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New York City councilman David Greenfield endorses Charles Hynes for Brooklyn District Attorney in Borough Park Brooklyn NY. on Aug. 8 2013 (photo by Stefano Giovannini-VINnews.com)Brooklyn, NY - New York City Councilman David G. Greenfield announced this morning outside his Borough Park district office his support for the reelection of Kings County District Attorney Charles Hynes in this September’s Democratic primary election.

Joining Greenfield were a few community leaders from the Orthodox Jewish community.

New York City councilman David Greenfield endorses Charles Hynes for Brooklyn District Attorney in Boro Park Brooklyn NY. photo by Stefano Giovannini

New York City councilman David Greenfield endorses Charles Hynes for Brooklyn District Attorney in Boro Park Brooklyn NY. photo by Stefano Giovannini

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New York City councilman David Greenfield endorses Charles Hynes for Brooklyn District Attorney in Boro Park Brooklyn NY. photo by Stefano Giovannini



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 Aug 08, 2013 at 02:05 PM Maven Says:

This is a tough election decision to make.
On one hand many in the orthodox community are extremely upset at Mr.Hynes how he handled the Weberman case.Calling a community "mafia" and throwing a man in jail for life.Even if true what that person did as an observant Jews we are not allowed to put away a man.By voting for Mr.Hynes we show our support for a man who threw away a fellow yid in prison.

But on the other hand we have a whole bunch of lowlife frum and non frum activist who made it as a life mission to accuse,defame,slander the entire worldwide orthodox community as child abusers.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't lock away more fellow Yidden.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't arrest rabbonim who say that Mesira is not allowed.They are in the forefront to kick out Hynes therefore we need to vote for Hynes just to show those activist will not lead us.Many of those activist have extremely fowl profane language.
Dam if you do dam if you don't.
Will VIN have the guts to post my comment?

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 02:06 PM Facts1 Says:

Our choice is between bad and worse.

He has hurt many yidden in the last couple of years. Arresting fathers in front of their children for cases that will fall apart, and pursuing charges against others that have already been shamed, did time.

On other hand what's the alternative?

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 02:09 PM shalomke Says:

I assume that the reason for making such a production out of this endorsement is to counter Dov Hikind's endorsement of Mike Thompson.

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 03:03 PM Chaim! Says:

Reply to #1  
Maven Says:

This is a tough election decision to make.
On one hand many in the orthodox community are extremely upset at Mr.Hynes how he handled the Weberman case.Calling a community "mafia" and throwing a man in jail for life.Even if true what that person did as an observant Jews we are not allowed to put away a man.By voting for Mr.Hynes we show our support for a man who threw away a fellow yid in prison.

But on the other hand we have a whole bunch of lowlife frum and non frum activist who made it as a life mission to accuse,defame,slander the entire worldwide orthodox community as child abusers.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't lock away more fellow Yidden.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't arrest rabbonim who say that Mesira is not allowed.They are in the forefront to kick out Hynes therefore we need to vote for Hynes just to show those activist will not lead us.Many of those activist have extremely fowl profane language.
Dam if you do dam if you don't.
Will VIN have the guts to post my comment?

To Post #1
It is clear to me that you are either a twisted mind or extremely ignorant about certain facts regarding the Weberman case (and you most probably don't begin to comprehend the damage that Sexual abuse causes to the victim)

If you really care to know how little sense your post makes,
Here are some hair-raising details that were admitted and or proven at the Wbmn trial that you obviously didn't hear about.
1) He violated Hilchas Yichud on a daily basis.
2) He took the victim upstate on a 15 hr trip (which he tried to deny on the stand but ended up admitting to it when the DA showed the bills as prove)
3) Lingerie purchases on his credit card bill (not made by his family members)
4) Unsupervised sessions lasting many hrs.
5) More of his victims have spoken to Rabbi Yakov Horowitz (If he was making it up you can be rest-assure the Wbmn family would file a Deformation lawsuit against him)
And much much more.
For you to make as if Wbmn was a Lamed Vav Tzadik when in fact it was proven that he was far from one is simply ridiculous and very painful to his many victims.

And the way the Willi Community acted towards the victim & family "Mafia" is an understatement

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 03:15 PM Facts1 Says:

Reply to #3  
shalomke Says:

I assume that the reason for making such a production out of this endorsement is to counter Dov Hikind's endorsement of Mike Thompson.

What are you talking about? One is running or Mayor, the other for DA.

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 03:22 PM To Post 1 Says:

Reply to #1  
Maven Says:

This is a tough election decision to make.
On one hand many in the orthodox community are extremely upset at Mr.Hynes how he handled the Weberman case.Calling a community "mafia" and throwing a man in jail for life.Even if true what that person did as an observant Jews we are not allowed to put away a man.By voting for Mr.Hynes we show our support for a man who threw away a fellow yid in prison.

But on the other hand we have a whole bunch of lowlife frum and non frum activist who made it as a life mission to accuse,defame,slander the entire worldwide orthodox community as child abusers.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't lock away more fellow Yidden.They are upset that Mr.Hynes doesn't arrest rabbonim who say that Mesira is not allowed.They are in the forefront to kick out Hynes therefore we need to vote for Hynes just to show those activist will not lead us.Many of those activist have extremely fowl profane language.
Dam if you do dam if you don't.
Will VIN have the guts to post my comment?

From which Planet are you coming from???

For all the vicious Intimidation & Rishas that the Webermans supporters did against the victim's family the title Mafia is still gold.

They closed the husbands store,
They opened another phone book directory business just to destroy the father's Parnasa.
They held a massive fundraising event even with many leaders and Rabanim knowing about Weberman's behavior from over the years. And the Rishas went on and on.

And for the record, our children are much safer today all to the credit of the activists that pulled the matter from deep under that dusty old rug.
The activists feel that Hynes became too friendly over the years with many Jewish leaders and therefor he didn't prosecute & cut sweet deals with some serious abusers from our communities, with the Weberman case it was too strong for him to do the same (Don't forget, The DA interviewed more of his victims)

Please educate yourself before posting a bunch of non-sense!!

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 03:30 PM yaakov doe Says:

I've known Joe Hynes for ovber 20 years and strongly support him. He is a moral religious man who speaks honestly, even when people don't like to hear what he has to say. Hynes has also been very accomodating to the needs of his frum staff members and understands our community. I may not agree with him on everything, but he's one of the few elected official whom I respect, and I've dealt with dozens of them.

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 03:47 PM Maven Says:

Yep,the activists are out of the woodwork in full force defending their tactics.

Like it or not MOST fellow Jews will not vote for whom you chevra pick.We know many of those activists who according to the gemorah are Menivolim.

Its is plain simple:
According to the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim there is no bigger sin than Mesirah.
What should be done to a Moser is clearly stated which has no comparison to any other sin.
Not Rabbi Horowitz or Rabbi Rosenberg can pasken delicate stuff like Mesirah.They are nothing more than ACTIVISTS. Things like these like it or not must be paskend by qualified Poskim on case by case basis.
You activists are not out to help children.You are out for Jewish blood.

Activists,make note, A bazem vos kart vert shmotzig.Transaltion; a broom that sweeps gets dirty.No matter how clean you started you are all dirty by now.Dwelling in schmutz makes you schmotzig

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 04:05 PM Chaim! Says:

Reply to #8  
Maven Says:

Yep,the activists are out of the woodwork in full force defending their tactics.

Like it or not MOST fellow Jews will not vote for whom you chevra pick.We know many of those activists who according to the gemorah are Menivolim.

Its is plain simple:
According to the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim there is no bigger sin than Mesirah.
What should be done to a Moser is clearly stated which has no comparison to any other sin.
Not Rabbi Horowitz or Rabbi Rosenberg can pasken delicate stuff like Mesirah.They are nothing more than ACTIVISTS. Things like these like it or not must be paskend by qualified Poskim on case by case basis.
You activists are not out to help children.You are out for Jewish blood.

Activists,make note, A bazem vos kart vert shmotzig.Transaltion; a broom that sweeps gets dirty.No matter how clean you started you are all dirty by now.Dwelling in schmutz makes you schmotzig

Post 8 I disagree with you!

Many Rabanim have already paskend that an abuser has a din Rodeph! Mesira doesn't come into the picture. Your ignorance and insensitivity to victims of abuse will not stop any1 from seeking justice and keeping our children safe in our circles.

Like it or not, These days abusers are thinking twice before preying on their next victim, all Thanks to the activists that are not intimidated by twisted Halacha quotes coming from ppl like you, and continue to do what's right!

Enough is enough, the games are over!

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 04:51 PM Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 04:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Google it. Every day of the week, people are convicted of manslaughter and murder 2 and get less than 12 years jail. Both the Rubashkin and Webberman sentences were far excessive when considering the punishment for more severe crimes.and

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 04:52 PM Liberty Says:

He has had people rearrested to introduce new charges on the day of their childs wedding, he has a hart of stone!

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 05:05 PM Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 06:13 PM Open ur eyes Says:

Reply to #10  
Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

Reply to comment 10

Webberman acted as a community Therapist/counselor without any sort of qualifications other than a Sweet manipulating mouth. Which means he was he was an imminent threat to society. So even according to you he had a clear din Rodeph.

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 06:07 PM Shully Says:

Reply to #13  
Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

Reply to Post 13,

Just that u have the facts, it landed up in court thanks to Weberman himself, when he got the victims first Bf arrested.

He played a dirty game and lost!

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 08:59 PM sheepheadsbayyid Says:

Reply to #15  
Shully Says:

Reply to Post 13,

Just that u have the facts, it landed up in court thanks to Weberman himself, when he got the victims first Bf arrested.

He played a dirty game and lost!

interesting no cry of MESIRA against weberman for that. But screams of MESIRA for victims of molesters what a twisted community it is

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 07:51 PM Not Mesira Says:

Reply to #13  
Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

You claim there was no Halachic backing in the Weberman case.
Let me ask you a question, if you were a respected Rov in Willy would you have gotten involved?
With all the intimidation threats terrorism and blackmail that went on no normal Rov in his right mind would have the Guts to back the victim.

The only one that was not afraid to talk the truth was R' Yankel Horowitz, I respect him for that!
He spoke to more victims and didn't stand for any nonsense. It was clear as day that we were dealing with a real Rodeph. The biggest prove that the Rabbanim in Williamsburg knew the sad truth is that they didn't even call R' Horowitz to challenge him in any way.

Crooked Halacha can confuse some ppl sometimes but not everyone all the time!

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 Aug 08, 2013 at 07:59 PM Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

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 Aug 09, 2013 at 12:09 AM Moshe Says:

Reply to #18  
Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

To #9

You are not exactly right - even those rabonim who entertain mesira it is only in a case that is current and that there is raglaim ledavar that something is currently going on which must be stopped. NO MESIRA IS ALLOWED FOR RESTITUTION AND PAYBACK - the torah's allowance to preemptively kill a rodef is only when there is a known imminent danger.

The mesira in webermans case had no halachic backing - as no proof of an imminent threat was discussed or presented.

So regardless of what you think about weberman - as jews - this should not have landed in court

I'm reading your comment and wondering why the Weberman issue is a Rabinical or Halacha matter?

If you are sick you go to a doctor, if you need to buy groceries you go to the supermarket, and if you believe your child was abused by someone you go to the police.

What in the world will a Rav do if you reported the abuse it to him?

Please enlighten me!

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 Aug 09, 2013 at 08:08 AM finenies Says:

There is 1 point what we are missing in this whole story of Greenfield Endorses DA Hynes, The whole reason why he's endorsing him have nothing to do with what's good for the community, nothing with if its right what Hynes is doing or not, If you should report sexual abuse or not.
The ONLY reason why he's endorsing Hynes is because Assemblyman Dov Hikind endorsed Ken Thompson.
Its all about stupid politics who should be stronger.

Let's have it all clear it have nothing with what's good for us/community its just Hikind endorsed 1 thing I will do the opposite.

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 Aug 09, 2013 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Facts1 Says:

What are you talking about? One is running or Mayor, the other for DA.

I think he or she meant Ken Thompson who is running for D.A. and Dov Hikind is endorsing. Bill Thompson is running for mayor, there is no Mike Thompson running

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