Jerusalem – A four-meter-tall statue of King David that stands outside of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion may be moved following intense Haredi opposition.
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The statue, which features the king holding a harp and draped modestly in fabric, was donated by the St. Nicholas Church and had passed all of the necessary steps of approval before it was erected, Ynet reported.
Six months ago, Haredim were caught slathering red paint on the statue, which took five sanitation workers to clean.
The matter was mostly forgotten until ultra-Orthodox city council members, including Deputy Mayor Yitzhak Ze’ev Pindrus, announced they were asking to move the statue to a different place on Mount Zion farther from the tomb, or a public park. Some opposition members are worried that honoring this demand will lead to a host of other requests to move statues in the capital.
What is there about this statue (which as the article indicates is not in any way lewd or suggestive even to the most dysfunctional chareidi mind) that they object to. Is Deputy Mayor Pindrech such a wimp that he cannot stand up to these mindless fanatics who will ultimately want to move us back to the stone ages?
Lo. Sase L’chu Pesel
It is well known that King David is actually NOT buried there!
they do it to shuls and we all complain. it seems as if we earned it
Religious tolerance is ALWAYS a one way street. Just like Europeans have to bend their backs to accommodate radical Muslims so too majority of Israelis are forced to constantly bend their backs for Charedim.
They don’t teach history and arts in yeshivos besides the “Midrash Says” so it is no surprise that just like Afghans Charedim vandalize statues that belong to other cultures or religions.. It is very dangerous for Israel to acquiesce to every demand of Charedim. They will start desecrating, vandalizing and destroying other statues and historical valuables that they don’t like. Charedim politics is analogous to goats leading sheep. A goat makes a noise and the sheep responds. Before the issue was raised by their politicians non of the Charedim cared because they didn’t even know what the statue was about.
It will soon look like the Taliban is in control. The Hareidim should be thankful to G-d that the Chilonim are in power, and do all the necessary sins for them in order to run such a beautiful country.
Ging david himself wouldn’t approve of this statue either, don’t forget, he was ‘hareidi’ too. Statues are assur.
Music and concerts have been banned, protests turn violent, everything anyone does is an excuse to get offended and then cry racism, others must change to meet our preferences, women get sent to the back of the bus or face being beaten … wow, all we need are burqas and a few beheadings and the transformation from Judaism to Islam will be complete.
Moshe Rabbeinu, the neviim, and even Dovid HaMelech himself, none would even recognize the farce that masquerades as yiddishkeit these days!
There are great sculptures and statutes in all the museums in EY and all over the country. There are paintings of great rabbonim and gadolim hanging in hanging in Chareidi mosdos. What is the difference between a painting or a statute. Both are representations. The issur says “lo saaseh lacha pesel VACHOL TAMUNAH!!! These rabbonim who raise this condernc are a joke.
WHOAA YOU ALL JUST BLEW IT WITH ME! lets keep everything straight. The charedi people the same equal rights as all of you! NOW, Lets not forget that in our fields, we have rights as to what to allow and what to “protest”. Same goes for the chasids, religious monuments and burials are directly under their influence, for they are the ones following these religious customs, and therefore more their representatives then all you self hating jews. imagine, in rome in the cathedral, some chiloni decides to erect a present from the chief rabbi of israel. a big magen david, sculpture of moshe rabeinu. Without any double standards, you would have the right to criticize anything the vatican says, even though they find it offensive. (the fact that you dont shows only how far you are from your roots). they might sound stupid and naive in your mind, however that’s only in your OPINION! same if they think same about you, it’s only their opinion. just like you hate the feeling of being looked down at, they hate it too. They are the representatives of judaism more then the chilonim crowd. and so, if they claim jewish custom, halacha forbids woman praying
the kosel your naive opion is irrelevant.
#8 nothing more than an opinion.
you would make a great suttun
rabbi benyamin mendolshon z”tl of moshav komemiyote told me a pesel or temuna which is made to worship is the issure.the chozon eish z”tzl said of rabbi mendolshon that he was one of the five biggest poskim b’aretz.there however fanatics who have nothing serious on there minds so they look under the earth to find something to bitch about.
#7
Dovid HaMelech was NOT charedi! Charedism is a NEW phenomenon within our history, and is equally as far from true Torah beliefs as is reform. Go study Nach for a little while and get back to me…
By the way, the same issur of having a human statue goes on the faces of lions, which Shlomo HaMelech had on his throne! They didn’t have such a concept, and Jews throughout the ages didn’t either.
It has been donated by christians.
#15 . So, it would be fine if only a Jewish organization donated it? Wait which organization. Were they ehrliche yidden? Who says they were ehrliche yidden? My rebbe is smarter and more frum than yours. If the Moshiach showed up half the frum Jews would stay in Brooklyn because their rebbe would be waiting for the “real” moshiach.
#15 ,
The Gemara discusses the problem of accepting monetary donations from non-Jews, but that is not applicable in this case.
This case is no different than the decorations that have been given by non Jewish leaders to our holy places since time immemorial, including the Beis HaMikdash itself.
The fact that they are Christians is also of no consequence, since present day Christianity isn’t idol worship.