Israel – Chief Rabbis Favor Fur Ban

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    Israel – Chief Rabbis Yonah Metzger and Shlomo Amar are in favor of banning fur imports. An official opinion authored by the two on the matter will be presented at a discussion of the Knesset Education Committee Wednesday, which is preparing the bill for a Knesset vote.

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    According to the opinion, Rabbi Amar says that certain rabbinical laws surrounding the Sabbath were suspended to prevent the suffering of animals, “which shows us how important it is to prevent such suffering.”

    Rabbi Metzger writes that “it is our obligation to prevent cruelty to animals and to be a light to the nations in rejecting the use of products that were made as a result of the suffering of animals.”


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    “Rabbi Metzger writes that “it is our obligation to prevent cruelty to animals and to be a light to the nations in rejecting the use of products that were made as a result of the suffering of animals.” “

    also were not supposed to take non-jewish ideals and morals and take them as our own. The Belzer Rebbe ZYA wore a shtramel, so i think he knew better about shabbos than any of the chief rabbis.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Synthetic Streimels NOW!

    Yankel
    Yankel
    14 years ago

    Banning imports of fur to Eretz Yisroel will make the mitzvah of shtreimel difficult if not impossible. As far as I know the only animals in Eretz Yisroel suitable for this purpose are in the zoos and the supply is very limited. What’s a Yid to do?

    Poppy
    Poppy
    14 years ago

    This is what happens when the chief rabbis aren’t chassidish.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    who says be cruel- we first kill them and then skin them. Don’t we eat meat?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Flammable shtreimels ,NOW

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    whats the mitvah of wearing a shtrimel??? its a garment for centuries Jews and Gentiles wear!

    Manny
    Manny
    14 years ago

    to #3: the MITZVAH of Shtreimel? Give me a break. These hats are based on Polish GOYISHE garb of the 18th century. Being kind to animals is not a “goyishe” value; it is a Jewish value.

    Concerned Belzer
    Concerned Belzer
    14 years ago

    I was very curious whether a kishkettel would be included in the ban. Does it have a din of fur or is it closer to a velvet and thereby okay. Also, what’s gonna be with kutchmeh’s? That is certainly considered fur – so what are the chasidim going to wear in the winter time? Maybe any VIN have some good suggestions. This is geferlech…

    hats off to metzger
    hats off to metzger
    14 years ago

    last time i googled rabbi yona metzger i noticed he wears a rabit felt hat. people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply to # 6. Thats a moot question . However, i am sure that it’s an aveira for a charlatan to wear one. (shtreimel )

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    If I recall learning correctly the Bais Hamikdash and the Mikdash were decerated with the use of animal fur and skin, in addition the Yiddin bought Karbanos that were animal. so yes the animals are there for our use and we do have special laws of how we kill them.

    loan for chasuna
    loan for chasuna
    14 years ago

    i don’t understand why we cant start making good looking fake fur streimals ….
    whats the point of spending thousands of dollars?!

    caps for sale
    caps for sale
    14 years ago

    maybe metzger and amar should set an example and start wearing arab kaffia’s. The hamburg metzger wears is rabbit fur

    How about wool?
    How about wool?
    14 years ago

    Everyone to wear pollyester Hoisen & suits.
    Oy de folyester comes from Arab oil.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Re; to # 17 What is a “shopko ‘ ? something like kakaush .

    Avraham G.
    Avraham G.
    14 years ago

    Can you imagine what the world would look like if Chassidus had started in the Renaissance, a few centuries earlier? If that had happened, Chassidish men would wear long wigs and brightly colored clothes with lots of flamboyant flourishes like ruffled collars and huge buttons. Every Chassid would keep a suit of armor in the closet just in case, just as they did in the Heim.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    No 21. Are u sure. Were u there ?

    LIBERALISM IS A DISEASE!!!!
    LIBERALISM IS A DISEASE!!!!
    14 years ago

    You cannot mix halocha & moral. We do things because of halocha & NOT moral. HKBH didn’t tekk us to do things because they were moral.

    (this was generated toward some people above with questionable hashkofos to say the least.)

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply to no 22. Avraham, you are invited to my Purim Seuda. L’Chaim.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    NO. 15 Make a ” good looking ” fake shtreimel. I suggest go to Chelm and ask an eitza.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply to # 28 In other words The Polish aristocracy emulated the Jewish furhats Give me a break.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Enough , already with these shtissim or shtreimlich.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I didn’t know wearing a streimel a goiyshe invention of 1700s has now become a “mitzva to wear.” I don’t think Moshe Rabeinu would care much for these streimels.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if your boojies were made out of fur! Who cares what you wear on your head!?

    Reading Comprehension
    Reading Comprehension
    14 years ago

    Didn’t the last article state clearly that Shtreimels were exempted from the ban?

    http://www.vinnews.com/48792/2010/02/07/jerusalem-israel-decides-to-ban-all-fur-imports-–-except-shtreimels/

    A E ANDERSON
    A E ANDERSON
    14 years ago

    I think it’s beyond debate that many features of Hasidic dress stem from the “court dress” of prior ages. Interestingly, the knee breeches, silk hose and slippers of court dress were used up until the early years of this century in that one remaining ancien régime monarchy, Great Britain, on certain court occasions. Costumes with remarkably similar anachronistic features are still worn by the Lord Chancellor and others of certain occasions. Moreover, breeches and hose were standard dress, even in America, through the 18th century. To attribute these to a uniquely Jewish “levush” is anti-historical and wrong.

    As to their eminences the chief rabbis of Israel mulling a ban on fur, its seems they are making a silly effort to play politics and seem modern. It would be utterly inconsistent to ban the use of fur while permitting the slaughter of animals for their hides and meat. Of course, they would not be the first rabbis or imams to issue a silly fatwa.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    If Moishe rabeinu wore a shtreimel than maybe we need to step back and rewrite jewish history. Why would someone wandering the Sinai desert for 40 years in often 100 degree temperatures (the norm for the desert in the summer) wear a heavy fur hat??

    R' metzger
    R' metzger
    14 years ago

    Does this mean the Rabbi will not be wearing his rabbit fur hat?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply; to # 47. If so, were all my brilliant comments for naught .

    meheicha teisi
    meheicha teisi
    14 years ago

    To all those suggesting tha t we Chasidim dress normally… Here’s something for thought. The litvak with his Stetson etc. doesn’t fall short from the Chasid with his streimel. Process this! A difference in price? Perhaps… More NORMAL? Lav davka.

    Dovid
    Dovid
    14 years ago

    Shtrimels were a creation of their time just as black Borselinos are of our time. The rebbes in Europe in the 18th century did not wear these hats How did they become heilig?

    eitza geber
    eitza geber
    14 years ago

    forget about the Chassidim. I don’t know when shtreimlich first originated but the Misnagdim as well as the chassidim wore them. The Talmidei HaGra did and their descendants still do. Reb Isser Zalman, R; yehoshua Leib Diskin, R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Yblch”t Rav Elyashiv all wore shtreimlich

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply to # 61. Your observation ,too , is brilliant .

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    most of you who comment and say that “all our chassidic rebbeim wore streimlach and there was no problem of tzaar baalei chaim back then” (or something to that effect) are forgetting something very important. i’m no expert, but in general back then we didn’t have gigantic, soul-less corporations willing to torture animals just to make a few extra (million) bucks. it was probably the local furrier, who went to the woods and captured local animals, and killed and skinned them, selling the meat to whoever would buy it. if that’s how we treated our animals today, i’m sure there would be no problem, but unfortunately most people today are too greedy and narcissistic to care about the feelings of the smaller creatures.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Is the picture a Purim spiel? I never saw a kid that age wearing a streimel.