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Kiryas Joel, NY – Having recently opened a mothers’ rest home they built with a succession of grants totaling $10.5 million, Kiryas Joel officials are now seeking another $2.25 million for the building, this time through the federal stimulus package.
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The grant request for the 55-bed center, known as Aishes Chayil D’Kiryas Joel, was included on a list of thousands of projects submitted to the state to claim a piece of the $787 billion package enacted in February.
There is no guarantee Kiryas Joel’s project is even eligible for funding through one of the stimulus programs. The list on which it appears is merely an unedited collection of requests the state has fielded.
A short description provided to the state indicates that Kiryas Joel wants to add 18 beds to Aishes Chayil, a three-story center where Orthodox Jewish mothers pay up to $185 a night to recuperate with their newborns before returning to their homes.
The proposal also calls for construction of a nursery and a “medical arts area.” The 50,000-square-foot building already has a nursery, but the village has yet to build the doctors’ offices that were in their plans from the outset.
Village Administrator Gedalye Szegedin, who is also the executive director of Aishes Chayil, didn’t return a call for comment.
Village officials estimated the project would cost $3.5 million when they began seeking grants in 2001. But the expense gradually ballooned to $11.4 million as the village secured one grant after another from allies in Albany and Washington to pay for the work.
Then-Gov. George Pataki and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver were the project’s chief benefactors.
This is going to blow up in their faces one day.
I am not Satmar or any Chusid.
The idea of a rest home of this type is brilliant. It will save untold monies and tragedies that result from medical problem that result from sub-standard care at home resulting in neglected babies, accidents and more. SIDS is a terrible thing. How about an exhausted mother sleeping in the bed with a baby and an accident happens, sometimes labeled SIDS.
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My wife was there, this place is one of a kind. it beats any other קימפעארו היים
why can’t we פארגין them.
“Village Administrator Gedalye Szegedin, who is also the executive director of Aishes Chayil, didn’t return a call for comment. “
Isn’t this a conflict of interest? Something doesn’t seem right.
# 1 is correct. I never could understand why a hotel for new moms got grant money. I realize its great for a new mom to have a place to rest and relax, but everywhere outside of KJ, moms are kicked out of the hospital as soon as possible and rely on friends and family if they are lucky to have that support, or manage themselves — they don’t get a hotel funded with tax dollars. Isn’t KJ supposed to be just that type of community where neighbors and relatives help each other out?
I also wonder where the $185/night is coming from in a community that has the highest poverty and food stamp rates.
People pay so much to go there!
why are they charging 130 a night? they didn’t get enough?
At $185 a night it should cover more then the expenses.
This is no charity Kimpeturin home.
There are many handicapped children waiting for placement in group homes. Unfortunately the state froze the money that was supposed to be used to build the homes. I understand the need for a weeks of respite after a baby is born but how about the respite that parents of special needs children need? I am sure there are other very worthy projects that have lost their funding. They already have this kimpatorin home. That 2.5 million dollars could be better spent.
They can go to a hotel for $185/night. Shouldn’t the grants make it free or low cost. Someone is collecting at both ends. And the taxpayer is covering it.
#8 #5 you are talking in the velt arein  230;#1 please take a look at the facility and the food what kimperturens get and the staff of nurses and cooks and cleaning ladys plus supplies which 185 is a joke #2 most of the ladies there are not from monroe ?and there is no place available there is a huge list evreybody wants to get in there  230;
it sounds like this place realy cost a lot less and the people got greedy when they saw the $$$ coming in. if they took public money (grants etc) they shouldn’t be aloud to charge $185 a night.
further… it sounds to me like these guys run a very profitable business, they have no vacancy and they charge alot. i don’t understand why the government is giving them money for such a project, it’s the equivilant of giving grants to a hotel in order for it to open up. it makes no sense.
give these guys credit, wish are official’s would care so much about our city, then these guys do for this village, all the time and money they spend in making the right connections, sure pays off, great job, keep it up
My wife was there she loved it she says she would even pay more just wants to go back for the relaxation the care for the babies the food you name it its worth every penny and she does not understand how they can survive with 185 a night of course they need more funding please check out this place and then talk the satmare rebitzen build this for a mitzvah not for profit she comes evrey day and asks the ladys how the food is and how the rooms are she is a big balas chesed and then there is the head of the facility Mrs Farkas she is fantastic she does an excellent job evrey mom deserves to go to this place after a baby its a yeshia for klal yisroel. there are ladys that come from montreal to rest there
How can I become a partner?
Its so sad to see the commentts made here by other yiden….
My wife was just there for a week,what a beautiful place,they have doctors and nurses there all the time giving the mothers and newborns the best care possible,
Then they have heimeshe ladies helping out the mothers all day,and they serve 5 star meals 3 times a day,
I guess anyone saying that $180 a day should cover all their expences has never run any major operation in their life,
Please find me a hotel where you can check in that has doctors and nurses and maids and serve 5 star meals 3 times a day for this kind of money,
sorry guys i have no problem with 175 a night, however who ever heard of a place like that getting grants, the Hilton may charge 175 a night but they don’t get the government to foot the bill
Just read today’s comments in “the local newspaper” from Orange County, and see what chilul hashem this is causing and what the goyish neighbors are saying about this.
And I thought the Satmar’s were so makpid on “hisgaros B’eimos” (not to enrage the gentiles.) but I guess that is only for Arabs. The white red necks from orange county have a different rule.
I see lots of times negative comments which I don’t know maybe that guy has a point and I don’t know all the facts ..at this kiperturen heim I know the facts and 500 dollars a night does not cover them and this is a kiperturn heim that the satmar rebetzin decided she will do this to the best for yidishe moms what need more then anything the rest and relaxation and BH she was sucsessful in building it up to the best and keep up the good work rebetzin we need more like you for klal yisroel
I dont understand the whole concept! We had 5 children ( one set of twins ) and my wife went home after 2 nights of being in the hospital. Yes she was tired, but she was extremely happy to be back in her OWN home surrounded by her other children and family. Why do all these women seem to not be able to handle “life”. Why doesnt their husband help out? where are their family? Are they that fragile that they cant do with a little lack of sleep? We all do it and get over it!
You all seem to be missing the point. Yes, it’s a wonderful place for a new mother to rest and relax. But the main issue is why does the rest of New York have to pay for your comfort? There’s no one denying you a permit for this luxury, so just go ahead and fund it yourself!
While it is important for new mothers to rest, where does the average American woman go to recuperate from childbirth? If the government pays for a Jewish rest home for new mothers, will they open up similar facilities for other mothers? If government money is involved, will the Jewish rest home have to accept non-Jews?
Usually if government is accepted, the program must be opened to all religions.
These Satmer are good they go for the big money. Over here in boro park we are stupid we go for little money. People wake up start lobbieng for the big money make a team like Satmer to see were its possible to get lots of big money from the goverment.
I love when some people just wright without thinkink $185 IS TO MUCH? if you just make some miner calculations you wil wonder how they survive . 55 beds x $185 x 7 days comes out to an income 65000 a week. Now they have to pay at least 21 registered nurses (3 8hour shifts of 7 nurses), two cooks, three meals for 55 mothers, reguler cleaning maintenance, building maintence, huge insurance, electric, gas, water, (maybe tax), a receptionist, and I can just go on forever. The mothers there don’t have to a thing there like making their beds ect. Everything is done for them all they do is eat (and there is food 24 hr), sleep, and YENTY around. so there is no way they cover themselves with $180 a day
10.5 mil is ridiculously high by any reckoning. I don’t envy them when their day of reckoning arrives, and all the pork will come to the surface. Stimulus, indeed. Porkulus sounds more like it.
The Satmar chassidim know how to do it. They dont have fancy degrees, go with nice ties or clean shaven faces. But they are able a tremendous amount of funding for all there projects.
The agudah is busy cutting back on everything when Satmar just keeps the money flowing.
A story happened with the Satmar Rav ZTL. Someone questioned Reb Yoel why the satmar boys arent going to college. The man ask “why shouldnt they go to college and become an accountant?” The rav answer let your boys go to college and become accountants….. this way they can count all the money my chassidim are busy making. I guess he had ruach hakodesh.
I can gurantee that all this stupid commenters about taxes don’t pay them the people who pay taxes work now
it all goes back to healthcare. years ago, you had a baby , they kept you in the hospital for a few days. nowadays they send you home too fast. you dont even have a chance to recuperate. thats why homes like this are needed.
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Anonymous Says:
“ I am not Satmar or any Chusid.
The idea of a rest home of this type is brilliant. It will save untold monies and tragedies that result from medical problem that result from sub-standard care at home resulting in neglected babies, accidents and more. SIDS is a terrible thing. How about an exhausted mother sleeping in the bed with a baby and an accident happens, sometimes labeled SIDS. ”
“How about an exhausted mother sleeping in the bed with a baby and an accident happens, sometimes labeled SIDS.”
Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (sometimes called Crib Death) does not occur from an “accident” like the mother rolling over on the baby. SIDS is a terrifying, unexplained phenomenon where a seemingly healthy baby just dies instantly while sleeping. My cousin’s child was nifter in this way, and 10 years later there is still no explanation.
Yes, tragic accidents happen, but that is not SIDS.
Let me restate;
I am very familiar with SIDS and the percieved explanation for it. I am also familiar with tragic cases of accidental injury that are listed as SIDS, this might go on to avoid lifelong mental anguish to the parent when an accident happens.
funny that a place that charges so much a night goes to the poorest neighborhood in the US. Something is very fishy here. Foodstamps medicaid etc… but they have the money to spend on this
The Stimules Money Is Being Spanded Anyway So Why Should It Go For Other Projects Rather Than This ?
just curious . does this org. have to run ads stating that it is open the public and is not discriminatory against race religion etc. I believe they have to if they are using grants and tax payer money just like schools must advertise this way in the news papers
Suggestion – Why dont they make such a place but not as grand as this one.
Everyone is entitled to some care after a baby but at $185 a night not everyone can afford.
I have been to other place similiar to this. Why do they need to serve salmon for Lunch ($4 a slice) when I would be very happy with a hearty soup and tuna sandwich. This home is a great idea but it is not affordable for everyone
i was there 2 weeks ago I paid 120 a night the same as skver & lakewood and it is much nicer there were 48 people only about 10 were from kj
kol hakavod for kj, evry village can choose to ask for a grant and they would most probably get it , the only diffrents do they care for their citizens as much as kj does. besides other cities spend their grants on such nobel projects as pregnancy prevention and drugs awareness and dont forget the most nobel cause of all the ENVIROMENT! like some endangered bug!! so stop whining all of u ur just a lil jealous!
I’ve been in all of these kimpeturen homes already, and I must say that even 185 does still not cover for what you get there. its unbelievable what beautiful place this is. all these people talking are just as long as they don’t need it. and bug chassidishe political issues involving. (and of cause a bunch of jealousy people around earth. in just ten years a yiddishe mamma having a baby will have a hard time finding a place where to go, cause eveywere will be full. so let that big williamsburg rabbi open on for his chevra. hatzlocha rabah.
The $787 billion stimulous package is all ligitimate but for the $2.3 million requested by Jews for the sake of our future generations. A classic ‘Jew-hating-trap’ if ever there was one. Why do we Jews fall into their trap?