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Jerusalem - A Controversial Israeli Charedi Rabbi says rockets fired toward Tel Aviv by Palestinian terrorists is a punishment by god for holding the Gay pride parade in its city on June 13.

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In his speech given Tuesday night, Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak said “This “punishment is a blessing, because to atone for sins.” “What is happening now - the punishment for what we allow ourselves too much. Precisely because of this, the Almighty sends us Hamas. Violence is rife with the land of Israel,”

As a confirmation of his words, Rabbi Yitzhak gave the example of the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers. According to him, killing them on the day of Tel Aviv pride parade is not coincidental.



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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:44 PM HeshyEmes Says:

Certainly the Gay Parade was an abomination; but to say that that was Hashem's reason for the killing of the children; how does he know? Did the Ribono Shel Oilem tell him? I'm sure that Amnon Yitzchok believes what he says, but it seems presumptuous when ANYONE claims to speak for G-d. There are no recognized Neviim today.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:47 PM hamevakesh Says:

I guess he knows why these boys were killed Good thing Hashem has him to tell him what to do

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:49 PM Taxbucky Says:

Does Amnon feel better now?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Sadly, more of our kinder may commit suicide because of his crazy words. And his followers believe him even though they have gay children.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:51 PM His words have a strong meaning Says:

We all be leave that this land "Eretz Yosroel" belongs to Hashem. When the people in Eretz Yisroel behave like the people did in "סדום" acting dirty Gay. Then Hashem will Punish like he did to Sedom.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:55 PM JamesDean Says:

Can someone ask R' Amnon to post a סלפי video when he discusses this kind of thing with Shomayim? It would probably improve his credibility.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:55 PM Ari Says:

Another know it all. Hashem came to him and told him exactly why this tragedy happened...

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 01:55 PM posaikacharon Says:

bh there are still some leaders among us who are not afraid to speak their minds loud and clear, without trying to be politicaly correct. if he is right or wrong....only hashem knows. but he is entightled to (and possibly, as a leader for multitudes, obligated to) offer his opinion!! on the chance that there is some truth to his words, we should not dare ignore them......

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:02 PM Anonymous Says:

This makes the most sense

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:04 PM Michael BarDaniel Says:

Why does God get a lowercase 'g' and gay gets an uppercase 'G'?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:10 PM barbaabba Says:

Never call this clown a "Rabbi"
NO ONE can say with certainty what G-D is doing and why
I'm sick and tired of them so called "Rabbis" who feel it is their duty to make a mockery out of the Torah and its real scholars

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:11 PM viess Says:

"Controversial chariedi Israeli Rabbi" wow OK if you wanna say so do so...
Its clearly a message from hashem and a punishment, that's nothing to argue about. Harav Amnan says nothing about that "it" happened "cause" of this!! I just said its a punishment, and that's very understandable!!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:12 PM anonymous613 Says:

The 3 Israeli boys HY"D were kidnapped on June 12. The parade was June 13th. I don't know of any source for HKB"H punishing someone before he/she commits the aveira.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:15 PM Mikey Says:

Well for the most part we are anti-gay...

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:19 PM SandmanNY Says:

If the rockets pointed toward Tel Aviv are because of the gay parade, what do the rockets falling in the south on Sderot and other areas mean? This is an example of how correlation isn't causation. Just because two things happen in a common time or space doesn't mean one caused the other.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:26 PM Anonymous Says:

I don't believe you are actually debating this person's stupid statements.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:28 PM RebKlemson Says:

everything is cuz of the gays

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:28 PM bennyt Says:

I thought that the Satmar rebbe cornered the market on knowing why Hashem does things.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:29 PM TruthIsIt Says:

Finally, someone is saying it like it is !

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:35 PM OpenMindedJew Says:

Well, woo hoo. God came to me to and revealed the secrets of the universe to me. I'll make millions just step right up and tell me what you want to know.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:37 PM GevalDigeh Says:

Him and satmar rebbe should go competition on who knows better what Hashem is doing and why he's doing!!!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:37 PM mythoughts Says:

I think its because of gay people not dressing tzniusdik while talking losh horah about rabbonim. Prove me wrong.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:42 PM yidmonsey1 Says:

Let's not throw put the baby with the bathwater. What he is saying ... Re the gay parade is certainly correct. But the quid pro quo? Does he have a direct line.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:56 PM sambatyon Says:

Reply to #14  
anonymous613 Says:

The 3 Israeli boys HY"D were kidnapped on June 12. The parade was June 13th. I don't know of any source for HKB"H punishing someone before he/she commits the aveira.

You are going by the secular date but in the Hebrew date it was the same day

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:05 PM commonsense99 Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

I don't believe you are actually debating this person's stupid statements.

agreed

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:10 PM momma Says:

Read what Haahem Yisborach said to Moshe in Parshat Haazeenu perek 32. There you will see why this is happening.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:15 PM anonymous Says:

Maybe this heiliger rav has answer for the burning, gassing , shooting of a total of 1 million Jewish children by the Nazis, the Einsatzgruppen in Russia and Galicia, and in the gas chambers in Birkenau, Minsk, Treblinka and Belcez

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:19 PM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #19  
bennyt Says:

I thought that the Satmar rebbe cornered the market on knowing why Hashem does things.

They both cornered the market on stupidity. As if they have a direct line and speak without any concern for whom it harms.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:25 PM CommonSense Says:

How does this even make the news?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:29 PM 12 more years Says:

Rabbi Amnon Yitzchok is a million per cent correct. The Bostoner rebbe of har nof said same thing last week. Many of the commentators here are from atheistic blogs who come to make fun of Torah values. The fact is that the gay tel aviv celebration began a week before the Friday gay parade. They were kidnapped Thursday and killed Thursday but the gay flags were flying all over tel aviv. Friday morning as the gay parade began is when the news broke all over israel about the kidnapping. Did they cancel the parade. NO. They could of sent the hundreds of police to search for the boys instead of having them hang out Friday night on the beaches of tel aviv spitting on the Torah with their immoral behavior. We chareidim are also guilty. We allow a gay parade in yerushalayim the last ten years and have not done much. Rav Amnon thank you for having guts while everyone is fast asleep. I wish you would become prime minister.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:31 PM Anonymous Says:

This guy's comments or opinions are newsworthy? He has been ignored by everyone in responsible positions of the Torah world for a few years already. Why should any media pay attention to him?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 02:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Another elite know-it-all mischief hurts the future condition of hate for the record of Jewish living. It is true that Evil Toevah is not higher form for anyone in this world. However, Torah teaches us that the one who is cursed for their own sin is that person him or herself. Have you not read Deuteronomy Chapter 28?

Clearly, this is that persons issue. Israel as a whole chooses as its intelligent prayer to let Hashem dictate who will live and who will die. If we let our own conditioned hope get into the idea of banning the wicked from being wicked; perhaps we are going to be blessed; but perhaps Hashem will deem us wicked as well and our entire people can feel the grudge of a G-d who is himself in control and our people who are just playing for our own deceitful plans against the stranger.

True it is horrendous to see disease and death exonerated, but it is a chivalrous world and we must as Israel strive to keep the winning hope in the trust of Torah Values.
So let the kiddie fools do their snapper lie. We will just teach our children that our values are True.

This rabbi is just a placekicker for his own indescribable fear of new cages of pain.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Ill news. Maybe this rabbi can do some repentance for suggesting that G-d is going to pelt Israel after humanity which has new faces is giving your world new credence. Nemesis evil.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:50 PM Benabenja Says:

Reply to #5  
His words have a strong meaning Says:

We all be leave that this land "Eretz Yosroel" belongs to Hashem. When the people in Eretz Yisroel behave like the people did in "סדום" acting dirty Gay. Then Hashem will Punish like he did to Sedom.

Your thought should be the first though of any rashuv ben or bat Israel that read Rabbi Amnon coments. Also, who are we to contest what a great sage is declaring?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Nor does anyone know the identity of moshiach for sure!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 04:11 PM rivka Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

I don't believe you are actually debating this person's stupid statements.

the only sensible comment here. I can't believe that I am wasting my time reading this either.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 04:24 PM gesheften Says:

He is actually correct. If you remember last year something major happened the day of or after that parade. three years ago, the Israelis had a big loss in the war on Lebanon. the war started on the day the parade was scheduled.
check it out.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 04:04 PM True_Chassid Says:

Words such as these paint an image of an angry, intolerant and bloodthirsty God, everything which our G-d is not. Rabbi Yitzchak should learn some Chassidus and get in touch with the G-d of Israel and lose the image that he has been promulgating poisonously to others via the media who sadly give him a platform.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 04:38 PM Alzuko Says:

I guess when Jews were killed in Israel in a terrorist attack several years ago on Purim it was a punishment for observing Purim. We are truly fortunate to have in our midst such individuals, who, like Bilaam, are "yodei'ah daas Elyon...."

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Sadly, more of our kinder may commit suicide because of his crazy words. And his followers believe him even though they have gay children.

Your comment is incredibly stupid. There is a huge difference between someone having gay tendencies, Acting on those tendencies that are against halacha and even worse3, proudly parading that you are involved in perverse relationships that are specifically proscribed by the Torah.

Perhaps you would like to have a parade for murderers like Hamas does?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
JamesDean Says:

Can someone ask R' Amnon to post a סלפי video when he discusses this kind of thing with Shomayim? It would probably improve his credibility.

He is not saying anything that is not already said openly in the Torah. V'lo sokee haaretz is a posuk in the Torah. It is not surprising that you are not aware of that, but it is not his own chisddush.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:19 PM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #13  
viess Says:

"Controversial chariedi Israeli Rabbi" wow OK if you wanna say so do so...
Its clearly a message from hashem and a punishment, that's nothing to argue about. Harav Amnan says nothing about that "it" happened "cause" of this!! I just said its a punishment, and that's very understandable!!

"Harav Amnan says nothing about that "it" happened "cause" of this!!"

You haven't even taken the trouble to read the short article which prominently states:

"A Controversial Israeli Charedi Rabbi says rockets fired toward Tel Aviv by Palestinian terrorists is a punishment by god for holding the Gay pride parade in its city on June 13."

If you're foolish enough to want to believe in this charlatan, go right ahead. But, don't insult the rest of us with your delusional dribble!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:23 PM yaakov doe Says:

A 21st century Navi in our midst!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:25 PM Anonymous Says:

He should move to Iran and be with his soul mates.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:29 PM The_Truth Says:

Other than actually saying 'this' happened because of 'that' - he is 100% correct in what he has said.
I actually think he is one of the Gedolei Hador, a Torah True Jew and knows what he is talking about. All the Neveim were mocked in their time, until it was too late. We should listen to our present day Greats.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:34 PM Anonymous Says:

Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak--

Why did you not tell us about the Gay Rights parade before the second and first intifadas. And before Kristallnacht. And before the Chmielnicki-led murders in the Ukraine. And on the eight of Av before the fall of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple.

And why not explain how God arranged that the lives of three observant yeshiva boys be taken. Since the Rabbi can speak for Hashem, perhaps I can speak for the Rabbi. If Hashem arranged that three gay marchers were kidnapped and murdered, it might not take a brilliant mystic to divine the meaning of Hashem's actions.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 05:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
rivka Says:

the only sensible comment here. I can't believe that I am wasting my time reading this either.

Maybe we should avoid the spite, but maybe our given mind of good hope can not clearly synthesize hate in ambivilence of human giving trust in G-d. Never-the-less, giving your worry to the 'debate' is silencing finding solace. The comment you like is apathy. Ginger ale has more bubbles.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:00 PM kensington mom Says:

look, we all know that this gay business is awful and an abomination. Please remember in the Torah it says "it is an abomination"--it being the things that gay people do. It does NOT say that the person is an abomination.

I used to like Rabbi Amnon, but in the last number of years, he has come out with statements that I can no longer abide by. Hashem did not have a conversation with him, nor did He appear in a dream. People like him will confuse the population he is attacking even more. There are too many people like that who are otherwise shomer shabbos and mitzvos, but this yetzer hara is something they struggle with every day, I am sure. I would have hoped that Rabbi Amnon would have given them chizzuk instead of the message that he did. If this toevah is mentioned in the Torah, it just shows that this isn't a new phenomenon, that Hashem understands these issues. so all of you out there, you need to try to be more tolerant towards these people. I'm not saying invite them to your home and introduce them to your children. But bear in mind that in today's society, no one is exempt from this--it could be your child or grandchild, chalilah.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
His words have a strong meaning Says:

We all be leave that this land "Eretz Yosroel" belongs to Hashem. When the people in Eretz Yisroel behave like the people did in "סדום" acting dirty Gay. Then Hashem will Punish like he did to Sedom.

"When the people in Eretz Yisroel behave like the people did in "סדום" acting dirty Gay. Then Hashem will Punish like he did to Sedom."

Hashem loves all of his children. Gays are born that way. Would Hashem punish a kid with a heart condition or diabetes? Your dangerous thinking can destroy lives.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:13 PM OYVY2 Says:

Reply to #7  
JamesDean Says:

Can someone ask R' Amnon to post a סלפי video when he discusses this kind of thing with Shomayim? It would probably improve his credibility.

really well said

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:16 PM chaim Says:

so all the commentator here think gd does things for no reason? or by mistake? He is suggesting a possibility. so if he is wrong there are others things to improve on. why does every time some suggest something , perhaps a plausible one, as an explanation for something bad that happened all the people jump on him? So maybe we should ignore this and perhaps it was an accident what gd did? no reason. just forget it. Don't try learn anything. Fools.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:20 PM hashomer Says:

Evangelical xtian ministers also blame gays for natural disasters. I guess we are more like them every day. Gevalt.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Maybe things are happening because people ( so called Rabbis) are talking
They should learn to keep quiet

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:08 PM A Says:

Reply to #18  
RebKlemson Says:

everything is cuz of the gays

I thought everything was cuz of tznius. This is very confusing.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:09 PM A Says:

Reply to #23  
mythoughts Says:

I think its because of gay people not dressing tzniusdik while talking losh horah about rabbonim. Prove me wrong.

And having smart phones with access to the internet.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
Benabenja Says:

Your thought should be the first though of any rashuv ben or bat Israel that read Rabbi Amnon coments. Also, who are we to contest what a great sage is declaring?

Why would we even believe he is a great sage?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 06:49 PM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #46  
The_Truth Says:

Other than actually saying 'this' happened because of 'that' - he is 100% correct in what he has said.
I actually think he is one of the Gedolei Hador, a Torah True Jew and knows what he is talking about. All the Neveim were mocked in their time, until it was too late. We should listen to our present day Greats.

"All the Neveim were mocked in their time, until it was too late."

You actually equate this charlatan with a נביא? You must be referring to:

א"ר יוחנן מיום שחרב בית המקדש ניטלה נבואה מן הנביאים וניתנה לשוטים ולתינוקות.

The key word here is שוטים.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:18 PM A Says:

Reply to #46  
The_Truth Says:

Other than actually saying 'this' happened because of 'that' - he is 100% correct in what he has said.
I actually think he is one of the Gedolei Hador, a Torah True Jew and knows what he is talking about. All the Neveim were mocked in their time, until it was too late. We should listen to our present day Greats.

poster #46 said:
"Other than actually saying 'this' happened because of 'that'"

Well THAT'S exactly what he said, THAT'S what the article is about. What 'other' is there to talk about?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:25 PM A Says:

Reply to #52  
chaim Says:

so all the commentator here think gd does things for no reason? or by mistake? He is suggesting a possibility. so if he is wrong there are others things to improve on. why does every time some suggest something , perhaps a plausible one, as an explanation for something bad that happened all the people jump on him? So maybe we should ignore this and perhaps it was an accident what gd did? no reason. just forget it. Don't try learn anything. Fools.

I can't speak for everyone making a comment here but I believe that we don't think there is no reason, we just don't know the reason. Hashem is not speaking to any one of us directly, we are, none of us, neviim.

Being given a wrong answer to a question is worse than no answer at all. Without an answer we can believe there is one that we might ultimately discover. With a wrong answer we blame the wrong people and can cause tremendous suffering.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
hamevakesh Says:

I guess he knows why these boys were killed Good thing Hashem has him to tell him what to do

You can make all the fun you want. but this is not a hefker velt here...and yidden pay a price for actions that are abhorrent to G...d and humanity. There is an exact price to pay for everything we do that Hashem has forbid us to. So nothing in life is coincidental...It's all a warning from HKBH...so if you don't believe that, then go study a bit...You might make a bit less fun of people who Actuallly know what they are talking about...
We are not talking about knowing exactly...but certainly we have to be cognizant of what is happening around us and try to figure things out just as we would do personally, which, I'm sure, you never gave a thought about.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
anonymous613 Says:

The 3 Israeli boys HY"D were kidnapped on June 12. The parade was June 13th. I don't know of any source for HKB"H punishing someone before he/she commits the aveira.

you mean the dates don't match up?....so how about the year before and all the years before that.... and all the other aveiros that people commit ...like chillul shabbos and so forth.? In the Holy land, no less...

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 07:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Perhaps Hashem is doing this because He wants to awaken all his beloved children to do Teshuva for whichever misdeeds may need atonement for. A good start for us all might be to try to rein in the Lashon hara. Just a thought...

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 08:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #52  
chaim Says:

so all the commentator here think gd does things for no reason? or by mistake? He is suggesting a possibility. so if he is wrong there are others things to improve on. why does every time some suggest something , perhaps a plausible one, as an explanation for something bad that happened all the people jump on him? So maybe we should ignore this and perhaps it was an accident what gd did? no reason. just forget it. Don't try learn anything. Fools.

Mirror for you.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:16 PM Mark Levin Says:

That's the problem with this generation. We think we're smarter than God. We won't accept mussar from anyone because we "know" better.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:41 PM Rangers Goalie Says:

Reply to #39  
True_Chassid Says:

Words such as these paint an image of an angry, intolerant and bloodthirsty God, everything which our G-d is not. Rabbi Yitzchak should learn some Chassidus and get in touch with the G-d of Israel and lose the image that he has been promulgating poisonously to others via the media who sadly give him a platform.

Are you insane? Read parshas B'chukoisy, and Kee Sovoi. Is that and angry, intolerant G-D? You bet HE gets angry. G-D says "I will show them (evil doers) my anger". Another ahm horetz.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:44 PM Rangers Goalie Says:

Reply to #43  
bewhiskered Says:

"Harav Amnan says nothing about that "it" happened "cause" of this!!"

You haven't even taken the trouble to read the short article which prominently states:

"A Controversial Israeli Charedi Rabbi says rockets fired toward Tel Aviv by Palestinian terrorists is a punishment by god for holding the Gay pride parade in its city on June 13."

If you're foolish enough to want to believe in this charlatan, go right ahead. But, don't insult the rest of us with your delusional dribble!

Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D? It's just haphazard?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:48 PM Herman Munster Says:

Reply to #50  
Anonymous Says:

"When the people in Eretz Yisroel behave like the people did in "סדום" acting dirty Gay. Then Hashem will Punish like he did to Sedom."

Hashem loves all of his children. Gays are born that way. Would Hashem punish a kid with a heart condition or diabetes? Your dangerous thinking can destroy lives.

"Gays are born that way"
They are? Who said? And if they are, G-D would not make gay "act" punishable by death. Or do you think G-D made a mistake and really doesn't understand the gay condition. You know how stupid that sounds?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:57 PM Rangers Goalie Says:

Reply to #52  
chaim Says:

so all the commentator here think gd does things for no reason? or by mistake? He is suggesting a possibility. so if he is wrong there are others things to improve on. why does every time some suggest something , perhaps a plausible one, as an explanation for something bad that happened all the people jump on him? So maybe we should ignore this and perhaps it was an accident what gd did? no reason. just forget it. Don't try learn anything. Fools.

You are 100% right. These people are all trying to tell themselves that G-D had nothing to do with this. Or that the terrible sins committed in the state of Israel, i.e. abortions, churches, gay parades, chillul Shabbos, trayfus, LEGAL prostitution, doesn't make G-D angry. And that idiot poster True_Chassid (yea right) and others are trying to convince themselves and make themselves feel better about there not being Divine punishment. .

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:59 PM Shemp Says:

Reply to #57  
Anonymous Says:

Why would we even believe he is a great sage?

Why not? Are you? Did you farher him? Do you know what farher even means?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 09:16 PM Meekeamcha Says:

If someone is inspired to do teshuva because he sees the murder of the three boys on the day of the toeva parade as a sign from Hashem than it was a sign from Hashem!!!!

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 10:03 PM Secular Says:

... Sefardim...

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 10:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #68  
Herman Munster Says:

"Gays are born that way"
They are? Who said? And if they are, G-D would not make gay "act" punishable by death. Or do you think G-D made a mistake and really doesn't understand the gay condition. You know how stupid that sounds?

Do some research. Gays are proven genetically to be born with a different set of genes. In the womb hormones affect the fetus. A straight person can't become gay and vice versa.

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 11:02 PM Rangers Goalie Says:

Reply to #60  
A Says:

I can't speak for everyone making a comment here but I believe that we don't think there is no reason, we just don't know the reason. Hashem is not speaking to any one of us directly, we are, none of us, neviim.

Being given a wrong answer to a question is worse than no answer at all. Without an answer we can believe there is one that we might ultimately discover. With a wrong answer we blame the wrong people and can cause tremendous suffering.

"Hashem is not speaking to any one of us directly, we are, none of us, neviim."
"Being given a wrong answer to a question is worse than no answer at all".
A)There are "neviim" in our days. Just not like like the old neviim. There are people who are tzsadikim and have ruach hakodesh. Does Rabbi Amnon Yitzchok? I don't know but every word of Tochocho that comes out of a godols' mouth, that's today's neviess.
B)How do you know it's the wrong answer? Do you think G-D loves gay parades or the other abominations taking place in Israel a land that was ONCE holy?

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 Jul 09, 2014 at 11:54 PM Secular Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

Do some research. Gays are proven genetically to be born with a different set of genes. In the womb hormones affect the fetus. A straight person can't become gay and vice versa.

What??

There is no 'Gay gene' just as there is no 'fat gene'. That said, people may have certain predilections and appetites,(which may stem from childhood experiences; trauma, abuse, etc.) but as moral human beings, Gentiles and Jews are commanded through Torah and Natural law to refrain from Homosexual BEHAVIOR.

עַל-כֵּן, יַעֲזָב-אִישׁ, אֶת-אָבִיו, וְאֶת-אִמּוֹ; וְדָבַק בְּאִשְׁתּוֹ, וְהָיוּ לְבָשָׂר אֶחָד

עֶרְוַת אָבִיךָ וְעֶרְוַת אִמְּךָ, לֹא תְגַלֵּה: אִמְּךָ הִוא, לֹא תְגַלֶּה עֶרְוָתָהּ

וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא

לֹא-תִהְיֶה קְדֵשָׁה, מִבְּנוֹת יִשְׂרָאֵל; וְלֹא-יִהְיֶה קָדֵשׁ, מִבְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 12:02 AM Rachel W. Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

Do some research. Gays are proven genetically to be born with a different set of genes. In the womb hormones affect the fetus. A straight person can't become gay and vice versa.

First of all, you're wrong. Many noted psychiatrists believe that one is not born gay but gets emotionally messed up along the way. This isn't the place to go into detail, but genes it ain't. Second, our leaders have an obligation to speak up and set us straight. Besides, nobody said tragedies are occurring because of gays. The message is that the a parade flaunting and promulgating a deviant and sinful lifestyle was allowed to proceed unchecked in the holiest of places on earth, Heaven help us all. The majority of critics on this site are full of themselves and fooling themselves by distorting the message to suit their agenda and political correctness ideal. Time to shake ourselves awake to reality and to take our heads out of the sand.

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 01:37 AM FranZ Says:

I used to listen to Amnon's lectures but no more. I think he's an idiot. What will he do if his own son or daughter turns out to be gay? This same "Rabbi" has said that women shouldn't drive.

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 03:08 AM JoeField1 Says:

Reply to #25  
sambatyon Says:

You are going by the secular date but in the Hebrew date it was the same day

“You are going by the secular date but in the Hebrew date it was the same day”

Are you an idiot, it is impossible; regardless which calendar you use the Gregorian, Hebrew, or any other of the forty or so calendar’s that exits. If the parade happened on Sunday and the kidnapping occurred on Monday in the same year it will never ever be on the same day.

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 05:09 AM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #67  
Rangers Goalie Says:

Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D? It's just haphazard?

"Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D?"

You apparently have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? Where did anyone on this thread ever say that anything doesn't have to do with הקב"ה? Show me where, or shut your mouth! And, speaking of hypocrisy, does a צדיק like you have to resort to calling other people names? Apparently, you know nothing about:

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו

So, go take your completely misguided opinions concerning anything that has to do with תורה, and mindlessly follow every charlatan who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה. Pathetic!

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 05:15 AM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #72  
Secular Says:

... Sefardim...

"Sefardim."

Concise and to the point!

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM Shmuelhart Says:

It is unfortunate that more Rabbonim are not crying out from the roof tops - or anywhere else where they could be heard - that Hashem HATES public officials who are supportive of homosexuality. Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak's comments are solidly founded in the Tenach. Those who find fault in this are Reshayim.

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 11:42 PM Herman Munster Says:

Reply to #79  
bewhiskered Says:

"Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D?"

You apparently have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? Where did anyone on this thread ever say that anything doesn't have to do with הקב"ה? Show me where, or shut your mouth! And, speaking of hypocrisy, does a צדיק like you have to resort to calling other people names? Apparently, you know nothing about:

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו

So, go take your completely misguided opinions concerning anything that has to do with תורה, and mindlessly follow every charlatan who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה. Pathetic!

Well you for one will notice how many on here deny Divine judgement. Now THAT'S pathetic! And BTW I also don't notice and defense of Gedolim on this board. Now I may be wrong on that but I would surely bet That Rabbi Amnon Yitzcok is a bigger Talmid chocham than you. Would you agree to that?

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 11:27 PM Sebastion Says:

Reply to #79  
bewhiskered Says:

"Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D?"

You apparently have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? Where did anyone on this thread ever say that anything doesn't have to do with הקב"ה? Show me where, or shut your mouth! And, speaking of hypocrisy, does a צדיק like you have to resort to calling other people names? Apparently, you know nothing about:

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו

So, go take your completely misguided opinions concerning anything that has to do with תורה, and mindlessly follow every charlatan who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה. Pathetic!

I also read that in your reply. Did you not clealy write "If you're foolish enough to want to believe in this charlatan, go right ahead. But, don't insult the rest of us with your delusional dribble!"?
To me that means you are the charlatan by calling a sincere rabbi a name and b) why is what this rabbi said "delusional dribble"? Are you a know-it-all? How do YOU know he isn't right.
And no, I am not impressed

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 11:32 PM Sebastion Says:

Reply to #79  
bewhiskered Says:

"Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D?"

You apparently have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? Where did anyone on this thread ever say that anything doesn't have to do with הקב"ה? Show me where, or shut your mouth! And, speaking of hypocrisy, does a צדיק like you have to resort to calling other people names? Apparently, you know nothing about:

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו

So, go take your completely misguided opinions concerning anything that has to do with תורה, and mindlessly follow every charlatan who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה. Pathetic!

And no, I'm not impressed with your Hebrew quotes. Well here is one for you regarding myself and Rabbi Yitzchok Kol haposel b'mumoh posel! Look in the mirror who are YOU to call Rabbi Yitzchok a charlatan?

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 Jul 10, 2014 at 11:53 PM Really Old Old Lady Says:

Reply to #79  
bewhiskered Says:

"Hey bewildered, are you and the other reformers saying this has nothing to do with G-D?"

You apparently have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? Where did anyone on this thread ever say that anything doesn't have to do with הקב"ה? Show me where, or shut your mouth! And, speaking of hypocrisy, does a צדיק like you have to resort to calling other people names? Apparently, you know nothing about:

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו

So, go take your completely misguided opinions concerning anything that has to do with תורה, and mindlessly follow every charlatan who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה. Pathetic!

כל היורדין לגיהנם עולים חוץ משלשה שיורדין ואין עולין ואלו הן הבא על אשת איש והמלבין פני חבירו ברבים והמכנה שם רע לחבירו
And aren't you being m'vahyesh a rabbi publicly by calling him a charlatan?. BTW anyone who claims to speak for G-d which really means speaking "up" for G-d is certainly not "pathetic"!

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 Jul 11, 2014 at 12:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #60  
A Says:

I can't speak for everyone making a comment here but I believe that we don't think there is no reason, we just don't know the reason. Hashem is not speaking to any one of us directly, we are, none of us, neviim.

Being given a wrong answer to a question is worse than no answer at all. Without an answer we can believe there is one that we might ultimately discover. With a wrong answer we blame the wrong people and can cause tremendous suffering.

the navi who connected homosexuality and hamas was Moshe Rabanu
vayikra 18 24-28
Devarim 32 15-16 21-22

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 Jul 11, 2014 at 12:56 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #80  
bewhiskered Says:

"Sefardim."

Concise and to the point!

are you also in favor of sinas chinam besides mishkav zachar

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 Jul 11, 2014 at 04:00 AM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #82  
Herman Munster Says:

Well you for one will notice how many on here deny Divine judgement. Now THAT'S pathetic! And BTW I also don't notice and defense of Gedolim on this board. Now I may be wrong on that but I would surely bet That Rabbi Amnon Yitzcok is a bigger Talmid chocham than you. Would you agree to that?

"Well you for one will notice how many on here deny Divine judgement."

Do you know what's really pathetic, fella? No one on this board has yet ח"ו, ever denied השגחה פרטית, even though posters such as you keep making that lame charge because you want to believe in a charlatan. If you consider someone who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה for his own self aggrandizement a גדול, you don't even know what a true תלמיד חכם is, and never will!

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 Jul 11, 2014 at 02:41 PM Santas Helper Says:

Reply to #88  
bewhiskered Says:

"Well you for one will notice how many on here deny Divine judgement."

Do you know what's really pathetic, fella? No one on this board has yet ח"ו, ever denied השגחה פרטית, even though posters such as you keep making that lame charge because you want to believe in a charlatan. If you consider someone who claims to speak in the name of הקב"ה for his own self aggrandizement a גדול, you don't even know what a true תלמיד חכם is, and never will!

And YOU do!!??? HAHAHA

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