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FILE - R Mendel Weiss, Reb Mendel was Known for his many layers of coats packed with papers and lived mostly on the streets as a homeless man in Williamsburg, Borough Park, and Flatbush, until a few years ago was placed in Palm Gardens in Flatbush, he passed away Sept. 30, 2014 (Dee Voch)Woodcliff Lake, NJ - In his heartfelt public speech last night at the annual Agudah convention, the Novominsker Rebbe, R’ Yaakov Perlow, brought out lessons gleaned from an unexpected source:  R’ Mendel Weiss a homeless Satmar yid who was well known in Brooklyn and passed away several weeks ago.

“He was a mysterious Jew, bedraggled…but Mendel had some interesting things to say,” said the Novomnisker.

R’ Mendel, who wandered the streets of Williamsburg for many years before he became a fixture on the streets of Flatbush and Borough Park, frequented many yeshivos and shuls throughout the area.  He was known for the many layers of clothing he wore, stuffed with papers, and for the heartfelt appreciation he extended to those who offered him food and lodging.

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Rabbi Perlow related that R’ Mendel used to theorize about the concept of judging others favorably, wondering how one could go lifnim meshuras hadin and be extra stringent in this matter. R’ Mendel’s answer, related Rabbi Perlow, was simple: don’t look at others.

The Novominsker urged listeners to take R’ Mendel’s words to heart, addressing a scathing rebuke to bloggers who feel the need to comment on any issue that arises.

“Rabbosai, we have become a society of kikkers, of lookers,” said the Novominsker. “We look at yenem and we make comments.  There are many self-appointed mevinim amongst us unfortunately, ready to sound off on anything and everything. These mevinim have no compunctions about opinionating about whatever goes on in the Jewish world, in the Torah world especially and very often, as a result of that curse of technology called the blogs, they engage in cynicism and zilzul talmidei chochomim and downright chutzpah.”

Rabbi Perlow quoted the Kotzker Rebbe who would exhort his followers to scrutinize themselves and their own actions instead of looking at the behavior of others.

“An ehrliche yid should behave with humility and understatedness and speak with kavod hatorah and respect talmidei chochomim and not appropriate themselves as a commentator and a mayvin on everything that goes on.”

The Novominsker spoke about instilling these same values in our children and grandchildren.

“How do you expect the younger generation to think when they hear sometimes their parents making derogatory remarks on the ‘system’ in the Torah world today, learning after the chasana, having to support the kinder, the eidemes and so on?”

“Yes there are questions and issues about individuals and parnassa is an overriding question sometimes, all the time, and they must be addressed individually, but not to become self-styled commentators on the Torah scene today,” added the Novominsker.

Offering his own view as a member of the older generation, Rabbi Perlow spoke about the lost passion for Torah that was prevalent decades ago, threatened by those who feel free to criticize others in a public forum.

“What I need to stress is that we must curb the urge to opinionate, because opinionating…means poor judgment, unfair comments and unwise chinuch,” said Rabbi Perlow.

The Novominsker concluded his twenty nine minute address with a plea to seek a greater level of refinement and closeness to the Ribono Shel Olam.

“That is an obligation incumbent upon every Jew, especially ehrliche yidden and thus enhance k’vod shomayim.”



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 Nov 16, 2014 at 01:50 PM Benny Says:

Rabbi - you are good!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 01:58 PM lamdan Says:

All I can say after such a heartfelt plea is no comment

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 01:59 PM Boochie Says:

People question and offer their critique on the system simply because it's not being explained well......i don't see that as the fault of the layman.......i find that the fault of the leaders

If people feel the system is broken then the leaders need to better explain why it's not broken

People have valid questions and they deserve valid answers

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 02:08 PM inNY Says:

The theme of don't ask questions about the system is an 'AM HARATZAS'..

The Jews by Chorben Beis Hamiokdosh laughed of Yermiyahu Hanuvi who warned them the system is broken and the temple will be destroyed.. no where in the Torah does it say u can't question a system that appear to be bankrupt..

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 02:37 PM blogger Says:

Interesting, that the Satmar Rebbe Reb Yoel was most likely one the most written up and criticized Gadol in the world for being an anti zionist. and despite that, he never held speeches that no one can criticize and that u need to be mechabd Talmidi Chachumim..

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 02:14 PM naftuli Says:

novominsker rebbe is right but how is he planning to change the world?
we all know the worlds problem but with no solutions

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 02:41 PM torboy74 Says:

I love this message; However, unfortunately, I find the mosdos haChinuch to propagate a culture of judgement through their black-and-white definition of who is an "ehrlicher yid" utilizing fixed, albeit superficial, criteria.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 02:59 PM Anonymous Says:

The Noveminsker Rebbe, till 120, should focus on making simple sholom peace in the Ponovitcher yeshiva where this week yogurt containers were thrown on elderly rosh hayeshiva while davening maariv in the Yeshiva. If one cannot control there should be peace between Gedoleii Yisroel and rav shmuel Auerbach and within Ponivizeh Yeshiva, how do you expect to control the nlogs??

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:08 PM Tenor12 Says:

People comment negatively on the system because it doesn't work for most people in the system. he means well, but like most of the Rabbonim today, he's out of touch. No one's paying attention anymore anyway.

Same applies to the convention. Their day in the sun ended 10 years ago.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:09 PM c Says:

Looking at individuals and judging them is a problem that needs to be addressed. I think most of is aren't really looking at individuals though. We are looking at the failures in our system. One of those failures is people thinking they are above question and reproach.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:15 PM IBracha Says:

Reply to #7  
torboy74 Says:

I love this message; However, unfortunately, I find the mosdos haChinuch to propagate a culture of judgement through their black-and-white definition of who is an "ehrlicher yid" utilizing fixed, albeit superficial, criteria.

Reply to #7: Your right on target. It's the Mosdos fault to accept or not to accept based on if this person would give a good name for the yeshivah and not there character.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:18 PM Yeh but... Says:

Reply to #3  
Boochie Says:

People question and offer their critique on the system simply because it's not being explained well......i don't see that as the fault of the layman.......i find that the fault of the leaders

If people feel the system is broken then the leaders need to better explain why it's not broken

People have valid questions and they deserve valid answers

If people are really looking for answers, they would not blog about it. Nobody (worthwhile) will answer you that way.

If you really want answers, why not call the Novimsker or visit him in his Beis Medrash. Listen to what he has to say before blogging.

If you want an explanation, there is a way to get it. And it's not by blogging about it!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:24 PM c Says:

What the Rebbe fails to mention or realize is that these scandals are making main stream media and the Jewish bloggers are a drop in the bucket.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:46 PM Anonymous Says:

So years ago nobody knocked yenim? Klausenberg & Satmar didn't knock each other? Rav Shach and chabad were buddies? I don't see it any worse than years ago. Sorry

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48 PM Left Brooklyn Says:

Spoken by a man with a college degree.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 03:57 PM Kop Mentch Says:

So the message is not to criticize others. But is it okay to criticize those who criticize others for criticizing "yenim"? Isn't that exactly what the Rov was doing???

And, is it okay for some people (such as Rabbonim) to criticize others but not okay for the "poshite yid" to criticize others? At what stage does one earn the "green light" to criticize others????

Finally, the message was not to criticize the kollel system, but is it okay to criticize the Chassidic or Zionistic or Mod-Orthodox system? Does this also apply in Eretz Yisroel where heavy politics play a role in Agudah, Degel, Sefardim, Dati-Leumi, Chabad etc.????

I really want to know the gedarim!!!!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 04:14 PM Kop Mentch Says:

Reply to #18  
Kop Mentch Says:

So the message is not to criticize others. But is it okay to criticize those who criticize others for criticizing "yenim"? Isn't that exactly what the Rov was doing???

And, is it okay for some people (such as Rabbonim) to criticize others but not okay for the "poshite yid" to criticize others? At what stage does one earn the "green light" to criticize others????

Finally, the message was not to criticize the kollel system, but is it okay to criticize the Chassidic or Zionistic or Mod-Orthodox system? Does this also apply in Eretz Yisroel where heavy politics play a role in Agudah, Degel, Sefardim, Dati-Leumi, Chabad etc.????

I really want to know the gedarim!!!!

In the SAME address, the Novominsker Rebbe, R’ Yaakov Perlow spoke out strongly against those who go to Har Habayis, saying that they are directly responsible for bloodshed in Israel. Referring to those people as “misguided individuals,” the Novominsker said that going up onto Har Habayis is “a clear violation of the psak of Halacha and gedolei hador.” Rabbi Perlow also said that these actions incite the Arabs to engage in acts of violence.

Si I guess it is OKAY to criticize yenim if they disagree with you!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 05:26 PM shvigger Says:

Reply to #18  
Kop Mentch Says:

So the message is not to criticize others. But is it okay to criticize those who criticize others for criticizing "yenim"? Isn't that exactly what the Rov was doing???

And, is it okay for some people (such as Rabbonim) to criticize others but not okay for the "poshite yid" to criticize others? At what stage does one earn the "green light" to criticize others????

Finally, the message was not to criticize the kollel system, but is it okay to criticize the Chassidic or Zionistic or Mod-Orthodox system? Does this also apply in Eretz Yisroel where heavy politics play a role in Agudah, Degel, Sefardim, Dati-Leumi, Chabad etc.????

I really want to know the gedarim!!!!

If you want to know the gedarim, learn Sefer Chofetz Chaim.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 05:54 PM I'm amazed Says:

This started as a discussion of the halachos of Har haBayit. It degenerated into yogurt throwing, child abuse, financial scandals, and internecine warfare.

We have different minhagim, attire, and educational methods, but we only have one Beis haMikdash. And there we must act as one.

There is, today, no mitzvah to go up on the Mount. If there were, you'd be waitlisted for tickets. The "pilgrims" are pursuing a purely political agenda. That hasn't worked to date, and it's only making things worse.

It would be nice if Jews looked to Torah experts for answers to complex questions. Not politicians. Elected -or- freelance.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 06:02 PM LebidikYankel Says:

The Novominsker's point is clear, I daresay; leave off commenting about others. He didn't say 'Don't speak out on important issues', just that the world can do without your pikchus and mine on every subject. I think its something to consider....

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 06:29 PM sechelyoshor Says:

Is it possible that the people who are upset with the system aren't simply onlookers, but are people who have personally suffered as a result of the system?
If so, this is not a bunch of kvetchers, but this is the nation itself calling to the the leaders that the system is broken. The system is a gezeira she'ain hatibbur yochol la'amod ba,

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 07:17 PM Sholi-Katz Says:

I find this incredible - The Novominsker is using words of one of the greatest pedophiles in our generation. 40 years ago in Willy he was known as "MENDEL THE CHAZER" he molested hundreds of young boys as he was let into every mikvah throughout the day on Friday. Using Mendel words of wisdom, is the most ironic statement you can make. Sure Mendel will tell you - don't talk about others.
This speech is another way of saying "keep brushing it under the tables" - same message different strategies.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 07:20 PM boroparkermom Says:

Reply to #24  
sechelyoshor Says:

Is it possible that the people who are upset with the system aren't simply onlookers, but are people who have personally suffered as a result of the system?
If so, this is not a bunch of kvetchers, but this is the nation itself calling to the the leaders that the system is broken. The system is a gezeira she'ain hatibbur yochol la'amod ba,

What "system"??!?!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 07:32 PM Liepa Says:

The Bloggers aren't the issue the ones giving fodder to the Bloggers, the ones causing the chillul Hashem's are the issue. So with all due respect Novominsker Rebbe, what is your message, if any, to them!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 08:07 PM Anonymous Says:

What kind of vile lashon haroah is this? There is no credible evidence that the heilege Novominsker ever knowingly abused children or allowed this guy "Mendel the Chazer" to molest children. I very much doubt the Novominsker issued orders that Mendel be allow to enter any mikvah with the intention to harm children. You should seek mechilah from both the Novominsker and the niftar.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 09:25 PM Refyok Says:

Reply to #13  
Yeh but... Says:

If people are really looking for answers, they would not blog about it. Nobody (worthwhile) will answer you that way.

If you really want answers, why not call the Novimsker or visit him in his Beis Medrash. Listen to what he has to say before blogging.

If you want an explanation, there is a way to get it. And it's not by blogging about it!

"ally want answers, why not call the Novimsker or visit him in his Beis Medrash. Listen to what he has to say before blogging.

If you want an explanation, there is a way to get it. And it's not by blogging about it!"

If he had answers why wouldn't he use his speech to tell everyone what they are?
Instead he tells everyone to be quiet.

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 09:55 PM Wow Says:

Reply to #25  
Sholi-Katz Says:

I find this incredible - The Novominsker is using words of one of the greatest pedophiles in our generation. 40 years ago in Willy he was known as "MENDEL THE CHAZER" he molested hundreds of young boys as he was let into every mikvah throughout the day on Friday. Using Mendel words of wisdom, is the most ironic statement you can make. Sure Mendel will tell you - don't talk about others.
This speech is another way of saying "keep brushing it under the tables" - same message different strategies.

If this is true, the irony is beyond belief!

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 10:35 PM cyrano Says:

Oy Veh, are we in trouble. A homeless person has become our moreh derech?

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 11:18 PM MarkTwain2 Says:

The problem starts when the Rabbonim are silent about severe issues in our community. From there blogging is sometimes the only path to raise awareness of these issues to the public. From there, the blogging is overdone and a Rov must admonish. If all blogging is then stopped, the cycle begins anew. So, is it enough to just admonish blogging?

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 Nov 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM Sholi-Katz Says:

Reply to #30  
Wow Says:

If this is true, the irony is beyond belief!

Ask Anyone who is between 45-60 and grew up in Willy - We had "skinny Jimmy", "cupcake lady" and also "Mendele the Chazer". It Willy it was no secret. When he got older he became a homeless bag man and he did not do the old stuff.
I ask why use this guy as our Moreh Derech, and look up to his Pearls of Wisdom,
when he ruined so many kids?.....And quote him at the Agudah Dinner?
I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his past. If he is, I can't figure this one out.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 12:12 AM Secular Says:

“Rabbosai, we have become a society of kikkers, of lookers,” said the Novominsker. “We look at yenem and we make comments. There are many self-appointed mevinim amongst us unfortunately, ready to sound off on anything and everything. These mevinim have no compunctions about opinionating about whatever goes on in the Jewish world, in the Torah world especially and very often, as a result of that curse of technology called the blogs, they engage in cynicism and zilzul talmidei chochomim and downright chutzpah.”

Interesting That Rabbonim today do much the same thing. "opining -not opinionating; on politics, technology, science and medicine WITHOUT being Mevinim. Having met Mendel Weiss on numerous occasions it seemed obvious that he suffered from mental illness, most likely schizophrenia. The fact that he is viewed as some sort of Tzadik Nistar/Holy recluse, exposes how out of touch and IGNORANT people are. Moreover, it's a black eye on the Borough Park community, that this infirm man was allowed to roam the streets homeless wallowing in his own filth and wasn't properly cared for.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 12:39 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Sholi-Katz Says:

Ask Anyone who is between 45-60 and grew up in Willy - We had "skinny Jimmy", "cupcake lady" and also "Mendele the Chazer". It Willy it was no secret. When he got older he became a homeless bag man and he did not do the old stuff.
I ask why use this guy as our Moreh Derech, and look up to his Pearls of Wisdom,
when he ruined so many kids?.....And quote him at the Agudah Dinner?
I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his past. If he is, I can't figure this one out.

"I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his [Mendele the Chazer's] past.."

You are the second or third poster to suggest the Rav was an accomplice or even complicit with this guy's perverted past and abuse of children in Mikvah....again, there is no basis for such accusations....

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 02:33 AM mc613 Says:

It is unfortunate that vosisneias allows comments from people like Sholi-Katz. (Just take a look on how many people come to his Kever for yeshuos since he was niftar.) I was Zoche to be meshamesh this Tzadik for the past few years. All he wanted was for someone to Daven with him since he was not able to see in a siddur do to blindness from Diabetes. I was Zoche to see many great things from him. I would like to add a comment to strengthen the Novaminsker Rov. Reb Mendel once quoted that it says in the Mishna הוי דן את כל אדם לכף זכות. He asked how is it possible to be דן someone לכף זכות if you can see on his forehead that he did an עבירה? He answered that this is specifically what the Mishnah is telling you. Even though you see negativity your should still be דן him לכף זכות.
I once asked Reb mendel מחילה that maby I was מבזה him. He answered me הלווי you were מבזה me.
יהי זכרו ברוך

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 06:16 AM rationalman Says:

Reply to #3  
Boochie Says:

People question and offer their critique on the system simply because it's not being explained well......i don't see that as the fault of the layman.......i find that the fault of the leaders

If people feel the system is broken then the leaders need to better explain why it's not broken

People have valid questions and they deserve valid answers

I concur...it sounds like the same mantra preached by the taliban....seldom would you hear a rabbi comment that he erred...and why do we have a system that encourages all too sit and learn even though we know most of the boys don't have the ability to sit and really learn full time...why should they start life as a faker....this system never occured in previous generations...that is a contributor to the cynicism and lack of trust in gedolim

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 07:10 AM Ina Says:

Reply to #33  
Sholi-Katz Says:

Ask Anyone who is between 45-60 and grew up in Willy - We had "skinny Jimmy", "cupcake lady" and also "Mendele the Chazer". It Willy it was no secret. When he got older he became a homeless bag man and he did not do the old stuff.
I ask why use this guy as our Moreh Derech, and look up to his Pearls of Wisdom,
when he ruined so many kids?.....And quote him at the Agudah Dinner?
I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his past. If he is, I can't figure this one out.

Are you saying that Mendel the Chazer was Mendel Weiss? From the day he died, all I have been saying is let's stop trying to say he was some kind of lamed vav tzadik. Clearly, he was a very sick individual!

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 09:13 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #38  
Ina Says:

Are you saying that Mendel the Chazer was Mendel Weiss? From the day he died, all I have been saying is let's stop trying to say he was some kind of lamed vav tzadik. Clearly, he was a very sick individual!

Yes...apparently that was what the Novominsker Rebbe was trying to say. A man who in his early life was known as "Mendel the Chazer" because of widely known inappropriate behavior in mikvos all over BP and Willy, in later life did tshuvah and became known as R Mendele, Z'TL, a highly respected ben Torah, lamadan and baal musar.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 09:20 AM mark meyer appel Says:

While I respect the rebbe as a torah scholar it is sad that his group of aguda folks are the ones responsbile for us bloggers to blog.It Is obvious that we have made a large impact in many areas like child safety by bringing abuse to the forefront,the rebbes continued obsession with bloggers prove our point. I am still waiting for you to list qualified rabbonim that one can turn to in time of a crime against our children We are still waiting for a call to fingerprint our staff at all yeshivos REBBE, don't le youre board mislead you the time to save klal yisroal is now not with talk but solid action I want to see a aguda convention with action and opening of your hearths if you want respect from a dissapointed klal you have to do more

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 10:39 AM BuckyinWisconsin Says:

Reply to #33  
Sholi-Katz Says:

Ask Anyone who is between 45-60 and grew up in Willy - We had "skinny Jimmy", "cupcake lady" and also "Mendele the Chazer". It Willy it was no secret. When he got older he became a homeless bag man and he did not do the old stuff.
I ask why use this guy as our Moreh Derech, and look up to his Pearls of Wisdom,
when he ruined so many kids?.....And quote him at the Agudah Dinner?
I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his past. If he is, I can't figure this one out.

For some reason, I think you are telling the truth. I also am always mystified about how people try to find "wisdom" coming from homeless people. Hollywood does it all the time, but that is Hollywood. People are homeless because they are mentally ill. This story is appalling though, to think that he was quoting him. In his defense, I am sure he do not know about these allegations.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 10:41 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Sholi-Katz Says:

Ask Anyone who is between 45-60 and grew up in Willy - We had "skinny Jimmy", "cupcake lady" and also "Mendele the Chazer". It Willy it was no secret. When he got older he became a homeless bag man and he did not do the old stuff.
I ask why use this guy as our Moreh Derech, and look up to his Pearls of Wisdom,
when he ruined so many kids?.....And quote him at the Agudah Dinner?
I truly hope the Noveminsker is not aware of his past. If he is, I can't figure this one out.

The internet will set you free.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #41  
BuckyinWisconsin Says:

For some reason, I think you are telling the truth. I also am always mystified about how people try to find "wisdom" coming from homeless people. Hollywood does it all the time, but that is Hollywood. People are homeless because they are mentally ill. This story is appalling though, to think that he was quoting him. In his defense, I am sure he do not know about these allegations.

Many of the greatest chazal were literally "homeless" and survived on the handouts from their talmidim and yet we don't reject their holdings on matters of halacha and musar. One hundred years from now, its possible that the writings of R' Mendel, Ztl, will be scrutinized and analyzed by every chavrusah searching for insight on some arcane inyan of how we should be living our lives

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM Yerachmiel Says:

Reply to #28  
Anonymous Says:

What kind of vile lashon haroah is this? There is no credible evidence that the heilege Novominsker ever knowingly abused children or allowed this guy "Mendel the Chazer" to molest children. I very much doubt the Novominsker issued orders that Mendel be allow to enter any mikvah with the intention to harm children. You should seek mechilah from both the Novominsker and the niftar.

The Novominsker Rebbe had a chance to help get Kolko out of teaching in Torah Temimah. He said, sorry, I live in Boro Park and this is in Flatbush. the Blog of Feivie Mendlowitz (grandson of R. Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz) got Kolko out of chinuch and into the criminal courts. The novocaine of not looking is no solution to the problem of molesting. Blogging is a lot of work. They would not do it if the leadership did the right thing on their own.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 01:08 PM Shlomo2 Says:

It's interesting that the Novominsker would say this, given that some might say the same about his failure to engage teh Agudah in self-criticism.

Instead, he uses his platform to opine about (for instance) Har HaBayis and condemn those who believe they have valid halachic basis for going up there.

Unlike the Novominsker, those who o up present actual sources and analysis to support their position. The Novominsker just points a finger and screams.

It's not for me to say who is right, but I find it strange that he would not realize that the very things he says about others could be said about him as well.

Did he say ANYTHING that was backed up by a source or ANYTHING that addresses internal problems in our own communities? Did he offer ANY solution to ANYTHING? Did he do ANYTHING other than recite what's wrong with everyone else?

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 01:52 PM Ina Says:

Reply to #43  
Anonymous Says:

Many of the greatest chazal were literally "homeless" and survived on the handouts from their talmidim and yet we don't reject their holdings on matters of halacha and musar. One hundred years from now, its possible that the writings of R' Mendel, Ztl, will be scrutinized and analyzed by every chavrusah searching for insight on some arcane inyan of how we should be living our lives

Mendel Weiss was clearly a not well individual. Please, give me a break!

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 11:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #38  
Ina Says:

Are you saying that Mendel the Chazer was Mendel Weiss? From the day he died, all I have been saying is let's stop trying to say he was some kind of lamed vav tzadik. Clearly, he was a very sick individual!

Mendel C was a nistar. Such things you don't do in public. A leader like Perlow is supposed to be discerning. That he did not know makes me wonder what else he does or does not know.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 02:50 PM Question Says:

Reply to #36  
mc613 Says:

It is unfortunate that vosisneias allows comments from people like Sholi-Katz. (Just take a look on how many people come to his Kever for yeshuos since he was niftar.) I was Zoche to be meshamesh this Tzadik for the past few years. All he wanted was for someone to Daven with him since he was not able to see in a siddur do to blindness from Diabetes. I was Zoche to see many great things from him. I would like to add a comment to strengthen the Novaminsker Rov. Reb Mendel once quoted that it says in the Mishna הוי דן את כל אדם לכף זכות. He asked how is it possible to be דן someone לכף זכות if you can see on his forehead that he did an עבירה? He answered that this is specifically what the Mishnah is telling you. Even though you see negativity your should still be דן him לכף זכות.
I once asked Reb mendel מחילה that maby I was מבזה him. He answered me הלווי you were מבזה me.
יהי זכרו ברוך

Unfortunately, it is quite common for people to think that their having known someone demnstrates that the person in question could not have been a child molester or the like.

Perhaps you could share with us what your credentials are to know that someone could not have been a molester nor mentally ill.

Thanks

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 03:21 PM Ina Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Mendel C was a nistar. Such things you don't do in public. A leader like Perlow is supposed to be discerning. That he did not know makes me wonder what else he does or does not know.

"Mendel C was a nistar...."

I am sorry, but would you please explain what you mean by that? Don't you think a nistar is of sane mind? This man was insane!

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 10:14 PM Anonymous Says:

The Noveminsker Rebbe is preaching a contradiction right in the same speech. On the one hand he pontificates 'do not make comments'; 'do not blog'; 'keep your opinion to yourself''; On the other hand he talks about and glorifies a man, known and called MENDEL C-----R, (for good reason), and then the Rebbe will expect that no comments be made about his comments about this man, now dead. Let the dead rest in peace. Do not glorify a man when kids on the street and people in shuls know otherwise.
I knew him all to well, way back when; and I fed and dressed him, etc. It was well known that when he came into a shul, davening had to stop al pi halocha, untill he left. There was nothing mystical about him. It hurts me to say all this, only because I cannot see our kids be duped in reading and hearing about the glorification of this troubled man. It would behoove for the Rebbe to use others as an example for our youth.

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 Nov 17, 2014 at 10:52 PM Anonymous Says:

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Ina Says:

"Mendel C was a nistar...."

I am sorry, but would you please explain what you mean by that? Don't you think a nistar is of sane mind? This man was insane!

Why was he insane? Did you know that he saw little people in his soda cup and they would speak to him. And what the Rebbe quoted R' Mendel was not the only wisdom he would say; he used to say "mir daf visin ven Tzu lofen. . . . . "

The rest Country Yossi made it into a song.

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