Israel – Finance Minister Yair Lapid is working to build a “coalition within the coalition” to create a civil alternative to religious marriage in Israel, including gay marriage.
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In a question and answer session on his Facebook page Thursday night, Lapid told a questioner that he was “definitely” planning on advancing the civil marriage issue.
“I’m a big supporter of civil marriage,” Lapid said. “We’re working to create a coalition within the coalition. Yisrael Beytenu is for it, other parties less. We’ll battle for this and work for it tirelessly, for civil marriage, including marriages for same-sex couples in Israel, simply because it’s the just and right thing to do.”
“The rabbinate can’t have a monopoly on marriage and divorce. People need there to be an alternative,” he added.
Lapid’s video chat was part of a media offensive to shore up support for his budget, which included tax increases and welfare cuts that critics construed as a departure from campaign promises not to harm the middle class.
“Everything that we’re doing today is to ensure that the middle class doesn’t become poor,” Lapid said. “This pain is very temporary. We will come out of it in a year or a year and a half.”
Saying that “fixes” was a better word than “cuts,” Lapid reiterated his talking points of recent days: that the disabled, elderly, Holocaust Survivors were shielded from cuts, while the country continued to invest in education. The middle class, he said, would reap many benefits in upcoming economic reforms, which he said would lower the cost of living.
Most dramatically, Lapid said the harshest cuts were aimed at the haredi community to help push them into the labor force.
“I already cut for the haredim more than ever has been,” he said, alluding to cuts in child allowances that disproportionally affect the fertile community. “Israel doesn’t need a culture of allowances, but a culture of work.”
“What are child allowances? Child allowances say ‘I have kids but want someone else to pay.’ Who is paying? Someone else who has kids, who is taking from his kids and giving to others’ kids,” Lapid said. The cuts, he continued, “act to push people to the job market.”
The state’s responsibility for children, he said, was not to subsidize their families, but to provide education and a productive army experience.
“Nobody should bring children into the world and say someone else should pay their bills. Allowances don’t prevent poverty, allowances perpetuate poverty.”
One questioner, who said he was a full-time Torah student, complained that cuts would leave his family short of money, and said his wife would have to divorce him to obtain a subsidy for single mothers in order for their family to survive. Isn’t that a “piggish” intervention into his wife’s private life, the man asked? Lapid’s response: “There’s another option – that you’ll work.” Noting that the man would only need to work for ten hours a week to bridge the difference, Lapid shot back, his decision not to work was the gross intervention into his wife’s private life.
“The Rambam was a doctor,” Lapid added in reference to Maimonides, the great rabbi of the middle ages, “ and still managed to be the Rambam.”
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and that’s supposed to be our nation? and that’s considered aschalta digeula? and how right was the satmar riv zatzal when he said “I’m afraid it’s gonna come a time and a erlicha yid won’t be able to live there” looks very well that that time is coming shortly, hashem yerachem
If he is successful, R”L, he will cause the destruction of the State of Israel:
The rest of the world is already on the path of destruction.
“Rabbi Huna said in the name of Rebbe: ‘The Generation of the Flood was not eradicated from the world until they wrote marriage documents for homsexuals and animals'”
Bereishis Rabbah 26:5.
Ok I think it’s pretty clear what this guys agenda is. Anyone who supports him and calls themselves frum needs their head examined!
This man is a wicked person !!you must be stopped!!!
He’s promising everything to everyone. That’s usually a recipe for failure.
So are Rabbis Piron and Lipman also in favor of gay marriage? Maybe Rabbi Feldman was a little over the top by calling Lipman a “rosha” but it is becoming more and more apparent that Lipman is a fool. One cannot expect to get anywhere with the Chareidim when Yesh Atid keeps on trying to attack and change the religious status quo of the past 65 years. Yesh Atid and Lipman will reverse any and all gains of the past 10 years that saw more and more Chareidim joining the Army and the Workforce. Posting to facebook on Shabbos, supporting civil and gay marriage, placing women on the dayanim committee, supporting bus service on Shabbos, and criminalizing gender segregation will only elicit reactionary responses and the real issues of Army service and workforce participation will be lost.
many haredim are to blame for the hatred towards them. It is a pity for those that are yes normal. and i wonder if the arabs are also getting their family allowance cut.
what is going to happen with these people running the show?. I am so afraid – a sakono for all the yidden, r’l.
“The state’s responsibility for children, he said, was not to subsidize their families, but to provide education and a productive army experience”
So I guess the US, Canada, and most of Europe got it all wrong, as they all provide allowances and tax credits for children and yet do not provide the productive Army experience. This guy sounds like a Spartan warrior and has no concept of the proper role of government.
In our community, not only is gay marriage assur, but we prohibit even talking bein gavra l’gavra.
The Satmar Rov ZTL was correct. When I get a chance I will post directions to his kever in Monroe so all the anti satmars out there could go & beg for m’chilla.
So Dear Rabbi Lipman, Do you still believe that Lapid is all about helping Charedi Jewry enter the workforce and contribute to the Israeli economy or perhaps is there another agenda involved?? Just asking
Where are his partners Bennett and lipman etc.? Why aren’t they speaking out against this ochair yisroel?! How power corrupts!!!!
It doesn’t need any more explanations we are in deep trouble. השם ירחם
I have to say, in response to the questioner at the end of the article: Lapid is right. These spongers need to stop bleeding the system and take responsibility for their own families.
I think civil marriage and gay marriage is terrible but the chareidim will soon realize that they only have themselves to blame for lapid getting in power not Lipman not the dati’s… People used to think that frum people were moral people, the israeli and lakewood extreme charedi krum attitudes are destroyed us.
Junk bonds might sell better.
This is certainly not Kosher. Torah calls it abomination! For this cause Hashem gave them up to vile affections for even their women did change their natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in lust toward one another. So Dont be defiled be Kadosh! Shalom.
Yes the Satmar Rebbe was so wise. He told us to stay in Europe and get killed. After that didnt work out too well, he told us to move to New York where they already have Gay marriage. Smart move!
I think you should all move past the gay thing… I think you all protest too much, if you get my drift. Its no worse than being mechalel Shabbos.
In 50 years, you are all going to realize how stupid and ignorant you sound. (think back to the 50’s when ordinary Americans were protesting giving equal rights to blacks)
How many battles do the posters on this site want to fight at once? You want everyone to give in to your every demand and yet you offer no compromise on a single issue.
1) Army Draft
2) Women of the Wall
3) Non kosher/Non shomer shabbos places
4) Separation on buses/in the streets
5) Subsidies for yeshiva students
6) Absolute power over marriage and geirus
And its funny because you can see that different segments of Israeli population have different issues with the charedim. The dati leumi have a problem with the draft and the subsidies but agree on the rest. Labor has an issue withe everything except the subsides.
The charedim have to realize they live in a democracy not a theocracy. They charedim in America seem to get along fine, even though all these things are normal in America.
You people have to realize theres a difference between persecution and not allowing you to control everyone else’s lives. The fact that gay people can get married in no way affects your ability to get married. The fact that women can daven at the kotel in tfilin in no way affects your ability to daven at the kotel. The fact that a secular israeli can eat pig, doesn’t mean you have to.
I guess frankfurter did not deserve all the flak last week…. Seems he’s not such a ‘propagandist’