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Postville, IA - Judge Denies Rubashkin's Anti-Semitism Claim

Published on: March 6, 2009 02:40 PM
By: The Des Moines Register
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Shortly after posting bail in Iowa Jan. 28, 2009, Sholom Rubashkin, right, stands with one of his lawyersPostville, IA - A federal judge has brushed aside contentions that a former Postville meatpacking executive’s indictment was tainted by anti-Semitism.

Lawyers for Sholom Rubashkin had asked for a dismissal of numerous charges, including allegations that he defrauded a bank and helped illegal immigrants obtain false papers.

The defense lawyers claimed in court last month that witnesses before a federal grand jury made negative references to the fact that Rubashkin and other former Agriprocessors managers are Orthodox Jews.

The lawyers presented an expert on jury issues, who said those stereotypes could have helped lead to the indictment of Rubashkin and the other men.

But Chief District Judge Linda Reade ruled today there was no basis to the defense’s claim.
“It is the court’s firm conviction that there was no impropriety in these grand jury proceedings,” she wrote. “Simply put, Defendants have mischaracterized and taken out of context what are in truth innocuous statements and questions.”

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The judge did not rule on defense requests that the men’s cases be separated and that the trials be moved out of state to avoid bias caused by extensive media coverage.

Agriprocessors has been the focus of intense controversy in Iowa and nationally since last May, when federal agents raided it and arrested nearly 400 workers on immigration charges. The plant is now in bankruptcy and is up for sale.

Defense lawyer Guy Cook said today he was unsure if Rubashkin would appeal Reade’s ruling on the grand-jury bias contention.
Prosecutors declined comment.

The trial is set for September, but it could be delayed.



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 Mar 06, 2009 at 03:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Now that the antisemite card was thrown out of the deck, what is the next step for that brilliant defense team?
Sholom had better plead guilty, pay his fine and go on with his life. Isn't that the way of a sucessful businessman? That is what Milhouse wants us to believe.

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 Mar 06, 2009 at 04:26 PM SamInBocaRaton,Florida Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

Now that the antisemite card was thrown out of the deck, what is the next step for that brilliant defense team?
Sholom had better plead guilty, pay his fine and go on with his life. Isn't that the way of a sucessful businessman? That is what Milhouse wants us to believe.

Who is this Milhouse ? Is he a Maven ? Why plead Guilty! If Shlomo Rubashkin is innocent.

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 Mar 06, 2009 at 04:13 PM MIESQ Says:

The fact that it was so easily dismissed and with that language would scream out on appeal. Because where is there a bright line that objectively demarks discriminatory attitude?
Esepcially when it involves certain triggers that a particular group is sensitive to.

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 Mar 06, 2009 at 04:05 PM Anonymous Says:

pay the fine..be as man enough with the antisemitisim crap..

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 Mar 06, 2009 at 03:42 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

Now that the antisemite card was thrown out of the deck, what is the next step for that brilliant defense team?
Sholom had better plead guilty, pay his fine and go on with his life. Isn't that the way of a sucessful businessman? That is what Milhouse wants us to believe.

I don't thing this will be only a fine. Unfortunately, I believe he will have to do some hard time. Chavall on his kinderlach.

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 Mar 06, 2009 at 04:37 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

Now that the antisemite card was thrown out of the deck, what is the next step for that brilliant defense team?
Sholom had better plead guilty, pay his fine and go on with his life. Isn't that the way of a sucessful businessman? That is what Milhouse wants us to believe.

No, he should appeal it. The fact that Madoff is out while Rubashkin sat in jail, is proof of a corrupt biased system.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 06:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Anonymous Says:

No, he should appeal it. The fact that Madoff is out while Rubashkin sat in jail, is proof of a corrupt biased system.

difference is that madoff didnt force anyone to give him money. people in droves came to him . Pluse madoff admitted wromg doing . Rubashkin on the other hand never showed one iota of remorse and keeps on using anti semotism as away to defend himself . Personally he is digging his own grave the way he is tackling his situation .

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 07:31 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #7, what are you saying that Rubashkin forced people to eat kosher and buy his products? Or he forced the workers to work for him? Or he forced the town to rebuild their economy? Madoff is an out and out ganuv, till the day he was caught he still took people's money eventhough he had nothing to sell them but luft!

Rubashskin supplied a product and did it in a way that "WE" could afford it. How much are you paying for meat now????????? See the difference????? It was a small town, it didn't supply enough workers and workers came, whether he went looking for them or not, he didn't force anyone to work for him. They went to him and they were found at Tyson and at Swift and all the other meat packers as well. Interestingly enough, other than these immigrants no one else wants to work in the meat packing industry unless they are well padded through union benefits. Do you belong to a Union? Does your employer allow a union in his business? Can you relate at all to what I am saying?

What exactly do you want Shalom Mordechai to be remorseful for and to whom? To you?

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 08:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
MIESQ Says:

The fact that it was so easily dismissed and with that language would scream out on appeal. Because where is there a bright line that objectively demarks discriminatory attitude?
Esepcially when it involves certain triggers that a particular group is sensitive to.

Read the judges decision before you comment. You have no idea what the judge said or what the court standards are.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 08:07 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:

I'm not poster 7 and I'm not speaking for him either but I didn't read his post the way #8 did and think the reply 3* left is just emotional ranting without any substance. No one questions what positive effects Agri had on the kosher meat business, but don't forget the motive was to make profit. Last I checked Agri is not a 501c3.

My understanding of post 7, and I agree with it, is that there are no reasonable comparisons between Madoff and SMR. Their crimes are different, but more importantly, their attitudes are as well.

Madoff went to the Feds and told them what he did - he didn't wait to be discovered. And clearly with Friday's news, he is working a deal that is rumored to include jail time.

SMR on the other hand, is indignant. The whole family is. Rather than work the system to his advantage, like Madoff, he is trying to pull the race card when there is none, and the conspiracy theorists abound when there is no conspiracy. And while SMR had every right to bring this motion, the reaction then was that playing the race card wouldn't work and could backfire.

And while Madoff clearly wrought more damage than Agri, the way the two are working the system - I wouldn't be surprised at all if Madoff does less time. And that would be a shame.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 09:12 PM Anonymous Says:

This obcession with Shalom Mordechai is beyond disgusting...he dug a hole for all yiddim by raising the antisemtism issue as a defense for his behavior and he lost. Please, reb Shalom Mordechai, stop digging us into a deeper hole.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 08:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Sherree Says:

Reply to #7, what are you saying that Rubashkin forced people to eat kosher and buy his products? Or he forced the workers to work for him? Or he forced the town to rebuild their economy? Madoff is an out and out ganuv, till the day he was caught he still took people's money eventhough he had nothing to sell them but luft!

Rubashskin supplied a product and did it in a way that "WE" could afford it. How much are you paying for meat now????????? See the difference????? It was a small town, it didn't supply enough workers and workers came, whether he went looking for them or not, he didn't force anyone to work for him. They went to him and they were found at Tyson and at Swift and all the other meat packers as well. Interestingly enough, other than these immigrants no one else wants to work in the meat packing industry unless they are well padded through union benefits. Do you belong to a Union? Does your employer allow a union in his business? Can you relate at all to what I am saying?

What exactly do you want Shalom Mordechai to be remorseful for and to whom? To you?

actually im paying the same as before and on some meat items even less. so stop with ur holier then though attitude of rubashkin trying to help people . helping people by hurting others in the process is the lowest one can be.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 08:24 PM c Says:

Reply to #8  
Sherree Says:

Reply to #7, what are you saying that Rubashkin forced people to eat kosher and buy his products? Or he forced the workers to work for him? Or he forced the town to rebuild their economy? Madoff is an out and out ganuv, till the day he was caught he still took people's money eventhough he had nothing to sell them but luft!

Rubashskin supplied a product and did it in a way that "WE" could afford it. How much are you paying for meat now????????? See the difference????? It was a small town, it didn't supply enough workers and workers came, whether he went looking for them or not, he didn't force anyone to work for him. They went to him and they were found at Tyson and at Swift and all the other meat packers as well. Interestingly enough, other than these immigrants no one else wants to work in the meat packing industry unless they are well padded through union benefits. Do you belong to a Union? Does your employer allow a union in his business? Can you relate at all to what I am saying?

What exactly do you want Shalom Mordechai to be remorseful for and to whom? To you?

Your argument is childish and naive. It has been repeated countless times on this blog and, frankly, no one cares.

You have to accept the reality that there are laws that are to obeyed by the rubashan family or else they will be punished. They are not above the American laws. This is not Russia.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 10:23 PM obsessive rubashkin haters Says:

Can you obsessive rubashkin haters just take a chill pill. A man is trying to fight for his life and all you can do is criticize every step. let him be.

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 Mar 07, 2009 at 10:07 PM Anonymous Says:

what a relief it is not see anymore of those rubashkin/agri/arons products on my local town. we have totally eraticated that poison . ubeearta hara meekirbecha BH

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 09:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

what a relief it is not see anymore of those rubashkin/agri/arons products on my local town. we have totally eraticated that poison . ubeearta hara meekirbecha BH

amen! in my hometown too.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 10:05 AM Sherree Says:

Your comments are unbelievably ignorant. It is amazing how you keep ignoring the fact that the same immigration issue happened at Tyson and Swift yet no one there was arrested as Sholom Mordechai was.

In addition, chas v'shalom anyone of you or anyone you know should be caught up in any difficult court situation (look what is happening all over the world as the muslims infiltrate country after country and the antisemitsm is growing), the "race" card had to do with Jews having the right of return and if the Anti-defamation league even got involved on that one. But of course you are too hateful to see that, you must judge him according to your standards. But fine, let the judge throw it out, the next time a prosecuter wants to use that against a helegeh Rav like the "S" who is in the middle of an FBI investigation you better not be shouting "anti-semitism or racism" because I will call you on it!

I don't know where you live, but my butcher bill went up, and when I was in Miami this winter, the meat there was so expensive I chose chicken. Yes life goes on without Rubashkin meat, but please be a mench. He did nothing to you, you don't know him and obviously you don't know his family or you wouldn't be speaking like this. Yes of course everyone is in business to make a profit including you. How else would we take care of our families? But there is profit and there is Madoff. You can always make a 10, 20, 30 or 40 percent profit or more. It is a person's choice how much profit they want to make on the backs of their customers. The cheshbon they made was to keep the prices as low as they could. If you choose not to believe that, it is your business. But this sinas chinam for another Jew who did absolutely nothing to harm you or anyone else is beyond comprehension.

Not having rachmonus on a Jew who sat in Jail for months away from his children and family without the right to bail because the prosecuters used the fact that "Israel has a right of return" law is just plain evil.

Please stop this Rubashin bashing already, there is enough anti-semitism promoted by the muslims. Zes shoin genuk. Maybe you could use your energy to speak about how the muslim influence has gotten England to remove all mention of the Holocaust from their school books.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 11:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

pay the fine..be as man enough with the antisemitisim crap..

In your very blunt language you are right and longer Rubashkin's lawyer or whoever comes up with all kind of excuses 'la merde" stinks more and continues headlines and with it the chillul hashem of having to answer federal charges. Stupidity is incurable.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 11:17 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
Sherree Says:

Your comments are unbelievably ignorant. It is amazing how you keep ignoring the fact that the same immigration issue happened at Tyson and Swift yet no one there was arrested as Sholom Mordechai was.

In addition, chas v'shalom anyone of you or anyone you know should be caught up in any difficult court situation (look what is happening all over the world as the muslims infiltrate country after country and the antisemitsm is growing), the "race" card had to do with Jews having the right of return and if the Anti-defamation league even got involved on that one. But of course you are too hateful to see that, you must judge him according to your standards. But fine, let the judge throw it out, the next time a prosecuter wants to use that against a helegeh Rav like the "S" who is in the middle of an FBI investigation you better not be shouting "anti-semitism or racism" because I will call you on it!

I don't know where you live, but my butcher bill went up, and when I was in Miami this winter, the meat there was so expensive I chose chicken. Yes life goes on without Rubashkin meat, but please be a mench. He did nothing to you, you don't know him and obviously you don't know his family or you wouldn't be speaking like this. Yes of course everyone is in business to make a profit including you. How else would we take care of our families? But there is profit and there is Madoff. You can always make a 10, 20, 30 or 40 percent profit or more. It is a person's choice how much profit they want to make on the backs of their customers. The cheshbon they made was to keep the prices as low as they could. If you choose not to believe that, it is your business. But this sinas chinam for another Jew who did absolutely nothing to harm you or anyone else is beyond comprehension.

Not having rachmonus on a Jew who sat in Jail for months away from his children and family without the right to bail because the prosecuters used the fact that "Israel has a right of return" law is just plain evil.

Please stop this Rubashin bashing already, there is enough anti-semitism promoted by the muslims. Zes shoin genuk. Maybe you could use your energy to speak about how the muslim influence has gotten England to remove all mention of the Holocaust from their school books.

“ Your comments are unbelievably ignorant. It is amazing how you keep ignoring the fact that the same immigration issue happened at Tyson and Swift yet no one there was arrested as Sholom Mordechai was."

Do you think that immigtarion issues were the only thing that he was arrested on? ICE did not find packs and packs of blank ID forms IN THE OFFICE at tyson and swift. Tyson and swift were cases where the workers came with their own forms. Rubashkin MADE THE FORMS FOR THEM. If you cannot see the difference, then don't blog with your lies

Where is your rachmanus for the Jews who lost their parnossa when Rubashkin decided to UNDERCUT prices in order to gain market share. What halachic basis do you have for that?.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 11:25 AM Shaul in Monsey Says:

Reply to #17  
Sherree Says:

Your comments are unbelievably ignorant. It is amazing how you keep ignoring the fact that the same immigration issue happened at Tyson and Swift yet no one there was arrested as Sholom Mordechai was.

In addition, chas v'shalom anyone of you or anyone you know should be caught up in any difficult court situation (look what is happening all over the world as the muslims infiltrate country after country and the antisemitsm is growing), the "race" card had to do with Jews having the right of return and if the Anti-defamation league even got involved on that one. But of course you are too hateful to see that, you must judge him according to your standards. But fine, let the judge throw it out, the next time a prosecuter wants to use that against a helegeh Rav like the "S" who is in the middle of an FBI investigation you better not be shouting "anti-semitism or racism" because I will call you on it!

I don't know where you live, but my butcher bill went up, and when I was in Miami this winter, the meat there was so expensive I chose chicken. Yes life goes on without Rubashkin meat, but please be a mench. He did nothing to you, you don't know him and obviously you don't know his family or you wouldn't be speaking like this. Yes of course everyone is in business to make a profit including you. How else would we take care of our families? But there is profit and there is Madoff. You can always make a 10, 20, 30 or 40 percent profit or more. It is a person's choice how much profit they want to make on the backs of their customers. The cheshbon they made was to keep the prices as low as they could. If you choose not to believe that, it is your business. But this sinas chinam for another Jew who did absolutely nothing to harm you or anyone else is beyond comprehension.

Not having rachmonus on a Jew who sat in Jail for months away from his children and family without the right to bail because the prosecuters used the fact that "Israel has a right of return" law is just plain evil.

Please stop this Rubashin bashing already, there is enough anti-semitism promoted by the muslims. Zes shoin genuk. Maybe you could use your energy to speak about how the muslim influence has gotten England to remove all mention of the Holocaust from their school books.

Can you clarify if anyone at Tyson paid cash to workers to falsify their records, or hired children? I'm not being sarcastic, I'd like to know. From what I heard, the Agri raid was far more involved and lead to much more evidence against the Rubashkin's than any violations at Tyson. Which raises another issue, that of the numerous problems the USDA had at Agri which were not the case at Tyson.

No one is saying they don't have rachmonis on the Rubashkins. But your comments are historical revisionism at their best (read, worst) and require refutation. SMR was not denied bail because of any right of return issues. That is a canard, ma'am. He was denied bail because he was determined to be a flight risk. The Scoles decision denying bail made a casual reference to right of return, but was in no way, shape or form based on that. And it is precisely these perversions of truth that push public opinion even further from Rubashkin support. And that is a shame. Because even I find many of the comments against Rubashkin shocking, yet totally in line with the way this case is being handled.

Objective and honest support for SMR and the entire family should be de rigeur here. The problem is that too many supporters go off on this whacky anti semite conspiracy PETA the Boogey man jig and it is so utterly ridiculous and transparent that no one listens to anything you have to say.

And your comments about what the Rubashkin's decided to make in terms of profits are just appalingly naive. Agri used mafia-like tactics including stong arming to gain shelf space. Sure, when you control the shelves you can work on a tighter margin because volume will make it up. Face facts.

I'm 100% for supporting any yid in truble, even in spite their own attitiudes that would suggest they deserve less. But comments like yours that play on feelings rather than facts, and distorted facts at that, are really of no consequence.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 11:56 AM baltimore survivor Says:

Reply to #20  
Shaul in Monsey Says:

Can you clarify if anyone at Tyson paid cash to workers to falsify their records, or hired children? I'm not being sarcastic, I'd like to know. From what I heard, the Agri raid was far more involved and lead to much more evidence against the Rubashkin's than any violations at Tyson. Which raises another issue, that of the numerous problems the USDA had at Agri which were not the case at Tyson.

No one is saying they don't have rachmonis on the Rubashkins. But your comments are historical revisionism at their best (read, worst) and require refutation. SMR was not denied bail because of any right of return issues. That is a canard, ma'am. He was denied bail because he was determined to be a flight risk. The Scoles decision denying bail made a casual reference to right of return, but was in no way, shape or form based on that. And it is precisely these perversions of truth that push public opinion even further from Rubashkin support. And that is a shame. Because even I find many of the comments against Rubashkin shocking, yet totally in line with the way this case is being handled.

Objective and honest support for SMR and the entire family should be de rigeur here. The problem is that too many supporters go off on this whacky anti semite conspiracy PETA the Boogey man jig and it is so utterly ridiculous and transparent that no one listens to anything you have to say.

And your comments about what the Rubashkin's decided to make in terms of profits are just appalingly naive. Agri used mafia-like tactics including stong arming to gain shelf space. Sure, when you control the shelves you can work on a tighter margin because volume will make it up. Face facts.

I'm 100% for supporting any yid in truble, even in spite their own attitiudes that would suggest they deserve less. But comments like yours that play on feelings rather than facts, and distorted facts at that, are really of no consequence.

Your comments is based on sanity and not on a pathological persecution complex .Even though I was beaten in concentration camp , lost my family and needed long term medical care not all accusations are based on rishis. Unfortunately we cause so much rishis . On Broadway there is a large photo supply store , shomer shabbes and I understand whoever comes receives generous tzedaka. They are listed by consumer report as the best photo supply. There are other frum large businesses who run a honest business , make a profit , give tzedaka and never have a run in with the federal government. Unfortunately it is easy ascribe failed business ethic to antisemitism. If you wish I can name a long list of Yiddishe businesses who have the same failings. By the way whenever I see product and it is produced by Agri I don't buy it.

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 02:00 PM 1084 Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

Now that the antisemite card was thrown out of the deck, what is the next step for that brilliant defense team?
Sholom had better plead guilty, pay his fine and go on with his life. Isn't that the way of a sucessful businessman? That is what Milhouse wants us to believe.

very nice milhouse how cosiderate

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 05:25 PM Meatloaf Says:

#20 said...
"Can you clarify if anyone at Tyson paid cash to workers to falsify their records, or hired children? "

No such charges were ever brought against Tyson or Swift nor were any of the owners, managers or supervisors at those plants accused of such things. Nor have any of the raids that have taken place since found evidence of management involvement in such issues. The Rubashkin's are in a class almost by themselves. There have been other firms - one in Texas, I believe - who were accused of supplying employees with false documents.

BTW, within two weeks of the raid last May. ads appeared in a Guatemalan newspaper for a meat plant in Postville Iowa looking for workers. There was only one meat plant in Postville!

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 Mar 08, 2009 at 08:02 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:

Reply to #23  
Meatloaf Says:

#20 said...
"Can you clarify if anyone at Tyson paid cash to workers to falsify their records, or hired children? "

No such charges were ever brought against Tyson or Swift nor were any of the owners, managers or supervisors at those plants accused of such things. Nor have any of the raids that have taken place since found evidence of management involvement in such issues. The Rubashkin's are in a class almost by themselves. There have been other firms - one in Texas, I believe - who were accused of supplying employees with false documents.

BTW, within two weeks of the raid last May. ads appeared in a Guatemalan newspaper for a meat plant in Postville Iowa looking for workers. There was only one meat plant in Postville!

Thanks so much for the clarification. The poster Sherree made references that made it seem like Tyson and Swift were as guilty as Agri but they were getting a free ride while SMR was being persecuted, er, prosecuted. I guess that's what a propaganda machine is essentially. Lies.

PS...poster 21, Be matzliach! Yudaman!!!

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