New York – At the request of Rabbis in Israel, American Rabbis have asked that Jews in New York should join in a large Prayer gathering that will take place on Water Street in lower Manhattan this Sunday (March 9) beginning at 2:00 p.m.
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According to a press release By Agudath Israel, The gathering will echo this past Sunday’s mass prayer event in Jerusalem, which brought out hundreds of thousands of Jews in response to the Israeli government’s ongoing attempt to Draft Israeli Yeshiva students into the Army.
The New York gathering, which will include a special area for women who wish to participate, will begin with ‘Mincha’ and consist of the recital of Tehillim and special prayers in unison.
Buses are expected to bring participants to the gathering location from communities and institutions outside the immediate New York area, but New York residents are being urged to take public transportation to the site, which is well serviced by the subway system, and to not attempt to drive into Manhattan for the gathering.
Agudath Israel stressed in their press release, that although they are providing information regarding the planned mass prayer event, the gathering is not being organized under the auspices of Agudath Israel of America.
Anyone who attend this is a traitor to Eretz Yisroel and the Jewish people. Period.
Umm, isnt this a re-hash of the asifa that was planned & cancelled a few weeks back? How will this be different?
Judging from the photos of the even in Israel, there was little (if any) support from the chassidish groups. Will it be just the opposite in NYC?
What is the goal of such a protest? Just for protests sake?
“Agudath Israel stressed in their press release, that although they are providing information regarding the planned mass prayer event, the gathering is not being organized under the auspices of Agudath Israel of America. “
Oh, they are afraid to take stand??????? Is it not PC to do?
It seems the Agudah is trying to have it both ways, saying here are all the details you need to attend this event, including the endorsement of individual “gedolim” if not the MOetzes, but we are not sponsoring it.
A little disingenuous?
dont people have anything to do with their lives
Of course we need to be united against the draft but the reasoning among Charedim differs.Aguda,Shas and the rest of the frum parties are pro Zionism pro Israel. Their yeshivas and Kollelim WERE financed by the Israeli government.Lapid and Lipman claim “enough is enough” you are sucking the economy dry its time to give back by joining the IDF.
Those who follow the Edah Hachareidis and Satmar don’t participate in the elections refuse money for yeshivos and Kollelim don’t want to join the IDF becuase a frum Jew does not belong there.Torah learning has nothing to do with this issue.The cop out for not joining the IDF becuase of Torah learning is being used ONLY by the frum Zionist.
some backround info
1. its ” not ” under any one org. similar to the one in eretz yisroel
2. the moetzes got clear urging from maran rav shteinman & rav chaim shlita to make this tefilla just as they fully supported the e”y one
3. the 3 conditions were and are – no dais its not a time for kovod/ no speeches its expected that each rav will speak to his kehilla on shabbos/ that this is NOT a machoh – klal yisroel koach is bepeh
4. last time when the chassidishe rebbes wanted the gathering it was to be a protest and rav shteinman was not really in agreement
rav shteinman shlita is ” leshitoso” that the fact that hashem is letting a few heads of state turn the torah world upside down is a ” patch” fun himmel and we must turn our attentio to the kol hashem ( lapid and bibi are the shluchim)
5. its 2 pm at water street
6. regardless of what you feel to daven with a 100,000 people ( or whatever number it will be) is a huge hisorerus
7 the conference call with the moetzes was on wed – it took till shabbos to get the permit
all the chassidishe were there in e”y even the eida not sure what pictures you are looking at – bring your children it will be a time for you to transmit the koach of emuna & tefila
the moetzes & agudah is an address that many look to for guidance they are the ones being ” meaged” the sefardim chassidim….why poke fun
mesirah and chillul Hashem
Free event for bigger minyan. Surely Israel will long be remembered, right? Doesn’t a minyan in the synagogue work just as good and most likely better than one at Metlife Stadium? We the segemented communities do not think you need to be seen to be heard. Unless you think a front page NY Post article is more favorable than Hashem’s true Hand. Curious, why do the neo-destined chassids do the asifa mass convention? Could it be they are afraid of dying as a group? In that case, perhaps Hashem’s Angels’ writing is already on the walls. Torah judaism may not likely be meant to endure every age as a composite decree of limited authority in a game of check your neighbor before yourself complicity. Torah is authority, not conversational intrigue.
How brave of American Chareidem for not wanting their brothers in EY to serve in the army ! Where is their skin in the game ??
This is what happens when the Chasidim don’t teach modern Jewish History to their yungerliet. These healthy young men have no idea of the holocaust, no idea of how Israel was founded. They believe that the world started with their date of birth. The break between the Chasidim and the rest and incidently the majority of Yidden is now complete.
Sorry, to me it looks like a great party. The atmosphere seemed to be partylike for most of the young people there. I might even think there was a tremendous amount of bitul Torah. I can find no information about where and when but it probably falls during work hours. I would like to be able to do all the things non workers do but I can’t because I work.
this is getting crazier by the day….this is a chilul hashem….the people behind this is the harcore anti Zionist chasidim i.e. satmare and the hardcore litvishe…most normal people in between do not support this at all.
who is sponsoring it?
I work very hard and pay taxes. I go to work in cold, snow, get up in the dark and return home in the dark. My money is paying to support these leeches and I resent it. They have all the time in the world to protest, drink vodka and who knows what else?
I hope and pray that it will be with Big success,
I am sure that in heaven its surely making a big roishem and bring moshiach quicker
How history is falsified. The Satmarer escaped with the help of the “tyzionym goyishe Sochnuth”, represented by Rudolf Kastner and bought ticket arranged by the deep pockets of Satmarer Chasidim and so did the Belzer Rebbe. However trainloads and trainloads of men with peyes and black hats and small children and their mothers but did not have deep pockets and went to the gas chambers of Birkenau. Yes, these treifene Tzionym helped two Rebbes to escape and fought the Nazis from El-Alamein to Northern Italy. Of course fighting causes casualties and we want to avoid that instead we argue about a suge and dance a mitzvah tanz. Now fight to the death for avoding the draft. Reminds of an Italian proverb. Se il nemico vieno andremo di la e se il nemico non viene , combattermo fino alla morto. Translation “if the enemy comes here we go there and if the enemy does not come we will fight until death. The modern day yeshivishe heroes
This whole thing is so embarrassing.
I wish to clarify post #20 .
Some photos show people that were very serious and were focused on the issue, not fun. Most seem to just be having fun.
The decision of whether this was bitul Torah should be made by the RBSO. I can only say what it seemed to be. There were many Gedolim there but I do think the young happy chevra were not on the same level of seriousness and learning as the Gedolim.
feel so good 2 b a cheilek in such a klal yisruel where we all go biachdis and pray 2 hashem 2 b mivatel all shlechta gizeiros, chasidish, litvish, sfardish and so on
Why must dirty laundry be aired in public?
I am not going if R’ Lezer Ginsburg is leading the tehillim. I will be able to hear him all the way to Brooklyn.
Eventually the chareidim are going to have to compromise somewhat to save the masses. Why can’t they give up those who are not in yeshiva anymore, those who drink coffee all day and those who are working but are signed up as part of the yeshiva. Let them peel potatos, work in hospitals wash the floors. Why are they given a free ride and why are the yeshivas protecting and lying for them while the hesder boys have to give up 3 years of their lives.
In respect for my hesder cousins I will not attend this asifa
If the reform and the reform-lite (mizrachists) on here are going bonkers, it must be a good thing.
We have gedolim and they decide what’s right and wrong.
I wish i could recall the source, but I’m sure every one knows of the famous story where the Satmar Rebbe, R’ Yoel, Z”L was approached by a reporter regarding Israel. The gist of the response of the Rebbe was that he was not negative regarding the medina. After the reporter left the shamas was confused as he knew the Rebbe’s staunch anti-medina position.
The Rebbe informed that his vehement anti-medina position notwithstanding, when interacting with the outside world we can’t afford to show a untied front in support of Israel.
Ve hamayvin yavin
bad enough this happens in israel but bring this idiocy to the usa what a chilul hashem . so typical of the agudah hope no one participates in this travesty
This is all a crock. These kids just want a free ride. If all of these kids were trully sitting in learning the world would be a better place (go by any beit midrash and you will see them hanging out outside, smoking and on there phones – many and not learning nor can they). Sof, sof, they don’t have the guts or fortitude to go through toranut, crawl through mud and take a 40 km hike with full battle gear. We all served and our kids are serving. We went in “frum” and came out the same way. You can daven three times a day and even find time for some learning. Occasionally get home for Shabbat and usually get home for the chagim. And want in on a secret? There is even some kiruv work going on at a very basic leve, chayal to chayal.
1. If for no other reason, simply for “Dina d’malchusa dina”, anyone who lives in Israel has to obey the law & register for the draft. If the chareidim have issues of “shmad” & tznius the issues can be addressed. There would be enough frum people in the military to “protect” these “vulnerable children”. Claiming that the Medineh is treif & continuing to live there under the IDF protection is hypocrisy.
2. You can’t expect the non-frum to accept that Charedim are doing more than enough to protect the country by learning; remember (this is a little tricky), we are talking about the non-frum who don’t believe in the Toireh protecting everyone. So how is it fair to tell the non-frum to keep on sacrificing, and we’ll do the “real” protection by learning?
In Krias Shma, V’huhavtu seems to command us to learn all the time. V’huyeh then talks about our crops growing if we keep the mitzvoth. But if everyone is learning, who is plowing and gathering? I once heard pshat that V’huhavtu is singular, talking to the Yuchid. An individual can make the decision to forgo Gashmius & only do Avoideh. V’huhu is addressed to the Rabbim; the Rabbim need parnasah & need to go to work.
My family works and these kids smoke, drink vodka, and dance. AND I HAVE TO PAY TAXES FOR THIS??????
They each have a cell phone and call internationally. Who pays since no one works?