Sioux Falls, SD – Rubashkin Jurors Are Still Out

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    Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin in Sioux Falls in in front of A shopping center. Photo: COLlive.com Sioux Falls, SD – Jurors continued to weigh the financial fraud case against Sholom Rubashkin on Tuesday but did not reach a verdict for the former eastern Iowa slaughterhouse executive.

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    The five-man, seven-woman pool spent the day behind closed doors at the federal courthouse in downtown Sioux Falls. The evidence before them includes testimony from 64 prosecution and defense witnesses and reams of financial records from the now-defunct Agriprocessors Inc. in Postville.

    They resume deliberations Thursday after today’s Veterans Day holiday.


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    nuchem
    nuchem
    14 years ago

    help is on way – onejust not know from where it will.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    After yesterday’s story about even another scam involving a yiddishe banker we should all be saying tehillim that hashem will once and for all cleanse us of this cancer within the kehillah, punish those who violate the laws of America or EY and restore the reputation of yiddin as the most ethical people on earth. What has happened over the past year with Madoff, Rubashkin, Dwek, the NJ Rabbonim, Rothstein, etc. is still beyond belief and will take generations for the damage to be healed. There will be a backlash against yiddin since all of this simply feeds the stereotype already there that all yiddin are crooks and ganovim. Hopefully, the conviction of those who are guility and exoneration of those who are truly innocent will help heal some of the damage.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Shir ha ma’alot asa einai…

    They will Aquit
    They will Aquit
    14 years ago

    They have a big problem with the whole Postville raid and what that means to AMERICA
    our freedoms are slowly SLIPPING away ! Today its Rubashkin tomorrow its your neighbor or you! Hope they send a message loud and clear yes we still have a constitution and Its not just a piece of paper !
    We must stop the slow march to COMMUNISM .Now…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Hashem should help him. he is a tzaddik . this man has done so much chesed for klal yisroel.

    zissy Solomon
    zissy Solomon
    14 years ago

    My hope and prayers are for Reb Sholem Mordechai, he should be found not guilty. So he may move on he’s life and continue to do what he does best, tzedukah vchesed.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    To be quite honest with you i’m actually shocked that they haven’t found him guilty yet based on the evidence the prosecuition presented and the pathetic defense team he mustered.

    Hopefully that’s a good sign for him. We gotta hope for the best.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    kivon deidche idche…………….

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    #3, it’s not a SLOW march to Communism. It’s a runaway train.

    R' Mendy (talmid chuchum"
    R' Mendy (talmid chuchum"
    14 years ago

    It is almost Rosh Chodesh Kislev. Yaad Chassidim (trans: all-yiddin) al ho-elyoinah.
    Riboinoi Shel Oilam… Help us out in this golus!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Sholom Mordche Ben Rivka?

    Bear Stearns !!
    Bear Stearns !!
    14 years ago

    1.The two main Managers of Bear Stearns Were acquitted yesterday on all counts of fraud and knowingly defrauding us all!! THIS WAS YESTERDAY!!
    2.The NASA Astronaut woman with evidence premeditated MURDER including weapons on her body and wearing a diaper while waiting !
    Was given 12 months PROBATION …YESTERDAY …search it out.
    That’s why the good jurors are deliberating !!

    Lets hope they see through this anti religious raid for what it really was: a lynching
    on good Well Liked and caring person!
    Remember When congress is bleeding with sympathy for or the illegals and wants to give them every right who is to blame for following the leaders ..Wink Wink hint and hiring them? Why the raid??

    Floyd  of Postville
    Floyd of Postville
    14 years ago

    Good Man ! they dont make them like that any more !
    Hope they acquit him!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Our US Government is just looking to justify their ruining the economy in that rejoin —- us in is best

    a guy
    a guy
    14 years ago

    tell the whole story of this picture!!!!!

    While the jury is out deliberationg on his life mamash, he went out with some bochurim to have a sefer tanya printed in suix falls in keeping with the rebbe zy”a’s request of many years ago.

    When i read that story on another news site i cried!!!! Mi K’amcha Yosroel?!?!? The man’s life is on the line and he goes out to bring the light of torah to tha place al pi horoas rabo!

    Wow!!!

    Twin cities 200 Mexicans
    Twin cities 200 Mexicans
    14 years ago

    This just in today ,ABM a janitorial Company in Minnesota Twin Cities
    Had illegals working for YEARS!! over 96 percent were Undocumented !
    DID THEY GET INTO TROUBLE ? NO
    Was THERE A RAID Like in Postville?
    NO!! Any Charges filed ?
    NO CHARGES! none at all!
    WAKE UP ! Foolish people.. Tomorow its YOUR Place they will go after you!
    Why is Agriprocessers any different Then ABM Janitorial ?

    Immigrations and Customs Enforcement also won’t comment. Tim Counts, spokesman for the Bloomington Office, wrote via e-mail: “For operational security reasons, we don’t discuss ongoing enforcement activity, including confirming or denying that we are looking at a particular person or entity.”

    Counts says ABM has not been fined.

    “It’s a sticky legal issue of, ‘What did you know and when did you know it?'” said Counts.
    Mark Cangemi is a retired ICE official. He used to do these kinds of workplace investigations and he’s practiced immigration law.
    Cangemi can’t talk about this specific case or the employer involved, but Cangemi says the patterns in these workplace investigations are always the same.
    “Could be a record-keeping error, civil or criminal in nature. We just don’t know,” he said.

    ShatzMatz
    ShatzMatz
    14 years ago

    The whole issue of the bank fraud came up after he was unable to meet his financial obligations after he was attacked from multiple flanks, by PETA, the unions, the reform movement, Postville priests and finally ICE. If he were allowed to continue his business and the feds would have dealt with him differently on the immigration issue, in all likelihood he would have met his financial obligations and all would have been well.

    So, yes, I do think that the motives behind the raid are relevant, and I think that the jury should take it into consideration.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    let’s pray for a hung jury

    Loshon Hora
    Loshon Hora
    14 years ago

    Let us hope & daven that the jury come to the same conclusion as the Bear Sterns case,NOT guilty that the government chose a scape goat for their own problems dealing with Wall Street.
    Here too.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I only wish we could know from which community these nasty commenters are coming from.
    The jury of twelve non-jewish people are deliberating, yet people who claim to be frum already made up their mind, despite not being there – despite not hearing the evidence in detail, etc.
    You are embarassed to be frum? Don’t be embarassed, you are not frum and barely jewish.
    Character DOES matter, and it should – at least you would want your character to matter if it was YOU on trial. You want something to be embarassed about? Be embarassed that you do not posses the intellectual capacity to see what is really going on over here – that he is being prosecuted for mismanagement which would in all probability passed completely unnoticed until the government came and forced bankruptcy, etc.
    Here is hoping that the rachmanus that should be by the yidden commenting here should be found by the jury.

    Dag
    Dag
    14 years ago

    Who knew that blood libels included Juries that deliberate for days! Changes your perspective on European Jewish history!

    Shaul in Monsey
    Shaul in Monsey
    14 years ago

    Why hasn’t anyone commented on the fact as reported here that SMR blamed Benasson for the fraud. Why is it okay for a yid on trial to blame another yid?

    Yankee
    Yankee
    14 years ago

    May HASHEM help the Rubashkins to get cleared from this case that they should go on to continue with their Chesed and Tzedokoh

    reb chaim
    reb chaim
    14 years ago

    It’s very easy to be a baal tzidacha when you’re a ganof. If you steal a million, you can be a communal hero just .by donating ma’aser $100.000.

    me
    me
    14 years ago

    I do not know who I am responding to. There are too many of you. We must always pray for a brother!! I am of the opinion that SMR had borrowed the money with the intent to save the business and eventually pay back the entire loan. I may be wrong, but hevey don eis coll adam lekav zecus. It happened to be that the company defaulted on him. He may have exaggerated the company’s assets for that, but many would do the same
    As far as the illegal aliens he was not heavily involved in the hiring . He may have suspected something and maybe should have spoke out. But listen the man is taking the blame for a whole lot of other people.

    He was a good may- not stealling from the rich giving to the poor

    NINDY ONE COMMENTS!!!
    NINDY ONE COMMENTS!!!
    14 years ago

    Wow! Now let’s all rake a deep breath, stop the Loshon Hara, and open pur Tehillims. Kol Yisroel Araivam Zeh L’Zeh

    House of cards
    House of cards
    14 years ago

    Reply to #90 :
    “As far as the illegal aliens he was not heavily involved in the hiring . He may have suspected something and maybe should have spoke out. But listen the man is taking the blame for a whole lot of other people.”

    The first employees at Agriprocessor were some illegals brought to Postville from New York by Aron Rubashkin. The Rubashkin’s originally recruited from Mexico but found that Guatemalans were more submissive and hard workers, so they directed their recruiting efforts away from Mexico and toward Guatemala. My G-d, there were ads in newspapers advertising “good jobs await you in at a meat packing plant in Postville.” Do you seriously think that In a small closely held, family business Rubashkin didn’t know anything about this?????
    As far as SMR taking the fall for his father, brother, sister and other family members. That is precisely what is happening. SMR is trying to protect others – including a lot of guilty hashgocha agencies. There is powerful wind blowing through the kosher velt, and the landscape will change radically in the not too distant future. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Yaakov
    Yaakov
    14 years ago

    Yidden,
    We are standing at a pivotal time in history. Now is not the time to squabble over semantics. It is time that we stand shoulder to shoulder holding hands and scream out in unison to the Abishter to help our brother in his moment of crisis.

    Free Sholom Rubashkin the Baal Tzedekah Now.

    Goyisher hearts
    Goyisher hearts
    14 years ago

    I’m shocked to hear some of these VIN posts ,The essence of Klal yisruel Has been since Dovid Hamelech ,Rachmonim ,Bayshonm ,Gomlay chesodim
    Please search the bottommost recesses of Pitch black hearts for a stray ounce of kindness and consideration for a poor victim of an organized hate-fest

    Remember just today Bearstearns manager who who stole for years from everybody were acquitted also AMD janitorial in Twin cities (Google it)had 1,200 illegal workers and were not even fined !! I repeat nothing no fine No attack no RAID one thousand two hundred undocumented NO arrest

    Its FAR worse for a person to have such HATE in his heart then to make a mistake in the bank papers ! So if these black hearts want him to go to jail then they Condemn themselves and THIS is th TRUE reason Moshiach isnt here and when he comes these Black hearted Haters will not be welcomed!

    Yaakov
    Yaakov
    14 years ago

    Response to 100
    Yes, you chose the wrong nation… keep watching MTV and listening to greek philosphy lectures at your local university. I think you should look up some history about how the government can make up any kind of non sense and wreck someone’s life. Let’s just hope that you don’t fall into their cross hairs and have people screaming about “evil” to you.

    It is time that we stand up for each other in unity rather then pointing fingers. Let’s all Pray that HaShem Yisborach allows SMR a quick and complete victory.

    House of cards
    House of cards
    14 years ago

    #97 says:
    “Basically, Shaul in Monsey is not one tenth the man that Mr. Rubashkin is,”

    Thank G-d!!!
    If he was, we be facing another and even bigger scandal!

    To all those who are saying we shouldn’t be discussing this but rather we should be saying Tehillim for a fellow Jew: We need to discuss this and we need to bring some fresh air into the kehillah. Otherwise why are we saying tehillim, what is the need? If we don’t bring this out in the open, what lesson are we teaching our children? Is this what it means to be a Jew? Is this what G-d wants? To be a crook and a thief? Even a man who gives tzedaka and studies Torah can still be a crook and tzedaka and Torah are meaningless if you engage in such behavior.

    rov gonvi yisroel
    rov gonvi yisroel
    14 years ago

    Rov gonvi yisroel The G emorah states
    It seems this is an old Malady by the ysroel fulk!
    Shaul in Monsey are you really a Yid!! check your lineage way back .
    Many posters on VIN may as well throw off their yiddiskeit and begin to be true with themselves and maybe convert .
    Al pi torah there is no jail term for money matters , You just pay up.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    If SMR will be found not guilty, that will be a clear miracle, to me it will mean Rebbe himself pulled him out of a trouble