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FILE - Grand Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum speaks at a mass gathering of Satmar Hasidic Jews in the Brooklyn borough of New York December 2, 2015. ReutersFILE - Grand Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum speaks at a mass gathering of Satmar Hasidic Jews in the Brooklyn borough of New York December 2, 2015. Reuters

New York - Thousands of Satmar chasidim are expected to turn out on Sunday for a massive unity event in protest of Zionism.

Starting at 3 PM at the Nassau Coliseum, the convention is timed to coincide with the 20th day of Sivan commemoration of the murder of thousands of Jews and the burning of many sifrei Torah in Eastern Europe several hundred years ago.

The fact that the event is being held on the same day as the 70th annual Celebrate Israel parade was purely unintentional, said Yitz Farkas, one of the convention’s organizers.

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More than 10,000 people are expected to turn out amid heavy security at the coliseum for the three hour event, which will feature words of inspiration from the Satmar Grand Rabbi, Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, and the head of the Eidah Charedis in Jerusalem, Rabbi Moshe Sternbuch, and several other unspecified speakers. 

According to Farkas, the last similar event took place in 1978 at the New York State Armory and was led by the Satmar Grand Rabbi, Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum. 

Farkas said that the event is being highly anticipated in the Satmar community.

“This is going be really huge, something really special,” said Farkas. 



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 Jun 01, 2018 at 05:16 PM K Cup Says:

Bunch of Sickos. Hashomer/Alterg you proud of your people. What a chilul Hashem

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 05:18 PM The Professor Says:

Purely coincidental that it falls on the same day as the Salute to Israel parade.
If you really believe that line, I have a bridge for sale. It's a good way to keep some of the yunger Satmar chevra (who might go to Manhattan to learn about what other Jews do as a kiddush HaShem) busy with other activities.

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 05:30 PM kehati Says:

Satmar and its followers have become museum relics. Today, most Jewish children are born in EY/Israel, and almost half of all Jews live there. What may or may not have been true 100 or 80 years ago is totally irrelevant today. Herzel has been dead for 114 years and Ben Gurion has been dead for 45 years. The fact that Satmar is still fighting these battles, while the rest of the religious Jewish world has moved on, makes Satmar look stupid, at best, or, at worst, merely pathetic.

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 05:34 PM Reb Yid Says:

Not sure who advertises more for the Zionists....the Zionists or the satmar. As the brisker rov said, the best derech is just to ignore them

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 06:11 PM Educated Archy Says:

It's important to distinguish between anti Zionism and pro Muslims . That's a key difference between satmar and netura karta. The Reba zya believed we need to denounce the medina while not supporting Muslims either . Internally we denounce the evils of Zionism among us . Externally , for the goyim we only denounce zionsits when they cheper frum values and only re frum values . For example digging up graves that are sacred to us or army drafts . In those instances we protest at the embassy . But we never out right show any support for Hamas or Abbas . When it comes to security outwardly we still support the tzionim vs Abbas . And we support politicians who support zionists vs arabs . ( That doesn't mean that " on the inside " we don't criticize israels actions as he did in the six day war calling the victory "masa satan")

Kepoint it's sticky and nuisanced . When kanoim distort the Reba zya shita to mean support Hamas they are wrong and distorting the truth aka fake news

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 06:27 PM Liepa Says:

As if there aren't hatred towards Jews these clowns are going to take it one step further, in a public display of Jew upon Jew hatred.

He calls himself a grand rabbi, for SHAME !!!

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 06:42 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #5  
Educated Archy Says:

It's important to distinguish between anti Zionism and pro Muslims . That's a key difference between satmar and netura karta. The Reba zya believed we need to denounce the medina while not supporting Muslims either . Internally we denounce the evils of Zionism among us . Externally , for the goyim we only denounce zionsits when they cheper frum values and only re frum values . For example digging up graves that are sacred to us or army drafts . In those instances we protest at the embassy . But we never out right show any support for Hamas or Abbas . When it comes to security outwardly we still support the tzionim vs Abbas . And we support politicians who support zionists vs arabs . ( That doesn't mean that " on the inside " we don't criticize israels actions as he did in the six day war calling the victory "masa satan")

Kepoint it's sticky and nuisanced . When kanoim distort the Reba zya shita to mean support Hamas they are wrong and distorting the truth aka fake news

Your post is disingenuous. The article itself states that the last time a protest of this magnitude was organized in 1978 by satmar under R’ Yoel.

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 06:43 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #1  
K Cup Says:

Bunch of Sickos. Hashomer/Alterg you proud of your people. What a chilul Hashem

You got your facts wrong. hashomer is as a violent Zionist ideologue as they come.

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 06:32 PM Judith Says:

How can one purchase tickets ? At the door or in advance ? Nothing is posted on the coliseum website .

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
K Cup Says:

Bunch of Sickos. Hashomer/Alterg you proud of your people. What a chilul Hashem

Chilul Hashem is that the Zionist regime say they represent ALL Jews. Thats a chilul hashem!

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:25 PM Aron1 Says:

Reply to #3  
kehati Says:

Satmar and its followers have become museum relics. Today, most Jewish children are born in EY/Israel, and almost half of all Jews live there. What may or may not have been true 100 or 80 years ago is totally irrelevant today. Herzel has been dead for 114 years and Ben Gurion has been dead for 45 years. The fact that Satmar is still fighting these battles, while the rest of the religious Jewish world has moved on, makes Satmar look stupid, at best, or, at worst, merely pathetic.

Thems a whole lot of museum relics, dontcha think?
There are more Satmar chasidim today than ever before. One of the reasons for that is their refusal to capitulate. They are, on a whole, steadfast in their beliefs. Whether you agree with those beliefs or not is not their concern. Their beliefs are real, not chosen for posterity. They are not fickle, like some of their brethren.
If you think they're "stupid" or "pathetic", well that's more of a commentary on you than of them.

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
kehati Says:

Satmar and its followers have become museum relics. Today, most Jewish children are born in EY/Israel, and almost half of all Jews live there. What may or may not have been true 100 or 80 years ago is totally irrelevant today. Herzel has been dead for 114 years and Ben Gurion has been dead for 45 years. The fact that Satmar is still fighting these battles, while the rest of the religious Jewish world has moved on, makes Satmar look stupid, at best, or, at worst, merely pathetic.

As long as our holy Torah “is around” then we have to keep on fighting the Zionist regime. We are a small voice in a large Zionistic Propaganda but nevertheless thousands of Anti Zionist Jews are here to say “Judaism is not Zionism”. Bless them all!

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:40 PM anon1m0us Says:

#5 that is the propaganda satmar spreads. There is no draft! All you need to do is apply for an exeption and walla, your exempt. Fail to apply because you don't recognize the median will get you drafted!
They did not dig up old Jewish graves. Those were graves from the plilishtims

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:24 PM Money That Can Be Better Spent Says:

Imagine how much good can be done with the money spent to organize this!

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 Jun 01, 2018 at 07:48 PM Anonymous Says:

ignoramuses

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 01:05 AM PaulinSaudi Says:

This sort of thing always puzzled us non-Jews in the readership.

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 02:43 PM lazy-boy Says:

Over a hundred years ago, the rabbis were very much anti Zionism and for a good reason; the zionists at that time used to encourage chillul shabbos and not to do other mitzvos.

Today, there is really NO Zionism or zionists, we have the State of Israel and b"h the religious people here are a growing and thriving minority that have quite a say in the runnings of the state.

So to be anti zionist today is like using gas lights and wooden stoves. Times have changed the reality on the ground...

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 02:42 PM grandbear Says:

Is this what we need today WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST ISRAEL?some misguided souls want to give ammunition to the haters of jews Let them all move back to hungary and romania where the will be loved .The holy reb yolish
( who was saved by kastner on that train to switzerland )said israel wouldn't last 50 years , see how he was right

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 06:23 PM SRRLD Says:

Increase division and hate among Jews while feeding into the hands of those who wish to kill us.

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 10:22 PM Brach Says:

Iam embarrassed to be from a satmer family. Both of these pretend Rabbis of ours are really nothing but a bunch of money grabbers surrounded by greedy people who continue to ignite the fire of hate. When will us Jews learn to stand together or at least not bash one another.

Hitler would be so proud Reb Ahron.

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 10:30 PM Normandavid1 Says:

Reply to #3  
kehati Says:

Satmar and its followers have become museum relics. Today, most Jewish children are born in EY/Israel, and almost half of all Jews live there. What may or may not have been true 100 or 80 years ago is totally irrelevant today. Herzel has been dead for 114 years and Ben Gurion has been dead for 45 years. The fact that Satmar is still fighting these battles, while the rest of the religious Jewish world has moved on, makes Satmar look stupid, at best, or, at worst, merely pathetic.

The Zionist movement and philosophy still going on no matter how long these terrible people are dead!

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 11:20 PM Liepa Says:

To be a grand rabbi requires far more than arranging protests and demonstrations against the Jewish State of Israel. If Teitlebaum has problems with Israel as a state or with Zionism, bringing it out in to the gentile public is certainly NOT the way to go.

In the Jewish world Tetlebaum, you're pretty irrlevant, this event will certainly earn you maintaining that status of irrlevancy !!!

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 Jun 02, 2018 at 11:57 PM kehati Says:

Reply to #11  
Aron1 Says:

Thems a whole lot of museum relics, dontcha think?
There are more Satmar chasidim today than ever before. One of the reasons for that is their refusal to capitulate. They are, on a whole, steadfast in their beliefs. Whether you agree with those beliefs or not is not their concern. Their beliefs are real, not chosen for posterity. They are not fickle, like some of their brethren.
If you think they're "stupid" or "pathetic", well that's more of a commentary on you than of them.

Not surprisingly, since I wrote my comment in plain English, you as a Satmar or fellow traveler did not understand it. After all, to you English is a foreign language Specificallly, I did nor say that there are only a few Satmar Chasidim, nor did I speak about any growth in Satmar. I did say that most religious Jews do not subscribe to the Satmar approach to Israel, and as a result it increasingly belongs in a museum. There may be 10s of thousand at the rally, but the number of religious Jews who support and live in Israel is numbered in ( at least) the high hundreds of thousands.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:01 AM Brach Says:

Iam embarrassed to be from a satmer family. Both of these pretend Rabbis of ours are really nothing but a bunch of money grabbers surrounded by greedy people who continue to ignite the fire of hate. When will us Jews learn to stand together or at least not bash one another.

Hitler would be so proud Reb Ahron.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:02 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
grandbear Says:

Is this what we need today WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST ISRAEL?some misguided souls want to give ammunition to the haters of jews Let them all move back to hungary and romania where the will be loved .The holy reb yolish
( who was saved by kastner on that train to switzerland )said israel wouldn't last 50 years , see how he was right

Reb Yoilish was NOT saved by Kastner. Read history. Its totally inaccurate and what does t hafta do with this event? Satmar people need to pay homeage to zionism cause they claim tHat kastner saved the holy Rebbe. THEY DIDNT AND IF THEY DID THIS WLDVE BEEN ONE GOOD DEED THEY EVER DID but again, THEY DID NOT but and we still hafta declare to the world that ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM!

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:24 AM Moose Says:

This question is directed to all pro satmer.
Why is it important to you to influence goyim.
It is easy to see how you diminish kovod Hashem- I put to you to explain how you are expanding kovod shomayim.
And also answer why it is important to get goyim involved in an internal jewish issue?
Or maybe you don’t care if u make a chillul Hashem as long as it expands you’re agenda.
I’d love to hear a response without name calling and insults.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:30 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #7  
yamsar Says:

Your post is disingenuous. The article itself states that the last time a protest of this magnitude was organized in 1978 by satmar under R’ Yoel.

And your point . yes the reba zy'a made a protest in 78. But what was it for and what context? Lets not start saying its for the innocent 60 muslim yimach shimo's lives.

You comment has no intllect. Just abi to dispute anything i say almost to the point of annyoance

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 01:49 AM Aron1 Says:

People who are really comfortable and truly confident in their position usually have no problems with other people expressing a different position.
If you're having a problem with someone else's opinion, perhaps start by examining your own.
Let's remember that this is taking place in the United States. Freedom of expression still exists, even with the current occupant of the White House.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 04:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
lazy-boy Says:

Over a hundred years ago, the rabbis were very much anti Zionism and for a good reason; the zionists at that time used to encourage chillul shabbos and not to do other mitzvos.

Today, there is really NO Zionism or zionists, we have the State of Israel and b"h the religious people here are a growing and thriving minority that have quite a say in the runnings of the state.

So to be anti zionist today is like using gas lights and wooden stoves. Times have changed the reality on the ground...

So u dug ur grave and fell into it and ranting. THE ZIONISTS TODAY ARE THE SAME AS THEN. BIBI IS A CUT COPY PASTE FROM HIS MENTOR HERZL YM'SH. Are you for real? They USED to encourage chilul shabos and not to observe other mitzvahs? I hope your in good company while throwing sand in your face and saying its snowing. Theyre the same as their mentors. Apikorsim wanting to exterminate the Torah and all its mitzvahs. Its amazing to find people that are so complacent as you are.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 05:31 AM triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Yamsar is your boss Soros paying for this after all he like satmar CLAIM to be Hungarian?

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 03:20 AM Normandavid1 Says:

Reply to #14  
Money That Can Be Better Spent Says:

Imagine how much good can be done with the money spent to organize this!

How about the money been spent on the Israeli day parade? What a waste of money!

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 03:41 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
Liepa Says:

To be a grand rabbi requires far more than arranging protests and demonstrations against the Jewish State of Israel. If Teitlebaum has problems with Israel as a state or with Zionism, bringing it out in to the gentile public is certainly NOT the way to go.

In the Jewish world Tetlebaum, you're pretty irrlevant, this event will certainly earn you maintaining that status of irrlevancy !!!

First of all, he is not afraid, nor cares about public opinion, esp.yours. They are not fickle and bend to your rhetoric. Those who believe in Torah, don't change for the times or for people..
Secondly, this event is in this arena not as a public event...but because there were too many ppl registered to go and needed a bigger venue. This event is being held for satmar chasidim and not for anyone else really. ..to strengthen the youth on the principles of what Satmar Rebbe's seforim were about and for those who are interested in Torah truth. Interesting how comments appear about a Goan a Tzaddik ztl..a giant in the world, yes the world. You are playing with fire. The least anyone can do is read his sefer and get educated, but you are all smarter than a man who was a walking sefer torah, pure as snow...you may not believe or accept anything, but at least some humility...compared to this Giant...and judgements without the facts. How amazing YOU jews are..you, who think you are wiser.When you finish reading, you may walk away abit enlightened, but then again, I don't expect anyone of you to challenge yourself to that.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:29 AM Israeli Says:

I don't know why they are here. Throw them all out, they are a drain on our resources (yes, they DO take.... you think their wives PAY for giving birth? They get electricity & water & gas & if they get robbed they want the Nazi Police to get their stuff back)

Leeches of the worst kind. All they contribute is filth, hovels & hate. Ship 'em all off to Williamsburg & KJ.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:38 AM common-sense Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Chilul Hashem is that the Zionist regime say they represent ALL Jews. Thats a chilul hashem!

A chilul hashem is when, at a time that rockets are being fired on Jews, this demonstration is taking place. R'Yoelish, zt"l is turning over in his grave. He was careful to make sure that demonstrations against Israel would not take place when it could be taken advantage of by enemies of the Jews. And he made sure that there would not be a demonstration when Jews were being attacked by Arabs. In
other words, he would not have agreed to a demonstration at this time. In fact, he canceled rallies or demonstrations that had been scheduled when, at the time they came up, Jews were being attacked. Those who are involved in this rally have no idea what the REAL Satmar Rebbe, R' Yoelish, was all about. They are a bunch of fools who are doing something that the REAL Rebbe would have considered a chilul hashem.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:48 AM common-sense Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

So u dug ur grave and fell into it and ranting. THE ZIONISTS TODAY ARE THE SAME AS THEN. BIBI IS A CUT COPY PASTE FROM HIS MENTOR HERZL YM'SH. Are you for real? They USED to encourage chilul shabos and not to observe other mitzvahs? I hope your in good company while throwing sand in your face and saying its snowing. Theyre the same as their mentors. Apikorsim wanting to exterminate the Torah and all its mitzvahs. Its amazing to find people that are so complacent as you are.

Why are you focusing on the Zionist apikorsim. There are Apokorsim in your midst and many of your young people are going off the derech in alarming numbers. Why are you not having rallies to prevent this?

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 10:31 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
Moose Says:

This question is directed to all pro satmer.
Why is it important to you to influence goyim.
It is easy to see how you diminish kovod Hashem- I put to you to explain how you are expanding kovod shomayim.
And also answer why it is important to get goyim involved in an internal jewish issue?
Or maybe you don’t care if u make a chillul Hashem as long as it expands you’re agenda.
I’d love to hear a response without name calling and insults.

Goyim have nothing to do with this. Its a kines for his chassidim. Tbey had to take a big venue because they didnt have place elsewhere. People registered to come. This not a PUBLIC event...thats your mistake. They would have held it in Kiryas Yoel if they had place, they didnt.And if they would, youd still be critical. People against the Rebbes shita will always find something to criticize.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 10:32 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #27  
Educated Archy Says:

And your point . yes the reba zy'a made a protest in 78. But what was it for and what context? Lets not start saying its for the innocent 60 muslim yimach shimo's lives.

You comment has no intllect. Just abi to dispute anything i say almost to the point of annyoance

Learn to spell

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 10:42 AM Anonymous Says:

What all you ignorant people dont understand is the Rebbes shita at all. He cried bigger tears than you for every soldier that fell...he loved every jew MORE than you can ever love yourself. You just rant and rave about satmar, but you dont KNOW what their fight us about. The Rebbe believed that every life was so precious that nothing was worth the loss of a SINGLE LIFE. DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW HE CRIED ABOUT THAT? na...most of you do not understand what the shita is. You just attack, rant...the only way you can understand is if you read the sefer. Most of the things that most of you rant about are ridiculous...because it doesnt even apply to his feelings on the matter.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 10:55 AM Aron1 Says:

Reply to #33  
Israeli Says:

I don't know why they are here. Throw them all out, they are a drain on our resources (yes, they DO take.... you think their wives PAY for giving birth? They get electricity & water & gas & if they get robbed they want the Nazi Police to get their stuff back)

Leeches of the worst kind. All they contribute is filth, hovels & hate. Ship 'em all off to Williamsburg & KJ.

"Leeches of the worst kind. All they contribute is filth, hovels & hate."
Patently false.
What is true: YOU contribute hate.
Where should we ship you off to, Mr. "ISRAELI"?

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:00 AM common-sense Says:

Reply to #36  
Anonymous Says:

Goyim have nothing to do with this. Its a kines for his chassidim. Tbey had to take a big venue because they didnt have place elsewhere. People registered to come. This not a PUBLIC event...thats your mistake. They would have held it in Kiryas Yoel if they had place, they didnt.And if they would, youd still be critical. People against the Rebbes shita will always find something to criticize.

Do you think that the press won't be there and report this with great happiness. Of course they will and will be happy to report to the world that Jews stand with the Arabs against other Jews. This is the way it will be presented by the press, even if it's not true. That's why it is a chilul hashem.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:32 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
kehati Says:

Not surprisingly, since I wrote my comment in plain English, you as a Satmar or fellow traveler did not understand it. After all, to you English is a foreign language Specificallly, I did nor say that there are only a few Satmar Chasidim, nor did I speak about any growth in Satmar. I did say that most religious Jews do not subscribe to the Satmar approach to Israel, and as a result it increasingly belongs in a museum. There may be 10s of thousand at the rally, but the number of religious Jews who support and live in Israel is numbered in ( at least) the high hundreds of thousands.

Youd be surprised how many tens of thousands of Jews “living in israel” are totally unaffiliated with the State of Israel. They live there for hubdreds of years but despise its medinah and its cohorts.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:44 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Israeli Says:

I don't know why they are here. Throw them all out, they are a drain on our resources (yes, they DO take.... you think their wives PAY for giving birth? They get electricity & water & gas & if they get robbed they want the Nazi Police to get their stuff back)

Leeches of the worst kind. All they contribute is filth, hovels & hate. Ship 'em all off to Williamsburg & KJ.

Self hating mireable Jew. Woe! U dont hafta agree with them but Im seeing on social media a kidush Hashem all over. People are reaponding in kind that REAL religious Jews are anti Zionists and unaffiliated with the apikorsim running the Jewish State.
Its mind boggling how one can even be a happy that a mechall l shabos and a person that doesnt observe mitzvahs, can lead a Jewish State? Even a secent gentile doesnt get it. U see Teump with a yarmulka m eting Bibi while the “leader of the Jewish State” isnt wearing one. Dont u have questions on ur beloved Bibi? Isnt it black and white that theres something so terribly wrong? The reall question is to the religious Zionists but ur all so blinded with love for the Jewih State and hate for the Anti Zionists that have the Torah as their guide. Too bad on u. U cannot refute them. Its not the Satmar shiite. Its the Torah’s shiite. Many many NOT Satmar people from around the world know the truth. Hava feeling u have doubts too but ur hatred wont let u seek the truth.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
common-sense Says:

Why are you focusing on the Zionist apikorsim. There are Apokorsim in your midst and many of your young people are going off the derech in alarming numbers. Why are you not having rallies to prevent this?

Your??? How about OUR?? Its a calamity that befell all Jews unfortunately regardless of litvish chasidish or whatever. Dont mix apples and oranges now.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:34 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #34  
common-sense Says:

A chilul hashem is when, at a time that rockets are being fired on Jews, this demonstration is taking place. R'Yoelish, zt"l is turning over in his grave. He was careful to make sure that demonstrations against Israel would not take place when it could be taken advantage of by enemies of the Jews. And he made sure that there would not be a demonstration when Jews were being attacked by Arabs. In
other words, he would not have agreed to a demonstration at this time. In fact, he canceled rallies or demonstrations that had been scheduled when, at the time they came up, Jews were being attacked. Those who are involved in this rally have no idea what the REAL Satmar Rebbe, R' Yoelish, was all about. They are a bunch of fools who are doing something that the REAL Rebbe would have considered a chilul hashem.

Very well said. Thanks

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:54 AM yamsar Says:

Reply to #27  
Educated Archy Says:

And your point . yes the reba zy'a made a protest in 78. But what was it for and what context? Lets not start saying its for the innocent 60 muslim yimach shimo's lives.

You comment has no intllect. Just abi to dispute anything i say almost to the point of annyoance

The protest today isn’t about innocent Muslims. Don’t distort their states intent. I do t support them, but I also don’t twist their ideology, so that I can continue to believe that I can align myself with them. I am diametrically opposed to their “shita” and approach. Be intellectually honest and admit they R’ Yoel’s ideology and your’s are incomoatiable.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #34  
common-sense Says:

A chilul hashem is when, at a time that rockets are being fired on Jews, this demonstration is taking place. R'Yoelish, zt"l is turning over in his grave. He was careful to make sure that demonstrations against Israel would not take place when it could be taken advantage of by enemies of the Jews. And he made sure that there would not be a demonstration when Jews were being attacked by Arabs. In
other words, he would not have agreed to a demonstration at this time. In fact, he canceled rallies or demonstrations that had been scheduled when, at the time they came up, Jews were being attacked. Those who are involved in this rally have no idea what the REAL Satmar Rebbe, R' Yoelish, was all about. They are a bunch of fools who are doing something that the REAL Rebbe would have considered a chilul hashem.

Unfortunately since the sad day of the medinahs inception jews are being attacked. Sometimes more than others. It became a fact of life in israel. One hasnt got to do with the other. Its an unfortunate matzev all the time. We pray dor our brethren in EY.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:49 PM yosher Says:

Reply to #5  
Educated Archy Says:

It's important to distinguish between anti Zionism and pro Muslims . That's a key difference between satmar and netura karta. The Reba zya believed we need to denounce the medina while not supporting Muslims either . Internally we denounce the evils of Zionism among us . Externally , for the goyim we only denounce zionsits when they cheper frum values and only re frum values . For example digging up graves that are sacred to us or army drafts . In those instances we protest at the embassy . But we never out right show any support for Hamas or Abbas . When it comes to security outwardly we still support the tzionim vs Abbas . And we support politicians who support zionists vs arabs . ( That doesn't mean that " on the inside " we don't criticize israels actions as he did in the six day war calling the victory "masa satan")

Kepoint it's sticky and nuisanced . When kanoim distort the Reba zya shita to mean support Hamas they are wrong and distorting the truth aka fake news

No it's not if your going to the Goyim to complain: as in Nassau Coliseum. Ha- Moser ain lo chelek le-olam ha-ba. Ther's a Chelkas Harrabonim in Gehinom as well.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Anonymous Says:

As long as our holy Torah “is around” then we have to keep on fighting the Zionist regime. We are a small voice in a large Zionistic Propaganda but nevertheless thousands of Anti Zionist Jews are here to say “Judaism is not Zionism”. Bless them all!

Shmiras hamitzvos and Talmud Torah is at a 2,000 year highin Israel as are STD's in Williamsburg.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 01:03 PM yosher Says:

Reply to #36  
Anonymous Says:

Goyim have nothing to do with this. Its a kines for his chassidim. Tbey had to take a big venue because they didnt have place elsewhere. People registered to come. This not a PUBLIC event...thats your mistake. They would have held it in Kiryas Yoel if they had place, they didnt.And if they would, youd still be critical. People against the Rebbes shita will always find something to criticize.

As do the Wiiliamsburg Satmar. Even the two satmar groups can't join in this, their Egel Ha-zahav. Are Satmar Jews or goyish decendants of the Madjar masquerading as Jews?

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:27 PM PureSatmar Says:

Reply to #20  
Brach Says:

Iam embarrassed to be from a satmer family. Both of these pretend Rabbis of ours are really nothing but a bunch of money grabbers surrounded by greedy people who continue to ignite the fire of hate. When will us Jews learn to stand together or at least not bash one another.

Hitler would be so proud Reb Ahron.

You are just another self hating Jew

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 12:52 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #30  
triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Yamsar is your boss Soros paying for this after all he like satmar CLAIM to be Hungarian?

It’s hilarious to see how the voices in your head genuinely convinced you of a Soros conspiracy. Meds my friend.. meds..

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 02:24 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #46  
Anonymous Says:

Unfortunately since the sad day of the medinahs inception jews are being attacked. Sometimes more than others. It became a fact of life in israel. One hasnt got to do with the other. Its an unfortunate matzev all the time. We pray dor our brethren in EY.

Guess what. Jews were attacked before the Medina. Do you know anything about the Holocaust.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 02:57 PM common-sense Says:

I keep seeing comments about the Satmar Rebbe's Sheeta. This is not the point. Every frum Jew must respect the Sheeta of the Rebbe, even if he doesn't agree with it (other Gedolim have a different Sheeta and those must also be respected.) If you are Satmar, it is your obligation to follow your Rebbe's sheeta. The problem is that some people want to follow that part of his Sheeta which you agree with, but ignore any other part. The Rebbe's sheeta as far as rallies and demonstrations against the Medina or Zionism is that they may not take place when Jews are
being attacked. Jews are being attacked from Gaza right now. The Rebbe would never have allowed this rally to take place today. This was his Sheeta and he made it clear. Why are all of you who are so concerned with his Sheeta ignoring the fact that the rally, at this time, is AGAINST the Rebbe's sheeta.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #52  
common-sense Says:

Guess what. Jews were attacked before the Medina. Do you know anything about the Holocaust.

Yea. That the Zionists were willful participants in it. Unfortunately

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 03:10 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #45  
yamsar Says:

The protest today isn’t about innocent Muslims. Don’t distort their states intent. I do t support them, but I also don’t twist their ideology, so that I can continue to believe that I can align myself with them. I am diametrically opposed to their “shita” and approach. Be intellectually honest and admit they R’ Yoel’s ideology and your’s are incomoatiable.

Sorry not incompatbale at all

Tzionim= bad
Safety = good
Settlements and tough on mulsims = saftey.

I never accused the asifa today of being about supporting Hamas. i am simply stating that many kanoim on this site need to be careful to distinguish between the two.

Not convinced the reba would be against my ideology. Sorry.

Meanwhile lets all agree that we need to pray that the palestinains get yena machla

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 03:29 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #54  
Anonymous Says:

Yea. That the Zionists were willful participants in it. Unfortunately

What a lie. This kind of Shtus is why so many people see Satmar as a bunch of fools, at best. It's not fair to Satmar as a whole that morons like yourself speak on behalf of Satmar, but unfortunately people tend to generalize.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 05:20 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #56  
common-sense Says:

What a lie. This kind of Shtus is why so many people see Satmar as a bunch of fools, at best. It's not fair to Satmar as a whole that morons like yourself speak on behalf of Satmar, but unfortunately people tend to generalize.

That has nothing to do with Satmar. Read perfidy by Ben Hecht.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 05:56 PM kehati Says:

Reply to #25  
Anonymous Says:

Reb Yoilish was NOT saved by Kastner. Read history. Its totally inaccurate and what does t hafta do with this event? Satmar people need to pay homeage to zionism cause they claim tHat kastner saved the holy Rebbe. THEY DIDNT AND IF THEY DID THIS WLDVE BEEN ONE GOOD DEED THEY EVER DID but again, THEY DID NOT but and we still hafta declare to the world that ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM!

Absolutely correct - he was not on the Kastner train. In 1944, he traveled by Swissair ( first class) from the airport in Satu Mare, and flew straight to the international airport in Williamsburg

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 06:00 PM kehati Says:

Reply to #42  
Anonymous Says:

Self hating mireable Jew. Woe! U dont hafta agree with them but Im seeing on social media a kidush Hashem all over. People are reaponding in kind that REAL religious Jews are anti Zionists and unaffiliated with the apikorsim running the Jewish State.
Its mind boggling how one can even be a happy that a mechall l shabos and a person that doesnt observe mitzvahs, can lead a Jewish State? Even a secent gentile doesnt get it. U see Teump with a yarmulka m eting Bibi while the “leader of the Jewish State” isnt wearing one. Dont u have questions on ur beloved Bibi? Isnt it black and white that theres something so terribly wrong? The reall question is to the religious Zionists but ur all so blinded with love for the Jewih State and hate for the Anti Zionists that have the Torah as their guide. Too bad on u. U cannot refute them. Its not the Satmar shiite. Its the Torah’s shiite. Many many NOT Satmar people from around the world know the truth. Hava feeling u have doubts too but ur hatred wont let u seek the truth.

This is precisely the point - Satmar truly believes that they are the only "REAL Jews", and every other Jew is a fake Jew. Therefore, any facts opposing their belief are irrelevant because they come from Jewish Goyim

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 06:07 PM hashomer Says:

Reply to #8  
yamsar Says:

You got your facts wrong. hashomer is as a violent Zionist ideologue as they come.

Thanks Yamsar for straightening that yutz poster #1 out. But I'm not a violent ideologue Zionist. I'm only an intelligent, engaged Zionist who cannot stomach self-hating satmar alt-yidden who join our enemies, even after the Churban. -HaShomer

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 06:23 PM hashomer Says:

Start with comment #1 and read all the comments. And you're worrying about 'apikorsum Zionists'? The theocratic self-hatred of the satmar against Israel brings punishment on all Yidden. Look at the neurosis in the comments. Did satmar help nazis hunt down and kill Zionists Jews during the Churban? Why are they helping our enemies now? ASK YOURSELF.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #40  
common-sense Says:

Do you think that the press won't be there and report this with great happiness. Of course they will and will be happy to report to the world that Jews stand with the Arabs against other Jews. This is the way it will be presented by the press, even if it's not true. That's why it is a chilul hashem.

Do you complain when the press misrepresents the Israelis in the news every day? Do you call them out? No one called the press and no one cares what they say. I dont get my knowledge from the press. If I want to learn about issues..I study them.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #42  
Anonymous Says:

Self hating mireable Jew. Woe! U dont hafta agree with them but Im seeing on social media a kidush Hashem all over. People are reaponding in kind that REAL religious Jews are anti Zionists and unaffiliated with the apikorsim running the Jewish State.
Its mind boggling how one can even be a happy that a mechall l shabos and a person that doesnt observe mitzvahs, can lead a Jewish State? Even a secent gentile doesnt get it. U see Teump with a yarmulka m eting Bibi while the “leader of the Jewish State” isnt wearing one. Dont u have questions on ur beloved Bibi? Isnt it black and white that theres something so terribly wrong? The reall question is to the religious Zionists but ur all so blinded with love for the Jewih State and hate for the Anti Zionists that have the Torah as their guide. Too bad on u. U cannot refute them. Its not the Satmar shiite. Its the Torah’s shiite. Many many NOT Satmar people from around the world know the truth. Hava feeling u have doubts too but ur hatred wont let u seek the truth.

Youre right with what you said, but in the shita, it would not matter if a frum jew were at the helm. The same would apply. Its not the frumkeit of the leader that the shita is about.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #45  
yamsar Says:

The protest today isn’t about innocent Muslims. Don’t distort their states intent. I do t support them, but I also don’t twist their ideology, so that I can continue to believe that I can align myself with them. I am diametrically opposed to their “shita” and approach. Be intellectually honest and admit they R’ Yoel’s ideology and your’s are incomoatiable.

The shita is NOT NOT pro palestine but anti zionist. You need to understand theres a major difference. Satmar Rebbe loved every jew...cried for every fallen soldier...do you even know how big is heart was...you have to learn his sefer. Most of you here havent a clue what he writes about.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #48  
Anonymous Says:

Shmiras hamitzvos and Talmud Torah is at a 2,000 year highin Israel as are STD's in Williamsburg.

Wow...really? you hater...do you work for the lab? Or is it..." what you accuse others of is reflective of your own weaknesses...huh?

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #60  
hashomer Says:

Thanks Yamsar for straightening that yutz poster #1 out. But I'm not a violent ideologue Zionist. I'm only an intelligent, engaged Zionist who cannot stomach self-hating satmar alt-yidden who join our enemies, even after the Churban. -HaShomer

Yo9ur ignorant. They dont join the enemy. AT ALL ...go get the sefer and read and educate yourself smart aleck!

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #53  
common-sense Says:

I keep seeing comments about the Satmar Rebbe's Sheeta. This is not the point. Every frum Jew must respect the Sheeta of the Rebbe, even if he doesn't agree with it (other Gedolim have a different Sheeta and those must also be respected.) If you are Satmar, it is your obligation to follow your Rebbe's sheeta. The problem is that some people want to follow that part of his Sheeta which you agree with, but ignore any other part. The Rebbe's sheeta as far as rallies and demonstrations against the Medina or Zionism is that they may not take place when Jews are
being attacked. Jews are being attacked from Gaza right now. The Rebbe would never have allowed this rally to take place today. This was his Sheeta and he made it clear. Why are all of you who are so concerned with his Sheeta ignoring the fact that the rally, at this time, is AGAINST the Rebbe's sheeta.

Can you bring chapter and verse please.

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 Jun 03, 2018 at 09:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Normandavid1 Says:

How about the money been spent on the Israeli day parade? What a waste of money!

The Israel Day Parade is a positive event helping support all residents of Eretz Yisroel.
The other event is a negative event, hurting Klal Yisroel.
I understand being anti Zionist, but keep it out of the public eye. It causes a chillul Hashem, and potentially jeopardizes Yiddishe lives.
Instead of knocking Zionism, help bring back the Yidden that need to be brought back. This can only be done with Ahavah!

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