got some thinking to do. “I’m ekaish titapul” refers to crazies like these well said Rabbi! Animals is right!

    RebBaltimore
    RebBaltimore
    12 years ago

    His language is over the top & problematic: saying they are not Jews just isn’t so and threatening violence against them is equally wrong. Darchei Noam! Shalom!

    AviKes
    AviKes
    12 years ago

    #61 , only shaving off half a beard (Shmuel Bet 10:4). The Amish are machmir to shave the whole beard.

    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    12 years ago

    Instead of researching, let me ask you: half of Lakewood shaves. Do you think its the one mitzvah they are not careful with? Obviously they have nobody to be soimech on, according to you.

    MAYERFREUND
    MAYERFREUND
    12 years ago

    This person is a rabbi for the devil (satan). A person that can say only bad things and not one good word about another fellow Jew is exactly what the satan is doing.

    Yazmach
    Yazmach
    12 years ago

    The Satmar Rebbe zt”l once said a day that he is not vilified in the Zionist media and their religious U.S colleagues means he did not speak up enough for kovod shamiyaim (opposing Zionisim)

    The spiting on the girl story is a P.R campaign by the M.O against the eirliche yiden who protest against the deliberate provocations of the M.O who want to show the Chasidim that they will not makel Bait Shemesh in to another Meah shuirm “the M.O bear the responsibility for this chille Hashem “.

    The Vodislaver Rav zt”l (a razor sharp gaon who was a member of the rabbinical board of the Agudah prior to ww2 and after, until it became a pro Zionist political organization). Once said at a protest against police brutality in Israel, that there is Ahavas Yisroel and then there is Ahavas Poshiy Yisroel those that have extreme Ahavas Poshiy Yisroel are usually Soni Yisrael/Eirlche Yiden/Charidem. This speech and the others like his and most of the comments on this site regarding this issue have proven how right he was.

    Rabbi Rafael Zar shlita “relax” the Israeli police are doing to the charidim across Israel what you would so love to do them.

    manwith1leg
    manwith1leg
    12 years ago

    this is emes
    about time.