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Jerusalem - Man Accused Of Spitting At 'Immodest' Women; Family Claims It Is Simply Neighborhood Quarrel

Published on: June 4, 2012 01:27 PM
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Jerusalem - A 22-year-old young man from Jerusalem was arrested on Monday for assault and intimidation after he allegedly spat at two young women who he claims were not dressed modestly enough. The Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court extended the man’s remand by three days.
Police claim that Chananya Rabinovitz assaulted at least two women. One incident occurred six weeks ago at the Bar Ilan neighborhood in Jerusalem. The second incident also occurred several weeks ago.

The suspect was brought before the Magistrate’s Court on Monday and a police representative stated that two complaints were filed on Sunday, but he refused to give any details.

Attorney Yair Nahorai, who is representing the defendant, said that police have known about the complaints for quite a while. It was then revealed that the man was summoned for questioning on May 20 but only came to the station on Sunday where he was then arrested.
He expressed his surprise over the fact that police claim that he is dangerous even though he had been free to come and go as he pleases ever since he was summoned for questioning. At the end of the hearing Justice Hagit Mak-Kalmanovitz remanded the suspect and ruled that there were concerns over possible disruptions of proceedings and coordinating stories with additional people.

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The suspect’s family said that this was a case of a neighborhood quarrel. The suspect’s uncle told Ynet: “It is regretful that this entire story is happening while the matter of the exclusion of women (from the public sphere) is making front pages and police are taking advantage (of the story). This is a pitiful neighborhood quarrel which, if it were any other case, the police would take no notice of.”
The suspect’s mother Raizi Rabinovitz also believes the matter was taken out of proportion: “My son did not spit on the neighbor, she spat on him and constantly yells ‘it’s a shame the Nazis didn’t kill you’. I filed a complaint against her. We live in a state of co-existence. That same neighbor wants revenge and is using the exclusion of women to get revenge. It’s what goes today.”
Rabinovitz’s wife added: “There is no way my husband hit or spat on women. He doesn’t hit women and he doesn’t spit on them.”

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 01:40 PM tzviki Says:

Mi k'amcha Yisroel. Unfortunately some of these pritzus still don't get it. It's unfortunate that it gets to the point where spitting on them is necessary.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 02:21 PM Yovel Says:

Reply to #1  
tzviki Says:

Mi k'amcha Yisroel. Unfortunately some of these pritzus still don't get it. It's unfortunate that it gets to the point where spitting on them is necessary.

I assume that you're joking, but one can never be sure (Poe's Law).

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 02:26 PM gz814 Says:

tzviki- no question that there are those that, unfortunately, dress immodestly. but, spitting on our bnos yisroel, immodestly dressed or not, is clearly not an effective, nor mutar approach to solve this issue. kind, soft words of tochachah and encouragement will
certainly accomplish much much more!!!

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 02:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Let's not rush to judgement. No one here knows what happened.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 02:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
tzviki Says:

Mi k'amcha Yisroel. Unfortunately some of these pritzus still don't get it. It's unfortunate that it gets to the point where spitting on them is necessary.

Do ypu really believe that spitting on them is proper or as you say "necessary" Can you show me one Gadol who condones this? Is this the Yiddishe way? Is this the right way to influence someone? I'd sure like to know where you live?

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 02:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Tznius is not exclusive to women's dress. When I was in Bais Yaakov elementary school 30 years ago, my principal taught us that tznius is behaving like a mensch especially in the street, including not eating and speaking loudly. Calling attention to oneself by behaving like Mr. Rabinowitz and like the woman who may have provoked him is Pritzus of the highest order.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 03:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
gz814 Says:

tzviki- no question that there are those that, unfortunately, dress immodestly. but, spitting on our bnos yisroel, immodestly dressed or not, is clearly not an effective, nor mutar approach to solve this issue. kind, soft words of tochachah and encouragement will
certainly accomplish much much more!!!

Please don't respond to this troll who posts under the name tzviki; he is just trying to elicit responses to his outrageous comments which only should serve to have the same treatment b'yh accorded to the women in his family.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 03:13 PM Moshe Says:

Both his wife and mother vouch for him - that should be the end of it.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 03:19 PM REALIST Says:

As disgusted as we are with the looseness of today's society and its lack of moral values, I simply can't imagine R' Yisroel Salanter, the Chofetz Chaim or R' Chaim Shmulevitz advocating spitting as a way to give mussar.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 03:25 PM Wise-Guy Says:

A lesson in being Dan Lkaf zchus:

This young man is imbued with Ahavas-Yisroel and was concerned that these not-Tznius-dressed women can attract an "Ayin Hora", so he spit at them, which, as is mentioned in the Talmud, is an antidote against "the evil eye".

His sacrifice should be commended!
And Jewish women should stick to Halacha and not embellish their beauty in public. Or they might want to Shpatzeer in raincoats.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 04:09 PM luv_pancake Says:

Reply to #10  
Wise-Guy Says:

A lesson in being Dan Lkaf zchus:

This young man is imbued with Ahavas-Yisroel and was concerned that these not-Tznius-dressed women can attract an "Ayin Hora", so he spit at them, which, as is mentioned in the Talmud, is an antidote against "the evil eye".

His sacrifice should be commended!
And Jewish women should stick to Halacha and not embellish their beauty in public. Or they might want to Shpatzeer in raincoats.

hope you're kidding... maybe we should go 'round and spit on babies faces that are too cute? your name surely fits your comment, wise-guy

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 04:33 PM Babishka Says:

At other blogs, it is customary to include a {sarcasm} tag when making such posts because people might think you are serious!

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 04:47 PM lakewooder Says:

Sorry, why are we believing one sde over the other? He claims that she spat at him and she claims that he spat at her. Do we prefer to vilify the more charedi of the two (and then say he is not a true charedi)?

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 04:53 PM Butterfly Says:

If he does not like how they are dressed, let him not look!! He is not supposed to be looking anyways!! He has a wife at HOME!! What is he looking for?? I am not saying that her dress code is correct however, I am saying, yes, it should be corrected if possible and NO, he should not be spitting!! Where was he Brought up??

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 05:25 PM RalphWaldoEmerson Says:

Reply to #3  
gz814 Says:

tzviki- no question that there are those that, unfortunately, dress immodestly. but, spitting on our bnos yisroel, immodestly dressed or not, is clearly not an effective, nor mutar approach to solve this issue. kind, soft words of tochachah and encouragement will
certainly accomplish much much more!!!

Your comments seem to insinuate that if there was no other way to keep women from dressing immodestly than spitting, then spitting would be acceptable. Your missing the point, the only right you have is to look away or ask them to dress according to your personal views, the streets belong to everyone, dressed modestly or otherwise

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 05:35 PM anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
tzviki Says:

Mi k'amcha Yisroel. Unfortunately some of these pritzus still don't get it. It's unfortunate that it gets to the point where spitting on them is necessary.

spitting on another human is is lack of yiras shomayim, uncivilized, and the only remedy for the spitter to rearrange his dentition. Mi k'beheimo and wilde chaya, the spitter

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 05:50 PM savtat Says:

Spitting is the ultimate act of disdain. It has been reported here and in other newspapers that people spit on galochim in the old city. To so disgrace another human being cannot be part of a Torah lifestyle.

I have a friend whose daughter was doused with bleach while walking in Meah Shearim. She dresses like a NY Bais Yaakov girl. She is, however, quite beautiful even when she is fully covered. If being beautiful is now also a crime in ultra chareidi neighborhoods, we are experiencing something new. These "chasidim" are acting very much like the thugs in my old East NY neighborhood. They would attack a young woman because they could.

If good people stay quiet - these thugs will rule the streets. Is that what we want?

We cannot tell from this article what actually happened in this incident. But it sounds very similar to others that we have seen with our eyes.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 07:23 PM Anon Ibid Opcit Says:

Reply to #16  
anonymous Says:

spitting on another human is is lack of yiras shomayim, uncivilized, and the only remedy for the spitter to rearrange his dentition. Mi k'beheimo and wilde chaya, the spitter

Rearranging the dentition isn't necessary. Giving him a double helping of beytzim tapenade is perfectly acceptable.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 07:41 PM anonymous Says:

G'd bless America becaUSE in the U.S. such [person would be charged with assault and battery

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 08:07 PM "I regret I made aliah" Says:

I regret I made aliah

Seven years ago, i decided to make aliah. I wanted my sons to live in a free and decent country. Today, we have decided to move back to our original country because live in Israel has become awful. My children watch scenes of racism against Arabs, blacks, modern women. Israelis are impolite and aggressive in the day by day. We feel the country is becoming fascist, radical and extremist before our eyes and nobody do anything. This is not the country we dreamt of. Why can I explain to my children that we cannot discriminate human beings when we see a march of Jews screaming against arabs and blacks? How can I teach tolerance when women are attacked in the street like the Iranian or Saudi police of vice prevention and modesty? How can i teach my children to be decent human beings when hate and violence is the way Israelis act on the day by day. I am very sad and frustrated.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 08:50 PM BLONDI Says:

the wife said hit and spit....who said anything about hitting women??? oifen ganif brent the hittel....let him move to an island with his mother and wife and they can dress like he wants them to and control em...

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 08:57 PM clear-thinker Says:

Has it gone so far that we need {sarcasm} as a note for people to realize it is sarcasm? Unfortunately the answer is yes because many here have gone so overboard that no matter what they say is looked on as legitimate (or illegitimate) statements. Spit away my friends...it certainly will help others realize their mistake. If that gentle persuasion doesn't work move on to calling the person you are helping to correct a nazi. This will work especially well if he or she is a survivor or a child of a survivor. If this doesn't work push up the heat and tell the person that he or she is not Jewish. Jonathan Swift would be impressed by your modest proposal.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 09:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Wise-Guy Says:

A lesson in being Dan Lkaf zchus:

This young man is imbued with Ahavas-Yisroel and was concerned that these not-Tznius-dressed women can attract an "Ayin Hora", so he spit at them, which, as is mentioned in the Talmud, is an antidote against "the evil eye".

His sacrifice should be commended!
And Jewish women should stick to Halacha and not embellish their beauty in public. Or they might want to Shpatzeer in raincoats.

Spitting to counter an "ayin horah" is a bubba meisa with no basis in daas torah. The fact that someone's zeida in the alte heim or some rebbele in willy engaged in this vile habit doesn't make it any more acceptable. And shpatzeering in just a raincoat is more likely to get you arrested on a morals charge

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
tzviki Says:

Mi k'amcha Yisroel. Unfortunately some of these pritzus still don't get it. It's unfortunate that it gets to the point where spitting on them is necessary.

Really? and who assigned you the tznius police?

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 09:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Butterfly Says:

If he does not like how they are dressed, let him not look!! He is not supposed to be looking anyways!! He has a wife at HOME!! What is he looking for?? I am not saying that her dress code is correct however, I am saying, yes, it should be corrected if possible and NO, he should not be spitting!! Where was he Brought up??

Before you get overly excited...you are already accepting the loshon hara. And who gives you the right to do that? Did you see it happen? I didn't....and neither did you.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 10:32 PM Anon Ibid Opcit Says:

Reply to #13  
lakewooder Says:

Sorry, why are we believing one sde over the other? He claims that she spat at him and she claims that he spat at her. Do we prefer to vilify the more charedi of the two (and then say he is not a true charedi)?

She made the original complaint. Two other women unconnected with the original event also complained. The judge believes there is good reason to believe he coordinated his testimony with his wife and his mother.

And somehow we're supposed to believe his problems were with three women who just happened to all spit on him and use Nazi insults.

It doesn't wash.

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 10:33 PM Butterfly Says:

To #25 Then you accept spitting? What are you??

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 10:48 PM firsht Says:

Sounds like a made up story

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 11:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Moshe Says:

Both his wife and mother vouch for him - that should be the end of it.

Moshe Says: “ Both his wife and mother vouch for him - that should be the end of it. ”

Funny.

I assume you meant to be funny, right?

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 11:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Butterfly Says:

If he does not like how they are dressed, let him not look!! He is not supposed to be looking anyways!! He has a wife at HOME!! What is he looking for?? I am not saying that her dress code is correct however, I am saying, yes, it should be corrected if possible and NO, he should not be spitting!! Where was he Brought up??

what exactly do you mean "it should be corrected"?

Since when do people have to do dress according to other peoples' rules? If she doesn't want to dress more modestly, who are you to "correct" her?

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 Jun 04, 2012 at 11:13 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
savtat Says:

Spitting is the ultimate act of disdain. It has been reported here and in other newspapers that people spit on galochim in the old city. To so disgrace another human being cannot be part of a Torah lifestyle.

I have a friend whose daughter was doused with bleach while walking in Meah Shearim. She dresses like a NY Bais Yaakov girl. She is, however, quite beautiful even when she is fully covered. If being beautiful is now also a crime in ultra chareidi neighborhoods, we are experiencing something new. These "chasidim" are acting very much like the thugs in my old East NY neighborhood. They would attack a young woman because they could.

If good people stay quiet - these thugs will rule the streets. Is that what we want?

We cannot tell from this article what actually happened in this incident. But it sounds very similar to others that we have seen with our eyes.

I don't believe your story for even one second.

Anyone raised in New York who has bleach thrown on them would know to call the police immediately and press charges, even in Israel.

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 12:04 AM MidwesternGuy Says:

Reply to #12  
Babishka Says:

At other blogs, it is customary to include a {sarcasm} tag when making such posts because people might think you are serious!

This isn't a blog. It's a news site.

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 12:56 AM yankel Says:

I believe that this may be a long running argument between the neighbors and the immodestly dressed neighbor may be taking advantage, and possibly they spit at each other during these arguments and call each other names... But for a frum person there is NO EXCUSE for this type of behavior ! Yes, there is a double standard and frum people need first and foremost to act like super-mentschen while dealing with their neighbors frum or not frum or not jewish ! Time to take the black and white levush seriously, if you want to wear it, ACT IT !

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 04:07 AM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #10  
Wise-Guy Says:

A lesson in being Dan Lkaf zchus:

This young man is imbued with Ahavas-Yisroel and was concerned that these not-Tznius-dressed women can attract an "Ayin Hora", so he spit at them, which, as is mentioned in the Talmud, is an antidote against "the evil eye".

His sacrifice should be commended!
And Jewish women should stick to Halacha and not embellish their beauty in public. Or they might want to Shpatzeer in raincoats.

"This young man is imbued with Ahavas-Yisroel....."

He is so imbued with אהבת ישראל that he spits on them! Do your ears hear what your mouth is saying? Tell me, does the term delusional hold any special significance for you?

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 02:01 AM lazerx Says:

impossible to know what happened, but spitting? come on now, that is no way to change some one. the person who spits is a hot head incapable of dealing with difficulties and obviously does not take the words of chazel as important, darchiho, darchi no'am.

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 02:10 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #23  
Anonymous Says:

Spitting to counter an "ayin horah" is a bubba meisa with no basis in daas torah. The fact that someone's zeida in the alte heim or some rebbele in willy engaged in this vile habit doesn't make it any more acceptable. And shpatzeering in just a raincoat is more likely to get you arrested on a morals charge

I know the gemara discusses ayin horah but I've never seen mention of daas torah. How did you determine spitting against ayin horah is against daas torah?

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 Jun 05, 2012 at 07:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

I don't believe your story for even one second.

Anyone raised in New York who has bleach thrown on them would know to call the police immediately and press charges, even in Israel.

This isn't the first time a case of bleach being thrown on an innocent person has been reported. A number of similar incidents have been verified in the past. Whether you choose to remain in denial or not, these things happen. And most of the time the perps get away with it.

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 Jun 06, 2012 at 09:42 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Anonymous Says:

This isn't the first time a case of bleach being thrown on an innocent person has been reported. A number of similar incidents have been verified in the past. Whether you choose to remain in denial or not, these things happen. And most of the time the perps get away with it.

I didn't say it never happened. I said anyone it happened to must be a moron not to report it and press charges.

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