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Washington - A Day Later, No 'Jerusalem, Israel,' On US Government Maps

Published on: December 7, 2017 03:20 PM
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US and Israel national flags hang on the building of the Jerusalem Municipality, in  Jerusalem, 07 December 2017. EPAUS and Israel national flags hang on the building of the Jerusalem Municipality, in Jerusalem, 07 December 2017. EPA

Washington - You won’t find “Jerusalem, Israel,” on any U.S. government maps. Ditto for documents. And despite President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, you still won’t.

A day after Trump’s dramatic decision, much U.S. policy on the disputed holy city appeared largely unchanged. As a result, you can forget about seeing Jerusalem referred to as Israeli in any U.S. passport anytime soon.

Trump’s announcement may have infuriated the world, sparked violent Palestinian demonstrations and raised fears of unruly protests elsewhere. But he maintained that he didn’t take a position on the boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem or resolution of its contested borders.

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The State Department backed up that assertion Thursday. It told The Associated Press it doesn’t plan to change several longstanding policies regarding Jerusalem that were carefully crafted to avoid offending one side or the other.

A look at what’s not changing:

THE U.S. EMBASSY

Trump has directed the State Department to begin the process of moving the embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. That move won’t happen overnight.

The building will remain in Tel Aviv for the foreseeable future, U.S. officials say, adding that it’s unlikely any Jerusalem embassy will be opened before the end of Trump’s first term.

Although Trump ordered planning to begin immediately, officials say it will take a minimum of three to four years to design and build a new facility and then actually relocate the embassy.

In some cases, the process of moving an embassy takes even longer. Perhaps tellingly, Trump on Wednesday signed without fanfare a waiver to the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act that delays any move by another six months. Unless the law is changed, Trump will have to continue to sign waivers until the new facility is ready. Otherwise, the State Department risks losing significant funding.

PASSPORTS

Some pro-Israel groups had hoped Trump’s decision would herald a change in a long-standing U.S. policy that bars American citizens born in Jerusalem from recording “Israel” as their place of birth.

The State Department said Thursday it wouldn’t revise the policy, which was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2015.

“At this time, there are no changes to our current practices regarding place of birth on Consular Reports of Birth Abroad and U.S. Passports,” the department said in response to a query from the AP.

Current policy holds that American citizens born in Jerusalem have only the city as their birthplace in their passports, unless they were born before Israel’s creation in 1948. In those cases, they can list “Palestine” as their birthplace.

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The State Department says officials are looking at ways to identify Jerusalem as the capital, such as commonly used bold or underlined lettering or a star notation, on official maps but that they won’t be redrawn.

“The president is taking a specific step in affirming that the United States believes that Jerusalem has and will continue to serve as Israel’s capital,” the department told the AP. “The U.S. is not backing off efforts toward encouraging the parties to resolve their differences over final status issues in a comprehensive peace agreement. The specific boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem are subject to final status negotiations. The United States is not taking a position on boundaries or borders.”

OTHER DOCUMENTS

It remained unclear Thursday whether the State Department or other federal agencies will alter their policy of not identifying Jerusalem within Israel in documents such as policy papers, travel announcements or transcripts of official events.

Previous administrations often struggled with the studied neutrality over the city, routinely making embarrassing corrections to documents identifying the city as “Jerusalem, Israel.”

Officials said Thursday no documents have been revised since Trump’s announcement, and no declaration of a new policy regarding government papers has been announced.

 

 



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 Dec 07, 2017 at 03:42 PM Anonymous Says:

fake news, fake president, fake israel policy, heil to the incoming senator from georgia

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 03:46 PM yonasonw Says:

This would be a chiddush only to Trump's acolytes. If people die in disturbances growing out of yesterday's needless pricking of the sleeping dog, the blood will be on Trump's hands.

And I fully and emotionally support our right to Yerushalayim...but not to a reckless, unnecessary and risk-fraught expression of that right, when there is positive nothing to show for it...other than triumphal jest thumping.

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 04:54 PM Anonymous Says:

well said and true

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 05:27 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

fake news, fake president, fake israel policy, heil to the incoming senator from georgia

Your comment lacks substance.

Here is what's fake about the news, first they kvetch that he does not keep his embassy campiagn promise then they kvetch that he does keep it then they kvetch that things were not changed over night. Guess what, he was the only one who had guts to stand up and say that's it we are keeping our promise. And you hate that. Well Trump is a man of his word. And yes he is the most honest president. He does exactly what he said he would do. And at the least he tries to keep his word to the best of his ability.

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 06:45 PM grandbear Says:

Again our state dept is acting as it wishes against the dictates of our president.Just who is in control of this country.? WHY HAS THE STATE DEPT SUCH POWER TO DICTATE THE COUNTRY'S POLITICS.?

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 06:48 PM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #4  
Educated Archy Says:

Your comment lacks substance.

Here is what's fake about the news, first they kvetch that he does not keep his embassy campiagn promise then they kvetch that he does keep it then they kvetch that things were not changed over night. Guess what, he was the only one who had guts to stand up and say that's it we are keeping our promise. And you hate that. Well Trump is a man of his word. And yes he is the most honest president. He does exactly what he said he would do. And at the least he tries to keep his word to the best of his ability.

Au contraire, unanalytical Archie.

We “kvetched” at the proposal to move the embassy, and merely pointed out Trump’s failed promise...which in all material respects remains unfulfilled.

All the BS Artist in Chief has done is to ignite a storm with his words, and at the same time salve his loyalist frum and Likudnik groupies.

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 07:48 PM Hoshomer Says:

These liberal politicians make me sick, they are a bunch of hacks

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 08:05 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #6  
yonasonw Says:

Au contraire, unanalytical Archie.

We “kvetched” at the proposal to move the embassy, and merely pointed out Trump’s failed promise...which in all material respects remains unfulfilled.

All the BS Artist in Chief has done is to ignite a storm with his words, and at the same time salve his loyalist frum and Likudnik groupies.

Don’t try. He really isn’t capable of getting it.

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 08:46 PM JaredKusherIzSorosPartner Says:

All the POTUS must do ...
Change sign of the
"American Consulate" in Jerusalem, to the
"American Embassy."

Simple. Quick. Cheap.

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 Dec 07, 2017 at 09:52 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #6  
yonasonw Says:

Au contraire, unanalytical Archie.

We “kvetched” at the proposal to move the embassy, and merely pointed out Trump’s failed promise...which in all material respects remains unfulfilled.

All the BS Artist in Chief has done is to ignite a storm with his words, and at the same time salve his loyalist frum and Likudnik groupies.

What would you call material respect ? Like at what point would you consider a promise to move the embassy fully kept ? Should trump have made like a prefab embassy and during the announcement plop it down on Jerusalem and say here moved the embassy ? Like at what point is it considered kept ?

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 10:02 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #10  
Educated Archy Says:

What would you call material respect ? Like at what point would you consider a promise to move the embassy fully kept ? Should trump have made like a prefab embassy and during the announcement plop it down on Jerusalem and say here moved the embassy ? Like at what point is it considered kept ?

The six month waivers will continue to be signed for many years, to comply statute, and in the interim nothing will change.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 10:04 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #10  
Educated Archy Says:

What would you call material respect ? Like at what point would you consider a promise to move the embassy fully kept ? Should trump have made like a prefab embassy and during the announcement plop it down on Jerusalem and say here moved the embassy ? Like at what point is it considered kept ?

"Like at what point is it considered kept ?" One thing to watch is the Passport issue, with respect which, as of yesterday, Thursday, the State Department said there would be no change.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 10:33 AM abilenetx Says:

Thank you #9 I have been saying this since it was announced that Jerusalem is the capital and the embassy is being moved. One does not need a multimillion dollar building, for all they have to do is move the plaque and the embassy is moved. If they want to they can even rent a flat of rooms in one of the business buildings to start, but the consulate is just as good.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 10:41 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Educated Archy Says:

Your comment lacks substance.

Here is what's fake about the news, first they kvetch that he does not keep his embassy campiagn promise then they kvetch that he does keep it then they kvetch that things were not changed over night. Guess what, he was the only one who had guts to stand up and say that's it we are keeping our promise. And you hate that. Well Trump is a man of his word. And yes he is the most honest president. He does exactly what he said he would do. And at the least he tries to keep his word to the best of his ability.

Learn english, the final status of Jerusalem will be decided by the parties, do you know what that means???. He gained political points and the status of Ir hakodesh is the same. Master politician and people gobble up the baloney

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 11:10 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #13  
abilenetx Says:

Thank you #9 I have been saying this since it was announced that Jerusalem is the capital and the embassy is being moved. One does not need a multimillion dollar building, for all they have to do is move the plaque and the embassy is moved. If they want to they can even rent a flat of rooms in one of the business buildings to start, but the consulate is just as good.

Embassies are large facilities, with complex and secure communications suites, and having large staffs who handle all matter of major policy issues. Consular offices, by comparison, are much smaller outposts that handle primarily visa, immigration and personal matters...serving as points contact for expatriates and locals alike.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 11:36 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #11  
yonasonw Says:

The six month waivers will continue to be signed for many years, to comply statute, and in the interim nothing will change.

We will see how long those waivers continue. Yes for right now it needs to be signed till plans are put forth. You right away assume he will keep on signing it. I don't assume that. Its ludicrous to think it all can be done over night

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 11:37 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #12  
yonasonw Says:

"Like at what point is it considered kept ?" One thing to watch is the Passport issue, with respect which, as of yesterday, Thursday, the State Department said there would be no change.

Yes that was Thursday. Give it time and space.

Its like when Pollard complained that Obama only let him out but did not let him travel to Israel. You can't get everything overnight.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 11:40 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Learn english, the final status of Jerusalem will be decided by the parties, do you know what that means???. He gained political points and the status of Ir hakodesh is the same. Master politician and people gobble up the baloney

Sure the final status will be decided by the parties. But the Palestinian party does not want Israel to get any part of Jerusalem. This forces them to the reality that they will have to start recognizing the fact that israel has rights.. Once they recognize that they can work out a final status.

The only baloney is that you will never give the president credit where credit is due.

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 Dec 08, 2017 at 02:05 PM JaredKusherIzSorosPartner Says:

Reply to #15  
yonasonw Says:

Embassies are large facilities, with complex and secure communications suites, and having large staffs who handle all matter of major policy issues. Consular offices, by comparison, are much smaller outposts that handle primarily visa, immigration and personal matters...serving as points contact for expatriates and locals alike.

You're right, mostly.
Your typical comparison between the embassies and consular offices is true.

However, the yotzie min haklal is Jerusalem.

The American Consul in Jerusalem is huge, with huge telecommunications infrastructure, security infrastructure and huge staff.

And the TRump administration believe in doing all major policies by himself. No need for bigger staff.

This is Yuge.

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 Dec 11, 2017 at 11:37 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #19  
JaredKusherIzSorosPartner Says:

You're right, mostly.
Your typical comparison between the embassies and consular offices is true.

However, the yotzie min haklal is Jerusalem.

The American Consul in Jerusalem is huge, with huge telecommunications infrastructure, security infrastructure and huge staff.

And the TRump administration believe in doing all major policies by himself. No need for bigger staff.

This is Yuge.

Huge...not Yuge.

And how does the Consular Office in Yerushalayim compare to the Embassy campus in Tel Aviv? Where are military attaches assigned, for example?

Finally, how would you know anything about the communications "infrastructure" in any particular consular office?

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