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United Nations - Palestinian Leader Tries To Put Trump On Notice With Warning

Published on: September 24, 2017 08:02 PM
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FILE - In this Wednesday, Sept. 20, 2017 file photo, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas speaks during the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters. (Overshadowed by last week's showdown at the U.N. between the U.S. and North Korea, Abbas issued an ominous warning in his address to the world body. With hopes running out for an independent Palestinian state, the Palestinian leader said he may have no choice but to seek a single, binational state with Israel. AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)FILE - In this Wednesday, Sept. 20, 2017 file photo, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas speaks during the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters. (Overshadowed by last week's showdown at the U.N. between the U.S. and North Korea, Abbas issued an ominous warning in his address to the world body. With hopes running out for an independent Palestinian state, the Palestinian leader said he may have no choice but to seek a single, binational state with Israel. AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)

United Nations - Overshadowed by last week’s showdown between the U.S. and North Korea, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas issued an ominous warning in his address to the United Nations: With hopes running out for an independent Palestinian state, the Palestinian leader said he may have no choice but to seek a single, binational state with Israel.

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While Abbas appears to be in no hurry to disband his self-rule government, his threat raises an awkward scenario for Israel and the Trump administration that could potentially spell doom for the century-old Zionist enterprise.

Abbas was a mastermind and negotiator of the historic Oslo peace accords of the 1990s — interim deals that set a five-year goal for reaching a final agreement. Since then, he has remained a vocal supporter of pursuing a negotiated peace agreement that would establish an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel.

But after nearly a quarter century of failed U.S.-led peace efforts, the 82-year-old Abbas told the world body last Wednesday that time is running out as Israel expands its settlements on occupied lands.

“The two-state solution is today in jeopardy,” he said, saying that the Palestinians will have to “look for alternatives” if the door is closed to independence.

“If the two-state solution were to be destroyed due to the creation of a one-state reality with two systems — apartheid,” he said, “this would be a failure, and neither you, nor we, will have any other choice but to continue the struggle and demand full, equal rights for all inhabitants of historic Palestine.”

Abbas has issued similar threats before. But the timing and high-profile venue of his speech gave his comments some added urgency. The Palestinians are eagerly waiting for President Donald Trump to present his vision for peace, and are desperately seeking his endorsement of a two-state solution.

“President Abbas sent a direct message to the U.S. administration, saying: Either you save the two-state solution or we are going to end up in one state where our people are going to ask for full rights,” said Mohammed Ishtayeh, a top adviser to Abbas.

A White House official said the administration understands the difficulties involved, but remains optimistic and is having “productive conversations with both sides.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was discussing behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

The Palestinians seek the West Bank, east Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip — territories Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war — for their future state. The international community, including Trump’s predecessors, has long supported the two-state solution, believing that partitioning the land into Israeli and Palestinian states is the best way to ensure peace.

The reasoning is rooted in demographics. Most demographers believe the number of Jews and Arabs in these areas is close to equal. Relinquishing control of territories with several million Palestinians would ensure Israel’s future as a democracy with a solid Jewish majority. Continued control over the Palestinians, on the other hand, could force Israel to choose between its Jewish character and remaining a democracy.

With this in mind, Israel withdrew from Gaza, now home to 2 million Palestinians, in 2005. Yet it also has strengthened its grip on the West Bank and east Jerusalem, together home to over 600,000 Israelis and an estimated 2.7 million Palestinians, making any future separation increasingly difficult. Israel has some 1.8 million Arab citizens and 6.5 million Jews, according to its Central Bureau of Statistics.

Israel has annexed east Jerusalem and considers the area, home to sensitive religious sites, an inseparable part of its capital. Although the annexation is not internationally recognized, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed never to divide the city.

The fate of the West Bank is even more complicated. Israel has established scores of settlements without declaring it to be part of Israel. The result is a complicated reality where Israeli settlers enjoy the protection of the Israeli military and the rights of Israeli citizenship, while Palestinians are subject to a combination of autonomy under Abbas’ Palestinian Authority and Israeli military law. Critics, including Abbas, frequently compare this two-tiered system to South African apartheid.

Israeli hard-liners have offered a host of reasons to oppose Palestinian independence. They claim Israel’s pre-1967 boundaries would be indefensible, point to past peace proposals rejected by the Palestinians and note the bloody second Palestinian uprising of the early 2000s and Hamas takeover of Gaza in 2007. They cite the Jewish biblical connection to the West Bank, say that expanded Palestinian autonomy should be sufficient or claim that Abbas is weak or cannot be trusted.

But they have struggled to provide an answer if the Palestinians give up their aspirations for independence and instead seek equality and Israeli voting rights. Coping with this dilemma, Netanyahu offered conditional support for Palestinian independence upon taking office in 2009. But since Trump’s election, Netanyahu has stopped talking about a two-state solution.

Netanyahu’s office did not respond to requests for comment on Abbas’ speech. His U.N. Ambassador, Danny Danon, last week said Abbas had “spread falsehoods.”

“Today’s lies and excuses have proven once again that the Palestinian leadership is a serial evader of peace,” he said.

It seems unlikely that Abbas will follow through on his warning. The Palestinian president controls a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars, tens of thousands of jobs and travels the world with VIP status. His aides admit there are no immediate plans to disband the internationally backed Palestinian Authority.

Palestinian officials say his speech was meant to rouse an international community that has stopped paying attention to them and to remind the world that the alternatives to inaction are worse.

“We told the Americans it’s the last chance for the two-state solution,” Ishtayeh said.

 

 



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 Sep 24, 2017 at 08:31 PM Cancer &ALS; Upon Palestinains Says:

AP garbage fake news.

They make it as if there are two sides. There are no two sides. The Palestinians only seek our blood and have no interest in a two state solution. The real truth is that maybe , maybe they would take one state with it all theirs. Even then they'd still kill us. The Palestinians are animals and beasts. They are not normal human beings. Abbas is the same man that pays money to terrorist families and supports the brutal murder of our brothers during a friday night seuda. And he is the moderate among them.

Yes we can balme the zionsts for letting the wild beasts out of the cage and enraging them. But how will that help moving froward. Now that they are out, a two state solution where they have more power and are even closer to our cities is even more dangerous. Don't think for a second that they will be happy and won't bother us under pre 67 boundaries. That ain't happening. You are dealing with beasts as opposed to sain individuals.

So what is my solution? There is no solution. There is no answer till moshiach comes. Till then we have to just box these animals in their cage. Yes there is no permanent answer.

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 Sep 24, 2017 at 08:39 PM bsnow Says:

Tell his low life to get lost.

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 Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 PM Cancer & ALS Upon Palestinans Says:

During the 6 day war the news outlets all reported Israel can't survive surrounded by so many rouge arab nations on all 4 sides seeking to devour it. And yet BH we survived all odds. The same is true nowadays, yes they can show demographics and provide torah's how the arab population will outnumber jews and its unsustainable. Yet we know the truth, Israel will survive. Sorry AP you were wrong 50 years ago and you are wrong again today.

As DOV Shurin so eloquntley sings

ואנקמה נקם אחת בשתי עיני בפלסטין!!!

Educated Archy

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 02:27 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Cancer & ALS Upon Palestinans Says:

During the 6 day war the news outlets all reported Israel can't survive surrounded by so many rouge arab nations on all 4 sides seeking to devour it. And yet BH we survived all odds. The same is true nowadays, yes they can show demographics and provide torah's how the arab population will outnumber jews and its unsustainable. Yet we know the truth, Israel will survive. Sorry AP you were wrong 50 years ago and you are wrong again today.

As DOV Shurin so eloquntley sings

ואנקמה נקם אחת בשתי עיני בפלסטין!!!

Educated Archy

Everyone knew that the Arabs will never make it against the Israeli army. It was all a hoax played by the Israelis so we shld believe in the so called nissim that never ocurred. Was all a balony and Educated Archy can go educate himself on this matter too. Also dont forget to evr omit your despicable heading that should never come anyones way. A yid shld watch his tongue and especially in a public forum that undoubtedly causes a tremendous chilul H. But its all for naught. You probbly think its a mitzvah to curse. Do as you please and go about your long boring rants that is of no interest to anyone. shana tova.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 05:25 AM Anonymous Says:

Warning? Impotent Abbas is warning the US? That's laughable.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 08:11 AM Cancer upon Palestinians/Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Everyone knew that the Arabs will never make it against the Israeli army. It was all a hoax played by the Israelis so we shld believe in the so called nissim that never ocurred. Was all a balony and Educated Archy can go educate himself on this matter too. Also dont forget to evr omit your despicable heading that should never come anyones way. A yid shld watch his tongue and especially in a public forum that undoubtedly causes a tremendous chilul H. But its all for naught. You probbly think its a mitzvah to curse. Do as you please and go about your long boring rants that is of no interest to anyone. shana tova.

That is such a lie . Israel was surrounded by strong forces on all sides in 67. Every newspaper said so . Even the satmar Reba had to resort to "masa Satan " as to why we defied all odds . You have some revisionist history . And all just to fit to your fake agenda . So sad .

There is no chillul Hashem in writing the truth . Plus only Jews read vin . So stop with the narishkiten yamsar.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 09:15 AM Phineas Says:

He could never sell a one state solution to his people. They would lynch him if he came back and said they should share a state with the Israelis

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 10:18 AM yamsar Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Everyone knew that the Arabs will never make it against the Israeli army. It was all a hoax played by the Israelis so we shld believe in the so called nissim that never ocurred. Was all a balony and Educated Archy can go educate himself on this matter too. Also dont forget to evr omit your despicable heading that should never come anyones way. A yid shld watch his tongue and especially in a public forum that undoubtedly causes a tremendous chilul H. But its all for naught. You probbly think its a mitzvah to curse. Do as you please and go about your long boring rants that is of no interest to anyone. shana tova.

It isn't only a chilul Hashem, screen names like his can cost Jewish blood. This Rodef Archy is mafkir his blood With his provocative screen name.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 10:18 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #1  
Cancer &ALS; Upon Palestinains Says:

AP garbage fake news.

They make it as if there are two sides. There are no two sides. The Palestinians only seek our blood and have no interest in a two state solution. The real truth is that maybe , maybe they would take one state with it all theirs. Even then they'd still kill us. The Palestinians are animals and beasts. They are not normal human beings. Abbas is the same man that pays money to terrorist families and supports the brutal murder of our brothers during a friday night seuda. And he is the moderate among them.

Yes we can balme the zionsts for letting the wild beasts out of the cage and enraging them. But how will that help moving froward. Now that they are out, a two state solution where they have more power and are even closer to our cities is even more dangerous. Don't think for a second that they will be happy and won't bother us under pre 67 boundaries. That ain't happening. You are dealing with beasts as opposed to sain individuals.

So what is my solution? There is no solution. There is no answer till moshiach comes. Till then we have to just box these animals in their cage. Yes there is no permanent answer.

We ignore real politik at our own peril...we lost both the bais rishon and the bais sheini to what Archie labels "...animals..." and we could lose what we have today too.

A "one-state" solution was forced on South Africa 25 years ago, and it could happen to Israel too. If Archie or anyone else here thinks he (or she) has special knowledge of Hashem's plans to the contrary, please reveal your motzav c'navi to all of us.

In the meanwhile, the best hishtadlus Israel can do is to work for a two-state solution with secure borders.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 04:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Cancer upon Palestinians/Educated Archy Says:

That is such a lie . Israel was surrounded by strong forces on all sides in 67. Every newspaper said so . Even the satmar Reba had to resort to "masa Satan " as to why we defied all odds . You have some revisionist history . And all just to fit to your fake agenda . So sad .

There is no chillul Hashem in writing the truth . Plus only Jews read vin . So stop with the narishkiten yamsar.

Im not Yasmar. Im an ultra orthodox jew that knows the truth that u dont wanna read about. Leave the holy Rebbe alone. Ur dont deserve to call him by anything. And Ur wrong! Non Jews read VIN bigtime and ur causing a trmendous chilil H by demonstrating such hate. A jew shld know better. Even an UNeducated archy shld. And go read history. Ur an ignormaus too.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 04:56 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #9  
yonasonw Says:

We ignore real politik at our own peril...we lost both the bais rishon and the bais sheini to what Archie labels "...animals..." and we could lose what we have today too.

A "one-state" solution was forced on South Africa 25 years ago, and it could happen to Israel too. If Archie or anyone else here thinks he (or she) has special knowledge of Hashem's plans to the contrary, please reveal your motzav c'navi to all of us.

In the meanwhile, the best hishtadlus Israel can do is to work for a two-state solution with secure borders.

Nope a two state solution would put klal yisreol in great danger.

Your first mistake is that you think we are dealing with rational people with whom we can negotiate peace with. Muslims are irrational.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 05:02 PM Cancer & ALS Upon Islam/Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Im not Yasmar. Im an ultra orthodox jew that knows the truth that u dont wanna read about. Leave the holy Rebbe alone. Ur dont deserve to call him by anything. And Ur wrong! Non Jews read VIN bigtime and ur causing a trmendous chilil H by demonstrating such hate. A jew shld know better. Even an UNeducated archy shld. And go read history. Ur an ignormaus too.

yes I know all about the holy rebee ZT"L and his sefer al hegula val hatemurah written after the 6 day war.

Ok so tons of non jews read this website and my comments? And they see the truth. So now what? Trust me there are plenty of worse sites that they can pick on such as Dov's songs before some blogger on VIN. For those that do read it its a Kiddush hashem that we care about our murdered brothers. Its a kiddush hashem that we hate anyone that starts up with klall yisroel. Its a kiddush hashem that we speak the truth. And lastly its a kiddush hashem that they know that us yidden despite our hate never encourage violence against anyone. Its just not in our blood. But we encourage emuna and davening to hashem to take care of our enemies. Thats what makes judiasm so special.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 06:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
yonasonw Says:

We ignore real politik at our own peril...we lost both the bais rishon and the bais sheini to what Archie labels "...animals..." and we could lose what we have today too.

A "one-state" solution was forced on South Africa 25 years ago, and it could happen to Israel too. If Archie or anyone else here thinks he (or she) has special knowledge of Hashem's plans to the contrary, please reveal your motzav c'navi to all of us.

In the meanwhile, the best hishtadlus Israel can do is to work for a two-state solution with secure borders.

Wow, not only a liberal but also a believer that there can be a "two state solution," despite seeing how peaceful the palis are! And from the one who keeps reminding us of how intelligent he is!!!lol

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 10:09 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #12  
Cancer & ALS Upon Islam/Educated Archy Says:

yes I know all about the holy rebee ZT"L and his sefer al hegula val hatemurah written after the 6 day war.

Ok so tons of non jews read this website and my comments? And they see the truth. So now what? Trust me there are plenty of worse sites that they can pick on such as Dov's songs before some blogger on VIN. For those that do read it its a Kiddush hashem that we care about our murdered brothers. Its a kiddush hashem that we hate anyone that starts up with klall yisroel. Its a kiddush hashem that we speak the truth. And lastly its a kiddush hashem that they know that us yidden despite our hate never encourage violence against anyone. Its just not in our blood. But we encourage emuna and davening to hashem to take care of our enemies. Thats what makes judiasm so special.

Indeed. When the anti semites will compile data on hatred in Jewish communities they will use shurins songs and articles as well. You are a rodef.

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 Sep 25, 2017 at 11:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Cancer & ALS Upon Islam/Educated Archy Says:

yes I know all about the holy rebee ZT"L and his sefer al hegula val hatemurah written after the 6 day war.

Ok so tons of non jews read this website and my comments? And they see the truth. So now what? Trust me there are plenty of worse sites that they can pick on such as Dov's songs before some blogger on VIN. For those that do read it its a Kiddush hashem that we care about our murdered brothers. Its a kiddush hashem that we hate anyone that starts up with klall yisroel. Its a kiddush hashem that we speak the truth. And lastly its a kiddush hashem that they know that us yidden despite our hate never encourage violence against anyone. Its just not in our blood. But we encourage emuna and davening to hashem to take care of our enemies. Thats what makes judiasm so special.

A yid that davens and has emunah doesnt use this language. U wont have anyone sane saying otherwise & wel keep it to that. No use of arguing history when its black and white. Wont go there again but as a fellow jew I plead w you again to remove the cursed heading as it is extrmly provocative and is goirem a big chilul H.

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 Sep 26, 2017 at 01:35 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Cancer &ALS; Upon Palestinains Says:

AP garbage fake news.

They make it as if there are two sides. There are no two sides. The Palestinians only seek our blood and have no interest in a two state solution. The real truth is that maybe , maybe they would take one state with it all theirs. Even then they'd still kill us. The Palestinians are animals and beasts. They are not normal human beings. Abbas is the same man that pays money to terrorist families and supports the brutal murder of our brothers during a friday night seuda. And he is the moderate among them.

Yes we can balme the zionsts for letting the wild beasts out of the cage and enraging them. But how will that help moving froward. Now that they are out, a two state solution where they have more power and are even closer to our cities is even more dangerous. Don't think for a second that they will be happy and won't bother us under pre 67 boundaries. That ain't happening. You are dealing with beasts as opposed to sain individuals.

So what is my solution? There is no solution. There is no answer till moshiach comes. Till then we have to just box these animals in their cage. Yes there is no permanent answer.

U believe in mashiach? Thats nice! I thought the Zionists freed your land and your happy and merry. What do you need mashiach for anyway? WE have a land We hava army WE WE WE. The sad reality is that We have nothing till Mashiachs arrival. We have no land no army cause we are not nationalists. We are galus yiddn waitng for the day that we will be redeemed. What we do have is heresy in the land that was once holy and we mourn every day that the heretic Zionists are calling it the LAND of the Jews. It is not ours. It will be when Mashiach comes. This means waiting for Mashiach.

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 Sep 26, 2017 at 01:37 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
yamsar Says:

Indeed. When the anti semites will compile data on hatred in Jewish communities they will use shurins songs and articles as well. You are a rodef.

you are 100% right. dunno why VIN allows such rhetoric. Its a shande.

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