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New York, NY - Cameras to Catch Speeders May Arrive Soon

Published on: June 19, 2012 08:29 PM
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A digital speed camera monitors traffic. EPA/Patrick SeegerNew York, NY - For many New York City drivers, the cadences of the common speeding ticket can be unfamiliar. Rare is the need to haggle with a police officer, pleading to be let off with a warning, or presenting the pregnant wife as Exhibit A in a bid for lenience. Rarer is the stretch of urban streetscape where an officer might safely approach an offending vehicle, as he would on a highway shoulder.

Under a proposal now gaining traction in Albany, though, New Yorkers may soon be answering to an authority more suited to the city’s topography: cameras that record the speed of a passing car and issue violations automatically.

Though similar programs have already been put into effect for red-light and bus-lane violations in the city, the bill could signal a sweeping shift for drivers accustomed to a city whose traffic laws can be hard to enforce, cutting against an ethos of getting from here to there as quickly as possible.

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The proposal initially calls for as many as 40 cameras to be mounted high across the city, of which 20 can be rotated, ensuring that drivers are never certain when their speed is being tracked.

Only those who exceed the city’s speed limit, typically 30 miles per hour, by more than 10 miles per hour would be given tickets, receiving a $50 fine. For those who exceed the limit by more than 30 m.p.h., the fine doubles to $100. Drivers would not be docked points on their licenses.



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 Jun 19, 2012 at 08:35 PM judith Says:

excellent

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 08:44 PM YiddisheKup Says:

anything to drive revenue. this city makes me sick to my stomach.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 08:58 PM lollypop Says:

There not worried about our speeding and our life safety ! It all comes to cash again! keep going communist America!!!

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 08:58 PM X29 Rider Says:

Life in this city continues its spiral downwards. After eliminating the X29 Express Bus, the M train going to Southern Brooklyn, cutting service on countless subway and bus lines, now this. Virtually, no one travels 30 mph on many stretches of city roads. Between Red Light Cameras and live speed traps, and now automated speed trap cameras, no one is going to travel anywhere and even more businsses will close.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 09:10 PM curious Says:

This is a good idea. If people go above 30 by a bit and get fined it would be ridiculous. But those that go 40 should be stopped and punished! They take others lives in their hands.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 09:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
curious Says:

This is a good idea. If people go above 30 by a bit and get fined it would be ridiculous. But those that go 40 should be stopped and punished! They take others lives in their hands.

It's idiots like you that are the cause for limits in soda... Don't u get it, it's not about speeding it's about big brother... You will all agree with me sooner or later, keep saying these types of CRAZY things are good ideas, I'll see you in Siberia

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 09:57 PM ffkrn Says:

Anyone know if a Jammer would help in this case? I assume that yes the same way it works with the regular radars.... Go get em!

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 10:21 PM Facts1 Says:

Reply to #5  
curious Says:

This is a good idea. If people go above 30 by a bit and get fined it would be ridiculous. But those that go 40 should be stopped and punished! They take others lives in their hands.

Once you give over your privacy, they dont ask you. Soon they will fine you for every time you J walk, they will use a database that can track you based on your eye prints.

Hey you dont like that, we already use that for speeding tickets so its only logical to do the same for everything else. That's how government controls people, they find certain things like health and security which you'll agree to give up "some" of your rights and then they advance.

No one protested when they Gloomberg trampled over smokers rights, now he's onto your soda, popcorn and salt.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
curious Says:

This is a good idea. If people go above 30 by a bit and get fined it would be ridiculous. But those that go 40 should be stopped and punished! They take others lives in their hands.

"Only those who exceed the city’s speed limit, typically 30 miles per hour, by more than 10 miles per hour would be given tickets, receiving a $50 fine. For those who exceed the limit by more than 30 m.p.h., the fine doubles to $100. Drivers would not be docked points on their licenses."

So its not about the "driver" or safety its about the revenue.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 10:44 PM JackC Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

"Only those who exceed the city’s speed limit, typically 30 miles per hour, by more than 10 miles per hour would be given tickets, receiving a $50 fine. For those who exceed the limit by more than 30 m.p.h., the fine doubles to $100. Drivers would not be docked points on their licenses."

So its not about the "driver" or safety its about the revenue.

Pedestrians hit at 30 mph had a chance of surviving.
Pedestrians hit at 60 mph don't.

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 Jun 19, 2012 at 10:53 PM katzala Says:

Imagine the camera catches you drinking a big soda you get double fined

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 12:08 AM a nelson Says:

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lollypop Says:

There not worried about our speeding and our life safety ! It all comes to cash again! keep going communist America!!!

if it were for safety the cameras would be marked so people would slow down.

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 12:34 AM Anonymous Says:

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JackC Says:

Pedestrians hit at 30 mph had a chance of surviving.
Pedestrians hit at 60 mph don't.

Thanks for repeating the latest billboard slogan...I hope you didn't type it while you drove...

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 12:49 AM DoctorD Says:

Reply to #11  
katzala Says:

Imagine the camera catches you drinking a big soda you get double fined

I do agree that this city is becoming too controlling, but all of you out there crying communism and violation of privacy....whom do you think you are fooling? Don't speed and you won't have any beefs with this bill. When you harmlessly walk down the street it is perfectly legal for someone to take your photo, and my logic says even more so when you're breaking the law.
I too speed infrequently and I don't mind being forced to slow down, regardless of the method.
One of the most dangerous roads to drive on when it is not rush hour is the FDR drive. People do 50-60 there and there's no possible spot for a cop to patrol safely. There are many roads like this.
Finally, the absence of points being given here has nothing to do with money generation. It is precisely the increased burden of proof on the state that the law requires that prevents points from being docked here.
There are other administrative laws that matter here too, like the one that states that only an ALJ (administrative law judge) can impose points, which implies "not a camera".
Instead I being conspiracy theorists, how about just driving like a mentch?

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 06:04 AM Ovadia Says:

I can't understand the intransigent attitude by some on this board, pertaining to automobile safety and obeying the traffic laws. Driving is not a right, but a priviledge. When a motorist is granted a driver's license by any of the states, he/she has entered into a binding contract, which essentially states that all traffic laws shall be obeyed. Obeying traffic laws means driving within the lawfully authorized speed limits, not 10 or 20 miles over it. If one wishes to race their cars, there are many race tracks which can be utilized, in which to practice their racing skills on. Time and time again, it has been documented by the National Safety Council, as well as by accident investigation experts, that speed kills. What is so difficult about observing the traffic laws? As my physics professor used to teach us, for every action, there is a reaction. If motorists wish to speed, they will be ticketed. If they are ticketed, they should not whine, or try to excuse their illegal behavior.

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 09:06 AM JackC Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

Thanks for repeating the latest billboard slogan...I hope you didn't type it while you drove...

Until it is your neighbor. Until it is your child. Or your wife. Or you.
Then everyone will ask for your name because you didn't like the State telling him to drive prudently.

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 09:46 AM MAYERFREUND Says:

Please explain how will this reduce crime that has gone up recently, or how will this bring back almost a million jobs and over 2 million people that left the city since bloomberg is mayor.

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 09:56 AM tzibrochenkup Says:

Maybe we should rather slow down a litlle on the local streets and get off the phones (talking and texting) so we won't have so many accidents.
Our streets are be"h full and people think that they are on a race track. Total disregard to the law and to humanity(mentschlechkeit).

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM KevinTheMevin Says:

Guys leave new york before its too late. see whats coming and leave, we need to get out of his hell hole of a city

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #8  
Facts1 Says:

Once you give over your privacy, they dont ask you. Soon they will fine you for every time you J walk, they will use a database that can track you based on your eye prints.

Hey you dont like that, we already use that for speeding tickets so its only logical to do the same for everything else. That's how government controls people, they find certain things like health and security which you'll agree to give up "some" of your rights and then they advance.

No one protested when they Gloomberg trampled over smokers rights, now he's onto your soda, popcorn and salt.

" they will use a database that can track you based on your eye prints."

I doubt it very highly, my life is of no interest to anybody other than my family, my rav and my friends. But for the sake of conversation, let me grant you your premise that sinister "they" will attempt to "track" my comings and goings using cameras, GPS, heat sensors, what you call "eye prints" or some even more exotic technologies. Why should I mind?

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 03:05 PM musicluver Says:

Reply to #15  
Ovadia Says:

I can't understand the intransigent attitude by some on this board, pertaining to automobile safety and obeying the traffic laws. Driving is not a right, but a priviledge. When a motorist is granted a driver's license by any of the states, he/she has entered into a binding contract, which essentially states that all traffic laws shall be obeyed. Obeying traffic laws means driving within the lawfully authorized speed limits, not 10 or 20 miles over it. If one wishes to race their cars, there are many race tracks which can be utilized, in which to practice their racing skills on. Time and time again, it has been documented by the National Safety Council, as well as by accident investigation experts, that speed kills. What is so difficult about observing the traffic laws? As my physics professor used to teach us, for every action, there is a reaction. If motorists wish to speed, they will be ticketed. If they are ticketed, they should not whine, or try to excuse their illegal behavior.

You are right, but at the same time, if they REALLY want to show that they are interested in safety, then put signs on the roads warning them of such cameras!I heard about a councilman who tried to persuade the mayor to put warning signs for red liht cameras that they were planning to put in Queens. When he presented it, he was told that the mayor was "unhappy with such a proposal"! Don't think it's not all about revenue. IT IS!!!

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 06:35 PM DanielBarbaz Says:

If you obey the law and do not endanger innocent people, cameras at every light would not matter to you. My friend, nebech, was killed by someone trying to get through a red light that had already changed.

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 Jun 20, 2012 at 09:20 PM commonsense18 Says:

They cant give you points because they do not know who is driving- if you lend your car to a friend and he/she speeds- you will ge the ticket- same as a red light camera. And who is going to calibrate these camera to make sure speed recording is accurate?

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