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London - ‘Dress Down’ or Risk Being Robbed, Police Tell Jewish Women

Published on: December 12, 2008 09:12 AM
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file photoLondon - A wave of violent crime is hitting Jewish areas in London and Manchester and police in London are warning that shoppers need a heightened awareness, may need to “dress down” and should avoid wearing expensive jewellery and accessories.

In the latest attack in north-west London, two women were beaten and robbed by a gang as they returned home from a shopping trip.
Hannah Kleinfeld and a friend were mugged by two men on the driveway of Mrs Kleinfeld’s home after they got out of her Lexus car.
Police are investigating the possibility that the women were targeted while shopping in Hampstead on Sunday afternoon and then followed back to the property in Woodside Park.
Mrs Kleinfeld, an administrator for the Hanoar Hatzioni youth movement, is a friend of gift-shop owner Lorretta Paterson, who was severely beaten in October during a car-jacking in Temple Fortune. Mrs Paterson is now campaigning for CCTV in the area.
A number of Jewish businesses have been targeted by ram-raiders and gangs in the area.
Mother-of-three Mrs Kleinfeld said: “My friend was looking for her car-keys in her bag. I was standing there and I saw these figures. It was a nightmare. One was running towards me. He was wearing all black with a hood up.
“He ran up to me and shoved me over. I hit my face on the way down and he kept screaming: ‘Give me everything, give me your rings, give me your watch or I will shoot you.’
“I did not believe he had a gun but I gave him my diamanté dress watch and he took my Prada bag with my cards and mobile in.”
Her friend, who did not want to be named, said: “The guy grabbed me from behind and threw me on the ground. He kept on trying to get my jewellery and handbag.
“But I put up a fight. I was not going to let them get away with it. I told him if he let me go I would give him the jewellery. He released me and I elbowed him.
“I thought I could escape but he grabbed me again and put his hand over my mouth and he said he’d kill me. So I bit his hand.”
She kept her valuables but suffered bruising, cuts on her hand and swelling in her knees, legs and face. Mrs Kleinfeld, 52, was able to crawl into her car and lock the doors. She began “hooting the horn like crazy” in an attempt to alert her husband and sons and the men ran off.
The women said police told them gangs are now waiting outside shops and restaurants looking for women wearing designer jewellery or carrying fashionable handbags and then following them home. They were advised to dress down and avoid wearing expensive items when shopping.
“Women need to know they have to take care. They should always be on guard and make sure no one is following them. At the moment it seems Jewish women are the target. It’s easy picking them off,” said Mrs Kleinfeld.
Det Insp Duncan Wood, of Barnet Police, said: “We are vigorously investigating this incident and every possible lead is being followed.”

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In north Manchester, three intruders used an axe to slash the back of a man in his 60s when they raided a couple’s home in Prestwich. The attack came an hour after another Jewish family fell victim to a similar burglary.
The armed trio, wielding axes and a baseball bat, smashed through the front door of the house at 8.50pm. The 61-year-old woman inside set off the burglar alarm but the intruders ripped the alarm’s control unit from the wall. The men, dressed in grey hooded tops and balaclavas, went upstairs where the husband was slashed across his back after struggling with them as they ransacked every room in search of valuables.

The police came minutes after his wife escaped to the garden with a mobile phone and dialled 999. When they arrived, she was still outside listening to the cries of her injured husband. The assailants got away with just £72 in cash. It is the second time the couple have been targeted in recent months.
The woman, who did not want to be named, said: “All you see is weapons. I ran to the key pad and set off alarms; he hit the alarm system with the baseball bat and broke the keypad.”

Det Insp John Mazzolai of Bury CID said there was no direct evidence that Jewish houses were being targeted but he is linking the burglaries.
He said: “The incidents are unique in their violence. We are currently following a number of lines of inquiry, including the hunt for a black Audi A3 that the assailants were driving.”
Mark Gardner of the Community Security Trust said: “These are two very worrying crime dynamics and obviously require our community to be aware of suspicious behaviour around their homes and also when out on the streets.
“In North Manchester, there are many Jews living in an area that has suffered from relatively high violent crime rates for some considerable time.
“The situation around Temple Fortune is more recent and information is still coming to light, but it seems clear that women are being targeted on the assumption that they are rich and vulnerable: and there have certainly been Jewish victims, which of course then spreads fear throughout our community.
“The CST has good long-standing relationships with police in both areas.
“We have to stop criminals from regarding our community as an easy target.”



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 Dec 12, 2008 at 09:18 AM Anonymous Says:

this is sad news for our brothers in Great Britain

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 09:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Somehow I am confused by the need to wear a Diamante'
dress watch with a Prada handbag in the middle of the week. Lekovod Shabbos, maybe.

Perha[s there is a lesson for us here?

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 09:46 AM Anonymous Says:

instead of telling to dress down - they should do a better job policing.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 10:07 AM Anonymous Says:

I think we create animosity with our less fortunate or less classy goyish neigbors and should be more careful in how we dress act and educate the next generation. this is golus, know it hate it and hope for the dawn of moshiach tzidkeinu when we will all have the jewels.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 10:28 AM zev Says:

The writing is on the wall. Worldwide depression, robberies increasing, anti semetic acts rampant, blatant robberies, etc, etc. Today on VIN a jew was accused of the worst fraud in history. the picture looks bleak. It would seem not only is Hashem not happy with us, but that HE wants us to leave the "good" life and return home. But right now HE is 'warning" us from all parts of the world. Mumbai was the wake up call. Are we listening???

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 10:27 AM DEEPTHINKER Says:

OUR FATHER YAAKOV'S ADVICE IN THE TORAH STILL APPLIES: "LAMA TISRAU."--DON'T FLAUNT YOUR WEALTH.

However, that doesn't absolve the idiotic British policy of not arming Police with guns. "Where there is no fear of government, men will eat each other alive."--Pirkei Avos.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 10:24 AM secular Danny Says:

why to go unnamed lady who elbowed the burglar. forget joining JDL or JDO, all jews should learn a little boxing, basic street fighting or some form of self-defense [including women]. burglar assume that jews are weak and easy targets but a couple of incidents of jews land basing crooks should solve that!

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:13 AM Milhouse Says:

The UK has this crime problem -- much worse than anything in the USA -- because they don't allow people to arm themselves for self-defense. Anything that could be used as a weapon is illegal, so naturally only criminals have them. If the hoodlums knew that the lady they're thinking of mugging might have a gun in her handbag, and even if she doesn't 50 other bystanders might be armed, they'd think twice about doing anything.

The reason UK police don't carry guns is because when they were introduced people were afraid they'd become an army of tyranny; to allay people's fears, it was decided that the police would be unarmed, and if they needed a weapon to chase a criminal they could borrow one from a bystander! It was assumed that ordinary people would naturally be armed. The UK did not start disarming people until after WW1, when the government was afraid of a communist revolution.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM Anonymous Says:

just put guns on the street once these gangs are shot with a gun they will stop annoying human beings. im assuming they are not terrorists, so they dont wanna be killed.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM lived Says:

On till these stupid European Jews do not learn to fight back they will not have any peace
please remember Poland Jews did not have any luxury should i say clothes to ware and sill they where attacked . its time to fight back you live in a democracy

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM Charlie Hall Says:

Reply to #6  
DEEPTHINKER Says:

OUR FATHER YAAKOV'S ADVICE IN THE TORAH STILL APPLIES: "LAMA TISRAU."--DON'T FLAUNT YOUR WEALTH.

However, that doesn't absolve the idiotic British policy of not arming Police with guns. "Where there is no fear of government, men will eat each other alive."--Pirkei Avos.

Idiotic? Then why does New York City have about three times the number of homicides as London despite having only about 10% more people?

And New York City is the second safest large city in America after Honolulu.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:19 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

instead of telling to dress down - they should do a better job policing.

They can do what they can but the people have to do their job too and cooperate and then hopefully they wont get targeted!

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM Anonymous Says:

Rabboisai we're in Galus! Put away the diamante watches and take out the Tehillim. Chaval al D'avdin- our Bubbies were tznuos in the full sense of the word. Today's women need to look back in time to learn how to dress in the street and not waste their precious time and kochos trying to emulate the latest, trendiest shiksas and socialites.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM Anonymous Says:

If anything good were to come out of this, it's as DEEPTHINKER said before: Jews should start taking Yaakov Avinu's advice with they way they dress, what they drive, and the homes they live in. But who's going to tell people that? Certainly not the Rabbonim! So this message has to come from the goyim.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

instead of telling to dress down - they should do a better job policing.

THERE SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING UNCLEAR TO ME. TZNIUS IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE. DOESN'T WEARING OSTENTATIOUS OR VERY SHOWY ITEMS GO UNDER THAT CATEGORY. BETTER YET PRADA BAG - $1,000+ DOES THAT GO UNDER THE TZNIUS CATEGORY??

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 11:33 AM robroy560 Says:

#8 & #9 are correct. Countries that prohibit or strictly curtail lawful gun ownership have more crime. Add that with a rising Muslim population and a slow economy, you have crimes of opportunity.

This problem will increase all over Europe. It will happen in the US too, except not as much in the right to carry states.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM deepthinker Says:

Says Charlie Hall:"...Idiotic? Then why does New York City have about three times the number of homicides as London despite having only about 10% more people?"

If New York City Police were disarmed, there probably would be 10 times as much crime.

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 02:08 PM murray Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

instead of telling to dress down - they should do a better job policing.

What if that doesn't work?- will they suggest going out in a potato sack, or perhaps naked?

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 02:04 PM murray Says:

Reply to #8  
Milhouse Says:

The UK has this crime problem -- much worse than anything in the USA -- because they don't allow people to arm themselves for self-defense. Anything that could be used as a weapon is illegal, so naturally only criminals have them. If the hoodlums knew that the lady they're thinking of mugging might have a gun in her handbag, and even if she doesn't 50 other bystanders might be armed, they'd think twice about doing anything.

The reason UK police don't carry guns is because when they were introduced people were afraid they'd become an army of tyranny; to allay people's fears, it was decided that the police would be unarmed, and if they needed a weapon to chase a criminal they could borrow one from a bystander! It was assumed that ordinary people would naturally be armed. The UK did not start disarming people until after WW1, when the government was afraid of a communist revolution.

It is sick to not let law abiding citizens protect themselves. I guess they don't have anything equivalent to a "2nd Amendment"? There is nothing in English common law that allows for an armed citizenry?

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 01:57 PM Anonymous Says:

This is a message from Hashem. You go out in public and you have the nerve to wear flashy clothing and expensive jewlry, you better believe that you will be a target The same goes to sleazy and trashy looking women that attract attention, they are targtes. So just tone down and be a little modest then maybe next time you wont attract so much attention

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 02:29 PM Concerned mother in Boro Park Says:

This further goes to underscore that I am right when I do not let my daughter a kallah come and go to a Chasuna at 11:00 pm by herself.
Please mothers, make sure you girls are not out at night coming and going to weddings dress to the hilt with all their jewelry!
I make my husband pick her up! Yes my daughter resents it and her friends laugh at her, but I calm knowing she won't be in the street alone!

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 03:07 PM Gefilte Fish Says:

"EVERY JEW A .22"

In these times, its very important that everyone, especially jews carry weapons, These people know whom to target, and are not interested in getting hurt!

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 Dec 12, 2008 at 02:58 PM mnuez Says:

The level of sheer ignorance that these people have about how their wealth makes other people feel is astonishing. It's bad enough that it makes more anti-semites and that they risk getting their head smashed in, but their misoirer kinnah in people who weren't able to marry as reich as they did and they make it such that we yidden live by the dollar rather than by our higher values. Whatever happened to not getting caught in the web of gashmius? Whatever happened to not trying to keep up with the Cohens? i'm sure you all know qt least 8 of the aseres hidibros, but I'm pretty sure you don;t know the tenth. Loi Sachmoid/Loi Sisaveh (with a Tav, that's taivah).

With modern technology we have the ability to live with food and drink better than lechem v'mayim on very little, yet we somehow believe that we need to be rich in order "to be somebody" - and these women are part of the problem.

But nebech, they mamesh don't know. They have no hasuguh whatsoever.

mnuez


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 Dec 12, 2008 at 03:21 PM murray Says:

Reply to #22  
Gefilte Fish Says:

"EVERY JEW A .22"

In these times, its very important that everyone, especially jews carry weapons, These people know whom to target, and are not interested in getting hurt!

Is their any mechanism in place that allows for some sort of application, or permit process for a law abiding resident of NYC to obtain a lethal weapon. (legally). I have no problem getting and carrying what I need (legally) but I don't live in New York. I understand that the mayor there is very anti-gun, but this should be challenged since the US Supreme Court said it is unconstitutional to outright ban weapons for self defense. "Jew" may rhyme with .22, but if you are given permission to carry, please do yourself a favor and get a .40, or .45.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 05:50 PM Londoner Says:

How people here are ignorant... The policing in London is non existing, there's no such thing as police should drive around in cars to see who breaks the law or the like, even as far as traffic offences is concerned. The only time when police is there is when you call the in emergency, and of course they show up at least 20 minutes late... Basically the police force here is an emergency response organisation and not a law enforcement, so that's how rather to battle crime they say don't walk on the street so you won't be mugged, disgusting...

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 04:17 PM Anonymous Says:

nothing changes...
during the 'golden era of spain' (maeaning, of course for the Jewish nation) the Gedolim of that time gave a ruling that Jewish women NOT wear their jewlery, especially on Shabbos and Tom Tovim... why? because queen isabela, may she continue to rot in gehennim was angry. because the Jewish women's jewlery outshone hers... and some say that pushed her to the inquisition....
a few years back I read an article in one ofNY jewsih weekly, how one of the mail-men in brough park, wanted to know if chandliers were part of the Jewish Religion?? that article was from the early l970... just a sampling...

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 03:09 PM Big Masmid Says:

The message Hashem is sending us is Cristal clear:
PLEASE lets work on it Yiden, lets try letting go of our Gashmias life style, lets start giving up some of our every day UN needed comforts in order to change our life style. Our focus should be on getting closer to Hashem.
I am not saying that we are not trying, but what ever we have been doing in obviously not enough.

This problem is not only in London its all over wherever there are Frum Yiden we find that they dress to kill.

Hopefully we'll take a lesson from this bitter story, and Hashem will have mercy on us, where ever we are in the world. Hashem Ad Mosi

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 06:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #27  
Big Masmid Says:

The message Hashem is sending us is Cristal clear:
PLEASE lets work on it Yiden, lets try letting go of our Gashmias life style, lets start giving up some of our every day UN needed comforts in order to change our life style. Our focus should be on getting closer to Hashem.
I am not saying that we are not trying, but what ever we have been doing in obviously not enough.

This problem is not only in London its all over wherever there are Frum Yiden we find that they dress to kill.

Hopefully we'll take a lesson from this bitter story, and Hashem will have mercy on us, where ever we are in the world. Hashem Ad Mosi

we dress to kill is right big masmid

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 07:24 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #11  
Charlie Hall Says:

Idiotic? Then why does New York City have about three times the number of homicides as London despite having only about 10% more people?

And New York City is the second safest large city in America after Honolulu.

And why is London ahead of New York in every crime except homicide?

The UK has had a lower murder rate than the USA for centuries, but the gap is swiftly narrowing. Meanwhile, the UK is a far more dangerous place than anywhere in the USA. The only answer to crime is to let people defend themselves. That means not arresting people for defending themselves. In the UK if you do manage to injure or kill your assailant, you are the one who is arrested, and the criminal sues you for damages. The right to self defense has almost been erased from the law. And that is the root of the problem.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 07:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
zev Says:

The writing is on the wall. Worldwide depression, robberies increasing, anti semetic acts rampant, blatant robberies, etc, etc. Today on VIN a jew was accused of the worst fraud in history. the picture looks bleak. It would seem not only is Hashem not happy with us, but that HE wants us to leave the "good" life and return home. But right now HE is 'warning" us from all parts of the world. Mumbai was the wake up call. Are we listening???

I agree there does seem to be a lot of issues together right now that make the future seem uncertain.Politically in the USA ,UK and Israel and also economically the world is uncertain.As jews internationally we must be aware of this and if we get to many danger signs we should head to Israel,the only safe place for jews.This is not scaremongering just be aware

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 07:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Is there a Shomrim organization? back years ago it wasn't to much better in NYC, especially in williamsburg it was out of control, once Shomrim was created it got back in control

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 07:33 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #11  
Charlie Hall Says:

Idiotic? Then why does New York City have about three times the number of homicides as London despite having only about 10% more people?

And New York City is the second safest large city in America after Honolulu.

#24 wrote "Is their any mechanism in place that allows for some sort of application, or permit process for a law abiding resident of NYC to obtain a lethal weapon. (legally)."

The basic answer is, "no". Gun permits are at the sole discretion of the police department, and you have to be connected to get one. Even NY State permits are not recognised in NY City. A few thousand machers and celebrities have permits, and everyone else is defenseless. And if you don't live in the city, then forget about it, it isn't even theoretically possible to get a permit to carry in the city. That idiot football player Plaxico whatshisname who shot himself is being charged with carrying a weapon without a permit, which it would have been impossible for him to get, because he lives in New Jersey.

It's completely unconstitutional, but nobody seems to care.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 07:43 PM murray Says:

Reply to #5  
zev Says:

The writing is on the wall. Worldwide depression, robberies increasing, anti semetic acts rampant, blatant robberies, etc, etc. Today on VIN a jew was accused of the worst fraud in history. the picture looks bleak. It would seem not only is Hashem not happy with us, but that HE wants us to leave the "good" life and return home. But right now HE is 'warning" us from all parts of the world. Mumbai was the wake up call. Are we listening???

Mumbei was Not the wake-up call. Nine Eleven was the wake up call, and "No" we have Not listened (snoozed our way into Mumbei)

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 08:06 PM Anonymous Says:

No one paid attention whae the chofetz chaim wrote this in mishnah berurah. maybe know they will start.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 08:11 PM typical wussy british cops Says:

we dont have the power to protect you so you need to protect yourself.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 08:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
typical wussy british cops Says:

we dont have the power to protect you so you need to protect yourself.

Typical stupidity of a money-obssessed boro-parker.

The Kli Yakar warns about this same thing.

Take your eyes off your money long enough to learn a little.

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 10:44 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #8  
Milhouse Says:

The UK has this crime problem -- much worse than anything in the USA -- because they don't allow people to arm themselves for self-defense. Anything that could be used as a weapon is illegal, so naturally only criminals have them. If the hoodlums knew that the lady they're thinking of mugging might have a gun in her handbag, and even if she doesn't 50 other bystanders might be armed, they'd think twice about doing anything.

The reason UK police don't carry guns is because when they were introduced people were afraid they'd become an army of tyranny; to allay people's fears, it was decided that the police would be unarmed, and if they needed a weapon to chase a criminal they could borrow one from a bystander! It was assumed that ordinary people would naturally be armed. The UK did not start disarming people until after WW1, when the government was afraid of a communist revolution.

It's not those [silly] irrational fears, but the British way of thinking, not to arm the "Bobbies", on the assumption that the criminals, knowing that the Police officers are unarmed, will not use weapons against them. Sort-of gentleman-criminals!!!

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #7  
secular Danny Says:

why to go unnamed lady who elbowed the burglar. forget joining JDL or JDO, all jews should learn a little boxing, basic street fighting or some form of self-defense [including women]. burglar assume that jews are weak and easy targets but a couple of incidents of jews land basing crooks should solve that!

In spite of your mumbo-jumbo and some misspellings, your message --sort of-- came across. Namely, that Jews should acquire street-fighting skills. (are "land-basing and "lambasting" related?)!!!

p.s.: If you are "Secular" Danny, why don't you have proper English writing skills?
Nothing personal. But the Chassidic Community [in general] is being accused (among other things...) of not possessing good language skills (both, written and verbal)!!
p.p.s: It appears that English is not your First language!!!

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #19  
murray Says:

It is sick to not let law abiding citizens protect themselves. I guess they don't have anything equivalent to a "2nd Amendment"? There is nothing in English common law that allows for an armed citizenry?

But ideally, we should have an effective and responsive Police force, and there wouldn't be any need for armed Citizenry!!!

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 10:49 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #10  
lived Says:

On till these stupid European Jews do not learn to fight back they will not have any peace
please remember Poland Jews did not have any luxury should i say clothes to ware and sill they where attacked . its time to fight back you live in a democracy

...When Yidden start fighting back, they'll find out the limits of Democracy!!!

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 11:00 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #25  
Londoner Says:

How people here are ignorant... The policing in London is non existing, there's no such thing as police should drive around in cars to see who breaks the law or the like, even as far as traffic offences is concerned. The only time when police is there is when you call the in emergency, and of course they show up at least 20 minutes late... Basically the police force here is an emergency response organisation and not a law enforcement, so that's how rather to battle crime they say don't walk on the street so you won't be mugged, disgusting...

Oh Yeah? People don't get tickets for driving offenses (offences) in the UK?!

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 Dec 13, 2008 at 11:18 PM Anonymous Says:

MAYBE THE POLICE WERE RIGHT???

Did you ever think of that?

Maybe we should start reading the parts of halachah that don't fit into our fur and diamond lifestyle?

We run to follow every chumrah ever thought of but when the mishnah berura writes that we should not show off because it causes more sinas yisroel we feel free to ignore it.

When was the last time the rov of your shul said in a shabbos derasha that we need to tone it down a little? Right after he told you to report wife beaters and child molestors? Or not even that often, which is never?

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 Dec 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #37  
bigwheeel Says:

It's not those [silly] irrational fears, but the British way of thinking, not to arm the "Bobbies", on the assumption that the criminals, knowing that the Police officers are unarmed, will not use weapons against them. Sort-of gentleman-criminals!!!

Sorry, bigwheel, go read some history; you will find that the reason police were unarmed was exactly as I have said, in order to quell fears that they would become a force that could impose the government's will on the people. The British people at the time would not have stood for such a force, and since everyone went armed they would have been able to stop it. In order to get people to accept the police as a benign force, the government agreed that policemen alone, of all the people on the street, would not be armed, so normal law-abiding people would not have to be afraid of them. If they needed a gun, they could -- and did -- borrow one from a by-stander.

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 Dec 14, 2008 at 06:10 PM Yisrael Chaim Ben Dov Ber Halevi Says:

I wish the Nassua County/ NYPD would tell the women of the Five towns and Flatbush the Same thing

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