Monsey, NY – Town supervisor to Convey Urgent Meeting on The Disrespect By Police Officer Of Frum Woman, Photos Destroyed

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    Monsey, NY – An orthodox woman was arrested by Ramapo PD today for unspecified charges, and was told by the officer to remove her wig for photos booking, and was handled very inappropriately.

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    The Monsey Jewish community is outraged and furious that the male ramapo officers In a blatant disrespect to this sensitive issue as the woman begged the officer to understand that by doing so is a blatant dishonor to her, and her Jewish religion, the officer ignored her plea.

    The police officer has also refused the womans request for a female officer to handle her

    The town supervisor Christopher P. St. Lawrence has just released the below statement to the media

    Recently, as Supervisor of the Town of Ramapo, I was made aware of an arrest of two members of the New Square community. It is my understanding that troubling questions have been raised as to the propriety of the behavior of the Police officer involved during the processing of the individuals following arrest.

    It has always been my position, as Supervisor of the Town of Ramapo and as Chairman of the Ramapo Police Commission, to respect the religious and cultural beliefs of all our citizens. Therefore, I will not tolerate any inappropriate or insensitive behavior by any member of the police department and am prepared to take whatever action is necessary to address any complaint that may be made about this situation.

    While this matter is being reviewed, I have directed that we re-double our efforts in the area of Community Policing. I have charged Deputy Chief of Police James Quinn, with the task of reviewing our Community Policing program and immediately implementing additional programs in the area of sensitivity training, including individual training for all Ramapo Police officers. I believe that this will foster a greater understanding by our Police force of the religious and cultural beliefs of our citizens throughout the Town of Ramapo. I invite members of the Town of Ramapo to contact me should they have any suggestions or concerns about this matter.

    I sincerely hope that the community will accept my heartfelt apologies for the insensitive behavior that occurred.

    I will work diligently to ensure that our Police force will understand the concerns of the community so that this will never be repeated in the Town of Ramapo.

    In addition, I am convening a special meeting of the Ramapo Police Commission on Monday June 23rd, to deal directly with the Police officer in this instance.

    Christopher P. St. Lawrence -Supervisor

    U/D 2:52 PM
    The officer, Jonathan Quinn, is to go before a police board next week. The photo is to be destroyed.

    Assemblyman Dov Hikind of Broorklyn who has been a strong advocate for religious freedom and respect, has told VIN news he will absolutely look into this case and see if there is anything from a legislation point, that he can help educate law enforcement of the sensitivity of this type of issues.

    Mr. Hikind also says that in NYC such an incident would have never occurred because the NYPD is educated on the sensitivity of the religious people


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    nebach
    nebach
    15 years ago

    a real real nebach!!!! i hope the dude gets fired and she can get a good lawyer and try to make a few bucks to make her feel a little better!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Somehow there is a second side to this story that is not being reported.

    I have a klal , when in Rome you do as the Roman’s do

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    would a muslim women have to remove the burqa?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    This is an outrage and shows the hatred of the Ramapo Police Department towards the frum community. Absolutely, I hope the officer is fired and his superiors are dealt with as well, as they let this happen…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Sounds liks 1940’s history does repeat itself. This happened in the U.S., right? Based on the story I may have thought Germany…

    Big Event
    Big Event
    15 years ago

    Disgusting

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Of course a moslem woman would not have to remove her burka, because you have to respect her religion.

    11:17 Even if this woman is guilty of a crime and was arrested for a valid reason, there is absolutely no excuse for not allowing her the constitutional right of freedom of religion.

    And ‘if we are in rome….You better remove your kapel and tzitzis…Last time I looked, it is not what most NYers wear.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Who was the officer? It should not be hard to find out… a male or female officer? Rookie or officer that has been there a while?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I am really fed up with the disrespect by the Ramapo PD to the community. We once had a relationship, but you can say that is more than gone at this point! It seems every few days it is something else. Wake up Chief Brower you are in charge! I think.

    Nigritude Ultramarine
    Nigritude Ultramarine
    15 years ago

    Based on the story I may have thought Germany…

    It’s the Holocaust card for the win!

    0222 member
    0222 member
    15 years ago

    i think we all should go out as a protest at the police dept. this should never happin in our community. please call 845-357-2400 and protast this evil work. or email to [email protected] copy this site and paste to address

    thanks for helping us and all of us

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    where are all the macher’s who are so friendly with the police dept. when you need them

    sorry but i have no respect any more for the ramapo cops who by the way get paid from our hard earned money,,,they are a bunch of crooks look at ,dale ,

    it took 3 years of complaints till they took action.

    Chaim dov
    Chaim dov
    15 years ago

    Is thair any action going on?we must do somthing.does anyone have any more info?

    monsey 112
    monsey 112
    15 years ago

    what are the unspecified charges . Story definately has another side to this story. Why do u all be dan lekaf zechus on this cop just like you want us to be dan lekaf zechus on this lady who was arrested . the truth will come out very about both the cop and tjis lady who was arrested. just wait and see and stop lynching this cop before you hear both sides of the story

    joe
    joe
    15 years ago

    Hello!

    Remove your wig for a second or two while I take a picture!! Isnt that the law?? How many exceptions can we make??

    You people are so juvinile!

    Nazi, Germany, KKK, AntiSemites, blah blah blah.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    The cop can’t arrest a woman for no reason. It doesn’t fly. I am not sure if you no anything about police work, but when you arrest someone you must have these things called REASONS. So before you jump down this cops throat you must realize that he probably had a valid reason to arrest this woman and maybe just maybe you are going a little too crazy on RPD who has to put up with all of your garbage 24/7. For examples of what garbage, it would be my greatest honor to explain in detail. This woman most likely did something wrong and thats why she was thrown into a cell and she prob gave the cop attitude witch got her into some more problems. You make your bed, you sleep in it

    Shaul Boruch
    Shaul Boruch
    15 years ago

    Can someone please post if there is any reason to go to the police station now? It’s approx 12:45 AM.

    NYC Man
    NYC Man
    15 years ago

    AND WHY WAS SHE ARRESTED?

    what did this women do that wasnt “inappropriate” to warrant her being arrested?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    r u aware that our so calld FRIEND “ST. Lawrence”

    is like the Police commissioner

    so lets see what he will do for this

    if you think that something like this or any other Unjustified arrest

    could be reprimanded

    NYC Man
    NYC Man
    15 years ago

    stop crying 1940s and germany. please.

    dina dmalchusa dina.

    she isnt the first frum woman to get arrested.

    did she commit a crime? did she break a law? that is the tachlis here. not being requested to lift her wig off for her criminal mug shots.

    please.

    berl
    berl
    15 years ago

    it shows how our police officers are untrained and disrespectfull of the jewish community

    Matzahlocal101
    Matzahlocal101
    15 years ago

    I would think that cops that work in Monsey would be appreciative of the fact that their work involves more writing tickets and considerably less getting shot at by drug dealers than other beats. I would also think being that a good percentage of people that work in town hall are frum, cops would be aware of the “cultural needs” of our population. Additionally it would seem there must be some protocol that female arrestees are handled by female cops, (TO PROTECT THE COPS! from claims of abuse.) If women can be photographed for drivers ID (and passports) with the wig, and most women have hair, what would be the big problem of photographing her with the wig?

    Mistamah, the cop was probably angry at Rubashkin for hiring illegals and not allowing them to unionize like police, no?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    She was set up!! She did nothing! I can vouch for it she is a top teacher in BY of RAMAPO!!! We should all continue to daven for her release

    Shaul Boruch
    Shaul Boruch
    15 years ago

    Regardless of why the woman was arrested she has rights and requesting a female officer for processing is virtually SOP in any police department in the country. Civil rights law exists precisely for this reason. Taking a person into custody doesn’t give duly constituted authority carte blanche to do whatever they want – even if the person arrested acts inappropriately.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    You should Daven for justice to be served! You can’t vouch for someone. You think you know someone so well and then Bam! She pulls a stunt like this. The Ramapo Police Dep’t is a very respected Dep’t and doesn’t make false arrests. I’m glad that you know her from BY but you don’t know her well enough. I don’t care if she is your co-worker who happens to be a very good friend of yours, who lives next door to you, who is also your sister-in-law!!!! You don’t know everyone and what they do!!!! Classic Jewish Mentality. I know everyone and everything

    MDN
    MDN
    15 years ago

    Wrong! The tachlis is NOT the crime. Because aperson alegadley commits a crime you cannot disrespect them or deem them guilty until they are found guilty at trial. Our women don’t wear veils and burkas like the arabic women covering their faces and just like you don’t shave a persons head in orfer to take a mug shot the PD shpuld not ask her to remove her wig, irespective of the aleged crime

    EDIT0R
    EDIT0R
    15 years ago

    IF SHE BROKE THE LAW, YOU MAY ARREST, BUT NOT ALLOWED TO TELL HER TO TURN OFF THE WIG.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    sounds like the lakewood police

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    to anon 1:14

    simply put “you are out of line” (im kein – ein laduvur soif)

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    to anonymous 1:14

    You are contradicting youself

    You wrote this all in one sentence!

    1)You think you know someone so well and then Bam

    2)The Ramapo Police Dep’t is a very respected Dep’t and doesn’t make false arrests

    first you doubt the general knowledge of one another, & thereafter you are so certain about the police departement

    Yid
    Yid
    15 years ago

    For all you high and mighty “dina dmalchusa dina’

    Even if she was arrested for a terrible crime… She is still in the USA. Her request for a female officer is LEGAL!!!!

    Arresting and degrading are two different things.

    Why are you all saying THE LAW IS THAT SHE HAS TO REMOVE HER SHEITEL. Did you go to law school???????????

    I wonder if a cancer patient is arrested, do they have to remove there headcover and show a bald head for a mug shot?? I don’t think so.

    For all of you that have already convicted her of terrible crime, Remember that in the USA you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

    And on this site, she was already judged and sentenced by some people who don’t even know the law.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    who cares if there is a reason or not for the arrest, y did the wig come in the picture no matter what crime it should b

    anon.
    anon.
    15 years ago

    DINA D’MALCHUSA DINA!!!

    Where do you take it from? The torah !! The SAME torah that says you should judge others favorably.

    Were you ever arrested? If not then you were never in her shoes and should not judge her.

    Do you even know who it is? It could be a relative of yours.

    Did you all finish law school?

    Are you totally familiar with the laws about arrests?

    AND MOST IMPORTANT, ARE YOU ALL SAMPLE CITIZENS WHO FOLLOW EACH AND EVERY LAW?

    anon.
    anon.
    15 years ago

    To NYC Man,

    Maybe the “tachlis” is that her rights as an American were violated?

    And even if she was rightly arrested, SHE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!!

    YOU would probably love to take off your kappel and tzitzis for a mug shot.

    M.P.
    M.P.
    15 years ago

    Would you agree that a captured terrorist should be photographed any way the authorities feel apropiate?

    I’m not suggesting this lady is a terrorist CH”V.

    No one here seems to know what crime she has been charged for. In some cases it might be appropiate to force a criminal to remove a wig even if its against your religius belief.

    Just a different prespective.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    After all we pay one of the height taxes, but elect people to represent us that have their houses under congregations, get their tickets taken care off under the table, they don’t feel our pain 4 different police departments patrolling the same safe community, and the officers have to meet their quota, they behave with such disrespect to the average citizen, but again our leader are above average!!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    What’s she supposed to have done? Was she wearing a “spitz” mit a tiechel? That could have been the issue.

    My license has me wearing a wig, so does my now defunct green card. There’s more to this, although I’ll bet it’s pure anti semitism. Yes, that’s right! When the Supreme Court “paskened” a couple of days ago that terrorists get the same rights as we do, we must respect their civil rights, it makes me wonder what this woman could have done that was so bad that she lost HER civil rights.

    Women should protest   the stationhouse.

    BMoss
    BMoss
    15 years ago

    the mud shot must have an accurate picture of her.

    Wearing a shetle allows one to change one’s appearance. Let’s cool down and wait to hear the whole story

    BMoss
    BMoss
    15 years ago

    evcuse me , I meant mug shot and shaytle. lol It’s too early

    unit0220
    unit0220
    15 years ago

    we also had a lot of prob. withe ramapo police

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    BMoss-What you are suggesting is absurd. You can shave your hair, grow a beard and hair, which all change your facial look.

    Chacham Mah Nishtanah
    Chacham Mah Nishtanah
    15 years ago

    You guys make it sound that you have to commit an awful crime to get arrested. Well, in NY, if you don’t pay a single driving ticket, your license gets suspended, and you will be mandatory ARRESTED for driving with a suspended license! Isn’t that a terrible crime! I would very much imagine that is what she was arrested for.

    lavdafka
    lavdafka
    15 years ago

    Hi , 0222 12:07 AM

    IS THIS THE KIND OF LETTER I SHOULD BE WRITING?

    Email: [email protected]

    Ramapo PD

    Chief Brower;

    It has been brought to my attention a recent incident of a terrible abuse by one of your officers. This involves one of your officers violating a Monsey woman. We here in the Monsey religious community are Indignant with this kind unprofessionalism given here by the Ramapo police force, I can’t begin to tell you how unhappy and disappointed I am with this kind and blatant disrespect to this woman.

    Sa???? ???man

    ?? West Maple Ave

    Monsey NY 10952

    ( 845) 352 ????

    long live Zionisom
    long live Zionisom
    15 years ago

    all those who mock and wirte on this blog against the cops dont go running to them an kiss up to them when you need them and they will protect you

    She violated the law she deserves to get arrested they treat any alleged criminal the same way she has to remove any covering in cse she will be a fugitive….

    maybe thank an officer for helping you u next time make dinners to help give them citizen appreciation

    NYC Man
    NYC Man
    15 years ago

    anon 3:23,

    If so, then you must afford the SAME benefit of the doubt you demand for the woman for the cops as well.

    To sit here and start calling them 1940s german nazis is sickening and embarassing to the jewish community. is that how we should react? maybe they did know? maybe they dont care? maybe they are taught not to care? maybe they treat all criminals arrested the same? are they not innocent til proven guilty too?

    why just blindly call them nazis cuz they did their job according to its description?

    NYC Man
    NYC Man
    15 years ago

    and 3:23 –

    that IS the tachlis. if she had done anything that warranted getting arrested, she would not have been in that situation to have her rights violated in the first place.

    long live Zionisom
    long live Zionisom
    15 years ago

    lets get this straight

    HER RIGHTS WERE NOT VIOLATED at any time…

    she can request a female officer to pat her down but to remover her head gear doesnt have a ny standings that a female officer should be called on scene for

    if it were a muslim this happened too you would praise the officer for what he did

    lavdafka
    lavdafka
    15 years ago

    She was delinquent in responding to traffic summons . Police followed a voluntary discretionary arrest . This is very sad and unfortunate. This has happened many times before.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    That’s all?? I was so sure she was a combination of Osama bin Laden & Jeffrey Dahmer, if not worse.

    a yid
    a yid
    15 years ago

    to long live zionisim: your comments are very appropriate for a zionist (full of sinas yisroel)