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Published on: October 17, 2018 08:00 PM
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New York - A measles outbreak that is linked to a larger one in Jerusalem has local officials issuing warnings regarding 17 confirmed cases of the disease over the past several weeks in Monsey and Williamsburg.

The New York State Department of Health issued its first advisory on October 3rd, regarding a traveler from Israel who was later confirmed to have measles who potentially exposed people in Newark Airport, Bais Medrash of New Square, a succah located outside the Avir Yaakov Boys’ School and the New Square office of Refuah Health Center to the disease over Succos. 

A second warning issued on October 13th advised that a traveler returning from Israel was confirmed to have the measles, potentially exposing people at two Monsey area synagogues, Wesley Kosher Supermarket, Costco, Westchester Medical Center, a New City reflexologist and a Montvale gym from October 4th through October 11th.  John Lyon, director of strategic communications for Rockland County executive Ed Day, said that 11 cases, five primary and six secondary, have been confirmed as of today, with three more suspected at this time.

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“The Rockland County Department of Health continues to investigate these cases and will keep residents informed of any updates,” said Rockland County Health Commissioner Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert.  “I recommend that residents make sure that they and their families are up to date on their measles vaccinations.”

Six confirmed cases of measles were reported today by the New York City Department of Health, involving children ranging in age from eleven months to four years from Williamsburg, one of whom was hospitalized for pneumonia.  Five of those children had yet to be vaccinated because they were under a year old or had had their immunizations delayed, and one had not yet developed immunity to the measles after being inoculated.

The DOH will be holding a meeting on Thursday with community leaders and elected officials to increase awareness, with ads to be placed in local publications and posters distributed to local health care providers.

Assemblyman Steven Cymbrowitz, a member of the Assembly’s health committee, commended local officials for taking steps to contain the current outbreak.

“The safety of our children is of the utmost importance,” said Cymbrowitz.

Overseas, a Jerusalem outbreak of the measles has health officials extremely worried, with 213 cases reported in September, more than half the total number of cases reported in 2018. 

Experts expect well over 2,000 cases of the measles to be confirmed in the outbreak, with five to ten new cases being reported daily at Jerusalem hospitals, according to Haaretz (http://bit.ly/2ykV0y8).  Controlling the spread of the measles is nearly impossible said one specialist in infectious disease who spoke to Haaretz on condition of anonymity.

“The medical teams are doing Sisyphean work to try to locate everyone who may have come in contact with each patient but they can’t keep up and the disease continues to spread,” said the doctor.

The Jerusalem outbreak is believed to be linked to an abundance of children in ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods whose parents are unaware of the dangers of the measles and the importance of vaccinations.

Concentrated efforts have been made to vaccinate as many people as possible in those areas and experts also warn that anyone born between 1957 and 1977 may not have been properly vaccinated and may not be immune to the measles.

The DOH recommends that all children receive the MMR vaccine at age 12 months, with a second dose at age four to six.  With the current outbreak, doctors in some areas have been vaccinating children as young as six months old to prevent the spread of measles which is highly contagious and can cause severe complications, including death.  Symptoms of the measles include fever, a rash, cough, conjunctivitis or a runny nose and may appear seven to 21 days after initial exposure.

Individuals who are considered to be protected or immune to the measles include those born before 1957, those who have had two doses of the MMR vaccine, those who have had the measles or those who have had their immunity confirmed by laboratory testing. Anyone who is not immune to the measles is urged to contact their local health care provider as soon as possible so that they can be vaccinated.

Additional outbreaks have been reported in Asia, South America and Africa, with 41,000 cases of measles confirmed and 37 deaths reported in Europe.



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1

 Oct 17, 2018 at 08:20 PM academic discussion Says:

It’s all an academic discussion, until...
There’s an outbreak, and preventable, bad things happen, C”V, to real people/kids.
Then, I want hear the anti-vaxers gospel, about going back in time, to a worse a place.

2

 Oct 17, 2018 at 10:42 PM anonymous613 Says:

Can't wait for the next edition of Peach propaganda.

3

 Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 PM Anonymous Says:

When will people learn to vaccinate their children & themselves. Measles is dangerous & very preventable. Influenza is deadly & less than 50% of USA is vaccinated.

4

 Oct 17, 2018 at 11:40 PM IMHO Says:

If you don't get the vaccine and you're walking around with measles, you are a רודף!!

5

 Oct 18, 2018 at 12:01 AM avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

6

 Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16 AM Normal Says:

I'm glad that people who haven't learnt even the basics of science, maths and stats and get their information from anonymous blogs on the internet, know much better than thousands of scientists, doctors, researchers, epidemiologists etc worldwide. They are not only putting themselves and their families in danger but also of hundreds or thousands of people they come close to. Absolute idiots.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 08:22 AM avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

8

 Oct 18, 2018 at 09:25 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #7  
avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

Go ahead, risk your son's health and life, that is between you, him and Gd.

Letting your son near mine is between you and me, and I consider you a rodef.

9

 Oct 18, 2018 at 09:34 AM shimon11210 Says:

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/news/20150107/long-term-study-finds-measles-vaccines-safe

This is a typical vaccine "safety study." Read the headline, read the article, and most people will come away accepting the mainstream mantra "vaccines are safe & effective." This is the real purpose of the study design.

HOWEVER, upon READING THE ACTUAL STUDY, you can see that there is nothing substantial here that relates to the true safety of vaccinating versus not doing so. The study doesn't even purport to do that. The purpose is to show comparisons in negative health outcomes for these two option of getting the Measles Mumps Rubella & Varicella inoculations. It compares a combo MMRV shot vs the separate option of MMR and another V shot. The period examined for negative health outcomes in most cases was limited to a diagnosis within a matter of weeks after the shot.

While the naive individual can be lured into thinking the study has good intentions- to evaluate 2 different vaccination methods, the astute individual realizes the strong PR value for vaccines in general when such a study is published.

They want you to apply "safety" to all vaccines!

I just chose a random study!

10

 Oct 18, 2018 at 10:16 AM georgeg Says:

In case there are 8-year-olds reading this, I will make some comments regarding such posts as #5, #7 and #9.

First, "where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era?" Aside from the famous "Black Death" (also called "Black Plague") in Europe in the 14th century, let us examine one example from the 20th century. The 1918 pandemic was nothing more than a simple flu (which is not a particularly exotic disease), Yet, to quote from stanford university website:

"The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. "

The world population was less than 2 billion, so 20 million deaths from a single cause like the flu in a mere 1 or 2 years is a staggering percentage. It received very little publicity because, one assumes, people were distracted by the events and news of WWI.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 10:25 AM anonymous613 Says:

Reply to #9  
shimon11210 Says:

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/news/20150107/long-term-study-finds-measles-vaccines-safe

This is a typical vaccine "safety study." Read the headline, read the article, and most people will come away accepting the mainstream mantra "vaccines are safe & effective." This is the real purpose of the study design.

HOWEVER, upon READING THE ACTUAL STUDY, you can see that there is nothing substantial here that relates to the true safety of vaccinating versus not doing so. The study doesn't even purport to do that. The purpose is to show comparisons in negative health outcomes for these two option of getting the Measles Mumps Rubella & Varicella inoculations. It compares a combo MMRV shot vs the separate option of MMR and another V shot. The period examined for negative health outcomes in most cases was limited to a diagnosis within a matter of weeks after the shot.

While the naive individual can be lured into thinking the study has good intentions- to evaluate 2 different vaccination methods, the astute individual realizes the strong PR value for vaccines in general when such a study is published.

They want you to apply "safety" to all vaccines!

I just chose a random study!

The article does exactly what it intended to do. It reported (it is a news article not the study)on a published study that showed the vaccines are safe after 12 years of surveillance. Your point is irrelevant. It was not intending to compare vaccinators vs non- vaccinators. It was showing lack of long term negative outcomes for those children vaccinated.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 10:27 AM anonymous613 Says:

Reply to #7  
avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

Another ignoramus. Having the longest post that says nothing makes you an expert in nothing. At least make points that are accurate and based on fact.

12

 Oct 18, 2018 at 11:03 AM On the Science side Says:

Who's most at risk?
Complications of measles are more likely to develop in certain groups of people.

These include:

babies younger than 1 year old
children with a poor diet
children with a weakened immune system (such as those with leukaemia)
teenagers and adults
Children who are older than 1 year and otherwise healthy have the lowest risk of developing complications.

Common complications
More common complications of measles include:

diarrhoea and vomiting, which can lead to dehydration
middle ear infection (otitis media), which can cause earache
eye infection (conjunctivitis)
inflammation of the voice box (laryngitis)
infections of the airways and lungs (such as pneumonia, bronchitis and croup)
fits caused by a fever (febrile seizures)
Uncommon complications
Less common complications of measles include:

liver infection (hepatitis)
misalignment of the eyes (squint) if the virus affects the nerves and muscles of the eye
infection of the membranes surrounding the brain and spinal cord (meningitis) or infection of the brain itself (encephalitis)
Rare complications
In rare cases, measles can lead to:

serious eye disorders, such as an infection of the optic nerve, the nerve that t

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 12:42 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

You are a complete misinformed idiot!

14

 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:16 PM Chaim Says:

Reply to #8  
qazxc Says:

Go ahead, risk your son's health and life, that is between you, him and Gd.

Letting your son near mine is between you and me, and I consider you a rodef.

Kind of interesting, isn't your son vaccinated?

Why are you worried at all? I should be the one who is worried because my son is PROUDLY not vaccinated.

It's amazing to see how the vaccinated people are worried about the unvaccinated people...

15

 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:17 PM Yuda Says:

Reply to #10  
georgeg Says:

In case there are 8-year-olds reading this, I will make some comments regarding such posts as #5, #7 and #9.

First, "where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era?" Aside from the famous "Black Death" (also called "Black Plague") in Europe in the 14th century, let us examine one example from the 20th century. The 1918 pandemic was nothing more than a simple flu (which is not a particularly exotic disease), Yet, to quote from stanford university website:

"The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. "

The world population was less than 2 billion, so 20 million deaths from a single cause like the flu in a mere 1 or 2 years is a staggering percentage. It received very little publicity because, one assumes, people were distracted by the events and news of WWI.

Did you even bother to find out if measles is deadly?
Wow we've become such puppets of the CDC.

16

 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:20 PM avigreen Says:

Reply to #11  
anonymous613 Says:

Another ignoramus. Having the longest post that says nothing makes you an expert in nothing. At least make points that are accurate and based on fact.

My post was just to get people thinking?
You educate yourself, and then decide if you want to still vaccinate

17

 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:32 PM avigreen Says:

Reply to #8  
qazxc Says:

Go ahead, risk your son's health and life, that is between you, him and Gd.

Letting your son near mine is between you and me, and I consider you a rodef.

This is such a joke....
Read Fox News, 11 confirmed cases, 5 of them unvaccinated. Now you do the math that leaves the other six vaccinated kids?

So ask yourself the question why are they not reporting it with the headline 6 vaccinated kids get measles?!?

As Jews, we are always used to the bias reports about Israel, about our health too?

Vaccinated kids, I just want you to stop and think

18

 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:43 PM The_Truth Says:

Reply to #7  
avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

Your comment is not very comprehensible or what your point is, but for the sake of intelligent discussion, I will try to respond.

#1 The anti group are usually liberals. not sure what your point is.

#2 Death is scary to most people, but especially to young children who are most vulnerable. There are only less deaths from measles due to the high vaccination rates in the US & worldwide. Pneumonia is not highly contagious like measles is.

#3 They ended with 100s of deaths, many unwell people and high level of isolation to prevent it spreading further.

#4 Chikenpox and measels are not connected, other than both being a virus. Like the flu or ebola.

#5 Nursing babies are not immune. They may build up an immunity as they grow older and from nursing. Please let me know of the results and risks of immunizations to babies. There may be some side affects, but the benefits of immunization outweigh all the side affects.

#6 Yes, but what has that to do with it here and protecting the health of your children.

#7 No I dont know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed. Please inform us.
So you agree they are generally safe, so whats the risk?

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 02:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
avigreen Says:

#1 love the liberal tactic just name the other party 'the anti-xyz' and the argument doesn't have to make sense... Oh cause you belong to the anti...

#2 Educate yourself. Do you know what meales is? What's the fear mongering OUTBREAK c'v... Is it really that scary?
And your kid is vaccinated for pneumonia and strep? Are there more deaths from measles or pneumonia?

#3 Have you ever wondered where are the deadly outbreaks from the diseases pre vaccine era? How did they end? Shouldn't we all be infected...? After all there were no vaccines....

#4 Have you heard of chickenpox parties? Interestingly the vaccinated can get it again, however who ever had chickenpox can't.
Do you know how this is connected to measles.

#5 let's leave the argument aside for a moment, do you have an idea what the Health Dep did in refuah health center this week? Pressuring mothers to inject 5 week old babies even when statically baby are immuned while nursing from their parents.
And everyone knows the results of the shots at 5 weeks old, the risks that carries.

#6 have you ever heard of concept follow the money?

#7 do you know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed?
So let's agree generally they are safe, would you risk your son?
Well, but I'll take my chances with measles rather....

(continued)
Your chances may be higher than others, but think about those whos chances of recovery are not great, like your neighbor who just had a baby, or the guy next to you in shul who has leukemia, or you can spread it to your children and the rest of their class...
Please stop thinking you know more than experts in this field, stop just thinking about yourself and try to understand the bigger picture.

20

 Oct 18, 2018 at 04:04 PM avigreen Says:

Reply to #18  
The_Truth Says:

Your comment is not very comprehensible or what your point is, but for the sake of intelligent discussion, I will try to respond.

#1 The anti group are usually liberals. not sure what your point is.

#2 Death is scary to most people, but especially to young children who are most vulnerable. There are only less deaths from measles due to the high vaccination rates in the US & worldwide. Pneumonia is not highly contagious like measles is.

#3 They ended with 100s of deaths, many unwell people and high level of isolation to prevent it spreading further.

#4 Chikenpox and measels are not connected, other than both being a virus. Like the flu or ebola.

#5 Nursing babies are not immune. They may build up an immunity as they grow older and from nursing. Please let me know of the results and risks of immunizations to babies. There may be some side affects, but the benefits of immunization outweigh all the side affects.

#6 Yes, but what has that to do with it here and protecting the health of your children.

#7 No I dont know why The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed. Please inform us.
So you agree they are generally safe, so whats the risk?

National Vaccine Information Center

The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

NVIC's co-founders worked with Congress on the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to 300aa-34). This historic law acknowledged that vaccine injuries and deaths are real and that the vaccine injured and their families should be financially supported and that vaccine safety protections were needed in the mass vaccination system. The law set up a federal vaccine injury compensation program as well as included legal requirements for vaccine providers to:

give parents vaccine benefit and risk information before their children are vaccinated;
keep written records of vaccine manufacturer names and lot numbers for each vaccination given;
enter serious health problems following vaccination into a child's permanent medical record; and
report serious health problems following vaccination to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).

Now may I ask people to start thinking....

If the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies only have our best intentions, why was this ACT even necessary to pass? Don't they anyway want to have records of the deaths and the injuries?

Why did they modify and remove certain ingredients from the vaccines? But ONLY after a PR political storm was made...

It is very easy to sit and dismiss, maybe read up a bit... then decide if you want to rather risk maybe maybe you will get measles, and maybe maybe you will be from the few that have severe symptoms, or you definitely want to take a shot that definitely comes with some symptoms, and fall into the category that it leaves severe and permanent damage...

For some reason millions of dollars for compensation has been paid out, is that a hoax too?

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 06:16 PM The_Truth Says:

Reply to #20  
avigreen Says:

National Vaccine Information Center

The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

NVIC's co-founders worked with Congress on the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to 300aa-34). This historic law acknowledged that vaccine injuries and deaths are real and that the vaccine injured and their families should be financially supported and that vaccine safety protections were needed in the mass vaccination system. The law set up a federal vaccine injury compensation program as well as included legal requirements for vaccine providers to:

give parents vaccine benefit and risk information before their children are vaccinated;
keep written records of vaccine manufacturer names and lot numbers for each vaccination given;
enter serious health problems following vaccination into a child's permanent medical record; and
report serious health problems following vaccination to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).

Now may I ask people to start thinking....

If the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies only have our best intentions, why was this ACT even necessary to pass? Don't they anyway want to have records of the deaths and the injuries?

Why did they modify and remove certain ingredients from the vaccines? But ONLY after a PR political storm was made...

It is very easy to sit and dismiss, maybe read up a bit... then decide if you want to rather risk maybe maybe you will get measles, and maybe maybe you will be from the few that have severe symptoms, or you definitely want to take a shot that definitely comes with some symptoms, and fall into the category that it leaves severe and permanent damage...

For some reason millions of dollars for compensation has been paid out, is that a hoax too?

You seem to be missing the point that millions of dollars were paid out to very few people, while millions of vaccinations have been given with no harmful affects. The safety of vaccines has also drastically increased since 1986.
The "sfaik-sfaika" of getting measles with severe symptoms can easily be applied to the vaccinations too.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 07:01 PM shimon11210 Says:

Reply to #11  
anonymous613 Says:

The article does exactly what it intended to do. It reported (it is a news article not the study)on a published study that showed the vaccines are safe after 12 years of surveillance. Your point is irrelevant. It was not intending to compare vaccinators vs non- vaccinators. It was showing lack of long term negative outcomes for those children vaccinated.

you did not read the study. I did. from the news article headline it sounds like another study has added to the tremendous body of data showing that vaccines are safe. it sounds like a study of long-term effects. it is neither, but this is the effect they are trying to achieve.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 08:02 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #14  
Chaim Says:

Kind of interesting, isn't your son vaccinated?

Why are you worried at all? I should be the one who is worried because my son is PROUDLY not vaccinated.

It's amazing to see how the vaccinated people are worried about the unvaccinated people...

There are children who for legitimate health reasons cannot be vaccinated.

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 Oct 18, 2018 at 09:57 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #14  
Chaim Says:

Kind of interesting, isn't your son vaccinated?

Why are you worried at all? I should be the one who is worried because my son is PROUDLY not vaccinated.

It's amazing to see how the vaccinated people are worried about the unvaccinated people...

You're proud to neglect your children's health.

Nice.

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 Oct 19, 2018 at 01:37 AM anonymous613 Says:

Reply to #22  
shimon11210 Says:

you did not read the study. I did. from the news article headline it sounds like another study has added to the tremendous body of data showing that vaccines are safe. it sounds like a study of long-term effects. it is neither, but this is the effect they are trying to achieve.

Shomer p'saim Hashem. You may have read the study but you clearly don't understand the study.

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM RealJew Says:

My Response To Rabbi Dr. Glatt:

With all due respect Dr. Glatt is a disgrace!

I emailed him months ago asking if he is aware of the toxins in vaccines and the incredible damage they cause including allergies for life, chronic and mental illness like autism and death! I sent him a link to information about Dr. William Thomson who worked for the CDC for over a decade blew the whistle and exposed their fraud studies that covered up the link between vaccines and autism.
I also Showed him other ​Big Phrama whistle-blowers like Brandy Vaughan, Gwen Olsen and more, who worked for Big Pharma and exposed their lies and how they fund and manipulate studies in medical school, journals and Government ministries like the CDC and FDA and AMA.
Less so for the EPA and HHS where many conflicting data is said. Like the EPA says if a vaccine vile breaks on the floor you need to clear the room, call in a Hazmat team to clean up the toxins like mercury since it's the 2nd most toxic thing for Humans after uranium, YET, the FDA and fools like Dr. Glatt think it's perfectly safe to inject those SAME toxins into your little babies. With NO studies from the HHS that they are safe as required by 1986 LAW

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM Anonymous Says:

I told him about "National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act" from 1986 and how since then you can't even sue the vaccine manufacturer for damage and death which happens from vaccines all the time, and is completely unethical and against Halacha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PiR4PkCh0

I showed him thousands of testimonies from parents of damaged and killed children from vaccines, and said If we has a REAL Sanhedrin they would be making their testimonies to them and being heard unlike the unethical Government "Vaccine Court" in America.​
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos?disable_polymer=1

His exact quote was.
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{"With all due respect, there is not one scientific published paper supporting what you wrote. Not one. Everything you sent is a person's anecdotal story or opinion."...
"It is ridiculous to say every legitimate scientist at the CDC et al are bought off and blind. Nobody would say that about any other illness."

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM RealJew Says:

"Pharmaceutical manufacturers are running away from making vaccines because there is no profit in it - we have so few willing to even make mainstream vaccines because there is little profit and much to lose via lawsuits in them."}
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First he has no clue what he's talking about, he clearly knows nothing about the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and that you can NOT sue them.
They are making MORE and MORE vaccines every year since 1986 and make Billions of Dollars off them and the drugs they sell for life for the sickness and misery they cause with all their toxins. Did your doctor ever show you this list???
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

I sent him info from a whistleblower Dr. Thomson from the CDC and he decided to make the CDC "God like" and infalible and incapable of lying without even listening to the many recorded hours of Dr. Thomson telling Dr. Brain Hooker about the Fraud and cover ups at the CDC.
Dr. Glatt supports their lies that endangers people blindly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIRXxEYnkxA

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM RealJew Says:

I sent him MANY peer review studies proving how dangerous vaccines, are he did not even read ONE!
Some here: https://avscientificsupportarsenal.wordpress.com
1,000 more studies here! https://vaccine-injury.info/pdf/vaccinepeerreview.pdf

Vaccines did NOT get rid of smallpox or polio, it's another medical propaganda lie put out by big pharma and taught to Doctors in medical schools which are FUNDED and were even created by Big Pharma to sell their drugs. Here is the truth.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/01/18/history-vaccination.aspx

Big Pharma like IGFarben and Merk and the schools set up to promote their drugs, have their roots in funding the Nazis and making the Gas to murder the Jews in the death camps, but lets trust them they CARE about people!!!
http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:23 PM RealJew Says:

I get it that not everyone will do all this research since they trust their Doctors and Rabbis like R. Dr. Glatt. But I would expect HIM to read the other side and comment on it. Like any real Bet Din would do.
Yet he proved he is bias and brainwashed by his medical school education and can not be an honest broker of the relevant information.

BTW Measles barely kills, kids used to get it all the time along with chicken pox. It make them immune for life, unlike the vaccine, and the REAL antibodies that a kid gets prevent him from getting cancer. NOT good for Big Pharma who make BILLIONS of chemo (Mustard Gas) which then kills 90% of the fools who keep coming back to pharmas death spell for more.
And Drs. Like Dr Glatt are only to happy to sell their toxins.

Rav Chaim Kanievsky and Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky as well of the Rabbanim in Lakewood Rav Kotler all said you can NOT prevent an unvaccinated child from entering school.

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 Oct 23, 2018 at 10:24 PM Anonymous Says:

And finally, when was the last time Dr. Glatt got 72 vaccines? including the MMR? Even if he got it as a kid according to the manufacture it's only good for 10 years. So unless he got all those vaccines in the last decade, HE is JUST as unvaccinated as all the kids he want to be vaccinated. HE is Just as DANGEROUS and should stay away from his grandchildren and all other people so they can't get the measles from HIM!!!
This is according to his own flaud logic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugXXqsFEJQ&t=52s

The people are waking up to the truth about the danger in vaccines and will not be brainwashed by fear tactics of Big Pharma and their Salesmen.

Jabotinsky spent years warning Jews to get out of Europe. 200,000 listened to him.
6,000,000 listened to their Rabbis and Doctors and ignored him.
They followed their blind "so smart" leaders to the Gas Chambers, with Gas made by the same companies making the vaccines TODAY.
DON'T be a fool! THINK for yourself Hashem gave you a BRAIN!!!
www.gefenpublishinginisrael.com/2012/07/29/zeev-jabotinskys-1937-tisha-baav-message-in-warsaw-poland/

https://www.learntherisk.org

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