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Petah Tikva - Rabin's killer Rejects Offer to Study Torah with Other Prisoner

Published on: February 6, 2011 11:01 AM
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** FILE ** In this file photo dated Nov. 1, 2007, Yigal Amir, the convicted assassin of late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, is seen during a court hearing in Tel Aviv, Israel. Amir fatally shot Rabin at the end of a peace rally in Tel Aviv on Nov. 4, 1995. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit, File)Petah Tikva - Yigal Amir, who is serving a life sentence for assassinating former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, rejected on Sunday an offer from the State Prosecution that would allow him to hold a one hour bi-weekly torah study session with one fellow prisoner.

“The offer disrespects the High Court’s decision,” Amir’s attorney Ariel Atari wrote to the Petah Tikva District Court, claiming that the offer to ease Amir’s confinement was unsatisfactory.

In December, the High Court of Justice rejected Amir’s appeal to alter the terms of his imprisonment. The court ruled that he is to be held in solitary confinement for an additional six months. However, the justices wrote that they might consider allowing Amir to spend limited time with other prisoners, under supervision, for purposes such as a prayer quorum.

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About a month later, the Petah Tikva District Court asked the State Prosecution to look into easing the conditions of Amir’s detention - he has been serving his sentence in isolation for over 15 years. Around that time the abovementioned proposal was submitted to Atari, Amir’s attorney.

“There is no doubt that this position reflects the attitude of the Shin Bet in general and of the Prison Service especially, that the court is at their service – otherwise it is impossible to understand their contempt towards the High Court conveyed by this proposal,” Atari said.

Moreover, Atari claimed that the State Prosecution is disregarding the High Court’s suggestion to allow Amir to pray as part of a quorum under supervision.

“There is no doubt that the prosecution wishes to drag out the High Court’s decision, and attempts to draw the court into some kind of negotiations, starting at the opening point, as though the High Court did not speak out,” he said.

Atari noted that the prayer quorum is not just a social gathering, but is a basic right that Amir deserves – the freedom of worship.

“Of course, there is nothing to stop a prison service official from joining the quorum as a 10th man, enjoying Amir’s poetry and hearing all his thoughts and conversations with the rest of the worshipers and with his God,” Amir’s attorney noted cynically. “If he finds any faults, he can report them to the court immediately.”



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 Feb 06, 2011 at 11:06 AM Liepa Says:

The Israeli leftists fascist system in play here.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 11:54 AM Zahav36 Says:

Too bad Israel doesn't have a death penalty. Whatever he thinks of his jail conditions, he's having more fun right now than Yitzhak Rabin.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 12:06 PM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #1  
Liepa Says:

The Israeli leftists fascist system in play here.

Most countries would treat their PM's killer similarly if not worse

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 12:31 PM berelw Says:

He killed another human being, another Jew in cold blood, i dont want to be his judge, but before comment #1 you curse the leftist gov. realize what he did. I dont care if someone disagrees with somones politics but to take a life is wrong and against the torah the aseres hadibroas. perhpas after 15yrs they should realease him he if he realizes is wrong and rectifies.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 12:45 PM What does HALACHA say about this? Says:

Al Pi Halacha:

Haba Lehorgach? The Halacha is:

Hashkem vehargehu!

Anyone giving away land to those who Kill Jews every day is helping and directly giving them a hand for them to do more and more Killing of Jews.

Anyone who keeps on helping the Killing of Jews, deserves the Death Penalty and so Rabin had deserved the Death Penalty and this Yid had the ZCHUS to save the rest of Israel from being brought closer to be killed with Rabins ongoing actions of giving away land of Israel to those who want it so that it will be easier for them to Kill more Jews.

Even the Goyim understand this concept as the president of the USA had said that the US will make no distinction between the Terrorists themselves and those who harbor them and help them and protect them and finance them, such as Rabin who helped Terrorists Kill Jews with his giving away land to these Arab Murderers.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 12:48 PM DizzyIzzy Says:

Reply to #2  
Zahav36 Says:

Too bad Israel doesn't have a death penalty. Whatever he thinks of his jail conditions, he's having more fun right now than Yitzhak Rabin.

It's a toss-up. If Rabin were alive today, he would would be most unhappy at the "peace" Oslo bought. As usual, as always, Israel gave up something concrete and in return got unkept promises from those who had no power to make them and would not do so if they could

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 12:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Liepa Says:

The Israeli leftists fascist system in play here.

If he'd been convicted of assassinating an American President, ch'v , he'd probably be given the death penalty. So calling his sentence 'fascist' is utterly ridiculous.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 01:13 PM The Professor Says:

There doesn't appear to be any change in Amir's weltanschauung. He shows no remorse for killing Rabin, and undoubtedly still maintains that he did it "l'Shaym Mitzvoh." He's already getting conjugal visits from his wife, who is raising their son that he fathered during one of those visits essentially on her own. Evidently, the overall conditions of his incarceration haven't pushed him to do t'shuvah. Let him rot until he does....

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 01:22 PM frame up Says:

Amir didn't do it. He was framed.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 01:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Liepa Says:

The Israeli leftists fascist system in play here.

This murderer is the dredge of Israeli society...why would we waste even an instant in debating the "right" of this rasha

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 01:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
What does HALACHA say about this? Says:

Al Pi Halacha:

Haba Lehorgach? The Halacha is:

Hashkem vehargehu!

Anyone giving away land to those who Kill Jews every day is helping and directly giving them a hand for them to do more and more Killing of Jews.

Anyone who keeps on helping the Killing of Jews, deserves the Death Penalty and so Rabin had deserved the Death Penalty and this Yid had the ZCHUS to save the rest of Israel from being brought closer to be killed with Rabins ongoing actions of giving away land of Israel to those who want it so that it will be easier for them to Kill more Jews.

Even the Goyim understand this concept as the president of the USA had said that the US will make no distinction between the Terrorists themselves and those who harbor them and help them and protect them and finance them, such as Rabin who helped Terrorists Kill Jews with his giving away land to these Arab Murderers.

Your disgusting effort to rationalize the tragic murder of a great hero of EY in the guise of halacha is the biggest chillul hashem I can recollect reading here. The real "zchus" will be for the one who keeps YOU from spreading such vile comments.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 01:45 PM The Professor Says:

Reply to #5  
What does HALACHA say about this? Says:

Al Pi Halacha:

Haba Lehorgach? The Halacha is:

Hashkem vehargehu!

Anyone giving away land to those who Kill Jews every day is helping and directly giving them a hand for them to do more and more Killing of Jews.

Anyone who keeps on helping the Killing of Jews, deserves the Death Penalty and so Rabin had deserved the Death Penalty and this Yid had the ZCHUS to save the rest of Israel from being brought closer to be killed with Rabins ongoing actions of giving away land of Israel to those who want it so that it will be easier for them to Kill more Jews.

Even the Goyim understand this concept as the president of the USA had said that the US will make no distinction between the Terrorists themselves and those who harbor them and help them and protect them and finance them, such as Rabin who helped Terrorists Kill Jews with his giving away land to these Arab Murderers.

It's good to know that you consider yourself a Beis Din, and that your evaluation of Rabin's actions justified the waiving of the requirement of has'ro-oh. Rabin may have been naive about Palestinian actions, but was not a terrorist. People with your beliefs aided and abetted the actions of nut-jobs like Yigal Amir.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 02:27 PM Joe-Shmoe Says:

Reply to #2  
Zahav36 Says:

Too bad Israel doesn't have a death penalty. Whatever he thinks of his jail conditions, he's having more fun right now than Yitzhak Rabin.

IMHO living in solitary confinement (prison), non-comparably worse than being dead in solitary confinement (tomb).

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 02:32 PM Why-Ask-Why Says:

What does Amar say about this? Is this Mutaaaar? Is it mutaaar to steal, lie, cheat & kill? What do the concert ban rabbis say about this?

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 03:29 PM webster Says:

Reply to #1  
Liepa Says:

The Israeli leftists fascist system in play here.

fascism is far right not left.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 03:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Joe-Shmoe Says:

IMHO living in solitary confinement (prison), non-comparably worse than being dead in solitary confinement (tomb).

Does anyone (other than a few right wing fanatics) really care whether Amir suffers in his own private gehonom in olam hazeh or his verison of olam haboh? For what he did, there is no punishment great enough.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 03:36 PM menachemwh Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Your disgusting effort to rationalize the tragic murder of a great hero of EY in the guise of halacha is the biggest chillul hashem I can recollect reading here. The real "zchus" will be for the one who keeps YOU from spreading such vile comments.

well said amen

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 03:41 PM curious Says:

Reply to #5  
What does HALACHA say about this? Says:

Al Pi Halacha:

Haba Lehorgach? The Halacha is:

Hashkem vehargehu!

Anyone giving away land to those who Kill Jews every day is helping and directly giving them a hand for them to do more and more Killing of Jews.

Anyone who keeps on helping the Killing of Jews, deserves the Death Penalty and so Rabin had deserved the Death Penalty and this Yid had the ZCHUS to save the rest of Israel from being brought closer to be killed with Rabins ongoing actions of giving away land of Israel to those who want it so that it will be easier for them to Kill more Jews.

Even the Goyim understand this concept as the president of the USA had said that the US will make no distinction between the Terrorists themselves and those who harbor them and help them and protect them and finance them, such as Rabin who helped Terrorists Kill Jews with his giving away land to these Arab Murderers.

I love Israel too. But giving away land from the medina can hardly be called murder, much less "coming to kill you." This is just a silly rationalization, not a a reasonable psak.

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 04:54 PM esther Says:

Reply to #18  
curious Says:

I love Israel too. But giving away land from the medina can hardly be called murder, much less "coming to kill you." This is just a silly rationalization, not a a reasonable psak.

the issue of the assasination aside,the end result of giving away land to arabs WAS the murder of many jews.military experts warned of this.whatever rabin and his associates were foolishly,naievely thinking in their leftist minds,it only served to embolden the palistinians who indeed,as most yidden now concede, do fall under the category of "coming to kill you".

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 Feb 06, 2011 at 04:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
What does HALACHA say about this? Says:

Al Pi Halacha:

Haba Lehorgach? The Halacha is:

Hashkem vehargehu!

Anyone giving away land to those who Kill Jews every day is helping and directly giving them a hand for them to do more and more Killing of Jews.

Anyone who keeps on helping the Killing of Jews, deserves the Death Penalty and so Rabin had deserved the Death Penalty and this Yid had the ZCHUS to save the rest of Israel from being brought closer to be killed with Rabins ongoing actions of giving away land of Israel to those who want it so that it will be easier for them to Kill more Jews.

Even the Goyim understand this concept as the president of the USA had said that the US will make no distinction between the Terrorists themselves and those who harbor them and help them and protect them and finance them, such as Rabin who helped Terrorists Kill Jews with his giving away land to these Arab Murderers.

There is a strange and perverse trend among some posters who live in a fantasy world where they twist and distort daas torah and apply literally some concepts which they fail to comprehend. Even if we were living in z'man moishiach where some of these concepts might be resurected, there would be a beis din or sanhedrin to adjudicate these issues and not some bloodthirty, mentally deranged yid acting on his own.

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 Feb 07, 2011 at 08:25 AM mnmys1987 Says:

Reply to #3  
The_Beadle Says:

Most countries would treat their PM's killer similarly if not worse

Not true. In many countries, criminals have a TV set in their jail, have the right to walk some minutes in the courtyard and meet their family.

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