Washington – Centers for Disease Control: More Than 1,500 Mump Cases In Orthodox Community

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    Washington – A mumps outbreak among Orthodox Jews in New York and New Jersey has now surpassed 1,500 cases and shows no sign of ending soon.

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    The outbreak began last summer at a boys camp in the Catskills. Nearly all the cases are in the insular Orthodox Jewish community. Health officials said most had a mumps vaccination, but the shots are not completely effective.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday said the count has now reached 1,521. Nineteen people have been hospitalized but no deaths have been reported.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Maybe this will alert to the heimeshe community that personal hygiene and cleanliness is important along with following public health guidelines. Perhaps the ebeshter is sending a subtle message that yiddin should STOP trying to evade all the rules that are established to protect public health and safety. The level of care in most yiddeshe schools and mosdos to personal hygiene is non-existant.

    Puzzled
    Puzzled
    14 years ago

    “Health officials said shots are not completely effective”. Completely effective?

    I know several cases first hand where people had all their shots, double dose etc and still came down with the stuff in a nasty way.

    The shots are not: not completely effective, they don’t seem to be effective, period. Can we have some answers from the CDC? Why are the shots not protecting those who are exposed? Is this a different strain? Are the shots worthless? We need some answers now, not just numbers…

    jancsibacsi
    jancsibacsi
    14 years ago

    i guess ignorance isnt bliss not to know that this would happen again just shows the indifference the parents have for their children there

    Amunah
    Amunah
    14 years ago

    This does not concern me our grandparents and our parents have gotten mumps for decades !! hashem gave us an immune system for this exact reason !! so need to panic these kids will recover fine.

    Dave
    Dave
    14 years ago

    Immunization is around 70% effective.

    If everyone is immunized, however, the chances of being exposed to the disease drop drastically. This is “herd immunity”.

    When people don’t immunize (which means you have no protection against the disease), the chances of exposure to the disease go up, and then the occurence goes up even amongst the immunized. And then of course more can be exposed, and so on.

    This is why failure to immunize is such a significant issue.

    # is a Nazi-German (?)
    # is a Nazi-German (?)
    14 years ago

    You sound exactly like those Nazi/Germans who refereed to all Yidden as “Farfluchte Yuden” in English that would be that all Jews are all “Dirty Jews”.

    Fact is that cleanliness, in 99.99% of all frum children’s schools today, is no different than in any other secular children’s schools.

    A L L young children, regardless of race or religion or frum or non-frum, are all not as careful when it comes to germs, as all adults are.

    There are plenty of outbreaks of any and every other sickness which happens in EACH AND E V E R Y other non-frum circles!

    Would you say that each and every “outbreak” in secular circles are all unclean?

    According to your Tipshus, the center for disease control can be replaced by the Ivory soap company and all the scientists can go to sleep and give out bars of soap instead and solve all of the worlds problems that way:-)

    The Center for disease control is, as it’s name suggests busy 24/7 365 days a year with stopping and controlling outbreaks of disease. 99.99% of all such outbreaks happen 365 days a year and 99.99% are by the secular non-frum. So should you conclude that the secular are more dirty than the frum!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    1, Please, as the parent of an autistic child I am waiting for all the self appointed mavens (most with no science background) to scream about the crazies that supposedly avoid the MMR. I tried to avoid the High School Nurse wanting an MMR for my daughter till the school showed me that she had it on time years ago and confirmed with the MD. The paper work to refuse is not easy.
    2, Perhaps this is a hygiene issue or something like Mikve. I understand most cases are kids that had the MMR as protocol and did not get lifelong immunity. The strain is supposedly not a new strain.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    reply to#1
    I personally know three people who came down with the mumps in the last two months. Two were definitely vaccinated as children. They all practice good hygiene habits, and follow the health guidelines. Why is it necessary for you to cast aspersion on our wonderful frum community. Let’s stop playing the blame game!

    please
    please
    14 years ago

    Please vaccinate. The fact that some people don’t actually makes the disease more dangerous to those that do vaccinate. It’s known as disease herd mentality. Don’t be the one responsible for getting people who went through the trouble to vaccinate sick.

    It’s foolish to allow your children, and other peoples’ children, to get sick. Foolish and selfish.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    As a physician I think it is imperative that each person educate themselves regarding the risks and benefits involved in vaccinations and not put the decision upon their physician or anyone for that matter. Below is a quote from the website http://www.vaccinationeducation.com: “Because vaccines are a preventative measure, they should never be forced. An anti-viral is something that is a response to an outbreak. This is not the same as a vaccination. A vaccination is a strictly preventative measure to help reduce the risk of the patient getting sick. It quite simply just improves the immunity to a particular disease. But since it is not a responsive measure, in other words, since it is not an anti-biotic or anti-viral trying to fight an infection or disease that you actually have, then there is no reason to make people get a vaccine by force. The United States overwhelmingly supports this idea, although health officials and politicians in different states are radically changing this issue, many people consider to be a personal rights issue relating to one’s liberty, or right to choose.”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Kids don’t use the mikvah, just in case you didn’t know.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    And it has spread to Israel. Why is this problem only in the frum world??

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    To #5 my child was given an extra MMR shot when she was small. I asked the pediatrician about it if it was a mistake, but he told he it was ok. My daughter never got the measles , mumps, etc.– He is an excellent dr. I think the extra shot is necessary. Maybe that was what he thought but was afraid to say to me as a parent.

    wondering
    wondering
    14 years ago

    Hmmm, did these boys by any chance get stuck with that (toxic) Flu Vaccine??

    herd "mentality"
    herd "mentality"
    14 years ago

    Please explain this (Dave et al):
    How does a child who is not vaccinated pose a threat to a child who did get vaccinated?
    If you say it is only 70% effective, so then – aren’t those 30% of children for whom it was not “effective” now also a threat to the other children for whom it’s supposed to be effective? Or, are you saying that the unvaccinated child is a threat to the 30% that it wasn’t effective for? Now, let’s say we ELIMINATE that unvaccinated child from the picture…. (maybe the child moved away, OR, say parents decided to immunize child) does it change the picture at all?
    Are the 30% children (for whom the vaccine wasn’t effective) now out of “danger”? Or are they basically in the SAME EXACT situation as before, minus that one additional “may catch the disease” club member?
    Point is (unless you can enlighten me) that vaccines are NOT a foolproof method for being protected against diseases. It works for some, doesn’t work for others. It carries risks, both to take it and not to take it. But don’t quote the “herd immunity” thing – when it don’t make no sense – that the unvaccinated is a risk to the vaccinated. They alone carry their own risk and add no danger to others.