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New York - Source: Yeshivos Still Protected By 1st Amendment, Despite Cuomo Initiative To Cut Funding To “Discriminatory” Entities

Published on: February 9, 2018 08:33 AM
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New York - An executive order signed by Governor Cuomo that would cut state funding to any entity that discriminates against individuals who practice alternative lifestyles has caused concern in the Jewish community, but according to a source in Albany, those worries are completely unfounded.

Executive Order 177 was signed by Governor Cuomo on February 4th, and was designed to “further protect New Yorkers’ civil rights by banning all state agencies and authorities from doing business with companies that promote or tolerate discrimination.”

But while some have wondered aloud if the order would force yeshivos to choose between accepting much needed state funding or admitting students whose moral values are in conflict with religious law, the source said that those concerns are much ado about nothing because by definition, an executive order cannot supersede the Constitution and its statutes.

The source, who spoke to VIN News on condition of anonymity, said that the governor’s order was subject to all religious protections currently offered by the First Amendment, which would exempt religious schools, synagogues and, possibly, non-profit communal organizations.

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Cuomo originally announced the new initiative last Saturday at a Human Rights Campaign event taking place in Manhattan, reported NBC News (http://nbcnews.to/2BLTN64).  In his remarks, the governor faulted President Donald Trump for allowing discrimination against those who practice alternative lifestyles by providing religious liberty protections under federal law.

“What that means is a business can refuse to serve LGBTQ individuals because it violates their religious beliefs,” said Cuomo. “They did that. So today I’m signing an executive order prohibiting New York State government from doing business with any entity that discriminates against any New Yorker, period.”

Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who criticized Cuomo on Twitter earlier in the week for refusing to respect cultural sensitivities, said that he was pleased to hear that the finer points of the executive order had been clarified and would be tolerant of religious sensitivities.

“We are living in a period now where practically everyone in the Democratic party is running for president and everyone want to be to the left of the left,” Hikind told VIN News.  “We have gotten to the point where people have moved so far to the left that they just fall off the cliff.”



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 Feb 09, 2018 at 08:50 AM ohvei Says:

Oh I thought we finally got the ישועה for the poor kids that are not accepted in our yeshivas, I guess we are Still in גלות.

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 09:43 AM AmYisroel Says:

with this order caterers and wedding halls will have to cater and rent their halls for gay weddings

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 10:11 AM Reb Yid Says:

Reply to #2  
AmYisroel Says:

with this order caterers and wedding halls will have to cater and rent their halls for gay weddings

That's the problem. It protects the shuls, but not the people.

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 10:36 AM AuthenticSatmar Says:

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AmYisroel Says:

with this order caterers and wedding halls will have to cater and rent their halls for gay weddings

According to a recent court decision that is not so. The court ruled that if I have a store and selling of the shelf items i cannot refuse to sell it to a person with different beliefs than mine. However, making a cake, or flowers, or catering, is an expression and art and I may refuse to create it for an event that I do not support.

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 10:48 AM yonasonw Says:

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AmYisroel Says:

with this order caterers and wedding halls will have to cater and rent their halls for gay weddings

That is simply not true.

Firstly, caterers and wedding halls do not accept federal or other governmental subsidies, cuts to which are the subject of the article.

Secondly, the same secular American Constitution that many here rant at when it protects conduct that is contrary to Torah (and to some people's phobias) would protect a religious school from being forced to violate it's religious tenets.

I do have one question:

In addition to toiva issues, what conduct do you believe would justify a shul or Yeshiva from prohibiting membership or association?

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 11:16 AM Your tax money at work Says:

I am glad to see that Gov. Cuomo is utilizing his tax funded position effectively and doing his part to help the gay shidduch crisis. Now we have one less impediment for gay people to marry. They will no longer be discriminated against if they want to have kosher food at their wedding. Imagine if this is the kind of thing that our crooked evil politicians are busy with when recreational Marijuana is still illegal in New York State, what will happen when Cuomo is able to smoke it freely in the open.

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 01:13 PM Educated Archy Says:

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yonasonw Says:

That is simply not true.

Firstly, caterers and wedding halls do not accept federal or other governmental subsidies, cuts to which are the subject of the article.

Secondly, the same secular American Constitution that many here rant at when it protects conduct that is contrary to Torah (and to some people's phobias) would protect a religious school from being forced to violate it's religious tenets.

I do have one question:

In addition to toiva issues, what conduct do you believe would justify a shul or Yeshiva from prohibiting membership or association?

You are ill informed and deliberately misconceiving info

Yes caterers don't get public money but the commentor was pointing out the danger as to how it starts. Once we accpet the notion that you can't refuse LGBT's Ateres Avraham (which by the way is in a school that takes public money) and shicks bakery will be sued for discrimination next and get no protection.
Furthermore, give you libs enough time and you will force every school to provide transgender bathrooms

Re The same secular American Constitution that many here rant at when it protects conduct that is contrary to Torah (and to some people's phobias) would protect a religious school from being forced to violate it's religious tenets.

I don't believe that' true either. I think at the end of the day society is so sick to the extent that it can force bakers to bake for gay weddings against his belief then it win't protect our religion either(Don't forget we are not talikng about a person who happens to be gay who decided he want a birthday cake. We are talking about someone who wnats a cake to celebarte a gay wedding. Its shocking that I can't deny such a thing. Its literally sodom and very sad)

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 01:29 PM triumphinwhitehouse Says:

the aguda has many of its board members as donors to Cuomo and the aguda is the reason that tuition relief didn't come as they followed Cuomo who opposed tuition relief this was 2 years ago.

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 Feb 09, 2018 at 02:48 PM Why are so many Liberals are illiterate Says:

Reply to #5  
yonasonw Says:

That is simply not true.

Firstly, caterers and wedding halls do not accept federal or other governmental subsidies, cuts to which are the subject of the article.

Secondly, the same secular American Constitution that many here rant at when it protects conduct that is contrary to Torah (and to some people's phobias) would protect a religious school from being forced to violate it's religious tenets.

I do have one question:

In addition to toiva issues, what conduct do you believe would justify a shul or Yeshiva from prohibiting membership or association?

Open would think that an intellectual like you would know the grammatical difference between “its” and “it’s.” Perhaps get some education and a side benefit might be that your views will start making some sense too.

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 Feb 10, 2018 at 12:10 AM Holding Says:

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Educated Archy Says:

You are ill informed and deliberately misconceiving info

Yes caterers don't get public money but the commentor was pointing out the danger as to how it starts. Once we accpet the notion that you can't refuse LGBT's Ateres Avraham (which by the way is in a school that takes public money) and shicks bakery will be sued for discrimination next and get no protection.
Furthermore, give you libs enough time and you will force every school to provide transgender bathrooms

Re The same secular American Constitution that many here rant at when it protects conduct that is contrary to Torah (and to some people's phobias) would protect a religious school from being forced to violate it's religious tenets.

I don't believe that' true either. I think at the end of the day society is so sick to the extent that it can force bakers to bake for gay weddings against his belief then it win't protect our religion either(Don't forget we are not talikng about a person who happens to be gay who decided he want a birthday cake. We are talking about someone who wnats a cake to celebarte a gay wedding. Its shocking that I can't deny such a thing. Its literally sodom and very sad)

As far as I know, most bathrooms in most homes are unisex and there are no problems with anyone. Why should it be any different outside?

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 Feb 10, 2018 at 08:46 PM AmYisroel Says:

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Holding Says:

As far as I know, most bathrooms in most homes are unisex and there are no problems with anyone. Why should it be any different outside?

He said bathrooms in schools
This would also be in businesses and public building so when you go to a museum your daughter goes to the bathroom men will be able to go in at the same time

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