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Washington - Obama Tells Parents To Get Kids Vaccinated To Stem Measles

Published on: February 1, 2015 11:36 PM
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File: President Barack Obama greets doctors and nurses in the East Room of the White House, March 3, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Chuck Kennedy)File: President Barack Obama greets doctors and nurses in the East Room of the White House, March 3, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Chuck Kennedy)

Washington - President Barack Obama is urging parents to get their children vaccinated in the face of a measles outbreak that has infected more than 100 people in the United States.
In excerpts from an interview with NBC News that will air on Monday, Obama said measles was a preventable disease.

He said that while he understood there were families concerned about the effect of vaccinations, he said the science was “pretty indisputable.”

“We’ve looked at this again and again. There is every reason to get vaccinated, but there aren’t reasons to not,” he said, adding: “You should get your kids vaccinated.”

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He said the larger the group of unvaccinated people, the more vulnerable it made small infants and people who cannot get vaccinations because of health issues.

There have been 91 measles cases in California, with at least 58 of those epidemiologically linked to a cluster that began at Disneyland in December. More than a dozen other cases have been confirmed in 13 other U.S. states and in Mexico.

No deaths have been reported in connection with the outbreak, which public health officials suspect began when an infected person from outside the United States visited Disneyland in Anaheim, California, between Dec. 15 and Dec. 20.

The measles outbreak has renewed a debate over the so-called anti-vaccination movement in which fears about potential side effects of vaccines, fueled by now-debunked research suggesting a link to autism, have led a small minority of parents to refuse to allow their children to be inoculated.

Some parents also opt not to have their children vaccinated for religious or other reasons.‎



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 Feb 02, 2015 at 12:54 AM No-Fringe Says:

Schools should not non-vaccinated children into class.

Yes, Yeshivot and day-schools, too. Especially Yeshivot where children learn in big Bais Medrashim for hours at a time.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 05:12 AM a father Says:

Infants and really sick kids (leukemia survivors or damaged imuno systems) are at greater risk due to lack of vaccinations by kids who should be getting their shots.

The only way to protect the weaker kids is called 'heard protection' where mmr outbreak becomea statistically less likely as there are less kids susceptible.

Please vaccinate your children on the APA recommended schedule most pediatricians rely on.

You can protect the lives of your own children and the weakest in our community also.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 06:30 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #2  
a father Says:

Infants and really sick kids (leukemia survivors or damaged imuno systems) are at greater risk due to lack of vaccinations by kids who should be getting their shots.

The only way to protect the weaker kids is called 'heard protection' where mmr outbreak becomea statistically less likely as there are less kids susceptible.

Please vaccinate your children on the APA recommended schedule most pediatricians rely on.

You can protect the lives of your own children and the weakest in our community also.

I've heard of herd protection but I've never heard of heard protection.

Is that a new anti lashon horah campaign?

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 09:18 AM yosher Says:

Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a? He and his Rebbetzin think vaccinations are a bluff? Who should we listen to?

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 10:20 AM DavidCohen Says:

Reply to #4  
yosher Says:

Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a? He and his Rebbetzin think vaccinations are a bluff? Who should we listen to?

Please tell me that that was sarcasm. Please!

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 10:49 AM Esther Says:

Reply to #4  
yosher Says:

Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a? He and his Rebbetzin think vaccinations are a bluff? Who should we listen to?

that's impossible. no one with half a brain can deny the science behind vaccines.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 11:25 AM TM11219 Says:

If Obama's telling us to vaccinate, that's another reason not to!!! The MMR vaccine is deadly!! Would you take autism or ADHD over measles?? Measles is just a childhood disease that passes in a couple of days.. And # 5, Harav Kemenetsky Shlita does urge not to vaccinate.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 11:32 AM ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Reply to #7  
TM11219 Says:

If Obama's telling us to vaccinate, that's another reason not to!!! The MMR vaccine is deadly!! Would you take autism or ADHD over measles?? Measles is just a childhood disease that passes in a couple of days.. And # 5, Harav Kemenetsky Shlita does urge not to vaccinate.

Luckily, not a single peer reviewed studied has EVER demonstrated the link between vaccination and autism. Thousands of studies however have ruled out any causation. Of course, why would you follow thousands of scientific studies, when you can latch on to a single study that was retracted, and the physician who wrote it banned from practicing medicine.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 11:52 AM anotherview Says:

I second that - if Obama says it- one more reason not too:) Although I do vaccinate my kids this is a one sided uninformed article. Many of the kids getting/passing the measles disease are already vaccinated. You are still a carrier so it is not protecting those at risk by vaccinating. Vaccination comes with many other side affects than the 'supposed autism' . Do your research and make an informed decision but to say that anyone with half a brain would vaccinate is a very wrong assumption. Most non vaccinating are way more educated on the issue then those that do.
(they just follow the 'herd opinion' most times)

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Esther Says:

that's impossible. no one with half a brain can deny the science behind vaccines.

you mean the published science- dig deeper.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 12:11 PM another view Says:

Reply to #6  
Esther Says:

that's impossible. no one with half a brain can deny the science behind vaccines.

not really- at least the published science- dig deeper you might be surprised if you are open minded.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 12:14 PM DavidCohen Says:

Reply to #7  
TM11219 Says:

If Obama's telling us to vaccinate, that's another reason not to!!! The MMR vaccine is deadly!! Would you take autism or ADHD over measles?? Measles is just a childhood disease that passes in a couple of days.. And # 5, Harav Kemenetsky Shlita does urge not to vaccinate.

Autism? Really? You do realize that that myth has been discredited and disproven repeatedly, and criminal charges filed against the doctor who started it?

Answer this question honestly. When you have a headache, do you take a bird, cut its throat with a silver coin, and hung it on your doorpost (Gittin)? Or do you take aspirin? For a mortal wound, would you uses peppers and vinegar (Avodah Zorah), or would you go get it stitched at a hospital? For a nosebleed to you find a Kohein named Levi and write hs named backwards (Gittin), or do you use pressure and maybe cauterization if needed?

Bottom line, do you trusty science and medicine to help deliver healthy babies? Do you use any medications? Do you take any measures to manage blood pressure or cholesterol or diabetes or ...?

If you really distrust vaccinations, then you must distrust the science that created them, the same science that drives all modern medicine. So, are you consistent in your neanderthal denials, or are you a selfish hypocrite who is endangering the lives of others?

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 01:33 PM TM11219 Says:

Reply to #8  
ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Luckily, not a single peer reviewed studied has EVER demonstrated the link between vaccination and autism. Thousands of studies however have ruled out any causation. Of course, why would you follow thousands of scientific studies, when you can latch on to a single study that was retracted, and the physician who wrote it banned from practicing medicine.

Of course you can't find the studies linking autism & MMR cuz the CDC hides it from the public. Never mind studies, do you know how many Yiddishe parents saw their kids regress into autism within a couple of days of receiving the vaccine?

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 12:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
anotherview Says:

I second that - if Obama says it- one more reason not too:) Although I do vaccinate my kids this is a one sided uninformed article. Many of the kids getting/passing the measles disease are already vaccinated. You are still a carrier so it is not protecting those at risk by vaccinating. Vaccination comes with many other side affects than the 'supposed autism' . Do your research and make an informed decision but to say that anyone with half a brain would vaccinate is a very wrong assumption. Most non vaccinating are way more educated on the issue then those that do.
(they just follow the 'herd opinion' most times)

Don't confuse being educated with being scientifically educated. Most of the non-vaccinating are upper middle class white people who get their medical information from the clerk in the Whole Foods vitamin aisle. They buy homeopathic medicines (aka water), any supplement that they heard from "someone" helps to "support" something, shun gluten though they often cannot explain to you exactly what gluten is or bothered to get tested to see whether they actually are allergic to it, and think that their precious kids' bodies are full of "toxins", not that they have actually tested for this or have any scientific basis for it. Sorry, but while there is a small risk with every medical procedure, there is a much greater risk for both the person and for society in refusing vaccination. We don't let people store explosives or toxic chemicals in their garage because it could harm their neighbors. We shouldn't let their children be walking biological warfare machines who could kill any number of their neighbors with their infectious diseases.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 03:30 PM Rafuel Says:

Reply to #13  
TM11219 Says:

Of course you can't find the studies linking autism & MMR cuz the CDC hides it from the public. Never mind studies, do you know how many Yiddishe parents saw their kids regress into autism within a couple of days of receiving the vaccine?

If the tin foil hat fits, wear it.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 03:26 PM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #4  
yosher Says:

Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a? He and his Rebbetzin think vaccinations are a bluff? Who should we listen to?

"Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a?"

So, tell me, from where did Rav Shmuel earn his medical degree to make such statements that even the Salk vaccine is a fraud? Isn't he able to see that we have completely wiped out polio in this country because of Dr. Salk? But, of course, science means nothing to people like you, who take on the exact same השקפות as the extremist נוצרי fundamentalists. I mean, we can't possibly be less Frum than they are- right? Today all of a sudden, ראשי ישיבה have morphed into בעלי מופת.

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 Feb 02, 2015 at 06:03 PM yosher Says:

Reply to #16  
bewhiskered Says:

"Does he think he knows better than Ha-Rav Hagaon Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlit"a?"

So, tell me, from where did Rav Shmuel earn his medical degree to make such statements that even the Salk vaccine is a fraud? Isn't he able to see that we have completely wiped out polio in this country because of Dr. Salk? But, of course, science means nothing to people like you, who take on the exact same השקפות as the extremist נוצרי fundamentalists. I mean, we can't possibly be less Frum than they are- right? Today all of a sudden, ראשי ישיבה have morphed into בעלי מופת.

You missed the sarcasm; I think he says absurd things often. He is an embarrassment.

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 Feb 03, 2015 at 08:58 AM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #17  
yosher Says:

You missed the sarcasm; I think he says absurd things often. He is an embarrassment.

"I think he says absurd things often. He is an embarrassment."

So sorry about missing the sarcasm. But, you are correct that Rav Shmuel has made some very embarrassing statements. Previously, he publicly stated that he didn't think there were any medical problems with מציצה בפה. And now, this absurdity dealing with vaccinations. What inevitably happens to these so called מנהיגי הדור, is that through the fantasized veneration of their תלמידים, individuals such as Rav Shmuel become seduced to the point where they actually believe themselves to be בעלי מופת. For those old enough to remember, in times when we had real גדולים, such embarrassing statements were never made by them.

Some years ago, a Staten Islander told me that he went to Rav R'uvain to ask him what kind of an automobile he should buy, and Rav R'uvain actually gave him an answer. I had no idea that Rav R'uvain had a degree in automotive engineering. Supposedly, when it comes to this דור עקש ופתלתול, the more ridiculous, the better.

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 Feb 03, 2015 at 10:50 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Luckily, not a single peer reviewed studied has EVER demonstrated the link between vaccination and autism. Thousands of studies however have ruled out any causation. Of course, why would you follow thousands of scientific studies, when you can latch on to a single study that was retracted, and the physician who wrote it banned from practicing medicine.

People who don't vaccinate do not base it all on one study or only on the autism link. There are many other negative factors. It takes time to be educated about this but we'll worth it.

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 Feb 03, 2015 at 10:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
DavidCohen Says:

Autism? Really? You do realize that that myth has been discredited and disproven repeatedly, and criminal charges filed against the doctor who started it?

Answer this question honestly. When you have a headache, do you take a bird, cut its throat with a silver coin, and hung it on your doorpost (Gittin)? Or do you take aspirin? For a mortal wound, would you uses peppers and vinegar (Avodah Zorah), or would you go get it stitched at a hospital? For a nosebleed to you find a Kohein named Levi and write hs named backwards (Gittin), or do you use pressure and maybe cauterization if needed?

Bottom line, do you trusty science and medicine to help deliver healthy babies? Do you use any medications? Do you take any measures to manage blood pressure or cholesterol or diabetes or ...?

If you really distrust vaccinations, then you must distrust the science that created them, the same science that drives all modern medicine. So, are you consistent in your neanderthal denials, or are you a selfish hypocrite who is endangering the lives of others?

It's not an all or nothing world/ when I have a headache I don't run to Tylenol and actually my 5 children kah have only been on antibiotics 2x total. It's your job by Hashem to use when necessary- antibiotics are not always best and doc advice not always the healthiest.
A more educated and well balanced person reads- educates themselves and uses what is truly necessary. You may think vaccinations fall under that category but many educated dont.

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 Feb 03, 2015 at 10:58 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Don't confuse being educated with being scientifically educated. Most of the non-vaccinating are upper middle class white people who get their medical information from the clerk in the Whole Foods vitamin aisle. They buy homeopathic medicines (aka water), any supplement that they heard from "someone" helps to "support" something, shun gluten though they often cannot explain to you exactly what gluten is or bothered to get tested to see whether they actually are allergic to it, and think that their precious kids' bodies are full of "toxins", not that they have actually tested for this or have any scientific basis for it. Sorry, but while there is a small risk with every medical procedure, there is a much greater risk for both the person and for society in refusing vaccination. We don't let people store explosives or toxic chemicals in their garage because it could harm their neighbors. We shouldn't let their children be walking biological warfare machines who could kill any number of their neighbors with their infectious diseases.

You are correct in saying they are upper/middle class people. They are also educated people who make a decision not on a whim or blindly following protocol or doc orders.
You are incorrect in trying to say they get their info via clerks and hogwash. They spend a lot of money time and effort in keeping their family healthy. They know a lot more then you about what instantly makes a diff to the health and strength of our immune system. They just don't plug one medicine after another for one symptom afte another. You may not agree but belittling them down to rediculous people is just outright wrong.

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