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Jerusalem - Orthodox Jewish Man Stabs Several People At Jerusalem Gay Parade (Photos)

Published on: July 30, 2015 12:11 PM
Last updated on: July 30, 2015 01:24 PM
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An ultra-Orthodox Jew attacks people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem, Israel. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)An ultra-Orthodox Jew attacks people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem, Israel. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)

Jerusalem - An Orthodox Jewish assailant stabbed and wounded six participants in the annual Gay Pride march in Jerusalem on Thursday, police said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned “as a most serious incident” what was the worst attack in years on the event in Jerusalem, a city where the religious population is more prominent than in other parts of Israel.

Marchers numbering about 5,000 and waving banners were heading down an avenue when an ultra-Orthodox man jumped into the crowd and plunged a knife into some of them, witnesses said.

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Police arrested the suspected perpetrator and were questioning him, police spokesman Assi Aharoni said.

The man had recently been released from prison after serving a sentence for stabbing several people at a gay pride parade in 2005, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said.

Samri said the attacker, Yishai Schlissel, was arrested.

Police and medics said the assailant had wounded six people. Two were taken to hospital in serious condition.

“I saw an ultra-Orthodox youth stabbing everyone in his way,” said Shai Aviyor, a witness interviewed on Israel’s Channel 2 television.

“We heard people screaming, everyone ran for cover, and there were bloodied people on the ground,” Aviyor said.

Police arrest Yishai Schlissel suspected of stabbing six people at the annual Jerusalem pride parade. Schlissel was just released from a 10 year jail term for stabbing three people at gay pride parade in 2005. July 30, 2015. Photo byFLASH90Police arrest Yishai Schlissel suspected of stabbing six people at the annual Jerusalem pride parade. Schlissel was just released from a 10 year jail term for stabbing three people at gay pride parade in 2005. July 30, 2015. Photo byFLASH90

The march, which attracts thousands of participants, has long been a focus of tension between Israel’s predominantly secular majority and the ultra-Orthodox Jewish minority, who object to public displays of homosexuality.

While the event takes place annually in the more gay friendly business hub of Tel Aviv without incident, in Jerusalem, where the religious population is more prominent, violence has erupted in the past.

The march is held in the largely Jewish side of the divided city. Palestinians predominate in occupied East Jerusalem.

Oded Fried, the head of a leading gay rights group, said the attack would not deter the movement.

“Our struggle for equality only intensifies in the face of such events,” he said.

Netanyahu said in a statement: “This is a most serious incident. We will prosecute those responsible to the full extent of the law. Freedom of individual choice is a basic value in Israel.”

Anti-gay activists from the far-right Jewish group Lehava were protesting at the parade.

Lehava released a statement ahead of the pride parade, stating that it would not allow the event “to pass quietly.”

Ultra-Orthodox Jew Yishai Schlissel walks through a Gay Pride parade and is just about to pull a knife from under his coat and start stabbing people in Jerusalem, Thursday, July 30, 2015. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)Ultra-Orthodox Jew Yishai Schlissel walks through a Gay Pride parade and is just about to pull a knife from under his coat and start stabbing people in Jerusalem, Thursday, July 30, 2015. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)
Police and rescue personnel tend to young Israelis wounded in a stabbing attack while participating in the annual pride parade in Jerusalem on July 30, 2015. Six people were stabbed. The suspect in the attack, an ultra-Orthodox man who was protesting against the parade, was arrested. Photo by Miriam Alster/FLASH90Police and rescue personnel tend to young Israelis wounded in a stabbing attack while participating in the annual pride parade in Jerusalem on July 30, 2015. Six people were stabbed. The suspect in the attack, an ultra-Orthodox man who was protesting against the parade, was arrested. Photo by Miriam Alster/FLASH90
People disarm an Orthodox Jewish assailant after he stabbed and injured six participants at an annual gay pride parade in Jerusalem on Thursday, police and witnesses said July 30, 2015. People disarm an Orthodox Jewish assailant after he stabbed and injured six participants at an annual gay pride parade in Jerusalem on Thursday, police and witnesses said July 30, 2015.
Security forces reach for a knife-wielding ultra-Orthodox Jew attacking people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (Credit: AP)Security forces reach for a knife-wielding ultra-Orthodox Jew attacking people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (Credit: AP)
Plainclothes Israeli police detain an-ultra Orthodox Jew after he attacked people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (Credit: AP)Plainclothes Israeli police detain an-ultra Orthodox Jew after he attacked people with a knife during a Gay Pride parade Thursday, July 30, 2015 in central Jerusalem. Israeli police said several people were stabbed. (Credit: AP)
Israeli Policewoman giving first aid  to a wounded man after he was attacked by an Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem's annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)Israeli Policewoman giving first aid to a wounded man after he was attacked by an Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem’s annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)
A wounded Israeli gets medical treatment after she was attacked by an Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem's annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)A wounded Israeli gets medical treatment after she was attacked by an Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem’s annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)
A wounded Israeli gets first aid after she was attacked by Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem's annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)A wounded Israeli gets first aid after she was attacked by Israeli extremist, during the Gay Pride march in Jerusalem,  Israel, 30 July 2015. An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed four marchers in Jerusalem’s annual gay parade and was arrested, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said. (Credit: EPA)
People disarm an Orthodox Jewish assailant shortly after he stabbed participants at the annual Gay Pride parade in Jerusalem July 30, 2015. The man stabbed and wounded six participants during the march on Thursday, police said.  (Credit: REUTERS)People disarm an Orthodox Jewish assailant shortly after he stabbed participants at the annual Gay Pride parade in Jerusalem July 30, 2015. The man stabbed and wounded six participants during the march on Thursday, police said.  (Credit: REUTERS)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews protest in the Mea Shearim neighbourhood of Jerusalem against the annual Jerusalem pride parade. July 30, 2015.  Photo by Yonatan Sindel /Flash 90Ultra-Orthodox Jews protest in the Mea Shearim neighbourhood of Jerusalem against the annual Jerusalem pride parade. July 30, 2015.  Photo by Yonatan Sindel /Flash 90


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1

 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:26 PM Yoely Says:

לא תרצח!!!!

2

 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:29 PM Just Wondering.... Says:

If he was a member of the Neturi Karta?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:28 PM Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

4

 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM FranZ Says:

I agree with number 3. He said it all correctly.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:51 PM shvigger Says:

Kudos to Pinchas ben Eluzer ben Aharon Hacohen

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 12:52 PM Rafuel Says:

Righteous indignation it's called, isn't it?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:02 PM PMOinFL Says:

Calling this violent piece of filth an Orthodox Jew is in insulting to every Jew. He is an animal who dresses like us and nothing more. There is no yiddishe neshomah inside that bag of flesh. He is a blood-thirsty beast who cares nothing for H" or man. I cannot believe he was ever allowed out of prison after his last attempt at mass murder. Stick him a box forever.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:07 PM BuckyinWisconsin Says:

Obviously a very deranged man, why he was not in prison or an asylum is beyond me. The fact that he is "Orthodox" is really not relevant.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:08 PM I don't get it Says:

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to these abominable people who publicly flaunt their sinfulness and encourage others to take pride in rebelling against HKB"H.

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to this parade and any other like it anywhere in the world.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:17 PM HankM Says:

What are we Arabs?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:24 PM Yossi Says:

The aveira of Toeiva is equal in severity to the aveira of murder. BOTH are Yehareig v'al Ya'avor.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:27 PM fat36 Says:

They forgot to say a mental Orthodox Jew

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:31 PM Curiosity Says:

This guy is obviously deranged (just look at the picture). But there is no excuse for hosting this parade in Jerusalem except to intentionally provoke such incidents and the sentiments that fuel them.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:33 PM commonsense99 Says:

He is nebech a pyc job, He should be lock away in the funny farm till he dies

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:34 PM Dave Says:

The marchers are engaged in a capital offense.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:35 PM albroker Says:

better to save the knife for a pere odom.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:15 PM ashoag Says:

קנאים פוגעים בהם
לא נחתם גזר דין המבול עד שכתבו שטר כתובה לזכר

ההלכה אוסרת ומתייחסת לנישואים חד-מיניים "כמעשה ארץ מצרים אשר ישבתם בה לא תעשו", דהיינו שהמצרים היו עושים שאיש נושא איש ואישה נושאת אישה. במסכת חולין (צב ב) מובא שאף בני נח נצטוו על כך "שאין כותבין כתובה לזכרים". יחס שלילי נוסף לנישואים חד-מיניים מובא בויקרא רבה (כג ט): "רב הונא בשם רבי יוסי אמר: דור המבול לא נמחו מן העולם אלא על ידי שכתבו גומסיות (שטרות נישואין) לזכר ולנקבה", דהיינו שדור המבול נענש משום שסידרו נישואין בין שני זכרים ובין שתי נקבות.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:18 PM Rafuel Says:

Reply to #3  
Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

Don't overdramatize. The Jewish people didn't end when Pinchas killed Zimri, nor when Masasiahu killed some Jewish shmendrik who was going to make an offering to Zeus. (No judges were involved in either case.) If anything, we became stronger. So I comfortably predict that we will survive the outburst of the man whose intentions were pure but whose efficiency was lacking - all of the 6 rshoim he attempted to remove are still alive.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

Stop being so foolish. No from person could condone such an act of violence. Clearly this man is mentally deranged, and I suspect also with the neturei karta, all of whom are deranged as well. Unfortunately this lone incident is going to bring out all the vicious haters of frum people (let's hear it, yonosonw, Bewhiskered, and all you other bigots) who use every conversation to bash the frum.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:33 PM Anonymous Says:

So one meshuggene does this and all chareidim will be tarred the same way?

Not only that it was the same person from 2013 who was just released from jail.

And I see that no one seems bothered by the actuall parade which is terrible. And goes through chareidi areas to specifically try to aggravate them.

Nor has anyone noted that almost all the emergency personnel attending to the injured are chareidim.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:33 PM The_Truth Says:

While I condem any kind of violence, what are they doing this is Jerusalem - a PREDOMINANTLY Orthodox city, it's just going to rile up the extremists.
But why are they doing it in west jerusalem? If they so free loving, march in east jerusalem. What do you think happens in Gaza to openly gay people? They executed them in cold blood. No one is preventing them being gay if that's what they want, to transgress the Torah, but parading it in public is asking for trouble. There is free choice and then there is parading your lifestyle. How would anyone like it if there was a heterosexual parade promoting underage, illicit and non marriage relationships? Or pedophilea, all in the name of 'free speech' ?
Shame on them for doing this. Shame on us for allowing it to happen.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:35 PM He's netirei karte Says:

Reply to #3  
Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

This man doesn't represent how frimme yidden live their lives. While we do condemn a gay pride parade as it has no place in a Torah life and condones a way of life which is k'neged Halacha, we never shun the person, just his sinful acts.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
FranZ Says:

I agree with number 3. He said it all correctly.

Then you're just as naive and ignorant as he is.

25

 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:39 PM shmuelmoshe Says:

The man had recently been released from prison after serving a sentence for stabbing several people at a gay pride parade in 2005, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said.


Sounds like hes gonna get locked up and they will throw away the " Schlissel"

26

 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:40 PM Anonymous Says:

I'm shocked at how gullible and self righteous some of the posters here are. Do you really think you have to lecture about how what this maniac did was wrong? Do you really think any sane person here agrees with what he did, or applauds it? Only a self hating, frum-hating ignoramus would use this shameful act to paint all religious Jews as violent low lives, to be scolded. Get a life and get help for your hate.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:41 PM Babishka Says:

He stabbed people at the same parade10 years ago and just got out of prison. Law enforcement should have been monitoring his whereabouts during this event.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:41 PM Ayin_Tachas_Ayin Says:

קנאים פוגעין בו
Pinchas was rewarded with Kehuna and a parsha in his name - for a similar situation. I wouldn't do it myself - but can't condemn it either.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:44 PM yossi Says:

There's plenty of outrage over the stabbing. Where's the outrage over the public display of PRIDE in violating one of the most severe aveiros of the Torah? In Yerushalyim, people have a PARADE to show off how they are PROUD to commit an aveira which is yehareig v'al ya'avor. Why are the commentators here not upset about THAT?

NOTE: maybe this will be published even though my other comment was not?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:45 PM Facts1 Says:

Reply to #3  
Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

קנאים פוגעים בו

31

 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:49 PM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #9  
I don't get it Says:

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to these abominable people who publicly flaunt their sinfulness and encourage others to take pride in rebelling against HKB"H.

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to this parade and any other like it anywhere in the world.

Do you also blame women who get raped?

32

 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:50 PM bennyt Says:

Why is he any worse than Pinchas who killed Zimri when the punishment for mishkav zachar is death?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 01:57 PM rebchuna Says:

I think the gays should parade in East Jerusalem

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:01 PM ChareidiMan Says:

Anyone here that supports this guy or in any way or form "understands" this man, should be ashamed of himself and should never make fun of the Taliban, Isis or any other radical Islam group!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:03 PM yossi Says:

why did no one shoot him on the spot?
if it was an arab he would of been riddled with bullets

36

 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:09 PM OscarMadison Says:

Reply to #19  
Anonymous Says:

Stop being so foolish. No from person could condone such an act of violence. Clearly this man is mentally deranged, and I suspect also with the neturei karta, all of whom are deranged as well. Unfortunately this lone incident is going to bring out all the vicious haters of frum people (let's hear it, yonosonw, Bewhiskered, and all you other bigots) who use every conversation to bash the frum.

The Haredim are their own worst enemy. It's only a matter of time before one of these black hatred degenerates straps a bomb to himself.

The monsters in Beit Shemesh have more in common with Hamas than Moshe Rabbeinu.

37

 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
BuckyinWisconsin Says:

Obviously a very deranged man, why he was not in prison or an asylum is beyond me. The fact that he is "Orthodox" is really not relevant.

"The fact that he is "Orthodox" is really not relevant."

Of course, it's relevant. We disown our gay children and sit shiva for them while they are still alive. When a 10 year old comes to his parents and asks for help because he feels he is attracted to boys, the parents throw him out of the house.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:20 PM WolfishMusings Says:

Reply to #15  
Dave Says:

The marchers are engaged in a capital offense.

Don't be foolish. Marching in a parade is not a capital offense.

The Wolf

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:22 PM WolfishMusings Says:

Reply to #32  
bennyt Says:

Why is he any worse than Pinchas who killed Zimri when the punishment for mishkav zachar is death?

For starters, Pinchas did what he did while they were actually engaged in what they were going. These people were marching in a parade.

The Wolf

40

 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:25 PM Nirah-Lee Says:

Oshe ma'aseh k'zimri ubikesh schar k'pinchas!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:33 PM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #15  
Dave Says:

The marchers are engaged in a capital offense.

Marching is not a capital offence.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:34 PM Halachah & Kabbalah Says:

Reply to #3  
Rockofthepeg Says:

What is happening to us?

Isn't "You shall not murder" still one of the top 10 of Judaism?

Didn't we just read somewhere that we shall appoint judges - and only judges - to sit in judgment?

Have we forgotten that the same mindset that gave us the yellow star also created the pink triangle?

This is Just more proof that the end of Israel will not be an attack from the outside but disintegration from within. If our outside enemies really want to see the end of Israel and the Jewish people all they have to do is leave us alone to destroy ourselves by attacking each other. It's not so much "love your neigbour as yourself" as "Disapprove of your neighbour who is not like yourself and attack him or her" - Vayikra 19:18 and Rabbi Akiva ("Zeh Klal Gadol Batorah") be damned.

Every Rebbe worth the title should be calling out the goons from amongst their followers with explicit instructions to cease and desist this kind of behaviour.How many will?

Sadly, you as well as many commentators here are unaware that being gay is the most sever sins of the Torah and equivalent to killing a person (Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 151). Also the Kav Hayashar and Tur Even Ha'ezer (23:1) equivalates it to murder since they create demons which murder people. While this guy stabbed one person, gays are actually murdering many many more. If Israel would have been a Jewish country (not a country for Jews) with Torah law ruling the land, Bet Din would be commanded to put all these paraders into cherem (Ramban, Rambam, Mishna Brurah). Now placing someone in cherem is worse than stabbing someone.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:37 PM The_Beadle Says:

If people scream and shout that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, then it is the capital for all Israelis not just Chareidim.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:41 PM Curiosity Says:

Reply to #36  
OscarMadison Says:

The Haredim are their own worst enemy. It's only a matter of time before one of these black hatred degenerates straps a bomb to himself.

The monsters in Beit Shemesh have more in common with Hamas than Moshe Rabbeinu.

Your painting with an all encompassing brush reveals some serious animosity, underlying bitterness, and outright hatred that you should really speak to someone about.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:42 PM PMOinFL Says:

Why are so many people up in arms over this parade? Who cares? These are Jewish lives! And even if you believe that what they stand for is wrong, even if what they do in their bedrooms is the most abhorrent of acts, it does not matter. The point of this parade is not to celebrate forbidden sexual contact, but to celebrate their right as human beings to live free from fear and discrimination.

I don't love the fact that they march through Jerusalem either. But I do know that my heart swells with ahavas Yisroel when you see yidden show love to every human being even when their beliefs are counter to ours. Even when everything we know says "that person is doing something wrong" we still show them the love of H" and His Torah. That is what separates us from ISIS and Hamas and Fatah.

I believe that every protest and every act of violence pushes more and more Jews away from H". Not one of these people will be deterred in any way by the hate-filled speeches, protests and violence. In fact, we know the opposite is true.

If you want to reach out to people on a spiritual level it is done with a smile, a pure heart, and an outstretched hand.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 02:53 PM Mendlowitz Says:

I agree 100% with #25; if that psycho was an Arab, he would have been toast by now, and would have been shot dead! The Israeli police are going to have to stop handling these Hareidi psychos with kid gloves. Once they allow Hareidis to bully and pit at and assault women on public buses, and on EL, to beat up members of the IDF, to throw stones at cars and pedestrians with impunity, it is only a matter of time, before these violent extremists will kill someone. Israel is a country of laws; while I don't condone the gay lifestyle, the fact of the matter is that the Israeli government, gave the parade organizers the legal right to march. When Yitzchak Rabin was killed, Netanyahu stated that we must fight with ballots, and not bullets. Yet, there are some on this board who condone what that animal did, and have implied that it was the fault of the victims for provoking the extremists. Their ridiculous argument is tantamount for blaming the victim of a rape, for dressing immodestly. The honor for the most disgusting posting, belongs to "Schvigger", #5, who stated "Kudos" and gave that psycho's name. Hey, "Schvigger", I'm glad that you were not my Schvigger.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:

I don't get it. If we allow Jews to profane the Shabbos, why can't we allow gays to march? Both, we are told, deserve the death sentence.
Enlighten me please

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:03 PM yossi Says:

Reply to #45  
PMOinFL Says:

Why are so many people up in arms over this parade? Who cares? These are Jewish lives! And even if you believe that what they stand for is wrong, even if what they do in their bedrooms is the most abhorrent of acts, it does not matter. The point of this parade is not to celebrate forbidden sexual contact, but to celebrate their right as human beings to live free from fear and discrimination.

I don't love the fact that they march through Jerusalem either. But I do know that my heart swells with ahavas Yisroel when you see yidden show love to every human being even when their beliefs are counter to ours. Even when everything we know says "that person is doing something wrong" we still show them the love of H" and His Torah. That is what separates us from ISIS and Hamas and Fatah.

I believe that every protest and every act of violence pushes more and more Jews away from H". Not one of these people will be deterred in any way by the hate-filled speeches, protests and violence. In fact, we know the opposite is true.

If you want to reach out to people on a spiritual level it is done with a smile, a pure heart, and an outstretched hand.

your values are a little mixed up.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:04 PM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

I'm shocked at how gullible and self righteous some of the posters here are. Do you really think you have to lecture about how what this maniac did was wrong? Do you really think any sane person here agrees with what he did, or applauds it? Only a self hating, frum-hating ignoramus would use this shameful act to paint all religious Jews as violent low lives, to be scolded. Get a life and get help for your hate.

I share your sentiment. But I don't think most of the people here think that ALL frum Jews support what this guy did. But there are some that do, and there are many who find more sympathy for the murderous animal that did this than they do for his victims. I think, what you are really seeing, is other Orthodox Jews (myself included) saying that enough is enough when it comes to these violent, hate-filled fringe elements that have infected our communities like a cancer. They dress like us and speak like us, but they do not in any way shape or form represent us. What they do is desecrate H" and His Torah and make the world more and more dangerous for the rest of us. They are pure evil, and all of us of sound mind know it and we're no longer afraid to stand up to a group of people whose actions and sinas chinam endanger our families' lives.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:06 PM VoiceOfSanity Says:

Reply to #11  
Yossi Says:

The aveira of Toeiva is equal in severity to the aveira of murder. BOTH are Yehareig v'al Ya'avor.

Apikores and AM HAARETZ!!!! Where do you get off spewing such complete and utter stupidity?? Can you explain your pilpul with mekoros???? Rasha!!!!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:12 PM sane Says:

The Palestinians would never allow such a parade. So who do you think G-d would then prefer to give the territory to?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:36 PM elyeh Says:

Chillul Hashem

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:37 PM Wow! Says:

You have to be a real צדיק וקדוש
to do that.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #25  
shmuelmoshe Says:

The man had recently been released from prison after serving a sentence for stabbing several people at a gay pride parade in 2005, police spokeswoman Luba Samri said.


Sounds like hes gonna get locked up and they will throw away the " Schlissel"

Touche'! Excellent!!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:20 PM Realist77 Says:

His behavior was unacceptable and he was lucky he was not shot. Its too bad he wasn't. He was just released for a similar incident which he spent 10 years in prison. If he gets released again, he will once again recommit a similar offense. He is a terrorist. He could have killed many people.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:24 PM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #48  
yossi Says:

your values are a little mixed up.

MY values are mixed up? Because I believe with every fiber of my being that every Yid was with me at Har Sinai and that there is both good and evil to be found in everyone. Some of us accept the evils inside ourselves and others and do the best we can. Some of us, sadly, spend their lives living in a costume and a mask and save up their evil to harm others.

I have MUCH more respect for a man who commits sins against himself (intentionally or not) but loves H" and humanity with a pure heart, than a man who foolishly spends his time trying to be the most holy and pure he can be when he stands before H", but who is a fountain of wickedness and sinas chinam who looks to tear others down and push them away from H".

I would say, Mr. Yossi, that it is you who has lost his way. Nobody elected you as the judge over these people.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:27 PM Yossi Says:

Reply to #50  
VoiceOfSanity Says:

Apikores and AM HAARETZ!!!! Where do you get off spewing such complete and utter stupidity?? Can you explain your pilpul with mekoros???? Rasha!!!!

What a good example of the open-minded, loving and accepting attitude of many of the posters here. Thank you for your expression of "sanity".

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:29 PM shvigger Says:

Reply to #39  
WolfishMusings Says:

For starters, Pinchas did what he did while they were actually engaged in what they were going. These people were marching in a parade.

The Wolf

Trust me, had these gay paraders been stabbed while actively engaged in Toeivah, the same idiot commentators would still be yelling for his head. These are the same people who would've had an issue with Pinchus ben Eluzer in the midbar.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 03:41 PM yochy Says:

Halacah is Kanaim Poigin Bo Lochain Emor Hinneni Nosein Lo Es Brisi Sholom

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:05 PM Larry Says:

It it unbelievable seeing these pictures of frumma yidden coming to save these evil marchers against Hashem.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:08 PM Larry Says:

Reply to #38  
WolfishMusings Says:

Don't be foolish. Marching in a parade is not a capital offense.

The Wolf

The capital offense isn't the marching. It is these folks activity when they are not marching.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:22 PM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #42  
Halachah & Kabbalah Says:

Sadly, you as well as many commentators here are unaware that being gay is the most sever sins of the Torah and equivalent to killing a person (Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 151). Also the Kav Hayashar and Tur Even Ha'ezer (23:1) equivalates it to murder since they create demons which murder people. While this guy stabbed one person, gays are actually murdering many many more. If Israel would have been a Jewish country (not a country for Jews) with Torah law ruling the land, Bet Din would be commanded to put all these paraders into cherem (Ramban, Rambam, Mishna Brurah). Now placing someone in cherem is worse than stabbing someone.

You're wrong.

Not in the Torah or anywhere else does it say anything about being Gay.

But thanks for playing.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:23 PM SGMoish Says:

While he appears to be a deranged murderer he may also be a Tzadik we'll know after 120. Either way this is what you get for marching in Jerusalem and I am worried about the terrorism coming.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:23 PM abuezri Says:

Reply to #50  
VoiceOfSanity Says:

Apikores and AM HAARETZ!!!! Where do you get off spewing such complete and utter stupidity?? Can you explain your pilpul with mekoros???? Rasha!!!!

"Yeherag" means let yourself be killed, not go out and kill.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:25 PM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #51  
sane Says:

The Palestinians would never allow such a parade. So who do you think G-d would then prefer to give the territory to?

Interesting to see who you use as a moral compass.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:37 PM Anonymous Says:

He is a terrorist attacking Jews, and the police need to tear down his family's house like that of any terrorist. It's the only way to deal with terrorists!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:38 PM The Commish Says:

These homos provoked his actions by having their parade in Yerushalayim. Let them have their event in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia or in Moscow. Russia. They should all be thrown out of Ir Hakodesh.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
shvigger Says:

Kudos to Pinchas ben Eluzer ben Aharon Hacohen

And these crazies will come after you next and you will also be giving giving them kudos? I think not when you are at the emergency room saying tehillim for one of your family so attacked.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 04:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
I don't get it Says:

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to these abominable people who publicly flaunt their sinfulness and encourage others to take pride in rebelling against HKB"H.

Chas VeShalom this incident should dampen anyone's opposition to this parade and any other like it anywhere in the world.

You really don't get it. C'V some normal person would allow their child to marry into the ignorance of your family and have grandchildren capable of such hateful and vile comments.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 05:02 PM Just saying... Says:

This story is on the front page of every main stream media news outlet .. But when an Arab stabs people in Israel no one cares... Just sayin...

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 05:27 PM Anonymous Says:

I don't know what he considered himself, but with a first name of Yishai it is clear he is not the product of Charedi upbringing.
Based on the picture he is a real loony. He should have put in a mental institute instead of prison.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 05:33 PM WolfishMusings Says:

Reply to #59  
yochy Says:

Halacah is Kanaim Poigin Bo Lochain Emor Hinneni Nosein Lo Es Brisi Sholom

Even if that is the halacha now, it is certainly only true if it's in the act. Marching in a parade is not in the act. This was attempted murder, nothing less.

The Wolf

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 05:44 PM Shloime Says:

How is Hareidi's behavior any different from a radical Muslim, who feels it is his duty to murder an infidel?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #72  
Anonymous Says:

I don't know what he considered himself, but with a first name of Yishai it is clear he is not the product of Charedi upbringing.
Based on the picture he is a real loony. He should have put in a mental institute instead of prison.

Where did you did get that from. Yishai may not be a common name. I know a prominent chasidishe menahel in Brooklyn who has a son named Yishai

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:16 PM Anonymous Says:

The cloth of his Torah Dream is a black head for a broken hate. Change in Israel is not going to come by the knife, ax or broken arrow. Jews must daven and give Charity. Only then will Hashem and the Divine Providence put an end to the treif hate events and public displays of adornment for public outrage and hate.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:21 PM WolfishMusings Says:

Reply to #59  
yochy Says:

Halacah is Kanaim Poigin Bo Lochain Emor Hinneni Nosein Lo Es Brisi Sholom

No it's not.

1. I'm not certain that it applies nowadays, but even if it does...
2. It's only for specific crimes -- and mishkav zachar is NOT one of them
3. It has to happen during the act -- these people are merely marching in a parade.

It's attempted murder, plain and simple.

The Wolf

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:27 PM Nycnyc Says:

Many of you are very confused. The sin of male homosexuality is more severe than shabbos violators. Homosexuality applies to jews as well as non Jews. If someone puts a gun to your head and says violate shabbos or get shot, you may violate shabbos. If someone puts a gun to you and says do a homo act , you must give up your life. Parading in the holy city in a gay parade is a rebellion against G-d in the highest form. Is it any wonder that nukes are being built with the intent to destroy eretz yisroel. By allowing gay parades in jerusalem you are fueling the machine of ISIS. They are all pointing to jerusalem and saying if this is how Jews treat the holy city they don't deserve it.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:47 PM Curiosity Says:

Reply to #63  
The_Beadle Says:

You're wrong.

Not in the Torah or anywhere else does it say anything about being Gay.

But thanks for playing.

Umm... Actually, you're the one who is wrong.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 06:54 PM Yosef Chaim Says:

Reply to #52  
elyeh Says:

Chillul Hashem

Right, the parade is a tremendous chillul Hashem as they're openly defying the Torah flaunting their tumah in the holiest city no less. It's a disgrace of the highest order, much worse than the stabbing. On the other hand, the stabbing is an act of zealotry like Pinchas.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 08:29 PM gimmeabreak Says:

Reply to #19  
Anonymous Says:

Stop being so foolish. No from person could condone such an act of violence. Clearly this man is mentally deranged, and I suspect also with the neturei karta, all of whom are deranged as well. Unfortunately this lone incident is going to bring out all the vicious haters of frum people (let's hear it, yonosonw, Bewhiskered, and all you other bigots) who use every conversation to bash the frum.

What are you talking about? If you read this (and other) "toirehdicke" sites you will see posts from many people who claim to be frum, even more frum than you or I of course, who not only condone, but who are elated and overjoyed. Such a sad, sad shonde.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 08:31 PM smb36 Says:

It's very sad. While they shouldn't have the parade in Jerusalem, they shouldn't be attacked either. - Maybe it was meant to be. Still, it's very tragic. May redemption come soon.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 09:02 PM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #6  
Rafuel Says:

Righteous indignation it's called, isn't it?

We all need to tone down the rhetoric on issues such as this march - overheated verbal hatred breeds this kind of thing - Your "righteous indignation" defense of the perpetrator is disgusting.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 09:48 PM PaulinSaudi Says:

#3 Seems to have said it correctly. This is horrible news to wake up to.

Why would a man who would not carry a gun to defend his fellow Jews pick up a knife to kill them?

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 10:29 PM The Commish Says:

The homos have no right to provoke violence in Yerushalayim. Let them have their parade in Moscow, Russia or Riyadh, Saudi Arabia or any other arab country. They come to Yerushalayim because today's Jews are confused with political correctness. The homos don't belong in Ir Hakodesh. Send them away, now.

We have no right to stab, wound or maim anyone and the perpetrator, even though he had noble intentions is a mental case and must be treated as such. On the other hand, the homos are sick, sick individuals who need medical and psychological help. We must stop encouraging this choice of personal perversion.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
HankM Says:

What are we Arabs?

No, WE are not! Why would you even lump US all together with this lone lunatic?! All the anti Semites and sled hating Jews come out of the woodwork whenever they smell a way to malign religious Jews,

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #36  
OscarMadison Says:

The Haredim are their own worst enemy. It's only a matter of time before one of these black hatred degenerates straps a bomb to himself.

The monsters in Beit Shemesh have more in common with Hamas than Moshe Rabbeinu.

Don't even utter the name of Moshe Rabbeinu, you Jew-hating sicko! Now go back to Al Jazeera where you belong,

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #44  
Curiosity Says:

Your painting with an all encompassing brush reveals some serious animosity, underlying bitterness, and outright hatred that you should really speak to someone about.

You're right! This "Oscar Madison" and his pals Bewhsiskeredand yonosonw are one and the same hateful bathers of frum Jews.

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:37 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #46  
Mendlowitz Says:

I agree 100% with #25; if that psycho was an Arab, he would have been toast by now, and would have been shot dead! The Israeli police are going to have to stop handling these Hareidi psychos with kid gloves. Once they allow Hareidis to bully and pit at and assault women on public buses, and on EL, to beat up members of the IDF, to throw stones at cars and pedestrians with impunity, it is only a matter of time, before these violent extremists will kill someone. Israel is a country of laws; while I don't condone the gay lifestyle, the fact of the matter is that the Israeli government, gave the parade organizers the legal right to march. When Yitzchak Rabin was killed, Netanyahu stated that we must fight with ballots, and not bullets. Yet, there are some on this board who condone what that animal did, and have implied that it was the fault of the victims for provoking the extremists. Their ridiculous argument is tantamount for blaming the victim of a rape, for dressing immodestly. The honor for the most disgusting posting, belongs to "Schvigger", #5, who stated "Kudos" and gave that psycho's name. Hey, "Schvigger", I'm glad that you were not my Schvigger.

You're a liar. Arab terrorists are treated with kid gloves, given a great life for a short while in prison,and then quickly released (via hunger strike, or prisoner exchange, or pressure from the goyishe world leaders), and most immediately engage in more terrorism immediately after they're released ! If you deny that you're an out and out liar! arab cholera women were instigating trouble at the Temple Mount this week, and one courageous Israeli woman shouted back 2 words, and SHE was the only one arrested! So you're a complete liar that Arabs will be rated harsher than Jews. Just watch them throw the book at this Jew!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #48  
yossi Says:

your values are a little mixed up.

More like, A LOT mixed up!!!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #49  
PMOinFL Says:

I share your sentiment. But I don't think most of the people here think that ALL frum Jews support what this guy did. But there are some that do, and there are many who find more sympathy for the murderous animal that did this than they do for his victims. I think, what you are really seeing, is other Orthodox Jews (myself included) saying that enough is enough when it comes to these violent, hate-filled fringe elements that have infected our communities like a cancer. They dress like us and speak like us, but they do not in any way shape or form represent us. What they do is desecrate H" and His Torah and make the world more and more dangerous for the rest of us. They are pure evil, and all of us of sound mind know it and we're no longer afraid to stand up to a group of people whose actions and sinas chinam endanger our families' lives.

What re u talking about?! What "group of people?!" You act as if this happens all the time! This is an anomaly!

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #83  
yonasonw Says:

We all need to tone down the rhetoric on issues such as this march - overheated verbal hatred breeds this kind of thing - Your "righteous indignation" defense of the perpetrator is disgusting.

Oh please with YOUR self righteous posts as if you have any intelligence and are mentally equipped to lecture ANYONE! Not one of your posts has any substance or value, let alone anything except Jew bashing comments against your so-called "heimisher racist" brethren. Your displaced arrogance is nauseating. Go get help,

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 Jul 30, 2015 at 11:48 PM Yonosonw is the disgusting one Says:

Reply to #83  
yonasonw Says:

We all need to tone down the rhetoric on issues such as this march - overheated verbal hatred breeds this kind of thing - Your "righteous indignation" defense of the perpetrator is disgusting.

You have it backwards. Address your comment to yourself as you're clearly the one exhibiting what you describe.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 12:27 AM lazerx Says:

PROVOCATION!

The people who paraded in the holy city did this only to provoke the people who find homosexuality offensive. The Jerusalem city hall is also to blame for permitting such an offensive event.

Let them spread their AIDS some where else where people are happy to have it.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 12:29 AM pickythinker Says:

Reply to #80  
Yosef Chaim Says:

Right, the parade is a tremendous chillul Hashem as they're openly defying the Torah flaunting their tumah in the holiest city no less. It's a disgrace of the highest order, much worse than the stabbing. On the other hand, the stabbing is an act of zealotry like Pinchas.

Obviously, as Frum Jews we are opposed to the sort of lifestyle and behavior that this march supports. However, that in no way gives anyone רשות to go about killing people for it. It's also laughable to think that this man is any way is similiar to Pinchas the grandchild of Aharon Hacohen, who did his לשם שמים ,מעש this man is clearly sick plain and simple.

P.S. I'm curious as to where you found a התיר to kill people for chillul hashem, I don't recall that.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 06:15 AM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #39  
WolfishMusings Says:

For starters, Pinchas did what he did while they were actually engaged in what they were going. These people were marching in a parade.

The Wolf

exactly right and at the same time, Hashem was punishing Klal Yisroel and Pinchas' action led to the end of that punishment.

Also, why the rush to condemn Orthodox Jews in general, as some of the posters have, for the actions of one nut job?

No excuses for the stabbing, but the march was designed to provoke without concern for the Holiest city on earth. Where is their condemnation?

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 08:37 AM Anonymous Says:

אל מע"כ ת"ח דעסקין באוריתא, מלכא דעלמא די באתרא הדין ודי בכל אתר ואתר. עי' סנהדרין פ"ב ע"א, אמר רבב"ח א"ר יוחנן... פירש זמרי והרגו פנחס נהרג עליו.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 09:48 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
Facts1 Says:

קנאים פוגעים בו

“ קנאים פוגעים בו ”

But, of course, you and others here conveniently left out the entire quote from the משנה in סנהדרין פ"א ע"ב which prominently states:

הגונב את הקסוה והמקלל בקוסם והבועל ארמית קנאין פוגעין בו

Where does it state that קנאין may stab those marching in an abominable and repulsive gay parade? And, to compare this maniac Schlissel to פינחס is the height of being an עם הארץ.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM WolfishMusings Says:

Reply to #96  
BarryLS1 Says:

exactly right and at the same time, Hashem was punishing Klal Yisroel and Pinchas' action led to the end of that punishment.

Also, why the rush to condemn Orthodox Jews in general, as some of the posters have, for the actions of one nut job?

No excuses for the stabbing, but the march was designed to provoke without concern for the Holiest city on earth. Where is their condemnation?

Please show me where I rushed to condemn Orthodox Jews in general? Every post I've made here has been to point out that the comparisons to Pinchas are silly and completely inappropriate.

The Wolf

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 10:48 AM CommonSense Says:

This guy clearly has issues that need to be explored with a therapist.

This kind of anger usually points to a latent homosexual urge that needs to be projected onto others.

Reading some of the comments I wonder how many others.....

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 10:51 AM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #11  
Yossi Says:

The aveira of Toeiva is equal in severity to the aveira of murder. BOTH are Yehareig v'al Ya'avor.

What is your point?

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 10:53 AM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #18  
Rafuel Says:

Don't overdramatize. The Jewish people didn't end when Pinchas killed Zimri, nor when Masasiahu killed some Jewish shmendrik who was going to make an offering to Zeus. (No judges were involved in either case.) If anything, we became stronger. So I comfortably predict that we will survive the outburst of the man whose intentions were pure but whose efficiency was lacking - all of the 6 rshoim he attempted to remove are still alive.

And the people supporting gay rights are not doing so out of a disdain for hashem.
They truly believe that this is the civil rights issue of the day.

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 04:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #102  
CommonSense Says:

And the people supporting gay rights are not doing so out of a disdain for hashem.
They truly believe that this is the civil rights issue of the day.

Any person who believes that is doing a disdain for hashem

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 Jul 31, 2015 at 05:53 PM Rafuel Says:

Reply to #102  
CommonSense Says:

And the people supporting gay rights are not doing so out of a disdain for hashem.
They truly believe that this is the civil rights issue of the day.

Now, what is your point? What does it have to do with my post to which you are replying.

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 Aug 01, 2015 at 10:12 PM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #104  
Rafuel Says:

Now, what is your point? What does it have to do with my post to which you are replying.

You're ignoring this mans actions and focusing on his intent while at the same time broadly calling everyone at the match r'shoim

Clearly a double standard

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