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Published on: December 8, 2018 11:30 PM
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New York - Michelle Goldberg, a columnist for The New York Times, wrote a piece defending anti-Zionism and saying it is not anti-Semitism.

“The conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism is a bit of rhetorical sleight-of-hand that depends on treating Israel as the embodiment of the Jewish people everywhere,” she wrote Friday. “Certainly, some criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, but it’s entirely possible to oppose Jewish ethno-nationalism without being a bigot.”

The column is a big deal because while The Times opinion page is generally left wing on Israel, most of its columnists who write on the country range from liberal to conservative Zionists.

Goldberg noted that two incoming Democratic congresswoman, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, have endorsed the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement against Israel, or BDS. She wrote that many people call BDS anti-Semitic because it subjects Israel to a double standard and, in endorsing a return of Palestinian refugees to Israel, could lead to the end of a Jewish-majority state.

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Indeed, equating BDS with anti-Semitism is the consensus among a broad swath of Jewish organizations; last week, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, representing over 50 Jewish groups, called Pink Floyd front man Roger Waters “anti-Israel and anti-Jewish” for his vocal support of BDS.

But Goldberg said that opposing Israel and calling for a binational Israeli-Palestinian state is legitimate. She criticized Israel for its government’s close relationship to the Trump administration and right-wing nationalist governments in Europe, as well as for West Bank settlement expansion and the Israeli government’s opposition to Palestinian statehood.

“As long as the de facto policy of the Israeli government is that there should be only one state in historic Palestine,” Goldberg wrote, “it’s unreasonable to regard Palestinian demands for equal rights in that state as anti-Semitic.”



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 Dec 08, 2018 at 11:44 PM lazy-boy Says:

anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism however antisemites do hide behind anti-zionism to condemn Jews. Example, the Satmar rebbi is anti-zionist but not antisemitic, but the Muslims who believe blindly in the Koran (which is antisemitic - read it, like I did!) who are anti-zionists are also antisemites.

Needless to say, many who are in BDS are antisemities too....

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 Dec 08, 2018 at 11:48 PM PureSatmar Says:

Kudos!
Words of reason and common sense!

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:00 AM SHEPSEL Says:

She’s a real Machsefa. Zoll zi zan a kapora far klal Yisroel.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:09 AM ASI Says:

NYT is all the trash that's fit to print.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Typical leftist anti Israel democrat scumbag

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:54 AM Saner Says:

Let her live in Sderot until she gets hit by a Kassam

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 02:04 AM Anonymous Says:

How interesting! She gets what our Jewish brethren dont. Modern Israel of today and authentic Judaism have absolute no connection. A good Jew who believes un G d shld automatically oppose the heretical State of Israel. It was founded to spite Hashem then and it continues so every day. Heartwarming to hear our anti Zionism message coming thru.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 04:22 AM True Torah Jew Says:

Ever so slowly but the TRUE message is getting across. Its Zionism that causes anitsemitism. Its an unfortunate fact.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 05:10 AM grandbear Says:

Another self hating jew gets to have her say in that great newspaper , a paper that never fails to print what these very assimilated jews have to say.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 05:24 AM qazxc Says:

The true cost of Bibi walking around shnorring.

The only pischon peh these Jew hating BDS supporters have is the fact that America underwrites our security costs. If we supported ourselves we could tell the NYT and the US Congress 'thanks for your offer to share your opinion. We'll let you know if and when we are interested.'

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 07:29 AM PaulinSaudi Says:

Well, if I understand what may Jewish poster on this site, many of them are opposed to Zionism.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 07:52 AM Educated Archy Says:

Hey you dummy Michelle . By equating Palestinians to Jews like all columinsits at the failing nyt does you are both Anti semetic , liars and fake fake news reporters . Those filthy Muslims teaches kids in Camp that
we need to kill others . Those filthy Muslims blow up Jews during a pesach Seder then dance in the street .And no these are not s few rouge individuals . These are the masses . They have blood in their eyes .

Furthermore as proved by Arafat yimach shimo, they don't want peace . They want us dead . Ehud Barak (whom Clinton mingled to help win ) offered that rasha everything under the sun . And he was the " peaceful " camp .

It's a fair argument to say that some holy Jews hold that Jews can not have a statehood. But that doesn't equate them with filthy Palestinians ( some not all or even majority hold
this . But the reba zya was a huge gadol)

May Palestinians be smitten with yena machla ( and yamsar be spared any such pain )

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 09:17 AM yamsar Says:

Goldberg misses the point, and by doing so shows her own discomfort and self-hatred. Of course anti-Zionist sentiment and support for the BDS movement isn’t inherently anti-Semitic. It the double standard that is the problem. If you will boycott Israeli professors for Israeli policy, but not Palestinian professors for Palestinian policy then you have shown gross bias stemming no doubt from anti-Semitic viewpoints.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 09:58 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #7  
True Torah Jew Says:

Ever so slowly but the TRUE message is getting across. Its Zionism that causes anitsemitism. Its an unfortunate fact.

Right. There was no sinas yisroel before Zionism.

Maybe the BOE has a valid point.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 10:22 AM Saner Says:

Reply to #7  
True Torah Jew Says:

Ever so slowly but the TRUE message is getting across. Its Zionism that causes anitsemitism. Its an unfortunate fact.

You’ve got it backwards. It is anti Semitism that created Israel.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 10:37 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
lazy-boy Says:

anti-Zionism is not necessarily antisemitism however antisemites do hide behind anti-zionism to condemn Jews. Example, the Satmar rebbi is anti-zionist but not antisemitic, but the Muslims who believe blindly in the Koran (which is antisemitic - read it, like I did!) who are anti-zionists are also antisemites.

Needless to say, many who are in BDS are antisemities too....

Most Jews are anti-zionist. 80% pf Yiden are Liberal 10% Chassidim and they are all anti-zionist. A few Flatbush, 5 town and NJ are the only Zionists left.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 10:38 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
yamsar Says:

Goldberg misses the point, and by doing so shows her own discomfort and self-hatred. Of course anti-Zionist sentiment and support for the BDS movement isn’t inherently anti-Semitic. It the double standard that is the problem. If you will boycott Israeli professors for Israeli policy, but not Palestinian professors for Palestinian policy then you have shown gross bias stemming no doubt from anti-Semitic viewpoints.

"Palestinian professors.." Palestine is not a State. They have no policy , Israel is a STATE and have policies. Big Difference.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 10:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Educated Archy Says:

Hey you dummy Michelle . By equating Palestinians to Jews like all columinsits at the failing nyt does you are both Anti semetic , liars and fake fake news reporters . Those filthy Muslims teaches kids in Camp that
we need to kill others . Those filthy Muslims blow up Jews during a pesach Seder then dance in the street .And no these are not s few rouge individuals . These are the masses . They have blood in their eyes .

Furthermore as proved by Arafat yimach shimo, they don't want peace . They want us dead . Ehud Barak (whom Clinton mingled to help win ) offered that rasha everything under the sun . And he was the " peaceful " camp .

It's a fair argument to say that some holy Jews hold that Jews can not have a statehood. But that doesn't equate them with filthy Palestinians ( some not all or even majority hold
this . But the reba zya was a huge gadol)

May Palestinians be smitten with yena machla ( and yamsar be spared any such pain )

"Muslims blow up Jews during Pesach" only in Israel. Not a single time in the USA. You are just proving her point. Muslims are anti-Zionist and therefore blow... They are not anti Jewish and therefore they dont do it in the USA Fersteist? What is so hard to understand? 100's if not thousands of suicide and other terrorist attacks in Israel. Not a single one in the USA. (The only single mass terror in the usa was commited by a Republican MAGA Bomber.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Most Jews are anti-zionist. 80% pf Yiden are Liberal 10% Chassidim and they are all anti-zionist. A few Flatbush, 5 town and NJ are the only Zionists left.

Were talking from a Torah persepective not from a political one. There are many goyim opposing politically the State of israel. That in in of itself brings on antisemitism. Thats a whole lot of a difference. Were talking about Jews knowing that the State if israel is a Zionist State and has nothing with Judaism. Not too many but a lot of erlicha yiddn out there. This shld reduce antisemitism being that the Israelis do a fine job in riling up antisemitism daily.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:37 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

"Muslims blow up Jews during Pesach" only in Israel. Not a single time in the USA. You are just proving her point. Muslims are anti-Zionist and therefore blow... They are not anti Jewish and therefore they dont do it in the USA Fersteist? What is so hard to understand? 100's if not thousands of suicide and other terrorist attacks in Israel. Not a single one in the USA. (The only single mass terror in the usa was commited by a Republican MAGA Bomber.

Topic is BDS, not terrorism. BDS is mostly not 'Palestinians', they are mostly Jew hating Americans who turn their back on all other suffering people except so called 'Palestinians' and only complain about the way Israel treats Muslims, never what China does to Muslims.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
PaulinSaudi Says:

Well, if I understand what may Jewish poster on this site, many of them are opposed to Zionism.

Most Jews are opposed to Zionism. The liberal Jews app.75% love Israel but oppose Zionism. 90% if not more of the orthodox Jews oppose Zionism. A very small segment (modern Orthodox and some very modern Flatbush and Monsey type) oppose Zionism. Even in Israel a big % oppose zionism, The Chassidim alone are 20% most liberal in Israel are anti-zionist.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 12:51 PM elyeh Says:

Reply to #6  
Anonymous Says:

How interesting! She gets what our Jewish brethren dont. Modern Israel of today and authentic Judaism have absolute no connection. A good Jew who believes un G d shld automatically oppose the heretical State of Israel. It was founded to spite Hashem then and it continues so every day. Heartwarming to hear our anti Zionism message coming thru.

Nebech, you are supporting the killing of many Yidden - no matter what their politics is - because they live B'eretz Yisrael.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 01:30 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Most Jews are anti-zionist. 80% pf Yiden are Liberal 10% Chassidim and they are all anti-zionist. A few Flatbush, 5 town and NJ are the only Zionists left.

There you go again with your stupid naive nonsense . You think satmar controls the world . Hey dummy satmar is maybe 10% of frum Jews . And they are not even tne majority of chasdim you tipush. Skver, Lubavitch bobov belz and ger are plenty big too. Flatbush alone probably has more Jews than kj. And then Lakewood and Monserrat . You just make up lies as you go along . I will say that even aguda Jews hold the medina is bad . But they don't hold of not supporting them . They still hold that we need to back them . But you stare such stupid untrue facts . Do you live in a shell or cave ? Do you really thing klal
Yisroel is just satmar? Come on wake up

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 02:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
PureSatmar Says:

Kudos!
Words of reason and common sense!

Here we have a maven on "common sense", Where did you get common sense in
Sands Street?

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 03:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
qazxc Says:

Right. There was no sinas yisroel before Zionism.

Maybe the BOE has a valid point.

Jews were burned in spain, burned in Vienna during the gezera all before Herzl

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 04:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
Educated Archy Says:

There you go again with your stupid naive nonsense . You think satmar controls the world . Hey dummy satmar is maybe 10% of frum Jews . And they are not even tne majority of chasdim you tipush. Skver, Lubavitch bobov belz and ger are plenty big too. Flatbush alone probably has more Jews than kj. And then Lakewood and Monserrat . You just make up lies as you go along . I will say that even aguda Jews hold the medina is bad . But they don't hold of not supporting them . They still hold that we need to back them . But you stare such stupid untrue facts . Do you live in a shell or cave ? Do you really thing klal
Yisroel is just satmar? Come on wake up

"Satmar is 10 %" If that is true, they could be ij"h 90-98% very soon. They were a few families 65 years ago. Less than a small fraction of 1% of yiden. They 10 folded keyn yirbu. If its 10% (I think its closer to 15%) in no time they will be 90+%
Its not rocket science mr uneducated. If you have keyne hora 12-14 children vs 2-4 nonchassidik. Let me make this easy for the uneducated. There a charts on the internet about compound interest rates. Lets say you put aside money @ 5% vs @ 25%. Go check since if I tell you the results you will freek out.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 07:31 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

"Muslims blow up Jews during Pesach" only in Israel. Not a single time in the USA. You are just proving her point. Muslims are anti-Zionist and therefore blow... They are not anti Jewish and therefore they dont do it in the USA Fersteist? What is so hard to understand? 100's if not thousands of suicide and other terrorist attacks in Israel. Not a single one in the USA. (The only single mass terror in the usa was commited by a Republican MAGA Bomber.

Not a single time besides for 9/11. Besides for Aron halberstam . Only in Paris but can't happen in USA ? You are a dumb fool .

Let me get this thru your thick head

Any nations or group tnat kills innocent women and children not even in tne line of fire are not normal people capable of peace . Even if you are right and it's only against Israel ( which is untrue ) they are animals whom you can't deal with . Satmar or no satmar Shitas you can't talk Sechel to those heartless pera Adams

Another point not as vital as the Prior one . They don't want peace . Ehud Barak offered Arafat yimach shimo everything . Don't believe their lies that they want two states . It's blood thirsty murderous lie . Palestinians want from
Sea to sea like Hamas proclaimed and Arafat proved . Unless you propose giving it all back those filthy pigs will continue to slaughter us .

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 07:33 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #22  
Anonymous Says:

"Satmar is 10 %" If that is true, they could be ij"h 90-98% very soon. They were a few families 65 years ago. Less than a small fraction of 1% of yiden. They 10 folded keyn yirbu. If its 10% (I think its closer to 15%) in no time they will be 90+%
Its not rocket science mr uneducated. If you have keyne hora 12-14 children vs 2-4 nonchassidik. Let me make this easy for the uneducated. There a charts on the internet about compound interest rates. Lets say you put aside money @ 5% vs @ 25%. Go check since if I tell you the results you will freek out.

Idiot other chasidim and Litfish have large families too .

You are such a kruma drie kup liar . Satmar is a small fraction . Stop lying already

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 08:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
qazxc Says:

Right. There was no sinas yisroel before Zionism.

Maybe the BOE has a valid point.

Of course there was. But the manifestations of sinah before Zionism pale in comparison to the manifestations of sinah after Zionism (meaning from over a century ago).

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 08:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Saner Says:

You’ve got it backwards. It is anti Semitism that created Israel.

Nope.

Actually, what created Israel are the apikorsim who decided that what Jews need to better assimilate among the nations, is to change the very definition of Jewish People from a Torah-based People to a Nationalist Nation-State-based nation.

Of course, the nations of the world have shown time and again that they don't accept the Zionist fantasy and lie and innately understand Bilam's "Hein am liVadad yishkon", not to become a Zionist nation, CH"V.

And, of course, Zionism did not at all stop Anti-Semitism, R"L L"A.

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 Dec 09, 2018 at 08:48 PM HeshyEmes Says:

Ok, here we go again. 1. BDS is antisemitic because Israel is singled out when they are less discriminatory than over a 100 other countries. 2. Satmar Rebbe was a Tzaddik, but not a novi, and not infallible; he was wrong about Eretz Yisroel. The treifiner Medina is the beginning of Ikvissa Moshiach. And, even if he was right, B'Asher hu shum; it's there already, and we dont have the ability to undo it; so what now? Hand over the keys to Hamas? Abboud? The UN? 3. Anti Zionism by any goy, or non Frum Yid, is definitely antisemitic (see #1 above). 4. Of the 56 or so Moslem countries in the world, none have anything resembling democracy. So if the Moslems treat their own to murder, torture, repression; etc., imagine what they would do to Jews if Israel became a single state (chas v'sholom) with a Moslem majority? Anyone who believes that Jews would be able to live, even as 2nd or 3rd class citizens, in the new Palestine is a Shoiteh!

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 Dec 10, 2018 at 07:23 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #25  
Anonymous Says:

Of course there was. But the manifestations of sinah before Zionism pale in comparison to the manifestations of sinah after Zionism (meaning from over a century ago).

The Crusades?

Chmelniki?

Learn history much?

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 Dec 10, 2018 at 07:33 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

Nope.

Actually, what created Israel are the apikorsim who decided that what Jews need to better assimilate among the nations, is to change the very definition of Jewish People from a Torah-based People to a Nationalist Nation-State-based nation.

Of course, the nations of the world have shown time and again that they don't accept the Zionist fantasy and lie and innately understand Bilam's "Hein am liVadad yishkon", not to become a Zionist nation, CH"V.

And, of course, Zionism did not at all stop Anti-Semitism, R"L L"A.

The average Yid who supported Zionism wanted to live without persecution, without his kids being stolen for the Czar's army, without pogroms, without his fear for his life, his wife, his daughter's safety, without the indignities that were part of everyday life for the poor, uneducated poilisher Yiddin.

That is what made the promise of Zionism so appealing, not Nationalism.

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 Dec 10, 2018 at 07:26 AM qazxc Says:

Reply to #22  
Anonymous Says:

"Satmar is 10 %" If that is true, they could be ij"h 90-98% very soon. They were a few families 65 years ago. Less than a small fraction of 1% of yiden. They 10 folded keyn yirbu. If its 10% (I think its closer to 15%) in no time they will be 90+%
Its not rocket science mr uneducated. If you have keyne hora 12-14 children vs 2-4 nonchassidik. Let me make this easy for the uneducated. There a charts on the internet about compound interest rates. Lets say you put aside money @ 5% vs @ 25%. Go check since if I tell you the results you will freek out.

The BOE has a point. Someone has to start teaching math in yeshivos.

Obviously you learned what you know about math from your ninth grade rebbe.

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