Jerusalem – Poll: Most Charedim Believe Riots Hurt Shabbat

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    Orthodox Jews protest pushes a photographer during a protest on the outskirts of conservative Mea Sharim neighborhood in west Jerusalem on June 25, 2009 against the opening of a car park during the Jewish Shabbat.Jerusalem – A majority of the Israeli Jewish public believes that the protests surrounding the Karta parking lot in Jerusalem spur hatred and conflict between the sectors and do not promote Shabbat observing.

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    In a poll conducted for Ynet and the Yesodot organization by the Panels Research Institute, 510 respondents were asked to answer questions surrounding the controversial issue.

    When asked whether the Jerusalem municipality should allow the opening of parking lots on Shabbat, 74% responded positively, while 21% said the status quo should be maintained.

    Meanwhile, 63% of respondents stated that the violent riots against the opening of the parking lots in Jerusalem mainly fueled tensions and hatred between ultra-Orthodox and seculars; 19% said the rallies dishonored Judaism and the Shabbat; and only 12% said they believe these protests help preserve the holy day’s dignity.

    A breakdown of the respondents according to religious affiliation revealed that in all sectors the riots were perceived as a dividing factor: 71% of seculars, 53% of traditional Israelis, 52% of haredim and 42% of religious Jews viewed them as such.

    Only 30% of haredim said the demonstrations helped protect the Shabbat, while 18% of them said these constitute Shabbat desecration.

    Head of the Yesodot Center for Torah and Democracy Shoshi Becker said that in her opinion the Karta parking lot should stay open on Shabbat, because it is not located in a residential area and serves several tourist sites that are visited by many non-Jewish tourists.

    “Of course a religious person is saddened when he sees or hears of en masse Shabbat desecration, but in a democratic country this sentiment cannot force a secular person to remain cooped at home,” said Becker.

    “It should be made clear to the religious and haredi public that they can use educational and cultural mthods to persuade people not to drive on Shabbat. But using violent rallies only evokes hatred towards the ultra-Orthodox society as a whole, and undermines the place and status of the Shabbat,” she added.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Excuse me you headline is misleading Haredim and Jewish population are not the same thing who cares what the seculare Jews think about how to protect the shobos they should try to keep it before they preach it and I trust our gedolim to know better than us what constitutes a kidush or chilul hashem and even if it was a charedi exclusive poll I wouldent trust couse the charedim lie to pollsters they all know it and it’s a ynet poll I don’t trust anything ynet is asociated with

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    what a screwed poll the numbers don’t match

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Unfortunately, the chareidi rabbonim who encourage these demonstrations probably don’t read the newspapers or watch TV so will never know their own followers have reservations about the wisdom of these protests.

    curious
    curious
    14 years ago

    you mean most people dont respect people who carry themselves like vilda chayas?
    i know i do….gevaldig

    Heimishe Yid
    Heimishe Yid
    14 years ago

    My father a’h was a very big Talmid Chochom and he said when you see people doing something wrong against the Torah you have to “SHREI IN DI GASSEN” We have to be Moicha….otherwise it can cause a “kitrig in himmel”…..c”v…..We have to STAND UP FOR SHABBOS…..FOR OUR TORAH…….SHABBOS!!! Yea keep on screaming Shabbos in di heilige land………………….And my father was NOT CHARADI!!!………..

    chesky
    chesky
    14 years ago

    Who cares about polls anyway. The gemora in shabbos says that u have an obligation to protest against chilel shabbos it doesn’t say that it depends on polls!

    scooter
    scooter
    14 years ago

    So Why Did They Come To Protest If They Don’t Think Its Good? And Even If Its True We Have To Follow The Torah Not The Polls, Polls Are Made For Goiyem And The President Campaigns.

    unanumen
    unanumen
    14 years ago

    If moshe rabainu would have gone with polls we would have never made it out of the desert. And if rav ahron would’ve gone with polls america would still be a dessert. And if the jews in general went with polls we would all just lay down in dug up graves.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    you think if riot – will it have any affect on anyones yiddishkiet? You just keep on turning them away.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Actually give me a definition of charadi? Does it mean chasidish? yeshivish? litvish? poshnivitsch? with a beard? without a beard? With Peyos hanging down…. Please define because charadi can mean many different meanings to many different people!

    daas baal habyis
    daas baal habyis
    14 years ago

    the ravad of the eida harav Sternbuch writes in his sefer that even the protest is busting chilil shobes it is alot to protest. MASSHIACH IS READY TO COME in this parsha you see that only one person of 600,000 “Pinchos” had protest in desert sinai
    and he stoped the”magaifa” let us be proud of our brothers in yerusholiam and hopefully “hasham” will stop the “magaifa” of swine flu.

    Confused in Passaic
    Confused in Passaic
    14 years ago

    I would think an open parking lot prevents chillul Shabbos. If someone is drving on Shabbos, isnt it better to pull into a lot ASAP instead of driving around forever, trying to find a spot?

    I dont get it!

    ONEOF THE PROTESTERS
    ONEOF THE PROTESTERS
    14 years ago

    Lets imagine for a sec… There is a king sittingin his pallace. Comes a man walks into the kings palace and in middle of the lobby starts humiliating the king. He then goes and starts spittingat pictures of the king. There are many standing around but noone stops him. Wouldn”t you imagine that EVERYONE would be punished?
    The same is truein our case. If we wouldn”t 1: cry out and 2: try our best to stop them the people G-D forbid may be punished.