Los Angeles, CA – Charedi Rabbi: The Jewish Community Should Deal With Molesters Just Like Murderers

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    Rabbi Avrohom StulbergerLos Angeles, CA – The recent guilty plea of an Orthodox Rabbi to molestation charges in New Jersey as well as the District Attorney’s expressed hope that this case will encourage other parents of abused children from the Orthodox community to come forward to report crimes, beg the questions that have bothered me for years : Why is there such a reticence on the part of Orthodox Jews to put these perpetrators behind bars?

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    Why are threats of retribution aimed at the victims and their families if they report these crimes, when logic dictates that our wrath should be aimed at the abuser and not at the abused?

    I recently read an article in the L.A. Times about Phil Jackson’s new book, and what he says in it about Kobe Bryant. Jackson writes that he harbored a deep underlying hatred for Bryant the year that he was accused of sexual assault, because Jackson’s daughter was a victim of a similar assault years earlier. That episode, therefore, hit Jackson close to home. It struck me clearly that the mere fact that Jackson had a daughter wasn’t enough to affect him deeply. The basic feelings of empathy and compassion that dictate revulsion at the mere mention of such a heinous crime were apparently beyond even beyond Phil Jackson’s capabilities.

    I am not here to criticize Jackson, but could it be that we the chosen people, are mired in the same place? Do we hear the words “abuse” and “molestation”, shake our heads and move on?

    Do we, Heaven forbid have to feel the pain personally before we react the way a parent of a victim would? Let me make a suggestion: let us rename these people “murderers” instead of molesters. From a religious point of view , that is exactly what they are. Killing one’s souls, in Jewish law, is at least as destructive as killing one physically.

    In addition when a Rabbi or other religious authority figure invades a child’s world with abuse, he shatters the positive association with Torah that so significantly contributes to the child’s spirituality. When we compound the tragedy with intimation and cover-up, we bear the guilt of both pushing the knife into the hearts of the victims, and becoming accessories to the future murders of innocent neshamos.

    I am not being overly dramatic. Listen to the mental health professionals and hear how much of a struggle it is to rebuild theses victims’ self- esteem and trust. Can a Jew come to love Torah when its representative has so ravaged his inner peace and self-worth?

    The Torah commands us not to stand by idly as our fellow Jew’s blood is being spilled. This Halacha clearly encompasses more than actual blood: one’s mental and spiritual health are within its purview as well. Factoring in the intimacy issues that abuse raises later in life, the damaged caused is incalculable. Arguably, there is no greater single threat to a chid’s emerging Ruchnius than suffering the pain of sexual abuse.

    So let’s stop focusing on the sterling reputations of perpetrators and their family members, who inevitably rally to the molesters side. Let’s stop nonsensically pretending that we are turning innocent people over to the KGB or the Gestapo. Let’s stop listening to the empty promises that it won’t happen again. Instead, let’s start looking into these children’s hearts and let us cry at the agony that we see.

    Let’s look honestly at the fact that today as an Orthodox community we cannot manage our own house, and cannot promise that there will be no more victims. We don’t have the power. We don’t have the authority. And sadly, I fear that we don’t have the empathy.

    Rabbi Avrohom Stulberger is a prominent Charedi Rabbi and noted speaker. Rabbi Stulberger has been the Dean of Valley Torah High School for 27 years. Serves as the President of the Yeshiva Principals council of LA and has served on the Halachic Advisory Board of Aleinu Jewish Family Services for over a decade.

    This article was Sent to VIN by reader Rabbi Eliyahu Fink. The article first appeared in this weeks edition of Jewish Home LA, a California based magazine for the Charedi community, and is republished by VIN with permission.


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    CRITICISM
    CRITICISM
    10 years ago

    Agree, but, just like a murderer, we first must make sure that the accused is 100% guilty.

    Secular
    Secular
    10 years ago

    Kol Hakavod to Rabbi Stulberger.

    Though I’m not sure why the headline refers to him as Chareidi, when he’s an Orthodox Rabbi.

    10 years ago

    I find it difficult to heed the advice of a “rabbi” who spends his time reading the L.A. Times and more specifically articles like the one regarding a former NBA coaches book.

    Don’t get me wrong – I read the sports section myself, bu then again… I’m no Rabbi.

    10 years ago

    Finally some words of SANITY by a Charedi Rabbi. Unlike a certain rabbi who not only defended a three time convicted registered sex offender, but also went with him to court and tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to have his 10 year probation ended early!

    This is the step in the right direction. Kol Havavod to Rav Avrohom Stulberger!

    10 years ago

    Excellent article. At the end, “We cannot manage our own house…We don’t have the power. We don’t have the authority”. And in the beginning, “The recent guilty plea of an Orthodox Rabbi to molestation charges in New Jersey”.

    The message is that we need to prosecute.

    The rabbis asks, why do some of us have reticence to put perpetrators behind bars? There is the seemingly simple pasuk: “Tsedek tsedek tirdof…” Justice justice pursue. Why justice twice? The traditional answer is, pursue justice in a just manner. Another interpretation is that tsedek is repeated because Hashem knows how uncomfortable it is to pursue justice against one’s neighbor, chaver, rebbe. So the word tsedek is emphasized. We must overcome our social reticence, and force ourselves to do justice.

    The rabbi’s comparison of molestation to murder is not mere hyperbole. Medical studies, based on MRI and other diagnostic tests, establish that sex abuse does actual physical damage to the brain. It can inflict damage to the cells and DNA. Depression and post traumatic stress disorder can be inherited. Therapy is needed, and helps. There are shortened life spans. We must pursue justice.

    10 years ago

    Finally a Rabbi speaking the truth as uncomfortable as it is.

    ALTERG
    ALTERG
    10 years ago

    Ne news, everybody wants that, but ONLY if he is 100% guilty by a beis din, from a secular court is impossible to get out innocent, cause imagine a girl makes a falsh story on someone its NO WAY you sould go out free (like weberman, no dna, no witnesses, no camera, just he vs she)

    FBF37
    FBF37
    10 years ago

    One question is what is the torah law?? How can these Rabbonim continue to defend the undefendible? What do they know that we don’t? Are the Rabbonim saying that it’s muttar to molest? What about tznius? Many years ago I read about a case where a Rosh Yeshiva paskended that since the molestor did not “penetrate” then it’s OK?? Is this how they are paskening all of these cases? If yes then we need to rid of all the Rabbonim who think this way. We need to stand up as a klal. One person, 100 people cannot do it. All right minded thinking people need to stand up to the bullies at Agudah, YTV, YCB etc..

    DavidCohen
    DavidCohen
    10 years ago

    Perfectly stated. This article needs to be broadly republished and redistributed.

    Thank you, Rabbi Avrohom Stulberger.

    imhumble
    imhumble
    10 years ago

    the rabbi is right! these people are murderers not molesters they violate children, destroy their trust in Hashem and in people, lose their religious belief and sense of worth. so what are we doing to help the victims?? lots of kids out there who have no where to turn…. they are disenfranchised and they need camps, yeshivas and friends. any ideas for an 18 year old i know personally?

    10 years ago

    It seems that this is the only and biggest issue facing the Jewish communities nowadays. There are NO issues with lack of good paying jobs on the books, education or affordable housing especially for our younger generation.

    Those so called rabbis should know that thousands of our younger generation is suffering due to a lack of good paying jobs, lack higher education not even graduating high school or a lack of affordable housing in our communities. Why are there trying to shove more important issues under the hood by being busy with an issue affecting only a few rotten apples.

    borninthebronx
    borninthebronx
    10 years ago

    Kol Hakovod. Finally some sanity.

    FBF37
    FBF37
    10 years ago

    One more point. Not only does it hurt the victims it hurts the regular orthodox jew. I would consider myself an “adult at risk” now since there is no leadership in this matter.

    What I mean is I can under understand a molester who has sick cravings etc… He needs lots of help and needs to stay away from children (or just keep him in jail forever etc…) My main issue is the cover-up. Everyone says the cover-up is worse then the crime itself. How can such smart people continually defend these people? Why defend them?? In our community it’s even worse since you are threatened and thrown out of the community if you are the victim etc… It makes no sense!!

    10 years ago

    The Torah has an answer to all this חמישים שקלים look it up not over 100 years jail
    it’s seems an old problem

    10 years ago

    Stulberger has a well-written, cohesive article. The catch 22 is that since, instead of Torah values and true justice, the content is based on personal interpretations of and commentary on a newspaper article, it doesn’t matter that Stulberger holds a Rabbinic position. His words carry no more weight and obligation than if he were to offer his opinion while holding the position of, let’s say, a rock climber, high school student, or waiter.

    seicheldig
    seicheldig
    10 years ago

    What a rabbi. ? A rabbi is supposedly one who follows the toireh & haloche none of what he writes sounds close to haloche. He definetly reads more news papers or treife books that are full of zime. Then toireh or shilchon urich. So I guess that’s where he’s head is. Also a rabbi. What a chillul hshem

    10 years ago

    child molesters in the Jewish community need help too, they’re victims of a rigged isolated arrogant culture which judges everyone so harshly that it forces anyone in frum community thats growing up with urges that they don’t understand to hide their feelings because they are scared that they will be judged instead of being helped.

    qazxc
    qazxc
    10 years ago

    Why do people still brother responding to AlterK?

    bubii
    bubii
    10 years ago

    He is absolutly right kol hakavod to the rabbi,he is a true human being.

    commonsense99
    commonsense99
    10 years ago

    Where are all these comments on yesterday news piece about the friedmans,
    The lynch mob mindset is sickening, I think the salem witch trials are more fair then the trial a molester gets

    10 years ago

    Seicheldig , Alter G and Rebbe 123 are all complete fools who shuld be ignored. They also shouldn’t be on the treif internet to begin with! I’m fairly certain that atleast 2 of them are either molesters themselves or frequent establishments of ill repute.

    PrettyBoyFloyd
    PrettyBoyFloyd
    10 years ago

    Kol Hakavod. Finally, a Rabbi that’s not afraid to speak the the truth. The fire he’s is gonna come under will be fierce, but chazak v’emutz.

    10 years ago

    I agree with #38 . many people, including Rabbis just want to enjoy sitting on their pedestals and look down with disdain and arrogance on people who are sick and need help. Anyone can sit there and point like the Nazis did ym’sm. Real leaders are people who look for solutions not for glitzy headlines to make themselves appear more honorable and esteemed in the eyes of other people…

    Normal
    Normal
    10 years ago

    Call the police immediately and let them sort it out.

    rogergreen
    rogergreen
    10 years ago

    What’s the big deal?What chiddushim is “Rabbi Foolberber” bringing to the table?

    rebbeleiben
    rebbeleiben
    10 years ago

    I see from alot of peoples comments that they are afraid to deal with the emes. If this happened to any one of you CV”SH you would sing a different tune.

    TruthSpeaks101
    TruthSpeaks101
    10 years ago

    I was molested by an Orthodox Rabbi in our community throughout my teenage years.

    I am not the only Victim, I personally know of more, and there are many out there, still being assaulted, we need to SAVE them!
    These are our friends, classmates, families, campers, u name it-

    Coming from me, it’s like having been murdered yet still alive to witness.

    Rabbi Yair Hoffman
    Admin
    10 years ago

    Sorry to say to some of you, but Rav Stulberger is not just an ordinary Rabbi. He is a Rosh Yeshiva of extraordinary depth and knowledge. He knows both shas and lomdus, and leading Roshei Yeshiva in Eretz Yisroel have placed him in the highest of esteem.

    DOVE1
    DOVE1
    10 years ago

    How do you know the Lakewood story is true ? maybe he is innocent .
    Its or you admit even if its false and you get 10 years or plead not guilty and judge gives you 103 years

    10 years ago

    I did not read all of the comments on this page; however I would like to point out something that I find many frum Jews do not realize. When discussing bais din and the need for two kosher witnesses we always assume that if we lack witnesses the judicial process grinds to a halt. this is NOT TRUE. In the event that there are no witnesses bais din has the right (and did do this) to imprison a person that is viewed as a menace to society.
    Additionally the gemara relates a way of killing prisoners that are known to be guilty but lack the level of two kosher witnesses whereby the prisoner is feed barley and then given water (I am unclear exactly how this works) which causes his or her stomach to explode thereby killing him or her.
    These two ideas are things that are fairly obvious to anyone that studies choshen mishpat or has learned nizekin masechtas.
    I am not saying that our judicial system is fair or not and I am not saying that a bais din would want to use our court system to punish someone but there are options that exist.

    SimplyAvi
    SimplyAvi
    10 years ago

    R Stulberger was the best principal I ever had. He gave the best shmuzim; hard hitting and based on FACTS and SOURCES.
    I am very pleased we are on the same page with this issue.

    Sherree
    Sherree
    8 years ago

    Kol Hakovod Rabbi Stulberger, as always you are a mentch first and foremost and you always put the well being of children and the guidelines of the Torah first! Your article is more than well written, it is well stated and more to the point than all the ridiculous stepping around the issues statements and playing the foolish “chilul Hashem” cards.

    You have made the truth imminently clear and concise. You have spoken the words that so many wish to speak but have had their voices silenced. Thank you for you wisdom and your devotion to the K’lal.