Ramapo, NY – Police and health inspectors are investigating today after students and teachers at a yeshiva on Route 306 slaughtered a cow in the school’s backyard last night, officials said.
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Ramapo police were called to 609 Route 306 shortly before 7 p.m. after neighbors called to report that students and teachers at Yeshiva Bobover had tied a cow to a tree and were slaughtering it. Officials said that a dead calf hanging by its legs from the tree behind the yeshiva, decapitated and in the process of being butchered, was found by police officers.
When police arrived they found a dead cow in the backyard, according to Lt. Brad Weidel.
“There was a cow that had been slaughtered,” he said.
No criminal charges were filed. But the incident was referred to both the Rockland Department of Health as well as town officials, he said.
The cow had apparently been purchased from a livestock company in Monticello, N.Y., Weidel said.
Neighbor Carol Friedman saw adults and teens from the school lead the cow from a brown van into the backyard shortly after 5 p.m. She did not see what happened in the yard, but another neighbor told her that the animal was tied to a tree and slaughtered with knives
“It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
A message left for Rabbi Gershon Bornfreund, operator of the yeshiva, was not immediately returned.
Pearl River lawyer Mark Kurzmann, who is representing the school in an ongoing zoning dispute with the town, was not immediately available for comment.
Thomas Micelli, director of environmental heath for the Rockland Department of Health, said officials were notified of the incident last night.
Inspectors visited the school, located in a residential neighborhood bordering the villages of Wesley Hills and Pomona, this morning, he said.
There was no evidence of fresh cow blood on the ground, according to Micelli. Inspectors also looked to see if there was evidence that meat from the cow was being consumed.
“There was no evidence of that either,” Micelli said. There is nothing in the county sanitary codes that addresses slaughtering animals in residential neighborhoods, he said. “It does not seem that any regulations were violated,” Micelli said
The U.S. Department of Agriculture regulates animal slaughter.
The county Department of Health, is providing information about the incident to state officials, who then have the option of notifying the USDA.
Neighbor Carol Friedman’s statements are most stupid and fasle. On what planet does she live?
But it is wrong the practice (as opposed to learn) Sh’chite with teen agers.
They were studying shchita. These same antisemites woundn’t even budge when they would see in the times of Germany rule slautering a jew. My grandfathers familys were all killed in those times nobady cared, now that a cow is being slautered nebech so harrified “another neighbor told her that the animal was tied to a tree and slaughtered with knives”
Does this Friedman woman eat kosher, and if she does how does she think the
beef she eats was slaughtered, is slaughtering in a backyard different to the animal
than in a slaughterhouse?
It’s almost BBQ season !
who was the shochet . was it the kartchina shochet?
Stupid People Dont They Realize They Live In A Civilized Country Its Not A Free For All And Its Not A chasideshe Goverment Rather We Are Guests In The United State’s , Wait For moshiach
There was no Bobov Shechita before this. Maybe Monsey wants to replace Postville as the Kosher meat capitol.
Neighbor Carol Friedman: “It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
Better to shoot it or electrocute it upstate then…..?
The only cow is the neighbour.
“It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
How can something be acceptable in one location and barbaric in another? If it’s not barbaric to slaughter a cow in a shlachthoiz, how can it be barbaric to do it in the back yard? It may not be pretty, and I wouldn’t let my backyard be used for such a purpose because of the mess it creates, but “barbaric”???
In any case, if “there is nothing in the county sanitary codes that addresses slaughtering animals in residential neighborhoods”, then what are “Police and health inspectors…investigating”?
Are these guys nuts. If you want to learn or see schechita go to a slaughterhouse where they do schechita. Also if you are not going to use the meat from the cow you can not shect it. In slaughter houses if it is treif they end up selling it to treif suppliers.
Residential Neighborhood? Bah…Farmland is residential…We’ve become so removed from the land…Hashem help us
Are those neighbors “anti shechita” animal rights activists, or just bored individuals?
This is a chillul hashem. The main definition of a chillul hashem is an act which brings ridicule and lack of respect on Torah. Slaughtering a cow in a residential neighborhood falls squarely into this category.
Where is all the blood?
“It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
What was horrendous and barbaric? That it was done NEXT DOOR TO HER!
I suppose she thinks that the cow (or chicken, or pig …) she ate for dinner that night committed suicide?
disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what a chillul hashem
Maybe this was Finkels butcher?
I see nothing wrong with teaching bochurim about shechita.
If you can shecht chickens Erev YK in a residential neighborhood, it is a small step to take to shecht a cow. Maybe they should have done a goat or sheep first to ramp up slowly? I’m joking of course. People shouldnt be shecting chickens or cows in open in residential neighborhoods. Hefker Velt.
I guess Carol Friedman should call the police every time she sees someone tying a leash to the neck of a dog. CAROL, you are one big stupid idiot. Go get a life for yourself. If you are sooooo bored, then jump off one of the bridges. Once you’ll get upstairs they will keep you busy, you won’t be bored anymore.
there was no blood and no slaughter took place there. A slaughtered cow was bought to the yeshiveh to for teaching purposes (examples for yoreh deieh). The neighbor, who is in a fight with the yeshiva regarding a zoning dispute, decided to make a stink out of it. She even admitted (and says so in the article) that she didn’t see that it was actually slaughtered there. That is why there was no blood there.
Which Bobov?
I learned Hilchos Treifos in bobov years ago and our rebbe toke us to a kosher slaughter house to review the halochos.
No more barbaric than Huntin’ or Fishin’.
That said, if they even did a kosher shechita they would have had to bury all the blood. Second, I highly doubt that they’d shecht an animal and then just leave carcass in the yard. “When police arrived they found a dead cow in the backyard, according to Lt. Brad Weide” That would be stupid and probably border on Tzar Balei Chaim. We don’t slaughter animals just for fun, we eat them.
Only in backwards Monsey would so many people think it is OK to schecht a cow in a residential neighborhood, or bring a dead cow there…whatever happened it was improper and anyone with common sense recognizes this.
I’m assuming ms carol friedman posesses no Raid anti-cockroach spray, as her tender heart wouldn’t bear the barbarity of the poisoning of a bug.
And as for calling an exterminator for mice??? HYPOCRITE
No 27 makes sense
To all those who don’t understand the difference between slaughtering a cow in slaughter house or in the backyard – ever thought of the difference between taking care of your business in the bathroom vs your front lawn? How would you feel if your Muslim next door neighbor starts slaughtering Halal cows in his backyard?
“It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
what don’t you ppl get???
i wouldn’t want my neighbor slaughtering an animal in their backyard, and i eat meat, and i know where meat comes from, blah blah blah
you don’t drag a cow into your backyard and start cutting it up, period!!
and if you do clean the garbage up.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. If only people thought before they acted. Lets be honest – the poor neighbors. Non of us frum jews would want to live next door to a yeshiva. We buy home is residential areas in order to have some peace and quiet. To top it off the yeshiva decides to commit acts that have no business being done in a residential neighborhood. Maybe the yeshiva in question thins ahavas yisroel is merely a minhag or a chumrah.
I heard that the belzer yeshivos in Eretz Yisroel do the same when they go out bein hazmanim. They bring an experience shochet to do the job, and the bochrim get a close look how shichita is made.
MILLHOUSE! Please Dont Forget That We Are In golus, B4 The War Many Jew’s In Germany Felt The Same Way As You Ie. We Are Equal Citizens Bla Bla Bla WAKE UP
neee 45th or 48th?
When police arrived they found a dead cow in the backyard, according to Lt. Brad Weidel.
“There was a cow that had been slaughtered,” he said
How does he know? If I have a piece of chicken for shabbos does that mean I slaughtered it Friday afternoon?
The again, maybe he is relying on the “testimony” of Carol Friedman. Why is he making a statement relying on her testimony without a thorough investigation?
We should get Rav Halberstam to go to Milhouse’s villa and schect a goat on his front lawn so he would have the z’chus of having a mamash REAL chasidishe shechita done in his honor. I would have suggested a donkey which is more appropriate but obviously cannot be done in accordance with halacha.
I am still waiting to find out more facts – if they did shecht in the yard, I agree that it’s unsanitary and a bad choice for neighborhood relations. But where was the blood? And what did they intend to do with the non-kosher parts of the animal?
If it was shechted elsewhere, again, why did they need the whole cow and why leave it in the yard – the weather has not been cool enough to guarantee against spoiling, and it is not allowed to kill if you don’t eat the animal. In the past, yeshivas knew to take students to the kosher slaughterhouse for this sort of thing – those commenters spewing hatred and insults at the neighbor are out of line.
Regardless of where the animal was killed and for what reason, this is a huge chillul hashem. I found the article through a linked question in the religion section of Yahoo Answers, asking if Jews are sacrificing animals or have similar unknown animal-killing practices. That is a shonda we don’t need – especially at a time where we have the idiots from PETA trying to shut down all kosher slaughter as inhumane and unsanitary. Why shoot our own community in the head with a stunt like this?
Don’t have a cow!
The yeshiva is trying to raise awareness as to why their neighbors resent them.
This they have successfully accomplished.
And perhaps lowered the value of all the real estate in the vicinity…
Hashem Please give us the wisdom we so desperately need.
This is an issue of common sense. This yeshiva just didn’t use any.
You can’t go on Milhouse’s opinion because he is an anarchist who would have had no problem doing in the front yard in the middle of the day in front of anyone.
How did they restrain the cow and immobilize the cow’s head before shechita? Without a proper restraining pen, they must have had several people tripping the cow to the ground and then violently wrestling the head into place to expose the neck. This must have completely panicked and hurt the cow. I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t constitute a grave violation of tsa’ar ba’alei chayim and probably NY State animal cruelty laws!
While I see nothing wrong with having a training class, or even a demonstration, so bochurim can learn about shechita, it seems to have lacked simple common sense.
It should have been done on a trip to a shecht house, or at least to a farm.
How does anyone expect residential neighbors to not be upset by this.
We all read about the “other” religions who were arrested for “shechting” chickens or animals. We saw the tummel that made. Why would anyone think it would
be less crazy in the eyes of these people.
This does not mean they are anti-semites or anti-shechita.
City people like these, make believe that their meat comes from some magical process. They do not think about how the animals are killed.
To them, understandably, to think that “somebody took a cow and slaughtered it with knives!” Freaks them out.
To me, this is just a normal human reaction, and should be understood by us.
The yeshiva was not an appropriate place for this demonstration.
Another reason it was stupid, is that they are trying to fight on other issues. They can certainly use the good will of their neighbors at this time. Actually, it is good, and kind of the right thing, to try to earn the good will of all people, as long as we can without diluting our service of Hashem.
This “neigh-boar” should be sued for libel.
OK OK FOLKS! CALM DOWN ,
I know Carol Friedman personally,
Shes a vegeterian! so lay off her!
I must say that I am amazed that people in this day and age can say with such certainty that it is perfectly acceptable to kill a cow in your residential neighborhood, for any reason. This defies common sense. What planet do you people live on? Yes, I am Jewish by birth but I simply cannot understand the mind set that thinks this type of behavior is normal. No, it is not normal. It is bizarre and it does not belong in a residential neighborhood. There is no excuse for it except the only one I can think of and that is ignorance or arrogance and maybe both.
Monsey, NY – After the Journal News reported today [posted by VIN News] about an allegation that a Jewish school took part in an illegal slaughter of a cow, the Yeshiva Administrator of Bobov released the following statement to VIN News:
Please note that the story of the shechita of the cow on our grounds had nothing to do with me, nor with Bobov. A group of people learning hilchos shechita, used our lot for their practice without our permission. They say that they tried to contact me, but they couldn’t reach me. I surely wouldn’t allow our grounds to be used for this, although no laws were broken.
Rabbi Gershon Borenfreund
Yeshiva Administrator – Bobover Yeshiva of Monsey
Which bobov is on Blauvelt i know it ready for years, I rememeber the old Bobover Reb Shlomo Ztl when he came to that Bobov Shul, Which Bobover Rebbe comes now in that shul?
“”It’s the most horrendous, barbaric thing I have ever heard of,” she said. “I can’t believe they would slaughter a cow in a backyard in a residential neighborhood.”
Go sit down and enjoy your burger….
Ah mazel they weren’t learning Hilchos Kvura (Burial Laws). Some poor shlamazel (shmoe) would have been the victim…
WOW… look here, a good, well thought out, polite response. How refreshin.
Than you Satmar Man:
“While I see nothing wrong with having a training class, or even a demonstration, so bochurim can learn about shechita, it seems to have lacked simple common sense.
It should have been done on a trip to a shecht house, or at least to a farm.
How does anyone expect residential neighbors to not be upset by this.
We all read about the “other” religions who were arrested for “shechting” chickens or animals. We saw the tummel that made. Why would anyone think it would
be less crazy in the eyes of these people.
This does not mean they are anti-semites or anti-shechita.
City people like these, make believe that their meat comes from some magical process. They do not think about how the animals are killed.
To them, understandably, to think that “somebody took a cow and slaughtered it with knives!” Freaks them out.
To me, this is just a normal human reaction, and should be understood by us.
The yeshiva was not an appropriate place for this demonstration.”
I have nothing to add or correct.
Why don’t they do things normally and within the bounds of the law? If they wanted to do a shechita there, then inform the Health Dept. and obtain the approriate permits. Act like a mentch!