New York – City and State Must Help Families With Section 8 Vouchers

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    New York – The hundred or so demonstrators who recently descended on the Broadway headquarters of the New York City Housing Authority were desperately trying to call public attention to the 2,600 families whose Section 8 rent vouchers were canceled when the program ran out of money last December.

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    People who had already moved out of homeless shelters, found apartments and presented valid vouchers to landlords – critical steps out of dependency – were told: sorry, the voucher’s no good.

    More than 27 have since moved back into shelters, and more are sure to follow.

    Their plight shines a spotlight on the need for city and state lawmakers to prop up a proven, vital way of alleviating New York’s record level of homelessness.

    Federally funded Section 8 vouchers – currently used by 101,000 New York City residents – provide subsidies directly to landlords, allowing very low-income renters to move out of homeless shelters and other institutions.

    It’s not just a matter of public generosity. Subsidizing a family is much cheaper than the cost of a bed in a city shelter, jail or hospital – places the very poor tend to end up.

    Every few months, the News and other papers carry the story of homeless people being housed in hotels at the exorbitant cost of $100 a night, or $3,000 a month.

    Such arrangements don’t serve anybody well (except, perhaps, the hotel operators). The city shells out too much, the residents are still homeless, and taxpayers are rightly disgusted by the waste.

    New York has long used Section 8 vouchers as a smarter, cheaper alternative to the welfare hotels: Each voucher, on average, provides a rent subsidy of $800 a month – pricey, but far less than the $3,000 a month paid for the shelters.

    We don’t just toss people out on the street. Section 17 of the New York State Constitution, approved by voters in 1938, specifies that “the aid, care and support of the needy are public concerns and shall be provided by the state and by such of its subdivisions, and in such manner and by such means, as the Legislature may from time to time determine.”

    The courts interpret that as meaning New York must help the very poor find housing – including disabled veterans, victims fleeing domestic violence and foster children who have reached maturity and must move out of foster homes or orphanages.

    That legal duty means Albany and City Hall must stop ignoring people like Marissa Dawson, one of the demonstrators.

    “I am facing homelessness next month if something is not done,” Dawson said in a written statement to NYCHA. Dawson, who is asthmatic and a mother of two, says she spent five months in a shelter last year, then found an apartment and planned to pay with Section 8.

    But hers was among the canceled vouchers. Without the subsidy, her landlord is demanding she quit her apartment by month’s end – tomorrow.

    After which, she could well end up back in a homeless shelter.

    “We’re still aggressively pursing options,” NYCHA spokeswoman Sheila Stainback told me. The agency recently received an injection of $26 million in federal aid but is still staring down the barrel of a $19 million deficit and trying to get help from an already cash-strapped state government.

    The fate of 2,600 families seem like a sad but inevitable footnote to the story of a city and state facing multibillion-dollar deficits.

    It’s not. Shoring up the Section 8 program must be a top priority for Mayor Bloomberg, the City Council and the state Legislature.

    Depression-era New Yorkers enshrined a duty of help for the poor in the Constitution to remind us that letting vast numbers plunge though the social safety net is not an option for the Empire State.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    cut the program. the program is riddled with theft and thievery. how many peopel are recieving 2000.00 and then the landlord turns around and has the chutzpah to say your paying 2000.00 im charging you 400.00 extra per month?

    how many people don’t belong on the program altogether?

    How many people that are realyl suffering can’t get onto this program ebcause of all the theivery that goes witht his program?

    cut the program.

    Dems Be Babies!!
    Dems Be Babies!!
    13 years ago

    “Dawson, who is asthmatic and a mother of two, says she spent five months in a shelter last year, then found an apartment and planned to pay with Section 8. “

    Cry me a river! so she is an asthmatic, is it effecting her brain, so she cannot get a job! and dont tell me about the recession, as she clearly hasnt had one for a long while. probably never if her excuse is she is asthmatic. thats a cop out. i have asthma, and work 2 jobs. good for the city! stop section 8, hud, etc. i am tired of paying a lions share of my hard worked for earning, yes that is earning, as in i earned it, to people that are losers!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Maybe I’m dumb and ignorant. From where do these hotels get paid from when the homeless stay there for $3000 a month? That money should pay the section 8 voucher. Ain’t I a genius?! I think I’m running for comptroller, but I don’t have a degree. Does the current comptroller have a degree? Who sold it to him?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I would feel sorry for some of these people if I didn’t know that Section 8 has become a “way of life” with some people living off it for 30 years or more and a tool for “home ownership” by using rich relatives to purchase real estate and using their Section 8 relatives to “pay off the mortgage” with taxpayer money. All of these entitlements are literally choking America, destroying our cherished institutions and way of life and turning us into a Socialist nightmare.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    How about move where rent is cheaper? huh?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    When videos showed people talking about how “Obama was going to pay their mortgage” and the like, I didn’t really think that was what he was actually going to do. And yet here we are, that much closer to socialism.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I receive section 8 without playing any shtick but I still agree with above posters that it’s not fair to have everyone else working to paying my rent. I do it because I qualify legally and if I didn’t take it, it would go to someone else. But it is true that it takes away that it takes away the incentive to work hard to pay the bills. Really these programs should be usable for only a set period of time ( i.e. 3 years) to give one time to stabilize themselves.

    overworked and tired!!
    overworked and tired!!
    13 years ago

    i always wondered what the section 8 employees that have to come approve the apartments think…how many are living in beautiful houses or 2 floor duplexes….while all on the cities dime…

    and im also sick and tired of having to work so hard to support all of u who dont , and live off the government!!!

    what can we do
    what can we do
    13 years ago

    rent in brooklyn is above $2000.00 who can afford to pay that price? not me! give me cheaper housing and i”ll pay it from my pocket until then i”ll use section 8 voucher.

    Dumb taxpayer
    Dumb taxpayer
    13 years ago

    City and State Must Help Families With Section 8 Vouchers!!! Did he MUST??? What a joke? If the woman Dawson is asthmatic how did she end up having two children? She managed to have two kids but couldn’t find a job? What a bunch of lazy bums and liars.

    Landlord
    Landlord
    13 years ago

    It mus be noted that Section 8 rent levels drive up the rents for everyone else. If I can get $2300 from Section 8 for an apartment – why should I rent it for less to a working person who’s timely payment is not guaranteed. Yes, there are parents collecting section 8 payments for renting to their children.

    Yoeli
    Yoeli
    13 years ago

    I didn’t realize that these people also got section 8. I thought it was for Williamsburg and Boro park only.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    People should not be learning if they need section 8 ,they should go to work.People should not have more kids if they cant afford them.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I just emailed [email protected]

    I can tell you for a fact that anyone who I ever knew on the section 8 program is gaming the system.
    It creates an entitlement mentality and it just tends to be an enabler to fraud.
    I myself am on food stamps and if the (section 8) program had been open, I too would make sure to jump on the banwagon of an extra $800 a month.

    madwiththesystem
    madwiththesystem
    13 years ago

    What I fail to understand is why those lucky enough to be on the program already are receiving yearly raises. WHY? If there is extra money why not add new people to the program?
    Perhaps we could put a cap on the amount of years one may participate in the program. I feel that it is highly undemocratic that some people receive help for years on end while others who are also eligible struggle simply because they were born later.

    Bupkis
    Bupkis
    13 years ago

    I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled
    it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, I thought
    as I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds
    of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily
    accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the
    boards of the patio.
    Then came the poop. On the patio tile,
    the chairs, the table…everywhere! Then some of the birds
    turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even
    though I had been feeding them out of my own pocket, and other
    birds were becoming boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and
    squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and
    demanded that I fill it when it got low on food. after a while, I couldn’t even
    sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder
    and in about three days, the birds were almost completely gone.
    I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
    all over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like It used to be…quiet and serene,
    and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
    Our government gives freely and they take. Time to stop the madness. Bring serenity back.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Section 8 is a good thing. I am a landlord and if I don’t get that check I would not be able to rent it out so fast because the average yid needs more of an income then the average people on the street and you all know that so stop crying about your tax money because the govt will take it anyway.

    poshede yid
    poshede yid
    13 years ago

    arguing on the internet is like running a marathon with mentally challenged person, people have become too dependent on sec 8, welfare, food stamps, day care vouchers, if America fails one day who will they turn too? the system is build to be screwed with.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    To number 34 may i ask what you do for a living?.What are your working hours.?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I agrre with most of your comments, unfortunately I became a statistic, due to unforeseen circumstances and yes I was employed as well. I am currently living in a 1 Bdrm apt. With my 2 children, recently lost my job in the midst of all the chaos of going to so many appointments, I still volunteered working helping others, while training to upgrade ¥y skills and looking for work. I filled a Section 8 application last year and now I am anxions about this turnaround, I may end up in a shelter once again, if I’m unable to afford the high cost of rent right now! I worked most of my life and do not expect a handout, but if anyone of us are face with a crisis, then we can at least receive some type of assistance (temporarily). What do you think??