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New York - A Black, Orthodox Rabbi’s Novel Addresses Racism In The Jewish Community

Published on: October 10, 2018 09:00 PM
By: JTA
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Shais Rishon’s latest book, “Ariel Samson: Freelance Rabbi,” tells the story of a 20-something black spiritual leader. (Courtesy of Rishon)Shais Rishon’s latest book, “Ariel Samson: Freelance Rabbi,” tells the story of a 20-something black spiritual leader. (Courtesy of Rishon)

New York - When Shais Rishon thinks of American Jewish literature, virtually no Jews of color come to mind — as characters or authors.

“We’re invisible, pretty much,” he told JTA.

As an African-American Orthodox rabbi, Rishon hopes to change that.

He recently published a semi-autobiographical novel titled “Ariel Samson: Freelance Rabbi,” under his pen name, MaNishtana. The main character, Ariel, is a 20-something black rabbi navigating life and work in the New York Jewish community while attempting to reconcile his identities.

Rishon, 36, says many of the racist experiences Ariel faces within the Jewish community are either based on his own life or stories told to him by other Jews of color. One episode, in which Ariel confronts an Orthodox New York assemblyman over wearing a blackface costume on Purim, is a “verbatim” recollection of a conversation that Rishon had with a real local politician who did that.

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(Rishon did not reveal the politician’s true identity in his interview with JTA, but based on the description, the book is almost certainly referring to Dov Hikind, who was widely criticized for wearing a blackface costume in 2013 and whom Rishon addressed in an open letter.)

Rishon grew up in Brooklyn in a black-Jewish family affiliated with the Chabad-Lubavitch moment, though today he identifies simply as Orthodox. His mothers’ ancestors have been practicing Judaism since the 1780s, he says.

The author and educator, who has written about racism in the Jewish community for years for publications like the Forward and Tablet, hopes his book, which he self-published in September, can challenge wide-held notions about the traditional American Jewish experience.

Often, he says, works by black-Jewish authors and artists are seen as reflecting only the African-American experience and not the Jewish one.

“There’s a weird dichotomy that happens, where you can have people who are black Jewish authors, but they are never considered part of Jewish American literature,” Rishon said. “James McBride is considered an African-American author, not a Jewish author. Daveed Diggs, when he talks about his experiences, [people say,] ‘Oh, this is an African-American experience.’”

The book also shows the questioning that many Jews of color continually face about their backgrounds. In the novel, a man at a Shabbat dinner asks Ariel intrusive questions, including if he is a convert and Ethiopian.

Rishon hopes to show why such lines of questioning are hurtful.

“When you see somebody with one arm, do you ask them ‘Hey, what’s up with your arm?’” he wonders. “It’s just the basic courtesy of getting to know someone.”

Rishon says he has received threatening and angry messages in response to his writing about racism in the Jewish community. He uses a pseudonym in order to shield his family and friends from the backlash. The name is a reference to the Ma Nishtana reading sung on Passover asking why the seder dinner differs from a regular meal.

“Instead of ‘What makes this night so different from other nights?’ it’s ‘What makes this Jew so different from other Jews?’” he explains.

Outside of his writing, Rishon works full time as a content manager for Bend the Arc, a progressive Jewish social justice organization. Rishon also serves as the rabbi for an Orthodox prayer group in New City, a town an hour from Manhattan where he lives with his wife and 5-year-old daughter. He is pursuing a second rabbinic ordination; he was previously ordained privately.

In recent years, Jewish organizations have increasingly focused on embracing and highlighting diversity within their own communities, but Rishon says plenty remains to be done.

“I would say it’s just now starting to move in baby steps away from tokenization,” he says.

Rishon sees his novel as one step in that direction.

“I’m so excited to write this, so there is no confusion,” he says. “I’m an African-American author, yes, and a Jewish-American author, yes — both. To put the Jew of color entry into Jewish American fiction.”



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 Oct 10, 2018 at 09:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Well he certainly seems to be a chochom fun mahnishtannah. What an “original” pen name.

I wonder if he really is Orthodox. It says he works for Bend The Arc which is a radical left wing organization funded by the horrid George Soros.

It radically anti religious. And this I wonder if he is really Orthodox or so called “Progressive” Orthodox. Which would make more sense as he is featured as Orthodox on VIN.

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 Oct 10, 2018 at 09:39 PM Anonymous Says:

I hate to say it, but to a certain degree, he happens to be right. But then again, in our dor, we are not embracing geirim the way we should, whether black or white.

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 Oct 10, 2018 at 11:52 PM lazy-boy Says:

If the Forward and Tablet are his sources of publication, it means he is anti Orthodox. The Forward and Tablet and liberal outlets that have no love for religious observance or orthodox....

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:02 AM MyThreeCents Says:

I try to be open minded and chas vesholom not biased but regarding Jews of color, I accept them but, would be very careful to check their yichus in case of marriage. I would check anyone's yichus nowadays if they are baalei teshuva. There are so many problems that can happen if someone's yichus is suspect, no matter what color they are.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 04:10 AM Cricket Says:

This is a relevant point for our community to ponder and improve. Listen to the message and ignore who the messenger is in this instance.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 05:08 AM triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Does he also confront known racist and anti semites and "religous" fugures" like farrakhan, Sharpton and Jackson and Wright?

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 05:30 AM Shlomo-1 Says:

Sad that some of the previous comments simply attacked Shais Rishon and deflected rather than deal with the real issue.

Is there racism in the Jewish community? Well, since it was published in the Forward and Tablet, therefore it's anti-Orthodox. Wait...what?

Are Gerim that are Black treated poorly by the Orthodox Jewish Community?
Well, since he's progressive politically, he's probably not Orthodox. Umm..what does that have to do with the question?

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 05:54 AM Secular Says:

I know the man .

He is Hareidi Orthodox.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 07:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Our Torah states ארור כנען . And our seforim speak derogatory of kushim. That's just the facts of the world unfortunately. And it started from כנען sin in this weeks parsha .

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:26 AM favish Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

I hate to say it, but to a certain degree, he happens to be right. But then again, in our dor, we are not embracing geirim the way we should, whether black or white.

WHO IS THE WE ..YOU? ..dont include us. LISTEN MR hippocrate...would you marry this GER, no .And not out of hate, looking down on him. just like you woundnt just marry someone not suited for you ,your status back ground etc etc . Love the Ger does not mean i have to marry him...plenty cases ger did marry regular..WE ,not you, do embrace a GER like we should

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:41 AM stamnamefortrump Says:

Black people can't be Jewish I thought

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 09:01 AM shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:02 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Does he also confront known racist and anti semites and "religous" fugures" like farrakhan, Sharpton and Jackson and Wright?

Read # 11 I agree with him. He has a Jewish Name unlike educated,George and you

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 09:58 AM The Professor Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

Our Torah states ארור כנען . And our seforim speak derogatory of kushim. That's just the facts of the world unfortunately. And it started from כנען sin in this weeks parsha .

How dare you twist the Torah? Some meforshim suggest that the wife of Moshe Rabbeinu was black. The possuk you quote dealt with Semites, not Blacks. I know him and his parents personally. They are observant Jews. Rabbi Shais' wife covers her hair. Contrary to what you seem to have embedded in your ill-educated brain, Moshe Rabbeinu was not a heimishe Yid who wore a shtreimel and ate gribenes and chopped liver on Shabbos. You owe the man and his family an apology.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:04 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
favish Says:

WHO IS THE WE ..YOU? ..dont include us. LISTEN MR hippocrate...would you marry this GER, no .And not out of hate, looking down on him. just like you woundnt just marry someone not suited for you ,your status back ground etc etc . Love the Ger does not mean i have to marry him...plenty cases ger did marry regular..WE ,not you, do embrace a GER like we should

Moshe Rabenu did. Its unfortunate that the only Jewish pro-Trump poster think he is better than Moshe Rabenu

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:07 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
lazy-boy Says:

If the Forward and Tablet are his sources of publication, it means he is anti Orthodox. The Forward and Tablet and liberal outlets that have no love for religious observance or orthodox....

lazy-boy, George,educated,TriumpphWH are anti orthodx. They all use Goyish Names. Chazal clearly forbids to use Goyish names.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:10 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #11  
shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

SOME ultra orthodox and SOME hassiddim.

Don't stereotype to prove you are not bigoted.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Reply to #11  
shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

aren't you generalizing so therefore YOU are a racist and anti-Semite since YOU are making general assumptions about how people think based on how they look? And if you say this is based on experience, well then many of us have experiences with young black men as well.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:39 AM shimonyehuda Says:

Reply to #16  
qazxc Says:

SOME ultra orthodox and SOME hassiddim.

Don't stereotype to prove you are not bigoted.

do you think I don't speak from experience? I have been 'Frum" all my life, I have lived in the community as well, I know what I say and mean it.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
qazxc Says:

SOME ultra orthodox and SOME hassiddim.

Don't stereotype to prove you are not bigoted.

to #16 and # 17. Number 11 Shimonyehuda is a Jewish person its not bigoted at all. GAXCZ,TriumpWH are not Jewish Names Look at # 15. A Yid disagree with onother yid is Kajdes. Elu woelu Divrei... A Goy'antisemite criticizing a yid is still a Goy/antisemite

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM favish Says:

Reply to #4  
Cricket Says:

This is a relevant point for our community to ponder and improve. Listen to the message and ignore who the messenger is in this instance.

your community not OURS.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

Yashe Skajach. Its nothing wrong for a yid criticism to help other yiden behave better. When a yid says Musar its to help the other yid. Kol Yisroel arevim ze bozeh. We are all connected. Unfortunately when a goy attacks a Yid he/she doesn't have the best interest in his mind. Its pure antisemitism. Just watch the name of the posters if they are a yid or not.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 10:58 AM favish Says:

Reply to #11  
shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

I have no problem with that. by you and your kind the biggest sin is racism (whats the that?) but toaivah , mixd seating trans, lesbian and the rest of the harbe aveiros is no problem
tell us, you left, braindead...why is Racism the worst sin? its not right OK but what the behulah.WE DO NOT SEE ANY OF YOU ASSIMILATED SKHCOTZIM EMPHASIZE THE REAL TERRIBAL SINS ,not only that , you support it...BIG DEAL .RACISM, RACISM.
WErespect any human being and will not act out against..but if we hold a certain people with certain mind sets your going to take away our freedom of THOUGHT??
ITS INTERESTING, ALL THE POSTERS WHO ARE so kanoai for racism, anti trump, etc are the ones who mock our holy torah...eg: separate seating , kapores, metzitze bpeh erc ..coincidence NO because leftists means samech mem , kat semol...so it goes hand in hand ..eg pauline, phinea, anon-1, etc.
so whenever we want to see if we are right in certain position all we have to do is to check if we are opposite of those kat semol, lefties

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 11:00 AM favish Says:

Reply to #13  
The Professor Says:

How dare you twist the Torah? Some meforshim suggest that the wife of Moshe Rabbeinu was black. The possuk you quote dealt with Semites, not Blacks. I know him and his parents personally. They are observant Jews. Rabbi Shais' wife covers her hair. Contrary to what you seem to have embedded in your ill-educated brain, Moshe Rabbeinu was not a heimishe Yid who wore a shtreimel and ate gribenes and chopped liver on Shabbos. You owe the man and his family an apology.

also moshe rabbeinu was not a heretic like you that mocks the harbe aveiros HOW DARE YOU??!! (we can also write exclamation points !!)

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 11:02 AM favish Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Moshe Rabenu did. Its unfortunate that the only Jewish pro-Trump poster think he is better than Moshe Rabenu

trump is more chassiday imos huoilom then you are a shomer torah

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 11:05 AM chaimtche Says:

Reply to #17  
triumphinwhitehouse Says:

aren't you generalizing so therefore YOU are a racist and anti-Semite since YOU are making general assumptions about how people think based on how they look? And if you say this is based on experience, well then many of us have experiences with young black men as well.

who cares waht this guy thinks of shomrei torah .'gedoleh sinas am huretz l'talmud chochom yoser misinas ackum leyisroe'l. you have see these assimilated jew hating jew in all thier posts 'al tane kesil keuvalto'

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 11:06 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
The Professor Says:

How dare you twist the Torah? Some meforshim suggest that the wife of Moshe Rabbeinu was black. The possuk you quote dealt with Semites, not Blacks. I know him and his parents personally. They are observant Jews. Rabbi Shais' wife covers her hair. Contrary to what you seem to have embedded in your ill-educated brain, Moshe Rabbeinu was not a heimishe Yid who wore a shtreimel and ate gribenes and chopped liver on Shabbos. You owe the man and his family an apology.

not 'some '. only one WHEN it good for you you go according to a yochid, always

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 11:27 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
The Professor Says:

How dare you twist the Torah? Some meforshim suggest that the wife of Moshe Rabbeinu was black. The possuk you quote dealt with Semites, not Blacks. I know him and his parents personally. They are observant Jews. Rabbi Shais' wife covers her hair. Contrary to what you seem to have embedded in your ill-educated brain, Moshe Rabbeinu was not a heimishe Yid who wore a shtreimel and ate gribenes and chopped liver on Shabbos. You owe the man and his family an apology.

The man could come from a great family and despite his progressivism be the most heilg orthodox jew around. Facts are he is still from a cursed people. And yes the torah was referring to blacks. Every cheder yingel knows that. Chum's son kanan was black.

Calling us racists doesn't offend us. jews are racists because we are better than the rest. We are the chosen nation. yes no shame in looking down at other sects. Yes we have to love all gerim but nowhere does it say w ecan't frown upon those from lower cast societies. if you guys don't like our racism feel free to choose another religion.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 12:17 PM Anonymous Says:

The issue is not his color. The issue is that he associates with Bend the Arc. Which is anti anything Torah related and is funded by George Soros who self admittedly took Jewish peoples possessions for himself during the war.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 12:47 PM favish Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

The man could come from a great family and despite his progressivism be the most heilg orthodox jew around. Facts are he is still from a cursed people. And yes the torah was referring to blacks. Every cheder yingel knows that. Chum's son kanan was black.

Calling us racists doesn't offend us. jews are racists because we are better than the rest. We are the chosen nation. yes no shame in looking down at other sects. Yes we have to love all gerim but nowhere does it say w ecan't frown upon those from lower cast societies. if you guys don't like our racism feel free to choose another religion.

THEY ALREADY CHOSE...from thier postings you can see they are non-believers..all fancy titles wot help

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 01:12 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

The man could come from a great family and despite his progressivism be the most heilg orthodox jew around. Facts are he is still from a cursed people. And yes the torah was referring to blacks. Every cheder yingel knows that. Chum's son kanan was black.

Calling us racists doesn't offend us. jews are racists because we are better than the rest. We are the chosen nation. yes no shame in looking down at other sects. Yes we have to love all gerim but nowhere does it say w ecan't frown upon those from lower cast societies. if you guys don't like our racism feel free to choose another religion.

You are way off base and you seem to be a. Intellectual midget. You know nothing about Torah and it’s hashkafos.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 01:34 PM lazy-boy Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

lazy-boy, George,educated,TriumpphWH are anti orthodx. They all use Goyish Names. Chazal clearly forbids to use Goyish names.

your are off, you can find many rabbis in the gemora with names that are Aramaic...

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 01:38 PM favish Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Moshe Rabenu did. Its unfortunate that the only Jewish pro-Trump poster think he is better than Moshe Rabenu

you ignorant.....see ohr hachaim hakodosh parshes toldos at the end on the words 'aim yakov and eisav' middle of piece

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 01:55 PM HappyOlah Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

The man could come from a great family and despite his progressivism be the most heilg orthodox jew around. Facts are he is still from a cursed people. And yes the torah was referring to blacks. Every cheder yingel knows that. Chum's son kanan was black.

Calling us racists doesn't offend us. jews are racists because we are better than the rest. We are the chosen nation. yes no shame in looking down at other sects. Yes we have to love all gerim but nowhere does it say w ecan't frown upon those from lower cast societies. if you guys don't like our racism feel free to choose another religion.

You may be Anonymous on this site, but Hakadosh Baruch Hu knows who you are. I don't envy you your onesh. How can you even do teshuva for lashon hara al haklal? What a hateful person you are.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 02:00 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
favish Says:

I have no problem with that. by you and your kind the biggest sin is racism (whats the that?) but toaivah , mixd seating trans, lesbian and the rest of the harbe aveiros is no problem
tell us, you left, braindead...why is Racism the worst sin? its not right OK but what the behulah.WE DO NOT SEE ANY OF YOU ASSIMILATED SKHCOTZIM EMPHASIZE THE REAL TERRIBAL SINS ,not only that , you support it...BIG DEAL .RACISM, RACISM.
WErespect any human being and will not act out against..but if we hold a certain people with certain mind sets your going to take away our freedom of THOUGHT??
ITS INTERESTING, ALL THE POSTERS WHO ARE so kanoai for racism, anti trump, etc are the ones who mock our holy torah...eg: separate seating , kapores, metzitze bpeh erc ..coincidence NO because leftists means samech mem , kat semol...so it goes hand in hand ..eg pauline, phinea, anon-1, etc.
so whenever we want to see if we are right in certain position all we have to do is to check if we are opposite of those kat semol, lefties

What a joke! You are conflating actual halacha d'oreisa (loving the ger) with less then a minhag, just a community standard (no mixed seating).

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 02:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
HappyOlah Says:

You may be Anonymous on this site, but Hakadosh Baruch Hu knows who you are. I don't envy you your onesh. How can you even do teshuva for lashon hara al haklal? What a hateful person you are.

Most likely #27 is a heimishe behaima with his illiterate writing.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 02:56 PM favish is a heimishe behaima Says:

Reply to #9  
favish Says:

WHO IS THE WE ..YOU? ..dont include us. LISTEN MR hippocrate...would you marry this GER, no .And not out of hate, looking down on him. just like you woundnt just marry someone not suited for you ,your status back ground etc etc . Love the Ger does not mean i have to marry him...plenty cases ger did marry regular..WE ,not you, do embrace a GER like we should

By the way you write, I can tell you had a an excellent secular education at your chassideshe yeshiva.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 02:59 PM triumphinwhitehouse Says:

Reply to #18  
shimonyehuda Says:

do you think I don't speak from experience? I have been 'Frum" all my life, I have lived in the community as well, I know what I say and mean it.

I have experience with young black men, they rob, act with no respect, curse, call each other N words.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
MyThreeCents Says:

I try to be open minded and chas vesholom not biased but regarding Jews of color, I accept them but, would be very careful to check their yichus in case of marriage. I would check anyone's yichus nowadays if they are baalei teshuva. There are so many problems that can happen if someone's yichus is suspect, no matter what color they are.

YOU yourself might be very upset and shocked if you could see clearly into YOUR own Yichus. There are thousands of Yidden who think like you, and that have some gentile blood flowing their veins. Do you think all of the thousands and thousands of Jewish women that were raped over the centuries by gentile anti-Semities didn't give birth to children??!!

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
MyThreeCents Says:

I try to be open minded and chas vesholom not biased but regarding Jews of color, I accept them but, would be very careful to check their yichus in case of marriage. I would check anyone's yichus nowadays if they are baalei teshuva. There are so many problems that can happen if someone's yichus is suspect, no matter what color they are.

Not only are many in the Heimshe Olam insensitive to converts, they are insensitive to ANYONE whom they look down upon including their own type.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
yamsar Says:

You are way off base and you seem to be a. Intellectual midget. You know nothing about Torah and it’s hashkafos.

Teach me your torah rabbi yamsar..

My torah says love all jews like myself. And yes that includes blacks. However, for non jews no such rule. So yes I can despise muslims or non jewish blacks.

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
HappyOlah Says:

You may be Anonymous on this site, but Hakadosh Baruch Hu knows who you are. I don't envy you your onesh. How can you even do teshuva for lashon hara al haklal? What a hateful person you are.

al haklal? loshon hara on goyim? Torah says kushim are cursed. its in the gemara too

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 03:51 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #22  
favish Says:

I have no problem with that. by you and your kind the biggest sin is racism (whats the that?) but toaivah , mixd seating trans, lesbian and the rest of the harbe aveiros is no problem
tell us, you left, braindead...why is Racism the worst sin? its not right OK but what the behulah.WE DO NOT SEE ANY OF YOU ASSIMILATED SKHCOTZIM EMPHASIZE THE REAL TERRIBAL SINS ,not only that , you support it...BIG DEAL .RACISM, RACISM.
WErespect any human being and will not act out against..but if we hold a certain people with certain mind sets your going to take away our freedom of THOUGHT??
ITS INTERESTING, ALL THE POSTERS WHO ARE so kanoai for racism, anti trump, etc are the ones who mock our holy torah...eg: separate seating , kapores, metzitze bpeh erc ..coincidence NO because leftists means samech mem , kat semol...so it goes hand in hand ..eg pauline, phinea, anon-1, etc.
so whenever we want to see if we are right in certain position all we have to do is to check if we are opposite of those kat semol, lefties

Are you seriously asking what is wrong with sinas chinam?

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 05:50 PM yamsar Says:

Reply to #40  
Anonymous Says:

Teach me your torah rabbi yamsar..

My torah says love all jews like myself. And yes that includes blacks. However, for non jews no such rule. So yes I can despise muslims or non jewish blacks.

Archy playing games with his screen name again..

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 07:48 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #43  
yamsar Says:

Archy playing games with his screen name again..

No games . As I told you on occasions I forget to click me screen name in the bar as it's not automated . This was one of the times . So yes that one comment was me . But here is the difference unlike tricky yoni I admit that yes it was me and I mistakenly neglected to type in my user name . I don't intentionally fool others .

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:46 PM ber Says:

Reply to #30  
yamsar Says:

You are way off base and you seem to be a. Intellectual midget. You know nothing about Torah and it’s hashkafos.

ha, yasmar who always is from the lefty anti torah posters

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:49 PM favish Says:

Reply to #33  
HappyOlah Says:

You may be Anonymous on this site, but Hakadosh Baruch Hu knows who you are. I don't envy you your onesh. How can you even do teshuva for lashon hara al haklal? What a hateful person you are.

and your support of the terrible sins is ok with hakb'u but what he says about cnan which is beferish in torah you deny,HUH?

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:52 PM favis Says:

Reply to #34  
Anonymous Says:

What a joke! You are conflating actual halacha d'oreisa (loving the ger) with less then a minhag, just a community standard (no mixed seating).

na na, its not that...your pea size brain dont understand the point....

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:55 PM favish Says:

Reply to #35  
Anonymous Says:

Most likely #27 is a heimishe behaima with his illiterate writing.

yeh yeh its me...but that still doesnt make you right. by the way which 'ba'heimishe do you belong christian, reform?

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 08:58 PM favish Says:

Reply to #36  
favish is a heimishe behaima Says:

By the way you write, I can tell you had a an excellent secular education at your chassideshe yeshiva.

in our circles after 120 they dont inscribe 'here lies a educated literate harvard graduate' no..we inscribe'here lies a ehrlicher yid that left doros yeshorim etc etc'which of course by you it would be a lie

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 09:14 PM ber Says:

Reply to #38  
Anonymous Says:

YOU yourself might be very upset and shocked if you could see clearly into YOUR own Yichus. There are thousands of Yidden who think like you, and that have some gentile blood flowing their veins. Do you think all of the thousands and thousands of Jewish women that were raped over the centuries by gentile anti-Semities didn't give birth to children??!!

your ignorance shows...after 10 generations its botel...Go learn and find out what it mens

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 09:15 PM moish Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Not only are many in the Heimshe Olam insensitive to converts, they are insensitive to ANYONE whom they look down upon including their own type.

...as in all races and creeds you including

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 Oct 11, 2018 at 09:16 PM favish Says:

Reply to #33  
HappyOlah Says:

You may be Anonymous on this site, but Hakadosh Baruch Hu knows who you are. I don't envy you your onesh. How can you even do teshuva for lashon hara al haklal? What a hateful person you are.

yes, the truth hurts...but you dont have to make it so obvious....

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 02:51 AM lev Says:

Reply to #38  
Anonymous Says:

YOU yourself might be very upset and shocked if you could see clearly into YOUR own Yichus. There are thousands of Yidden who think like you, and that have some gentile blood flowing their veins. Do you think all of the thousands and thousands of Jewish women that were raped over the centuries by gentile anti-Semities didn't give birth to children??!!

'oifen ganev brent de hitel' you must be talking what your mazel feels about your yiches

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 07:44 AM favish Says:

Reply to #36  
favish is a heimishe behaima Says:

By the way you write, I can tell you had a an excellent secular education at your chassideshe yeshiva.

bah de vey you write one ken see what is umportent to u. .bah us shomrei torah ehrliker yidden how von rites is totlly irrelebent. so dis prooves vat vee always say about u . ider u are reform , christian etc dat u so mock vat the torah says. the torah IS racist .and vats the big tink about racism?

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #50  
favish Says:

bah de vey you write one ken see what is umportent to u. .bah us shomrei torah ehrliker yidden how von rites is totlly irrelebent. so dis prooves vat vee always say about u . ider u are reform , christian etc dat u so mock vat the torah says. the torah IS racist .and vats the big tink about racism?

Di chusid shoteh vos di bist! Even though you may be right to a certain degree, you don't have to state your racist and inflammatory views in such a public forum like VIN. We have enough tzuris from the goyim as it is. Don't add more fuel to this fire. Shoteh einoi bisha.

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #48  
ber Says:

your ignorance shows...after 10 generations its botel...Go learn and find out what it mens

Maybe that's the reason why so many yidden now have blue eye, blond haired kids. Also, what about if these kids were within the 10 generations??

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 01:54 PM favish Says:

Reply to #51  
Anonymous Says:

Di chusid shoteh vos di bist! Even though you may be right to a certain degree, you don't have to state your racist and inflammatory views in such a public forum like VIN. We have enough tzuris from the goyim as it is. Don't add more fuel to this fire. Shoteh einoi bisha.

DE OINLY TSURIS VEE HAF IS FROM GOYIM LIKE U...NOW BRING IT ON ...YOUR BEAUTIFUL ADJECTIVES (HOPE YOU DONT MIND I SPELL RIGHT FOR A CHANGE EVEN THOUGH I went TO CHSSIDISHE YESHIVOS (WHICH WAS 50 YEARS AGO. We b'h have over 10 great grand children, cayn yirbu) By the way i didnt go to chassidishe yeshivos.
Not that i give a hoot what you of anybody thinks of my spelling, its that i dont have patience to check every letter etc . By me the main thing my thought gets across and like we said....see #47. We're not out to win a spelling beeeeee

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 01:55 PM ber Says:

Reply to #52  
Anonymous Says:

Maybe that's the reason why so many yidden now have blue eye, blond haired kids. Also, what about if these kids were within the 10 generations??

listen here, dont be meshadech with us

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 02:02 PM favish Says:

Reply to #51  
Anonymous Says:

Di chusid shoteh vos di bist! Even though you may be right to a certain degree, you don't have to state your racist and inflammatory views in such a public forum like VIN. We have enough tzuris from the goyim as it is. Don't add more fuel to this fire. Shoteh einoi bisha.

Wow , your nivel peh beats mine. I thought theres no such thing. By the way i'm not a chosid (children grand children etc are). Sorry, so that just leaves me a 'plain' shoite, i have no problem with that..If you have ,cant help it...Also please excuse, forgot to misspell,next posting bl'n

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 02:05 PM favish Says:

Reply to #51  
Anonymous Says:

Di chusid shoteh vos di bist! Even though you may be right to a certain degree, you don't have to state your racist and inflammatory views in such a public forum like VIN. We have enough tzuris from the goyim as it is. Don't add more fuel to this fire. Shoteh einoi bisha.

The goyim read the bible .Its the biggest best seller since Guttenheim invented the press. So they know what is written there.

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 04:35 PM favish Says:

Reply to #51  
Anonymous Says:

Di chusid shoteh vos di bist! Even though you may be right to a certain degree, you don't have to state your racist and inflammatory views in such a public forum like VIN. We have enough tzuris from the goyim as it is. Don't add more fuel to this fire. Shoteh einoi bisha.

Its not that i'm right or wrong. Its not my own personel opinion, thats torah
Bah de way, we respect every human being , greet dem, get up for them...mipnei sayvoh, ven vee used to go on train..i remember long time ago on the subway there was an elderly african amer..i was the only one(de only yid too) to get up because the torah says so b'ferishe halache, gemmorah kedushin even non yid. .if you see posting all over in you tube sites postings by chasiday goyim ...never mind, We keep door open for ANY lady when situation arises , but the torah, tznius way, we go first and lady after. Torah way? Where? By Yakov Avinu it states V'yikach Yackov BONOV v'noshov' By eisav it says ',,,,nosov V'BONOV'. Remember every vort, letter, how it arranged has meaning.by us believers that eibishter gave the torah, reform conservative etc dont belive...

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 05:02 PM favish Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

The man could come from a great family and despite his progressivism be the most heilg orthodox jew around. Facts are he is still from a cursed people. And yes the torah was referring to blacks. Every cheder yingel knows that. Chum's son kanan was black.

Calling us racists doesn't offend us. jews are racists because we are better than the rest. We are the chosen nation. yes no shame in looking down at other sects. Yes we have to love all gerim but nowhere does it say w ecan't frown upon those from lower cast societies. if you guys don't like our racism feel free to choose another religion.

You also didnt mention what rashi says on the pasuk in parshes chaye sarah 'ulai lo socvh huisha lulaches imodi' , that Eliazer had a daughter and wanted for Yizchok but..." Oy, Vey, #33 is really going to fly off handel. WHAT loshen horeh on klall # 33 is talking about we dont know

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 Oct 12, 2018 at 05:03 PM favish Says:

Reply to #11  
shimonyehuda Says:

thank you. the previous replies have proven his point, the most racist people I encounter are ultra orthodox and chassidim.

Nu, so?

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