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Queens, NY - 25,000 Expected To Make Yearly Pilgrimage To Lubavitcher Rebbe's Grave

Published on: June 22, 2012 09:40 AM
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Photo by: Baruch EzaguiQueens, NY - A Queens community has established a plan to cope with the annual Orthodox Jewish pilgrimage — and the trash left in its wake.

Up to 25,000 Chabad-Lubavitch Jews are expected to gather in Cambria Heights this weekend to pay tribute at the grave of their leader, the Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The rebbe died June 12, 1994, but this Saturday marks the 18th anniversary of his passing under the Hebrew calendar.

“It is a time to ask for blessing and to connect with his soul,” said Rabbi Abba Refson, of the Ohel Chabad-Lubavitch, the synagogue hosting the event.

But the annual pilgrimage, which draws Orthodox Jews from all over the world, irritates residents in the middle-class, African American enclave. Neighbors have said some visitors hog parking spots and leave trash strewn over otherwise well-kept yards.

“The ruder ones think nothing of urinating on our front lawns or defecating in the bushes,” said Richard Davis, 73.

An added complication: This year the event falls on the Sabbath, meaning the Ultra-Orthodox followers cannot drive or ride the subway Saturday and some will camp overnight.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM concerned_Jew Says:

Sounds pretty bad the way they describe the Jews coming to visit.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM gavriel Says:

People urinate on front lawns? i don't believe that statement for a second because police would be there to issue summonses if that was going on every year.
I went last year and i only saw massive crowds but they were all respectful. I didn't see garbage on the floor because there many large garbage containers for one to throw out their garbage.

The only issue is having 25,000 people and having major traffic. This is once a year so the neighbors should stop complaining. When they had a chance to sell their homes they didn't now the economy stinks and the neighbors are not getting the value of years ago so they are all bitter.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM Brian Says:

"“The ruder ones think nothing of urinating on our front lawns or defecating in the bushes,” said Richard Davis, 73."

What an anti Semite. I've been making annual pilgrimages for Shabbos of the Rebbe's yohrtzeit since 1995, and I must say that is pure unadulterated anti Semitic drivel (not to mention a massive lie).

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 10:37 AM cocoaman Says:

they have taken such extra caution this year,the neighbors hav nothing to worry bout.clear signs by every driveway.a whole cleaning crew.tons of watebaskets.a lot of port a johnnys.people comng for shabbos will NOT be sleeping on neighbors lawns but rather in a hotel,large tents set up in empty lots bout a mile away....they can rest assure

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 10:43 AM Ahavas Chinam Says:

Imagine if the tables were turned and yidden spoke of African-Americans in such as way.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 11:27 AM No Pisherlach Says:

Maybe one nut once got drunk and pished on a lawn. There is always an exception to the rule of the orderly crowds that come to the Ohel on 3 Tammuz, and always an anti-Semite to make a rule out of that exception. Like many older lower middle class "homeowners" who were sucked into the mortgage craze, that Richard Davis probably has negative equity in his home and is angry at Jews because to him, Jews are the bankers that dun him for money every month.

When I lived in NY I went to the Ohel every few weeks at different hours of the day to daven, as well as two consecutive years on Gimmel Tammuz, and never once did I see anything resembling disrespectful behavior to the neighbors or fellow mispalelim. Most of the neighbors are not Richard Davis either; they're hard-working people who aren't looking for fights.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 11:37 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

Reply to #5  
Ahavas Chinam Says:

Imagine if the tables were turned and yidden spoke of African-Americans in such as way.

"Imagine if the tables were turned and yidden spoke of African-Americans in such as way."

I completely agree with you! Amen!

Problem is: how many Jews would come on here & defend the African American community, if an article like this, was written about THEM?! (lol)

Or would MANY here on VIN, just shrug their shoulders & say: "Well, it's TRUE!"

I know many Europeans aren't too happy with the annual pilgrimages of the Yidden on Rosh Hashanah either. They too say all sorts of horrible things about you folks when you go over there every year!

And yet... many of you defend the Yidden who travel over there & claim all of the Europeans must have it wrong & that they must ALL be anti-semites for complaining about you folks!

So why can't the SAME benefit of the doubt be given to others? Are only Jews falsely accused or mischaracterized?!

Many of the Ukrainians who complain ARE anti-semites! And I feel that their incessant complaining about the Yidden coming there every year, DOES stem from a place of anti-semitism & not wanting a "bunch of Jews hanging around".

But again, this sort of attitude seems to only offend you all...when it's a poor attitude directed at your own people.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM GMY75 Says:

was there this morniing, there were plenty of ppl there, and NOONE was rude or doing anything these ppl say..
there are signs by each driveway instructing ppl not to block etc
i wish they would behave as nice on labor day in crown heights as the yidden are behaving there

but then again, if there is only nice things to say... its not news!

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

Reply to #5  
Ahavas Chinam Says:

Imagine if the tables were turned and yidden spoke of African-Americans in such as way.

PS: I just want to add that I really DO find this article & all of the complaining about the Yidden visiting the gravesite, to be rather offensive. I know I already stated that once, but I want to make it clear, because I know that some will read my *1st* post, and be upset & think I'm accusing you ALL of being racist, etc. So before the virtual tomatoes get thrown, I'd like to just nip that in the bud. (lol)

I WOULD defend the Jewish people, if I heard someone accusing the entire lot of them, of being messy, littering people & whatnot! After all, whenever there is a large gathering of ANY people... there is trash left sometimes!

Plus, sometimes there were be a FEW rotten apples in a bunch, that can spoil the whole barrel! But that doesn't mean that the ENTIRE group or culture of people, should be shunned, treated w\disrespect, or accused of ALL doing the same things!

I believe everyone should be held accountable for their OWN actions & that the family of the people committing the crimes, or the community of the people committing the crimes, shouldn't have to be ALSO put on "trial" or found to be guilty, by everyone else!

I just want that system of fairness to apply to ALL!

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 12:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Frum Jews don't act they way describe by the neighborhood

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM funnsmart1 Says:

Reply to #3  
Brian Says:

"“The ruder ones think nothing of urinating on our front lawns or defecating in the bushes,” said Richard Davis, 73."

What an anti Semite. I've been making annual pilgrimages for Shabbos of the Rebbe's yohrtzeit since 1995, and I must say that is pure unadulterated anti Semitic drivel (not to mention a massive lie).

I for one am super offended by this piece of defacation! I think Lubavitch should go after this and sue him for libel... This is disgusting!! Then, he will lose his house, and he wont have to deal with these "awful Jews!" I go to the Ohel often, between birthdays, and family yortzeits, engagements and all, I have never blocked a driveway, and never seen anyone else blocking driveways for that matter either. Gimmel Tamuz is a somber day, not a party day like these jealous neighbors would have you believe.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 12:50 PM Lazer Says:

Don't believe the statements of the neighbors regarding the visitors "urinating on front lawns or defecating in the bushes. There are bathrooms near the Rebbi's Ohel. People will say anything to denigrate Jews and it's believed without any fact checking.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 01:07 PM Man In Manchester Says:

Oh man what a bunch of unchecked rubbish coming from a 73yr old loser of mass proprotions of brain loss.
I can't believe the DN actually printed this - makes you wonder about each and every other article they "print".
I can promise you this guy has indeed no equity, no job, no life and no chance for recovery whatsoever - how sad.

Like someone posted if the blacks acted on labor day in crown heights the way the jews act on gimel tamuz it would be the day moshiach came period!

How utterly pathethic.
May the rebbe and all fellow tazaddikim on high pray for us all.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 01:12 PM shredready Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Frum Jews don't act they way describe by the neighborhood

yes frum Jews do not do scams do not molest do not smuggle. Just saying, stop making out that frum people can never do wrong

regarding this story, whether Jews behave poorly or not is really not an issue. The problem is simply, 25,000 in that area is way to much for that community to handle. Even at best behavior there will be problems. They have a nice quiet area and all of a sudden there are 25,00 extra people there,. Do not just dismiss their concerns that by itself is very rude, and can cause problems

Step back for one second, and see how would you like if once year 25,000 outsider decide to come to Boro Park or willie would you be so accommodating.

I do not think so you do not even want a few bike riders going by you area.

The best would be to meet them and work out so everybody can be happy, and I am sure most are very respectful but i am also sure a few yiddin are jerks and ruin it for everyone. to deny that there are not even a few jerks is living in fantasy land

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 01:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
GMY75 Says:

was there this morniing, there were plenty of ppl there, and NOONE was rude or doing anything these ppl say..
there are signs by each driveway instructing ppl not to block etc
i wish they would behave as nice on labor day in crown heights as the yidden are behaving there

but then again, if there is only nice things to say... its not news!

"there are signs by each driveway instructing ppl not to block etc"

Now, I wonder why such a precaution should even be necessary? Let me think - ahhh, of course! All those superior, "ehrliche", yidden, thinking they own the place.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
No Pisherlach Says:

Maybe one nut once got drunk and pished on a lawn. There is always an exception to the rule of the orderly crowds that come to the Ohel on 3 Tammuz, and always an anti-Semite to make a rule out of that exception. Like many older lower middle class "homeowners" who were sucked into the mortgage craze, that Richard Davis probably has negative equity in his home and is angry at Jews because to him, Jews are the bankers that dun him for money every month.

When I lived in NY I went to the Ohel every few weeks at different hours of the day to daven, as well as two consecutive years on Gimmel Tammuz, and never once did I see anything resembling disrespectful behavior to the neighbors or fellow mispalelim. Most of the neighbors are not Richard Davis either; they're hard-working people who aren't looking for fights.

"Richard Davis probably has negative equity in his home and is angry at Jews because to him, Jews are the bankers that dun him for money every month."

That comment is libellous and actionable on so many levels. With people like #6 exercising her so-called "First Amendment rights" no wonder the goyim hate us so much - particularly Mr Davis.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 03:35 PM esther Says:

Reply to #14  
shredready Says:

yes frum Jews do not do scams do not molest do not smuggle. Just saying, stop making out that frum people can never do wrong

regarding this story, whether Jews behave poorly or not is really not an issue. The problem is simply, 25,000 in that area is way to much for that community to handle. Even at best behavior there will be problems. They have a nice quiet area and all of a sudden there are 25,00 extra people there,. Do not just dismiss their concerns that by itself is very rude, and can cause problems

Step back for one second, and see how would you like if once year 25,000 outsider decide to come to Boro Park or willie would you be so accommodating.

I do not think so you do not even want a few bike riders going by you area.

The best would be to meet them and work out so everybody can be happy, and I am sure most are very respectful but i am also sure a few yiddin are jerks and ruin it for everyone. to deny that there are not even a few jerks is living in fantasy land

the newspaper story made an issue out of jewish behavior. don't be so eager to dismiss a blatant lie just because it suits your agenda.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 03:37 PM esther Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

"Richard Davis probably has negative equity in his home and is angry at Jews because to him, Jews are the bankers that dun him for money every month."

That comment is libellous and actionable on so many levels. With people like #6 exercising her so-called "First Amendment rights" no wonder the goyim hate us so much - particularly Mr Davis.

this davis makes such an outragous and disgusting statement and you atttack those who disparage him?

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 03:49 PM judith Says:

And what about the West Indian Day Parade every year in CH, with drunken and violent mobs roving the streets. The Lubavitchers there must hide out intheir homes all day or escape the premises.

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 05:15 PM Concerned Says:

Unfortunately, there are Yidden who leave a mess, and are not very good about either personal hygiene, or cleanliness in areas that they frequent. When I went to the local JCC health club, there were inconsiderate Yidden, who would leave their dirty gym clothes strewn all over the locker room. At the local Kollel, there are also messy people who leave food all over the floor, as well as dirty tissues on the tables. At Kiddushes, how many people clean up?

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 Jun 22, 2012 at 06:00 PM shmaltz222 Says:

ive been to the ohel on the yurtzeit about 3 yrs in a row... and im a HUGE critic generally....

seemed very well behaved and orderly almost to a fault..

in fact the pilgrims seemed to have a very nice rapport with the police as well...

overall very impressive and good representation...

and in terms of the inconvenience... its ONE day a year (generally) ..gimme a break

if someone cant handle that , they dont belong in NY

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 Jun 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM md2205 Says:

I was walking down the street in Cambria Heights with my baby in the stroller and just as I walked past a sprinkler on a lawn, the sprinkler turned on just as I was in the right spot to get soaked. As soon as I walked past, the sprinkler turned off. What a coincidence!

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