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Monroe, NY - In Photos-Video: Thousands Of Satmar Hasidim Mark 34th Yartzeit Of Rabbi Joel be Teitelbaum Zt'l

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Monroe, NY - Thousands are pouring today into the Village of Kiryas Joel to take part in the annual observance of the death of Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, founder and first Grande Rebbe of the Satmar dynasty.

A steady stream of visitors from both Satmar and other Orthodox Jewish sects are making their way to the Kiryas Joel mausoleum where Rabbi Teitelbaum, under whose namesake the village was formed just two years prior to his death at the age of 92 in August of 1979, and his wife are buried.

Officials cautioned that since Rabbi Teitelbaum’s yartzeit falls on a Friday this year, summer traffic along Route 17 may be may be affected.

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This morning, VIN News Brooklyn photographer Stefano Giovannoni visited the Village to capture the event.

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 04:06 PM ALTERG Says:

hate toward fellow Jews???? Even you will live 150 years you will never have his loveness to every jew in the world, I'm named after him & proud of that

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 04:34 PM Anonymous Says:

Thousands come together but two brothers can't even talk to each other or attend events together let alone each other's simchas. Rav Yoel was undoubtedly lshem shomayim. Now?????????

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 04:41 PM Anonymous Says:

what are you talking about? he loved every Jew with all of his heart - he wanted to protect Jews from danger, and this is why he opposed the Zionist movement (indeed, both religious and secular) - but if any Jew came to ask him for help or charity - even in one case a secular Jew who wrote extensively against him in the Israeli Press - he always gave generously with love and best wishes and blessings - he sent money to build mikvaos in far off Jewish communities - he raised money to save Jews in Russia and in Morocco and Iran etc. - maybe you should learn more about who he was before you comment - BH there are several books now available in English which teach about his life and ways

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 04:58 PM proud satmar chosid Says:

i have no idea what history you know about satmar rebbi, but you are totally misinformed ,the rebbi didnt hate any jew ,no matter how religious he was,he had a love to every yidishe neshumah,he helped with money any1 who came to him ,it could be a zionist lover ,as they are alot of storys ,he didnt hate israel his heart went out for israel ,he actually visited prior to war and lived there after the war ,his heart got torn of the iriligous people who made israel secular ,a holy land and the biggest avirous was done there ,an his goal wasent that he should be a rebbi,and have a chasidus army , his goal was to make sure every jew is close to ribono shel olam ,what do you need more then this story, when he was in chicago for a shabbos ,to rase some funds ,he was drowning in dept ,he made a nice furtone after shabbos he wanted to go home, the shull leaders from a suburb came to him telling him that they have a issue with the mikvah ,he didnt think twice took the whole money he earned, and gave it to them ,just for the ribono shel olam he didnt plan on getting a satmar shul there, or mosed ,just that every fellow jew should be close to the ribono shel olam ,read more about the holy rebbi

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 05:15 PM proud yoely Says:

i suggest you read some books about the holy rebbi before commenting ,the rebbis had no desire to build a chasidis army ,his mind was totally different then yours ,he had one goal to get every yid close to ribono shel olam he helped every jewish soal because he had a love to every yidishe neshumah ,he gave tremendous ammounts of tzedukah ,not for his chasidim but for every jew who asked him for help ,and even for those who didnt but he felt they need it ,and they could be mizrach,agudah didnt matter ,he had a love for israel ,the holy land he visited it prior to the war and was all over taken from the kedushah ,and he actually lived there after,but his holy heart was torn from all evirous the zionists did there they took the holy land fulll of kedushah and made it secular his heart bleeded for the ribono shel olam ,he was a shabbos in chicago to rase funds he was in debt,he made a nice furtune when he was heading home the community leaders in 1 of the suburbs told him matter of fact that the mikvah is in bad shape he didnt think twuce tok all the money handed it over back in debt,he dint plan to build a shull there ,just for the sake of hashem and his fellow jews ,

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 05:32 PM AlbertEinstein Says:

Please quote a single message of hate from R'Yoel. Not paraphrase. Not hearsay. A real verbatim quote.

Zechuso yagein aleinu, v'al Kol Yisroel. You, too, PBF.

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 05:56 PM Anonymous Says:

I am not a Satmar but M.O. If as you say the Rebbi A"H hated other Jews would the Satmar Bikur Cholim be so active visiting all the major hospitals in the N.Y. area bringing not only food but a smile and hope to ALL the Jewish patients? It was the Rebbi's love for all Jews that made him start the Satmar Bikur Cholim. He was against the founding of the state of Israel. He certaintly didn't hate other Jews. Before you post you should have done some research. You look foolish.

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:17 PM Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:26 PM newwillijew Says:

Stef, Awesome work as usual!

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:42 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Thousands come together but two brothers can't even talk to each other or attend events together let alone each other's simchas. Rav Yoel was undoubtedly lshem shomayim. Now?????????

Well it's obvious that all your info is from the media, so let me tell you something, "they CAN'T talk to each other" is wrong! No-one is blocking them,
When the REBBE was around there was also ignorant people who claimed the stupidity it's not leshem shomayim, BUT THE FACT IS, HE WAS REALLY LESHEM SHOMAYIM!

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:45 PM Alter-Moshe Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

How can VIN let post such comment ?

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:45 PM Informed chosid from crown heights 1946/7 Says:

I remember hearing stories of the D'vrei Yoel Z'tzal ,Meeting the Lubavitcher Rebbe Z'ya at the Koslover Beis Medrish Library on president st ,where they would talk in Torah for hours on end,
We all know they had close corespondent over the years

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 06:52 PM TexasJew Says:

How does everyone find their hats after shul on Shabbos?
Not only Satmar but every cossid with a shtreimal. I never figured this out.

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 Aug 02, 2013 at 11:37 PM PrettyBoyFloyd Says:

To all of you commenting on my comment, calling a fellow yid "Amuleik" is a funny way of showing "love" yet concern for that person.
No one has to convince anyone that the Lubavitcher Rebbe loved every Jew Yiye Mi Shiye. Yet you and all Satmerers always feel the need to convince everyone that the Satmer Rebbe really did love every Yid. I'm not convinced. And yes, I own and have read many times an original (1967) Al Hagiula V'Al Hatmurah.

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 09:48 PM Insider Says:

To #12: History is truth.

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 09:58 PM DanielBarbaz Says:

I believe that the Satmar Rebbe a"h loved every Yid.

What I do not understand is why is so much vitriol spewed on this site against fellow Yidden just because they may not be on the same religious madregah? It shows that we still have a lot to learn from the legacy of the late Rebbe.

By the way, I was very impressed by the Bikkur Cholim visit to my father in law a"h by a Satmar woman. She brought snacks and food for him to enjoy on Shabbos!

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 10:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
Insider Says:

To #12: History is truth.

Kastner story is made up Zionist propaganda.

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 10:44 PM Mark Levin Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Thousands come together but two brothers can't even talk to each other or attend events together let alone each other's simchas. Rav Yoel was undoubtedly lshem shomayim. Now?????????

Right, because everyone in your family loves each other???

Dont blame the great uncle for the nephews.

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 10:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
TexasJew Says:

How does everyone find their hats after shul on Shabbos?
Not only Satmar but every cossid with a shtreimal. I never figured this out.

I guess all yall texans down yonder are all able to find your there 10 gallon hats after davening?

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 10:49 PM Mark Levin Says:

Reply to #15  
PrettyBoyFloyd Says:

To all of you commenting on my comment, calling a fellow yid "Amuleik" is a funny way of showing "love" yet concern for that person.
No one has to convince anyone that the Lubavitcher Rebbe loved every Jew Yiye Mi Shiye. Yet you and all Satmerers always feel the need to convince everyone that the Satmer Rebbe really did love every Yid. I'm not convinced. And yes, I own and have read many times an original (1967) Al Hagiula V'Al Hatmurah.

Satmar bikur cholim, may you never need it.

Case closed!

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 10:49 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #14  
TexasJew Says:

How does everyone find their hats after shul on Shabbos?
Not only Satmar but every cossid with a shtreimal. I never figured this out.

Very interesting, you can't figure this out, and you're a maven enough to comment on issues which you definitely won't figure out?
But it sounds that the chasidish community (and maybe the entire frum community) is really strange to you, so why wouldn't you pop over and get to know them a little closer, no-one will bite you

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 11:39 PM hashomer Says:

The Kastner story is on no way made up propaganda. I personally know a woman who was saved on his train. To say its made up is a libel and bearing false witness. The Satmerer Rav may have been the holiest Jew since Moshe, but why attack the Zionists, the only militarily successful Yidden in 1900 years, and Israel, which obviously HaShem has granted to exist? I think it is due to the abject embarrassment many Chasidishe rabbonim felt after the Churban, that they did NOTHING to save their fellow Yiddin, while the Zionists offered the only resistance to the hitlerites, and then created HaEretz.

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 Aug 03, 2013 at 11:46 PM PeaceNow Says:

So sad to see the brothers of the satmer dynasty be enemies. Then again it is not surprising since they both spread anti Israel information. I've met with satmer hassids who told me they are against Israel. When I asked them To explain why they simply said because the rebee said we should think this way. Very sad...

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 02:10 AM ChachoMoe Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

I suggest you do a ill more research before commenting about the "wonderful" deeds of Rudolph Kastner and why he did..., for beginners read Ben Hecht's 'Perfidy' (which should be available online pdf download)

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 01:56 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

simple answer - Kastner was a Nazi collaborator - it was Rav Weismandl ztl who arranged for the Rebbe to be saved - even Ben Hecht, a big Zionist, wrote a whole book against Kastner - Kastner could have saved a million more Jews - he only allowed the few rabbis he brought to come along so he could fool the rest of the frum Jews in Hungary that he was going to save them, too, when he never had any intention or care to do so

27

 Aug 04, 2013 at 01:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

The answer: It never happened a lie repeated a 1000 x is still a lie.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 06:28 AM I_Am_Me Says:

Reply to #2  
ALTERG Says:

hate toward fellow Jews???? Even you will live 150 years you will never have his loveness to every jew in the world, I'm named after him & proud of that

So is my brother & he has the Sechel to be ashamed of it. The man didn't love every jew & we all know it. He was a hypocrite who caused hatred in am Yisroel, which even if its not in his Torah an avera it is in our Torah

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 06:52 AM I_Am_Me Says:

Reply to #6  
proud yoely Says:

i suggest you read some books about the holy rebbi before commenting ,the rebbis had no desire to build a chasidis army ,his mind was totally different then yours ,he had one goal to get every yid close to ribono shel olam he helped every jewish soal because he had a love to every yidishe neshumah ,he gave tremendous ammounts of tzedukah ,not for his chasidim but for every jew who asked him for help ,and even for those who didnt but he felt they need it ,and they could be mizrach,agudah didnt matter ,he had a love for israel ,the holy land he visited it prior to the war and was all over taken from the kedushah ,and he actually lived there after,but his holy heart was torn from all evirous the zionists did there they took the holy land fulll of kedushah and made it secular his heart bleeded for the ribono shel olam ,he was a shabbos in chicago to rase funds he was in debt,he made a nice furtune when he was heading home the community leaders in 1 of the suburbs told him matter of fact that the mikvah is in bad shape he didnt think twuce tok all the money handed it over back in debt,he dint plan to build a shull there ,just for the sake of hashem and his fellow jews ,

The way to love a Jew is not through hate, where hate lies love can not lie. Have you see the chabdnik ways? They are accepting of all, loving of all. They don't care if you're a Zionist or chiloni, a lot can be learned by the satmars from them. However, the satmars are to busy beating the true lovers of Jews up to actually learn from them

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 06:55 AM I_Am_Me Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

I am not a Satmar but M.O. If as you say the Rebbi A"H hated other Jews would the Satmar Bikur Cholim be so active visiting all the major hospitals in the N.Y. area bringing not only food but a smile and hope to ALL the Jewish patients? It was the Rebbi's love for all Jews that made him start the Satmar Bikur Cholim. He was against the founding of the state of Israel. He certaintly didn't hate other Jews. Before you post you should have done some research. You look foolish.

Allowing hatred of Israel & the beating up of chabdnikim is a definite sign of hate.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 06:57 AM I_Am_Me Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

More proof of his hatred of Jews that were zionists & different from him... Oh & let's not forget his forgetfulness of hakarat hatov

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 07:01 AM I_Am_Me Says:

Reply to #12  
Alter-Moshe Says:

How can VIN let post such comment ?

Because unlike your hateful comments (hey you're Satmar it's understandable) he/she didn't say anything hateful, just true. Do Satmars have a problem with truth as well?

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 07:10 AM Yossel Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

The answer: It never happened a lie repeated a 1000 x is still a lie.

Tzaddikim like the Klausenberger Rebbe z'tl and the Biksater Rebbe , z'tl, stayed with their people - for better or worse. They didn't run to Switzerland and abandon them. They're the Gedolim who showed true ahavas yisroel.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 10:15 AM DOVE1 Says:

Reply to #9  
Insider Says:

With the greatest respect and awe, there is, however, a flaw in the ointment. The Satmar Rav zt”l was saved on the 21st of Kislev 1944 by having been put on the noted Kastner Train, organized by Dr. Israel (Rudolpf) Kastner, zt”l (1906-1957), which entered neutral Switzerland. The Satmar Rav was saved by Kastner, an avowed Zionist. Later, when Kastner was accused of collaborating with the Nazis, ym”v, the Satmar Rav refues to testify or even to write a letter on his behalf. Whatever the reason of the Satmar Rav, whether religious or even mystical, this failure to acknowledge the simplest appreciation, was a colossal failure of menshlichkeit. I dare not write even one more word of this gargantuan disppointment.

Kastner didn't want the Rabbi on the train it was R Chaim Roth from Budapest that gave the money for Kastner to give to the Nazis YMS and he wanted the Rabbi on that train .the train .was stopped because the Nazis wanted more money the Rabbi send a message to R Chaim and R Chaim came up with the rest of the money .......

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 10:52 AM Insider Says:

Respectfully to: 18, 25, 27, 33, & 34:
To claim it is made-up Zionist propoganda is dilusional. What you are effectively saying is that there never was a train thabt saved Jews.
Kastner negotiated and dealt with Nazis, ymv, such as Eichman who killed Jews with less thought or hesitation of killing flies. Every time and everything Kastner had to do with the Nazis increased the probability that he would be killed. Every breath was a trade-off. Raoul Wallenberg saved more than 100,000 Jews but lost his own life in the end. He, too, risked his life in every encounter with the Nazis and the Iron Cross. Study a little history before you deny it outright.
True Tzaddikim such as Klausenberg zt"l, Bobov zt"l etc. were few and far apart, but they most certainly were radiating shining heavenly stars.
Rabbi Weissmandl zt"l and all others that tried to save Jewish lives "long distance" were not belly to belly, nose to nose, at Eichman's gunpoint. Kastner was. And, in spite of his negotiating for his priority list, he saved not only the Satmar Rebbe, but also the Satmar Rebbetzin, Rabbi Yonason Shteiff zt"l, his Rebbetzin and daughter, the Udaver Rav zt"l, etc., etc., He saved them. Period.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 11:06 AM Insider Says:

Kastner, at the real risk of his own life, having saved so many Yidden, whether they were Zionists, children, or Tzaddikim, bears out that his negotiations, that some called collaboration, was successful. And the ones that should be the absolutely most appreciative are Satmar Chassidim. Refelct for only one second: If Kastner had not exerted his efforts and risked his life, there very likely would not have been a Satmar Rebbe after the Holocaust and there would not have been a Satmar Chassidus today. Plainly, Kastner Zehuso Ugen Oleinu - Ad Hayom Mamish !!!!! (By the way, Wallenberg was also part of the final release of the Kastner Train to Switzerland. Rabbi Weissmandl, at no risk to his own life, was a very minor player in negotiating for the Satmar Rebbe - and for no-one else!!!! Kastner was the one that created the opportunity for the train at the risk of his own life, and the lives of his family members, to make the train and 1670 Jewish lives escape successfully.) If you naysayers have different a different history, or histories, please present your documented proofs.Just denying does not change true history.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 11:45 AM simpleJew120 Says:

I was raised chassidish but not satmar.... I chose my own path.. frum but not chassidish.... In need of tremendous yeshuos I decided to go to the cemetery several days before the yartzeit. I have always hear about what a true oheiv yisrael the Rebbe zt"l was.
Once I started saying Tehilim there, I know this may sound funny... but I felt the kedusha..... I felt that it was an eis ratzon.... I couldn't stop saying Tehillim...I felt this strong spiritual pull... words can not explain... As though the gates of tears were open... I davened to HaShem that in the zchus of the Rebbe, may my tearful heartfelt tefillos be accepted...
After feeling like I was going to faint from such deep sincere prayer (avodah shebalev zu tefillah... )..... I finally left and realized that I stood there for 2 full hours rather than the 20 minutes I had intended....
It was and is my sincere hope and prayer that all of klal yisrael seeshuos, refuos and may there be peace amongst all of us. As e enter into the mont of Elul, May HaShem inscribe us for us to merit the finremptioneulah shaima this year.

May the Rebbe zy"a daven to HaShem for me and all of klal yisrael.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 01:41 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #35  
Insider Says:

Respectfully to: 18, 25, 27, 33, & 34:
To claim it is made-up Zionist propoganda is dilusional. What you are effectively saying is that there never was a train thabt saved Jews.
Kastner negotiated and dealt with Nazis, ymv, such as Eichman who killed Jews with less thought or hesitation of killing flies. Every time and everything Kastner had to do with the Nazis increased the probability that he would be killed. Every breath was a trade-off. Raoul Wallenberg saved more than 100,000 Jews but lost his own life in the end. He, too, risked his life in every encounter with the Nazis and the Iron Cross. Study a little history before you deny it outright.
True Tzaddikim such as Klausenberg zt"l, Bobov zt"l etc. were few and far apart, but they most certainly were radiating shining heavenly stars.
Rabbi Weissmandl zt"l and all others that tried to save Jewish lives "long distance" were not belly to belly, nose to nose, at Eichman's gunpoint. Kastner was. And, in spite of his negotiating for his priority list, he saved not only the Satmar Rebbe, but also the Satmar Rebbetzin, Rabbi Yonason Shteiff zt"l, his Rebbetzin and daughter, the Udaver Rav zt"l, etc., etc., He saved them. Period.

You're wrong it was NOT kastner who started the negotiations, it was RABBI WEISSMANDEL and kastner along with the Zionist honchos did NOT want to go along, because it was against their motto of RAK BEDAM TIYE LANU HOARETZ after RABBI WEISSMANDEL started a tummel that's when the Zionist bosses got involved!
Why was kastner killed? Because he was about to spill out all the secrets in court against BG and the others

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 01:55 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #35  
Insider Says:

Respectfully to: 18, 25, 27, 33, & 34:
To claim it is made-up Zionist propoganda is dilusional. What you are effectively saying is that there never was a train thabt saved Jews.
Kastner negotiated and dealt with Nazis, ymv, such as Eichman who killed Jews with less thought or hesitation of killing flies. Every time and everything Kastner had to do with the Nazis increased the probability that he would be killed. Every breath was a trade-off. Raoul Wallenberg saved more than 100,000 Jews but lost his own life in the end. He, too, risked his life in every encounter with the Nazis and the Iron Cross. Study a little history before you deny it outright.
True Tzaddikim such as Klausenberg zt"l, Bobov zt"l etc. were few and far apart, but they most certainly were radiating shining heavenly stars.
Rabbi Weissmandl zt"l and all others that tried to save Jewish lives "long distance" were not belly to belly, nose to nose, at Eichman's gunpoint. Kastner was. And, in spite of his negotiating for his priority list, he saved not only the Satmar Rebbe, but also the Satmar Rebbetzin, Rabbi Yonason Shteiff zt"l, his Rebbetzin and daughter, the Udaver Rav zt"l, etc., etc., He saved them. Period.

And i forgot to add, that it was a DR FISHER from Klausenborg who's SIL was a bigshot in the Zionist movement and THIS DR FISHER was the one that persuaded his daughter and SIL to take in the satmar ruv!
But reading your comment again it's obvious YOU DON'T WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 03:45 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #15  
PrettyBoyFloyd Says:

To all of you commenting on my comment, calling a fellow yid "Amuleik" is a funny way of showing "love" yet concern for that person.
No one has to convince anyone that the Lubavitcher Rebbe loved every Jew Yiye Mi Shiye. Yet you and all Satmerers always feel the need to convince everyone that the Satmer Rebbe really did love every Yid. I'm not convinced. And yes, I own and have read many times an original (1967) Al Hagiula V'Al Hatmurah.

So YOU have LOVE issues!
You're expecting that we should love someone that commented on Aug 2nd at 1137PM which means YOU COMMENTED ON SHABBOS!

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 08:55 PM Insider Says:

Sir,
The history that you cite is a figment of your imagination. Please provide where ANY of the information you mention is published.

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 Aug 04, 2013 at 10:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #40  
rebbe123 Says:

So YOU have LOVE issues!
You're expecting that we should love someone that commented on Aug 2nd at 1137PM which means YOU COMMENTED ON SHABBOS!

Maybe he lives on the west coast (there's a 3-hour difference).

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 Aug 05, 2013 at 12:37 PM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Thousands come together but two brothers can't even talk to each other or attend events together let alone each other's simchas. Rav Yoel was undoubtedly lshem shomayim. Now?????????

They can talk in secular court and at anti Israel parades. Whenever a Chillul Hashem opportunity is there, so are they.

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 Aug 05, 2013 at 03:51 PM Shemp Says:

Reply to #43  
BarryLS1 Says:

They can talk in secular court and at anti Israel parades. Whenever a Chillul Hashem opportunity is there, so are they.

Barry but where are you?? Do you have a platform? Do you or would you give your life for it? They would/will/did. BTW isn't an Israeli gay parade a chillul Hashem? Isn't stores open on Shabbos a chillul Hasham? Isn't abortion a chillul Hashem? Isn't prostitution in ISRAEL a chillul Hashem? There are so many other chillul Hashems in the reform or conservitive movements. Where and what are your comments then?

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 Aug 05, 2013 at 07:44 PM favish Says:

Reply to #44  
Shemp Says:

Barry but where are you?? Do you have a platform? Do you or would you give your life for it? They would/will/did. BTW isn't an Israeli gay parade a chillul Hashem? Isn't stores open on Shabbos a chillul Hasham? Isn't abortion a chillul Hashem? Isn't prostitution in ISRAEL a chillul Hashem? There are so many other chillul Hashems in the reform or conservitive movements. Where and what are your comments then?

good good, you said it. what they dont observe is not chillel hashem only what they dont like that is chillel hashem

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 Aug 06, 2013 at 08:57 AM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #44  
Shemp Says:

Barry but where are you?? Do you have a platform? Do you or would you give your life for it? They would/will/did. BTW isn't an Israeli gay parade a chillul Hashem? Isn't stores open on Shabbos a chillul Hasham? Isn't abortion a chillul Hashem? Isn't prostitution in ISRAEL a chillul Hashem? There are so many other chillul Hashems in the reform or conservitive movements. Where and what are your comments then?

I always stood up for what I believe in. The bigger the platform you have, the more responsibilty comes with it. While I believe the Satmar Rebbe ZT"L was wrong and has been proven to be wrong on Israel, He was a Tzaddik. He beleived what he did but was also in a very small minority in his opinion. The son's are NOT their father and couldn't shine his shoes.

Yes, those things are a Chillul Hashem, but those people are ignorant of Torah. Are you comparing the, Chillul Shabbos, Gays and prostitues, Reform and Conservative to the brother Satmar Rebbe's? Shame on you for trying to make excuses for their bad behavior.

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 Aug 06, 2013 at 12:18 PM Shemp Says:

Reply to #46  
BarryLS1 Says:

I always stood up for what I believe in. The bigger the platform you have, the more responsibilty comes with it. While I believe the Satmar Rebbe ZT"L was wrong and has been proven to be wrong on Israel, He was a Tzaddik. He beleived what he did but was also in a very small minority in his opinion. The son's are NOT their father and couldn't shine his shoes.

Yes, those things are a Chillul Hashem, but those people are ignorant of Torah. Are you comparing the, Chillul Shabbos, Gays and prostitues, Reform and Conservative to the brother Satmar Rebbe's? Shame on you for trying to make excuses for their bad behavior.

" the Satmar Rebbe ZT"L was wrong and has been proven to be wrong on Israel"
Really how? How was he wrong on Israel. There is nothing good about this state other than the learning of Torah by yeshiva boys whom Israel is trying to stop as we speak. BTW you said "so are they". Who is the "they"? Shame on me? You are making excuses for the supposedly "ignorant of Torah". Shame on YOU! They KNOW what they are doing is wrong. They are not pygmies that came out of the jungle! They live in Israel!! They know all those things are forbidden. Give me a break.

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