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Pensacola, FL - Judge: States Must Continue with Health Overhaul

Published on: March 3, 2011 01:46 PM
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Pensacola, FL - A federal judge in Florida says states must continue implementing the president’s health care overhaul even though he has declared it unconstitutional.

Florida and 25 states sued to block the law, and District Judge Roger Vinson has ruled in their favor.

He says Obama administration attorneys have one week to appeal. If they don’t meet that deadline, Vinson says the states can consider the law invalid.

The case is one of several challenges to the health care law, which is almost certain to end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.

In his ruling, Vinson says it’s in the best interest of the nation to continue with the massive health overhaul while the cases work their way through the legal system.



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 Mar 03, 2011 at 02:37 PM the_maivin Says:

the headline is twisted! its trying to make a very bad ruling for Obama into something good
in short the court ruled that "the whole law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL", and the Government has one week to appeal (something they would have done anyway) and if they don't THEY MUST STOP IMPLEMENTING IT!
so where is the great news? the one week that the judge gave them?

this is a leftist spin, plain and simple.

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 Mar 03, 2011 at 03:23 PM InformedConsent Says:

I don't understand Judge Vinson....if his ruling that ObamaCare is unconstitutional, then why must states continue implementation even for one second?

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 Mar 03, 2011 at 05:17 PM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #2  
InformedConsent Says:

I don't understand Judge Vinson....if his ruling that ObamaCare is unconstitutional, then why must states continue implementation even for one second?

Because you have no understanding of how our legal system works.

The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional". The government has the right to correct the law. They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place until all appeals are exhausted. This could take YEARS. By then, the entire law will be in effect anyway.

This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

FYI: For you and #1, a little education on how our legal system works (try an elementary school civics class) would help you understand this better.

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 Mar 03, 2011 at 07:50 PM DemsBeBabies Says:

Reply to #3  
PMOinFL Says:

Because you have no understanding of how our legal system works.

The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional". The government has the right to correct the law. They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place until all appeals are exhausted. This could take YEARS. By then, the entire law will be in effect anyway.

This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

FYI: For you and #1, a little education on how our legal system works (try an elementary school civics class) would help you understand this better.

Sorry buddy. Your understanding of the legal system is showing. What is judge did was give a 1 week stay. By saying 1 part of the law was unconstitutional, the entire what was unconstitutional, eyes no sever claus was instituted. This was a very bad judgement for obama. If he doesn't file expedited appeal within the next week, the entire law is scrapped as it has been found to be unconstitutional. If you actually read the decision you would notice of appearance of anger the judge has at the obama administration for ignoring his ruling. He clearly states again set no stay was needed, as his earlier decision what date defacto injunction against the wall rendering it moves

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 Mar 03, 2011 at 08:03 PM the_maivin Says:

Reply to #3  
PMOinFL Says:

Because you have no understanding of how our legal system works.

The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional". The government has the right to correct the law. They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place until all appeals are exhausted. This could take YEARS. By then, the entire law will be in effect anyway.

This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

FYI: For you and #1, a little education on how our legal system works (try an elementary school civics class) would help you understand this better.

sorry my friend, it is you that has no understanding in law or politics!

you write: The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional".

wrong, the judge ruled the whole thing void! i quote “Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."

you write: The government has the right to correct the law.

yes they can amend it, but that would require passage by the House and Senate, which is impossible, as the Democrats lost their majority.

you write: They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place.

yes, they have the right to get a stay on this ruling, but that does not make THIS ruling GOOD for them, it means they still have other options to get around this devastating ruling.

you write: This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

it is not just an "opinion", it is a BINDING FEDERAL RULING for 26 states!

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 Mar 03, 2011 at 08:13 PM charliehall Says:

Reply to #3  
PMOinFL Says:

Because you have no understanding of how our legal system works.

The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional". The government has the right to correct the law. They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place until all appeals are exhausted. This could take YEARS. By then, the entire law will be in effect anyway.

This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

FYI: For you and #1, a little education on how our legal system works (try an elementary school civics class) would help you understand this better.

Also, three other judges have ruled it constitutional -- not that you'd know that from the right wing pundits.

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 Mar 04, 2011 at 11:00 AM charliehall Says:

Reply to #5  
the_maivin Says:

sorry my friend, it is you that has no understanding in law or politics!

you write: The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional".

wrong, the judge ruled the whole thing void! i quote “Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."

you write: The government has the right to correct the law.

yes they can amend it, but that would require passage by the House and Senate, which is impossible, as the Democrats lost their majority.

you write: They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place.

yes, they have the right to get a stay on this ruling, but that does not make THIS ruling GOOD for them, it means they still have other options to get around this devastating ruling.

you write: This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

it is not just an "opinion", it is a BINDING FEDERAL RULING for 26 states!

No, it isn't binding, as there are other judges who have ruled the law to be constitutional.

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 Mar 04, 2011 at 12:21 PM the_maivin Says:

Reply to #7  
charliehall Says:

No, it isn't binding, as there are other judges who have ruled the law to be constitutional.

for the 26 states that were part of THIS case, it most surly is binding!

here is a quot from the David B. Rivkin Jr. who represented the 26 states
“For the 26 states that were parties to this suit, the entire statute is dead, The decision has immediate force, and it means all the new Medicaid stuff is gone.”

the only thing Obama can now do is appeal, and get a stay, but until he does that, THIS RULING IS BINDING!

Assistant to the President Stephanie Cutter said they would appeal the ruling and might seek to stay Judge Vinson’s decision.

“We don’t believe this kind of judicial activism will be upheld and we are confident that the Affordable Care Act will ultimately be declared constitutional,”

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 Mar 05, 2011 at 11:17 PM DemsBeBabies Says:

Reply to #3  
PMOinFL Says:

Because you have no understanding of how our legal system works.

The judge declared that ONE, single item in the law was "unconstitutional". The government has the right to correct the law. They also have the right to appeal the decision which will keep the law in place until all appeals are exhausted. This could take YEARS. By then, the entire law will be in effect anyway.

This one judge's opinion was not even close to being the end of Obamacare.

FYI: For you and #1, a little education on how our legal system works (try an elementary school civics class) would help you understand this better.

Sorry buddy. Your understanding of the legal system is showing. What is judge did was give a 1 week stay. By saying 1 part of the law was unconstitutional, the entire what was unconstitutional, eyes no sever claus was instituted. This was a very bad judgement for obama. If he doesn't file expedited appeal within the next week, the entire law is scrapped as it has been found to be unconstitutional. If you actually read the decision you would notice of appearance of anger the judge has at the obama administration for ignoring his ruling. He clearly states again set no stay was needed, as his earlier decision what date defacto injunction against the wall rendering it moves

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