Kiryas Joel – Young men shouted and pelted trooper cars with eggs and plastic water bottles Monday during a melee that erupted hours before an outdoor wedding that was expected to draw thousands of spectators.
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Troopers say roughly 200 young men staged a rowdy protest as workers from Orange & Rockland Utilities removed decorative lights that had been strung from poles without permission. The lights were for the wedding of a granddaughter of Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, a Satmar Hasidic leader.
Protesters blocked the company’s trucks with metal pedestrian barriers and then climbed on the trucks, troopers said. Then they used the same barriers to block trooper cars as state police tried to escort the utility workers out of Kiryas Joel.
One trooper was treated for minor injuries. No police cars were damaged.
One man was arrested and was expected to face a felony charge. His identity and the charges were not immediately available.
In the mean time Thousands are expected to fill the square in front of the Congregation Yetev Lev synagogue in Kiryas Joel at 6:30 p.m. for the wedding of Bluma Ashkenaazy, a granddaughter of Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, one of two brothers who lead the Satmar Hasidic movement. The 18-year-old bride will marry Yekisiel Teitelbaum, 19, whose family is from Brazil.
What goes around comes around..
great way to make a kidush hashem!
wow its not only in Israel with the riots. Good for them more chliah Hashem. These guys have too much time on their hands.
chillul hasham sham on u k.j.
This is such a Chillul Hashem.
However coming from the “Times Herald Record” I imagine they multiplied the facts and details tenfold. I hope so anyway.
What did they accomplish???
Zul Yeder Aheim Gein..Vus iz geshein tzi di Tekunes??
Why are the rebbes allowed to have grand wedding? Let everyone go home and only the immediate family should enjoy the festivities.
Bucherim! boys will be boys. u make me proud!
It remind me of the old times when to used to throw stones on anybody who didn’t agree 100% with their shitah its diffrent times now
What happened to this generation?
1st Yerushalaim now K.J.
Where are our leaders…?
& if the decorative lights would have created a fire??? what a sconah!! lets just think, what would have happened had the zionist oppressors ( ZAHAL) had tried to remove the illegal lights???
i just cant believe that our religeon that is being hijacked by taliban style sects, is so machmir on the little things, & yet so maykil on things like chillul hashem,
Before judging KJ remember there are two sides to each story and secondly we know that the secular media hates charedi Jews. They sell newspapers by writing tall tales, as the saying goes, blood sells…
Kj It gos bout ways
If this is true, it is a major chillul Hashem with serious consequences. Whoever is responsible must be held accountable.
This is the Hassidic sect that talks about yodayim yedei eisav??
I don’t understand what the melee was all about? This is Ahavas Yisroel?
Wo! This little incident which was of course provoked by some jealous imfarginner utility workers will give plenty of stuff for l the anti satmer, anti chareidy, anti ultras, anti anything frum that love to blog and vent their hatred on this sìte…
Why are they climbing on utility poles – there’s 2400 to 7200 volts up there (and that’s assuming it’s in the residential grid)! Apart from the danger of falling they’re in serious danger of electrocution – unless you’re a trained linesman you should stay on the ground and away from power lines.
listen folks i was there. the truth is, that buchrim r buchrim and they r entiltled for mistakes. thelets not make it a biger chilul hashem. it was a giant mistake and i am sure it wont happen anymore. and those who got arested and will spend the chasuneh night in jail will for sure give the lesson for all of thier friends.
All you Satmar bashers:
Remember, that Satmar is the very largest Jewish group in the world.
This means that every once in awhile, a few of their tens of thousands of bochurim, or young men, will mess up and do something stupid.
Then you all jump on Satmar.
When you study the numbers and statistics, you will see they are some of the very best behaved people on the globe.
And…. those Satmar Chossids are there for YOU, as they are there for ANY JEW who needs help. There is no Jewish group ready to dig into their not to deep pockets, spending their last dime to help strangers. And, they ask nothing in return. They don’t ask you to sit down and learn what their rebbe said. They don’t try to convert you to Satmar. They don’t even try to make you religious.
If you ask for help, they are there for you. No strings attached.
And they are the most bashed and maligned group in the Jewish community…. All because their views on the State of Israel don’t match what we expect or want them to be. Why should Satmar not have the right to their opinions without being hated for them….. no group…. and I repeat: NO Jewish Group shows more love for fellow Jews than Satmar does.
Yes, they helped me. I was not religious at all. I am still only shomer shabbos about 1/2 the time. But when they found out my wife needed surgery and I did not have the money for it, they immediately raised the money… in less than 12 hours…
They paid the bill completely, and did not even give me an envelope to return the money. And, they did this eagerly, and with love. They treated me, a man whose kippa was in his pocket, as if I were a well-respected rov.
They spoke to me with respect, and treated me with respect.
I will always respect them.
how hard is it to understand the concept of asking the town council or whatever for permission and doing things according to the rules? these utility men are not anti-semites out to get us, they had a legit complaint. if the bochrim would have just asked the town council or zoning board, or whoever deals with this, maybe they would have gotten permission, and this whole chillul hashem could have been avoided.
and if they got a no? then who cares? last i checked, a yiddeshe wedding, including a rebbe’s grandchildren, requires a couple, eidim, a mesader kiddushin, a chuppah, a minyan, kesuba, ring, and a glass of wine. why did they have to make a big deal over these lights? it’s not like anyone was trying to stand in the way of anything remotely pertaining to conducting a proper yiddishe wedding.
while i am sure this media report is somewhat exaggerated, it is not made up out of thin air; the fact is, some guys stupidly started a riot over nothing (not that we should riot even over a big deal- there are more mature ways to deal with such matters). is the wedding still going to happen as planned, with thousands of chasidim in attendance dancing the streets, or will the cops now have to stand around and be ready force everyone to go home if it gets too “crazy”, and then actually mess with our rituals? thanks to these thugs who have a) fabricated charges of anti-semitism and b) acted like hooligans, now there may be real anti-semitism, as well as reasons for the goyim of the area to keep a closer watch on, and possibly interfere with, the community whenever a ritual, such as a chasunah, or hachnassas sefer torah, or simchas torah etc takes place in the streets.
wow come out all you people who hate satmer & start your frum way to act up agents them its for sure not a kidush hashem what when on there but YOU dont mind the chilel hashem cuz i dont think your 100 % like the shilchon oruch wants you should be & even you are but when you father or rosh yeshive or child or friend makes a chilel hashem ul find already 1000 ways to say its not SO bad but when it comes to satmer lets bark im not a satmere but i cant take this fake funny fraud way you people think & write
A chillul Hashem was caused in honor of a chosson/kallah. This is not a Simcha B’Meono.
the other side of the story:
I was there and this is what I tell you guys.
First, there is an extra 0 in the report, there were only 20 boys not 200
1 bottle flew on a car from a young shtinker, the police didn’t even see anything, it was a incident that many people walked by and didn’t even stop to see what’s going on. some kids on the block were standing like they come to every emergency call.
it can happen anytime you get teen agers upset. not that it’s right but to make a news story out of it, give me a break
this comes from someone who is really jealous on this happy day. we all saw him and know who it is, he went to make pictures of police standing next to a car, sent it to all news blogs and there you go. I can all assure you that Der Yid will write a 6 page article this week about 25 troopers coverd with eggs under the direct order of the ruv of kj etc etc.
to call this a mini riot with trowing eggs is a huge overstatement. so all of you KJ haters, get bak to work or whatever you have or dont have to acomplish.
anyway, I see tons of people walking to the Chupa I don’t want to be late.
Each wedding in Satmar is exciting, someone who was never there can never understand the joy and happiness we are filled with on such a day.
a generation of ignorant savages,here and in jerusalem
Why is everyone so quick to say “stop bashing satmar”? Stop being paranoid! We’re outraged because these are frumme yidden who make a shande!
Where is “Hisgaris Beimas” is it said only against others . in our own shtetel you can do whatever you want. Chilul Hashem is such a great Aveira that we don’t do any good by down playing it. Erev yom Kippur we will be melamed zechis. For now we all in Kiryas Yoel have to denounce this with the utmost force. They did not stop you from being a yid. it was only a few lights up and down. Are we allowed to act in such a manner.
Isn’t it stealing when you hook-up lights to utility pole?
Shame on these so-called ‘frummer’yidden. The Torah guides us,NOT our emotions and desires. Is the Yetzer Horah becoming a Satmar Chossid? Laws must be obeyed! Permission must be requested and granted before doing unauthorized activities. They do not own this state or country.All they do is cause grief to the Jewish people by making a chillul Hashem. They should grow up before getting married. They don’t work and are spoiled by rich parents who do not discipline their children. Everything is theirs.Kochi v’otzem yodi rules .Why wear the peyos and chassidic outfits if you can’t act like b’nei Torah?
why should jews get permission from goyim like the electric company to string lights on their telephone poles and electric grid….. next thing you know the local towns will actually ask for zoning variances and maybe heaven forbid building permits to ensure the quality of the finished building product…ofcourse those antisemites might even start enforcing other laws (like noise/sanitation/fire safety codes etc…)that are only meant for the goyim…keep up the good work guys…
How come we are always making excuses for rioting chasidim? Always another side of the story. How about behaving and no story at all.
intresting in the city evrey little rebbele puts lights on the light poles and nither the city nor con ed removes them o&r didnt come on their own either. somebody who lives in k.j. (remember 60 minutes ?) didnt like that there is lights hanging so he decided to make a little labedig and call o&r
When will everyone learn that you can’t have a good time at the expense of others? Playing with electrical lines is literally playing with fire. Besides, teenage boys should be in Yeshiva learning. Enough time gets wasted in the name of holiness when there is a Rebbeshe chasuna. Doesn’t anyone have any control in Kiryas Yoel? Nobody noticed their absence from class?
Boichirim are boochirim they don’t get it we were all the same we did not think for one second what it means Yes its a big chilul hashem but all you guys don’t care when its a chilul hashem when a rabbi got arrested lat week in kansas city trying to help astudent who got a ticket then you all tried to minimize it come on guys give me a break it does not bother you hashems kooved Satmar is the one that bothers you listen to me when you need help satmar is there when there is a big accident on the thruway even if its goyim who is giving out thousands of gallons of water to the drvers stuck in the traffic? You got it satmar yingeliet so just cut it now again its a chilul hashem but don’t jump you guys don’t mean hashems kooved I wish you would mean it
Bottom line, it was a beautiful חופה , so very nice, אשרי עין ראתה כל אלו
Tousends of people all around the chupa, I saw the Sqvere Rebbe, Tzalimer Ruv, Toldos avrum Yitzchuk and plenty more.
afterwerds the Rebbe gave his emotional blessing, young and old danced for a long time. everyone was so happy. that’s all I care.
I have 1 question to ask is anyone that bashes and cries here aware that theese lights have been used in KJ for the last 20 years by every wedding etc. And O&R never had a problem with it till someone had to call them today and to say something, so please before u cry just listen to a diff. Side of the coin. And don’t be “a self hating jew”
Don’t you realize that as frum Jews we have to set an example and NOT behave like HOOLIGANS and HOODLUMS. Every action has to be considered what the ramifications will be. You dress in satin ( bekishe) and fur (shtreimel) behave like ROYALTY! That’s what frum Jews are SUPPOSED to be. Being arrested is appropriate for LOWLIFES! What a Chilul Hashem
kids are kids, I was a bochur and did crazy things too, but where are the RY’s of Satmar, the rosh hakohols, the teachers, any mature adults? These kids could have CH”V caused a major electrical fire, and R”L it should break out when thousands of people are crammed together by a simcha vidal.
This was all planed as moshe witrieol was no ware to be found
the state troopers should have brought some patty wagons and arrested all of the protesters and O&R should have turned off the power to those poles
now you know why the heliger vilna gaon was against chassidus.
What would the bal shem tov say when he sees that chasidus became a gang, full of hater, fights, שנאת חינם,
I’m sure that when the bal shem tov grandson Rabbi Nachman from breslov got married, there were no lights, and not even signs or people walking with candles, not even parentches, not a choir of 25 chasidim.
What happened to our generation that chasidus means parenches, which kind of hat u are wearing,giving kugel etc.
What happened to all the kiruv levavus that the bal shem tov and his followers did.
what happened to the פשוטי עם that the bal shem tov said that they are the holiest of klall yisorel, 2day if u have money u are accepted, if u learn your a lamdan, what’s with the bus drivers and with plumbers, why don’t I see a picture of them in kol haolom kilo? Because they don’t have a last name as Grunwald, Horowitz, Teitelbaum, Tewerski?
Why do I see that the only ones that sit on the head table of all the rebisha tishen with out a beard are people with money?
what about ahavs yisroel, what about תיקון חצות, does any of u guys or u Rabbi’s do תיקון חצות ? Do any of u talk to hashem in middle of the day in Yiddish, English, Spanish (what ever language u speak) besides the daily davening (which u do as routine and u have in mind your business).
Does your Rabbi take care of your kids that go off the derech, or that can use some chizuk? Or is he just there u should clap for him and make him כבוד when the photographer of kol haolom kilo arrives.
Why does a Rabbi have to have a last name like Teitelbaum, Tewerski, Horowitz, Grunwald, etc
Why don’t we see a Rabbi named Schwartz, Goldstein, Wertzberger? Rabbi Shaya’la kerstirer wasn’t a son of a Rabbi and he became one, because he was holy,why today u have to have a last name, is this like a mafia gang, u have to be apart of the family in order to work for the family?
How low can we go?
Non of u are chasidim, u are a sect that dresses as chasidim, u call urselfs chasidim and u make בושות for Chasidus, aren’t u guys afraid of such holy people?
The issue here is NOT Satmar, NOT the simcha, and NOT KJ.
The issue is that someone started playing around high voltage / high current installations. Let’s say there are 20 houses on that leg of the distribution grid. Keeping the math simple (I’ll eliminate root mean square RMS and peak to peak AC for the people who don’t understand), if each house has 100 amp service at 240 volts, that means 10 amps at 2400 volts per house, or 200 amps at 2400 volts for that branch. That’s a lot, and I mean a LOT of electricity.
Look, everyone’s entitled to act foolish once in a while, and I’m not going to give a bochur a black eye for having a bit of fun at a simcha. This wasn’t fun. This was stupidity of the highest order. A fire could have started or people could be killed (C”V).
If anyone is thinking about hanging something on a utility pole, DON’T. You may lose your life, or endanger someone else’s. Don’t blame the cops or the utility – this is a matter of public safety for everyone.
does this only happen insatmar
what’s the name of the bucher and his mother to say thilim that he shoud be released from jail
Mazel Tov to most of the blogers here you finnally have a oprutunity when the satmar kj sliped and you all got alive this is nothing more then SINAS AM HOORETZ LTALMID CHUCHEM I can tell that most if not all yidishe comunities can not compare to kj not with chesed in this little comunity their is evrey chesed org. U can think of so MAZEL TOV to u that they made your day
the rebbes bow to Arafat and Ahmadijenabad and the chasidim have become Palestinians.
(Reply to 83) I wrote 68, I’m not talking in particular about todays story, I’m talking about chasidus in general.
Look what chasidus became in this days, tell me that I’m wrong
what’s with all of you? as the saying goes ” with friends like these….” we can say ” with yiden like these who needs anti-semites?” and then you turn around and say ” hashem send us moshiach?” why should he when this is how we behave? one yid towards the other? and why should the goyim be any different towards us if we talk like this? if you really want moshiach to come, show hashem by behaving the way we’re supposed to
What’s a difference whoever wasn’t there missed a beautiful wedding. There was no room in the Beis medrish. The Rebbe’s Mitzvah tantz was gorgeous. And all jealous cats knock your head in the nearest wall to get your senses back.
why this RAGE all the time?