New York – Anisakis, a roundworm, typically does not grow to more than two centimeters long and about the width of a human hair, but the parasite may cause big problems for kosher fish lovers.
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Some charedi rabbonim in Israel as well as a number of their American counterparts have ruled that the fish that the parasites inhabit, including wild salmon, flounder and halibut, can no longer be considered kosher. The Orthodox Union, the largest kashrut certifying organization in the world, does not believe such a ban is required or even necessary.
At a meeting in a Brooklyn shul on Feb. 18th, Rabbi Moshe Karp (no kidding) of Modi’in Illit in Israel forcefully expressed his position in Yiddish: on account of the roundworm, he believes that a ban on salmon and the other fish is an absolute necessity, according to rabbis who attended the meeting.
He is raising a variety of objections that would seem to contradict the Gemorah, which explicitly states that worms found in fish do not make a fish treif (non-kosher) and even allows such worms to be eaten. Karp said that he believes that the roundworm is a different parasite than the one mentioned in the Talmud; that pollution has caused the roundworm to mutate and grow larger; and that the anisakis has changed its instinctual behavior and now matures before it enters the body of the fish.
The meeting, which was accessible to the public via teleconferencing, has left many kashrut experts fishing for an appropriate response.
i think that theese rabbis head is nonkosher all of a sudden they wake up and make new rules or discover new hardships they all need therapy they should be honest people first with themselfs and go after pedophiles in their midst what hutzpa they have
Something smells fishy, Purim prank ? Rabonim with to much time on their hands ?
here we go again…
This guy is fishing for trouble. He sounds bored to me.
I am afraid the dealers will get a ikel from a bis din against any one voicing negative opnion
Here we go again….
Just use gefilte fish
Good thing I don’t follow chareidi rebbeim!
If it enters the fish mature – trief
another person fishing for a chumra what chutzpah and ignorance of fish farming
There goes my lox sandwich my herring my pickled salmon
The Zohar in Bereishis says that HKB”H created creatures that permeate the beriyah. They are too small to be seen with the naked eye, for if we were to see them everywhere, we would go meshugah.
Looks like the Zohar was right…
Now, where is that salmon steak?
That would be bad news for the kosher sushi lovers.
I’m waiting to hear what Rabbis Bass and Goldfisher have to poskin.
I think the all these chicken and meat scandals, and now this fish scandal, is a conspiracy by PETA to turn us into vegetarians.
“typically does not grow to more than two centimeters long and about the width of a human hair”
A human hair from India, Europe? Perhaps a synthetic hair? Indian hair would pose a much bigger problem, because now we would be eating something which contains something that we can’t see – and resembles something that may have been connected to avodah zora! They should ban it for maar’is ayin.
Is this related to the things they couldn’t see in the strawberries and the water? Maybe a cousin?
Probably those ‘rabbis’ just couldn’t bear the smell of fish, or their wives do not know how to follow recipes.
Just some points for those bored Rabbis to ponder when they are done taking care of the important issues in the community.
Where is the talking fish when we need him?
Sounds fishey to me
This story sounds like a lot of carp
cant this roundworm be washed off?
Wait I know how this meeting ended, the person who wants the fish banned then said,
Therefore we would like to let the oilam know that every fish is treif except for this new frozen fish line owned by my son in law! That’s the only one kosher!
Please.
Not again.
Enough with the Bney-Brak manufactured craziness. Really. We’ve had enough. We understand that you don’t have jobs or any other meaningful responsibilities in life and therefore find your meaning in life through driving yourselves and us crazy. But we’ve had it.
From the lettuce to broccoli to strawberries to water to sheitels to internet to black stockings to smiling. Enough is genug.
Get a job, get a life, find something else to do with your lives, we don’t really care. Just please leave us alone and stop driving us all mad.
how do people have the chutzpa to make fun of Rabbonim
that’s what happend
in time of mordechai
he sayd don’t go to Achashveirosh
seuda and VIN blogers
made CHOZIK
SHAME ON U
All you ppl are destined to gihenom!!!! There ARE worms in the fish, we’ve SEEN them!!! How can you deny that?!?! There may be a machlokes whether that is problematic but to scorn?!?!?!!?!?!?
Nothing fishy. Some yidden simply treasure their neshamah. If you don’t appreciate these Rabbi’s good intention.. swim on!
Just another chapter in the old Karp v. Salmon rivality…
Rabbosai: remember Mazal Adar Dagim.
The mazal of the month of Adar is fish.
The fish sure are going to have a good mazal this month of Adar.
If salmon is banned; then…
No more sushi
No more lox
No more salmon
The fish are kvelling.
Areechas Yomim.
A freilichan Purim to all.
Enjoy the snow :-).
Why don’t they ask the fish? The fish has spoken before.
Well, without most berries, leafy green vegetables and now cold water fish, there won’t be much left to eat that’s actually healthy.
My doctor told me NO meat No fat NO sugar Only fish..What do i do now.? Need to eat white fish or shmaltz herring all week..?
i heard a rav in flatbush who is part of kehila kashrus told his mispallelim this weeks ago yet stores with the kehilla hashgacha still sell salmon. Something fishy in the hasgacha business?
its nothing new
why are people making fun if they don’t know
R Shmuel Wosner holds Asur
R Yechezkel Roth holds Mutor
The rav should be thanked for his concern for mitzvos.Only halachic responses make any sense.Attacks on the rabbi just show the eople who attack are not to worried about keeping the torah.
I just can’t believe my eyes, famous Rabbonim from Israel and abroad determined that it is indeed a problem with kashrus, here come a few internet bloggers with “0” knowledge of kashrus or bugs, and they mock the choshuva rabbonim.
You should all do teshuva.
BTW, I stopped eating WILD salmon (only the wild has the problem, not baby or farm raised) a year ago when I saw myself those ugly worms in a slice of wild salmon.. yuk..
Let me tell you one thing. After reading all the comments I really couldn’t stop Laughing! All you VIN Bloggers have a “great” sense of humor! I love it for a change! So Rabbi Fish keep on karping! I mean Rabbi Karp,keep on fishing!……….
in megila
mayhodu vead Fish
ha haaaaaaaaaaa
I know one thing, when a serious rabbinical authority decides on a kashrut issue, I listen to them!
And this is the case now, so all leitzim and lobster lovers think twice before bad mouthing on rabbinical advice.
But surely by the same logic, the consumption of living creatures is assur, and we know today that all plants and animals, even if washed very heavily and even if cooked [if perhaps not while in the process of being cooked], will have some living bacteria on them.
How can we be able to eat anything?
one rabbi i know told me the only fish that is 100% clean of worms is brook trout and that is all he eats, but he is a big machmir who barely eats anything (the only fleish he eats is duck)
anyway, like it says above, farm raised salmon is ok so no need to worry about not having anymore salmon
First there’s a problem w the meat now the fish?? What’s left ? I’m getting hungry
Purim Torah!
The whole point of levaysan is that everyone can eat it, since its fish and not meat. Now what they serve at the seudah of Mashiach?
As long as the fish is properly cooked or grilled and the worms or parasistes are killed from the heat in the cooking process there is no shaiylah on kashrus.
Yes, children, frumkeit is a disease.
Oy vey, let’s hope they don’t find bugs in the air…
The rabbi only eats duck,LOL,no wonder he eats very little. That stuff is expensive. By the way and as my uncle owns a fish processing plant that processes salmon. Farmed salmon might be more kosher but its a lot more unhealthy. For one they inject coloring into it that is artificial and because they swing around in each others poop there is a lot of bacteria in there that is not so healty (except for the ones farmed at sea) but thanks for the good laugh some post are tops.
we object to: wild salmon, Indian hair wigs, safek Indian hair wigs,Shabbos elevators, braces in the mikvah,Lipa, Rabbi Slifkin’s s’forim, crocs on Yom Kippur,unfiltered water, strawberries,Rubashkins, etc. We are OK with the cop killer from Florida, Rabbi Tropper (Harav Hagaon, of course) pedophiles bchol asar ve-asar,and all other deviant forms of human behavior. So much for emunas chachomim…..
What are the Rabunim going to eat at the Chasunos???
By the way, this worm starts it’s life cycle in the intestines of a mammal (sea lion or dolphin), and is extracted with it’s feces. It’s eaten by the crab, and the crab is eaten by a larger fish, untill it’s eaten by the salmon. When a mammal eats the fish with the worm, the cycle starts again. Now go eat it!
There is nobody bigger in halacha and kashrus then Harav Hagoen Rav Belsky Shlita, and if he says its not a problem, its a non issue.
If you remember, R’B didn’t buy the whole shaitel garbage, nor did he buy the bugs in the water issue.
Before some one bans food he must come to a bis din and prove it a kashrus problem