Kiryas Joel, NY – Hasidic Jews Seeking To Expand Enclave Worries Some Residents

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    Michael Egan, left, and Emily Convers of United Monroe pose on Tuesday, July 1, 2014, in Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Kiryas Joel is a tightly packed Hasidic enclave surrounded by suburbia in the Hudson Valley. A proposal to grow the village by annexing 500 acres of adjacent land has heated up longstanding tensions involving the insular, traditional community. (AP Photo/Mike Groll)Kiryas Joel, NY – Kiryas Joel is a fast-growing island of ultra-Orthodox Satmar Hasidic Jews in a suburban stretch of New York’s Hudson Valley. Sidewalks are busy with mothers in head coverings pushing strollers, and kids’ plastic trikes seem to outnumber cars.

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    Now a petition to expand the densely settled village by annexing 507 acres of leafy lots nearby has heightened tensions with some suburban neighbors. While expansion could help a village bursting at the seams, there are fears it would lead to unwanted increases in apartment complexes, homes and traffic.

    “The quality of life here will be completely destroyed,” said John Allegro, standing on his family’s wooded 1.5-acre lot, which he said would be semi-circled by annexed land. Allegro said he moved farther from New York City to escape that kind of hubbub.

    Kiryas Joel was founded within the town of Monroe in the mid-1970s by members of the Satmar sect seeking a more tranquil setting than Brooklyn, about 60 miles south. Men here wear black suits with brimmed hats and women dress modestly. Marriages come early and families are large, which has helped the population grow from about 12,000 in 1994 to around 22,000 now. An average of more than two babies are born here a day.

    Multifamily apartment buildings, many three stories tall, are packed into the 1.1-square-mile village to keep up with the growing population. Village trustee Jacob Freund said that in one area, 180 families live on 3 acres, a density he worries is unsafe.

    “When you come over here in two years, you’ll see 200 units,” Freund said on a drive this week through the village, pointing to an undeveloped patch. “This is the last parcel in the village.”

    Some of the Satmar live just outside the village, where more restrictive zoning typically requires a single-family home to be on at least 1.5 acres. A number of these out-of-village residents signed a petition requesting that their land become part of the village. An environmental review of the potential effects must be conducted before the village and the town can consider the residents’ petition, which was filed Dec. 27.
    Jacob Freund poses with his daughter Tziry outside their home on Tuesday, July 1, 2014, in Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Kiryas Joel is a tightly packed Hasidic enclave surrounded by suburbia in the Hudson Valley. A petition to expand the village by annexing 500 acres of leafy lots nearby has heightened tensions with some suburban neighbors. There are fears it would lead to unwanted increases in people, homes and traffic. (AP Photo/Mike Groll)
    A group of residents called United Monroe, which includes Allegro and others, has been raising alarms about the landowners’ annexation request, much of it covering undeveloped acres. They argue looser village zoning could usher in a new wave of high-density development that will stress sewers, hurt air quality and create a “dramatic change in the rural landscape.”

    “The reality is that it changes everything, fundamentally,” Monroe resident Michael Egan said.

    The annexation issue arose amid friction in other Orthodox populations in the region and after Kiryas Joel separately challenged zoning restrictions in neighboring Woodbury.

    Freund insists villagers are trying to live in peace and follow the customs of their ancestors. “Because we’re looking different, they’re fighting us,” Freund said. Similarly, Kiryas Joel school superintendent Joel Petlin said that while the village generates heated debate, officials elsewhere in the county quickly passed resolutions supporting proposals for large casino resorts and allowed the expansion of the nearby outlet mall.

    “For shopping, for uses that they’d like, for casinos, they don’t seem to have the same analysis for traffic, they’re not as concerned,” he said.
    A Hasidic woman walks with her children on Tuesday, July 1, 2014, in Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Kiryas Joel is a tightly packed Hasidic enclave surrounded by suburbia in the Hudson Valley. A petition to expand the village by annexing 500 acres of leafy lots nearby has heightened tensions with some suburban neighbors. There are fears it would lead to unwanted increases in people, homes and traffic. (AP Photo/Mike Groll)
    United Monroe chairwoman Emily Convers said she’s frustrated that critics’ complaints are dismissed as bigotry. The issue isn’t hate, she said, but abuse of the democratic process by a politically influential village.

    “You stand up to it and you’re called a bigot. And it’s tough. It’s really tough,” she said. “It’s like a PR war.”

    Kiryas Joel voters have proved to be a disciplined bloc who can be helpful to elected officials. In November, Harley Doles beat Convers for supervisor for the town of Monroe with overwhelming support from Kiryas Joel. In one election district, Doles received all but one of the 826 votes cast for the office.

    Doles said he is not beholden to the bloc and said the annexation process will play out according to state law, which requires the environmental review. Whether that review will be led by the village or the town is a politically charged decision being considered by Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s administration’s Department of Environment Conservation.

    Still unclear is how a lengthy process Doles compared to a “political hot potato” will play out, especially if there’s litigation. The only certainty for the village is more babies.

    “The growth here is inevitable,” Petlin said.


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    deremes
    deremes
    9 years ago

    I don’t live there, But what is interesting to me is the fact that they have no concern about the 5 new casino bids proposed last week for the area, hmmmmmm…!!!? sounds funny. doesn’t it?

    9 years ago

    I suppose the idea of not having an unsupportable number of children has not occurred to anyone in KJ. Or newer families, could, you know… move somewhere else.

    9 years ago

    וכאשר יענו אותו, כן ירבה וכן יפרוץ

    9 years ago

    America’s version of the West Bank played out in exurban N.Y. I say annex it, take it over & bulldoze the treif off our land.

    Raphael_Kaufman
    Raphael_Kaufman
    9 years ago

    The ideal solution would be for all Satmars to return to their ancestral homeland, now in Rumania. Actually, it’s not a bad idea. Rumania is a member of the EU so free travel is possible, the cost of living is relatively low and they would be welcome back among their former neighbors.

    9 years ago

    How beautiful to see the town blossom like this…. this place was created from scratch…

    5TResident
    Noble Member
    5TResident
    9 years ago

    Everyone is worried about their neighborhood becoming the “next Lawrence”.

    9 years ago

    What all frum Jews need to do is have more kids by marrying at 16. This will solve our problems. We will become the number one as we overtake the reform,conservative,open and modern orthodox heretics. The faster we increase the faster there will be peace in the Middle East. Right now in israel in first grades there are fifty percent chareidim That means in aere 12 years more than 50 percent of israel will be chareidim. The Arabs hate secular Jews because of their atheism,gay marriage,abortions on demand and western lifestyle.

    PaulinSaudi
    PaulinSaudi
    9 years ago

    How much of this is just suburban people against any sort of sprawl, now that they got theirs? There may be evil intent here, or perhaps not.

    Granny
    Granny
    9 years ago

    The Satmars moved out of Williamsburg because they wanted a more suburban area to live in. Their non-Jewish neighbors are there for the same reason. These codes for population density are there to maintain particular standards of space and nature. The

    Secular
    Secular
    9 years ago

    VIN Headline June 6th, 2014 : 93% of Kiryas Joel Residents on Medicaid.

    VIN Headline November 29th 2011 : Child Poverty on the Rise, Kiryas Joel one of the poorest in America.

    VIN Headline April 22nd 2011: School District to Force State for Medicaid money.

    Where does Kiryas Joel get the money to annex 500 acres of land ?

    Insider
    Insider
    9 years ago

    Ladies and Gentlemen: We have laws on the books. Those laws were enacted for the benefit of all residents. The law also determines who is a resident. Using those laws determines further legislation. There are also methods of changing the original laws. If every development is conducted according to existing laws on the books, no one has any right to complain. If someone wants to change the laws, by all means that person should go through proper channels, regardless of motivation. We are fortunate to live in a democracy. Calling each other names is not acceptable social behavior. People have a right to use their properties in any way that see fit, as long as that use is in conformity with existing legislation. Just a short note: women and teen-agers in Kiryas Joel do not have or drive cars. Kiryas Yoel represents 52% of all public transportation use in all of the county. Claims of traffic overload are unfounded. Plainly, everything that is happening in Kiryas Joel is open to public review. What we are witnessing is democracy in action,

    9 years ago

    We are in Golus. Even in places like Kiryat Yoel where it is really beautiful, the surrounding residents are starting to put pressure on the Jews. That’s the way G-D wants, that we shouldn’t get to comfortable here in the Diaspora.We should miss the fact that the Moshiach hasn’t arrived yet. Maybe as some other poster wrote we Jews should move to Montana. But then again after a while…. ………….the same problems would start all over again and again and again etc. etc. etc. Jews after 50-60 years in one place have to move again.