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Jerusalem - Litzman May 'Not' Be Organ Donor Despite Ministry's Campaign

Published on: November 30, 2010 05:31 PM
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Jerusalem - Although the Health Ministry has launched a major campaign to get the public to register as potential organ donors with the ADI organization, Deputy Health Minister Ya’acov Litzman—who runs the ministry—declined to tell The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday whether he himself is registered with ADI.

Nevertheless, ministry director-general Dr. Ronni Gamzu—who has long been on the ADI list and serves as a personal example—went to the Ramat Gan diamond center branch of the Aroma coffee shops to launch the ministry’s campaign to sign up potential donors at all the chain’s branches. Armo CEO Asher Lev signed an ADI card at the event.

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Gamzu congratulated him to encouraging potential donor registration and sat with customers to explain the importance. The screens of the computerized cash registers show the image of an ADI card and encourage customers to sign as they paid for their meals.

Although many haredim in the US recognize brain death—when the lower brain stops functioning even if the person still breathes—as the time when organs can be removed for transplant, most haredim do not. Most organs cannot be used for transplantation if the heart has already ceased beating. Opponents of the taking of organs at brain-death include the Gur hassidim and United Torah Judaism, of which MK Litzman is a member.



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 Nov 30, 2010 at 06:18 PM memyself Says:

"Although many haredim in the US recognize brain death—when the lower brain stops functioning even if the person still breathes—as the time when organs can be removed for transplant,"

who are these so-called chareidim? or are you confusing with reformers?

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 06:22 PM dreidel Says:

"Although many haredim in the US recognize brain death—when the lower brain stops functioning even if the person still breathes—as the time when organs can be removed for transplant"

that's a flat-put lie!
only some of the modern orthodox think that way, but definitelly no haredim.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 06:53 PM Anonymous Says:

And for those who will not sign organ donor cards, hope you will at least consider living kidney donation!

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 07:00 PM Anonymous Says:

There is an article in the current issue of the Jewish Action Magazine, published by the OU. The article is called "Kidney Donation in Jewish Law - A Testimony to the Progress of Science and Medical Halachah" - very interesting article. There are 2 other articles in the same issue of the magazine that may be of interest to some.. One article, titled "Kidney Doctor As Kidney Donor" and the other is "Meet the Kidney Matchmaker." All articles are online if you do a Google search, you will find them.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 07:20 PM kidney donor Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

And for those who will not sign organ donor cards, hope you will at least consider living kidney donation!

Chareidim do donate in great numbers. There's an organization in the US and Canada called Renewal that has done countless kidney matches between people who have never met one another I am one of thos altruistic donors and I am "Chareidi".

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 07:32 PM GB_Jew Says:

It appears to me that charedim are shoving and pushing to be first in line when it comes to accepting organ transplants - which would probably have been harvested from brain-dead donors.

That being the case, why can they not do the same thing in reverse, i.e. to be first in line to sign donor cards?

If those charedim do not then they are clearly guilty of duplicity and even hypocrisy.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 07:34 PM Anonymous Says:

Rabbi Avraham Ravitz, tz"l, Member of Knesset had signed an organ donor card. So did Rabbi Meshi Zahav of Zaka. If you go to the HODS website (Halachic Organ Donation Society) you will see Rabbi's who have signed organ donor cards.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 07:35 PM Anonymous Says:

I was told about 100 people die in Israel each year, waiting for a kidney.

Many people are also fleeing out of Israel to get a kidney, many coming to the USA and other countries.

Something needs to be done about the critical issue of the organ shortage in Israel!!!

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 08:34 PM Anonymous Says:

I never heard of anyone going back to work 20 minutes later! And someone cannot donae a kidney while pregnant. I guess you mean had a baby 2 years later, not 2 weeks later! As I know 2 people who had a baby about 2 years later.

You have to be in the hospital a minimum of one day after kidney donation - so how can you go back to work 20 minutes later? Maybe you mean 20 days later? Oh, I do know people who have gone back to work even 10 days later.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 08:40 PM Shlomo2 Says:

To those who think that signing the ADI Card is only for "Reformers" and "Modern Orthodox," it is endorsed by both Rav Ovadia Yosef and Rav Zalman Nechemiah Goldberg, with the stipulation that one names a Rav who will be the final determinant as to whether death as occurred. The card provides a special line for this.

It is therefore a Chilul Hashem and a disgrace that the minister has not signed the card, given that nothing could be done without permission from whatever Rav he wants to name.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 08:46 PM monseyyid Says:

Litzman might not be able to donate a kidney or part of his liver because of underlying medical issues. We should not speculate. Litzman is a true Torah Jew who is an example for others who serve in the Kenesset.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 08:54 PM Anonymous Says:

One of the greatest gadolim alive today, Rav Tendler, shlita, is also a world expert bioethicist, has said that organ donation upon brain death is not only mutar but one of the greatest mitzvot one can do in life or at the end of life. I cannot imagine there are many frum yidden who would contradict his views. Those who do, should either be denied any organ donation or at least be at the very end of the line. Anything less would be a big chilul hashem.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 09:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

I was told about 100 people die in Israel each year, waiting for a kidney.

Many people are also fleeing out of Israel to get a kidney, many coming to the USA and other countries.

Something needs to be done about the critical issue of the organ shortage in Israel!!!

Israel officially disqualifies most altruistic donors. Chareidim donate a lot. They fly to the US to donate.
Its a shame that the MO's and left yell and scream about donating after death. Let them sign up for live donation like the chareidim do here in the US.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 09:53 PM Yerachmiel Says:

Reply to #12  
monseyyid Says:

Litzman might not be able to donate a kidney or part of his liver because of underlying medical issues. We should not speculate. Litzman is a true Torah Jew who is an example for others who serve in the Kenesset.

Litzman's chezkas kashrus is thrown in to doubt by his role is protecting the rodef avrohom mondrowitz from extradition. Litzman is an askan. An askan can be a tzadik. But alas, many are not.

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 Nov 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM Lawyer Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

One of the greatest gadolim alive today, Rav Tendler, shlita, is also a world expert bioethicist, has said that organ donation upon brain death is not only mutar but one of the greatest mitzvot one can do in life or at the end of life. I cannot imagine there are many frum yidden who would contradict his views. Those who do, should either be denied any organ donation or at least be at the very end of the line. Anything less would be a big chilul hashem.

The overwhelming majority of poskim reject R. Tendler's position. R. Aharon Soloveichik, when he was alive, not only rejected this position, but said, and I quote directly, "They are being mattir retzichah." Today, R. Elyashiv, among many others, also rejects that view.

(The one exception, as some have noted here, is kidney donation, which does not require death of any kind and can even be taken from a live donor.)

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 Dec 01, 2010 at 12:14 AM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:

"I know someone who went back to work 20 minutes after surgery"

Let us be charitable, morai verabossai. Perhaps "chaya kidney donor" #5 was referring to BLOOD donors? Or perhaps she has written a load of bushwa?

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 Dec 01, 2010 at 12:16 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

Rabbi Avraham Ravitz, tz"l, Member of Knesset had signed an organ donor card. So did Rabbi Meshi Zahav of Zaka. If you go to the HODS website (Halachic Organ Donation Society) you will see Rabbi's who have signed organ donor cards.

Ravitz's organs are/were useless. He was above the age when is rgans would be worth anything. Mishizahav is not a posek either.
The Torah Gedolim who aren't busy with "Tikun Haolam" crap have said it time and time again it is "retzichah".
Let these "tikun haolam people" call an organization like Renewal and donate a kidney while they are alive. Let them follw the leed of the orthodox donors.
Having a donor card in ur wallet gives us a .00001% chance of helping a person in need. Standing up to the plate and donating a kidney "altruistically" makes the recipients odds a lot better

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 Dec 01, 2010 at 03:41 PM Lawyer Says:

To those who think that signing the ADI Card is only for "Reformers" and "Modern Orthodox," it is endorsed by both Rav Ovadia Yosef and Rav Zalman Nechemiah Goldberg, with the stipulation that one names a Rav who will be the final determinant as to whether death as occurred. The card provides a special line for this

That strikes me as a complete fake out. The vast majority of Rabbonim would not allow donation, because they hold that death acc. to halakha occurs later than when it is defined by most of the medical establishment. At that later point, almost all the organs are useless (except maybe the corneas).

It's like signing a card that says, "I promise to eat pork, but only if my Rabbi permits it first." And what do you think the Rabbi is going to say?

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