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Jerusalem - In Photos: Thousands Attend Mass Prayer To Bury Remains Of Ancient Bones From Jaffa

Published on: March 28, 2011 04:41 PM
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Jerusalem - Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews participated today at the funeral of ancient bones uncovered near Andromeda Hill in Jaffa March 28 2011.

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Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather around boxes containing the remains of ancient bones, which are covered in a Jewish prayer shawl during a mass prayer in Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighbourhood March 28, 2011. The bones were unearthed near Tel Aviv where a luxury hotel is to be built. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who believe there are ancient Jewish graves at the site, have protested the new building. The Israel Antiquities Authority, after examinations, concluded the bones are not from Jewish graves. REUTERS

Ultra-Orthodox Jews take part in a mass prayer after boxes containing the remains of ancient bones were bought to Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighbourhood March 28, 2011. The bones were unearthed near Tel Aviv where a luxury hotel is to be built. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who believe there are ancient Jewish graves at the site, have protested the new building. The Israel Antiquities Authority, after examinations, concluded the bones are not from Jewish graves. REUTERS

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Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather around boxes of ancient bones that were just covered by a Jewish prayers shawl, or 'talit,' as a mass prayer gets underway in the Mea Shearim neighborhood in Jerusalem to bury the bones on 28 March 2011 according to Jewish tradition and law. The bones have been unearthed during archaeological excavations in Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv, and have been the cause of protests and clashes over what the Hassidic calls the desercration of ancient graves where a luxury hotel is to be built.. The bones were brought to the Mount of Olives cemetery in Jerusalem for burial.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER

 Ultra-Orthodox Jewish boys cram a window in a 'yeshiva.' or Jewish seminary, in the Mea Shearim neighborhood of Jerusalem as a mass prayer is recited on 28 March 2011 prior to the burial of boxes of ancient bones excavated from an archaeological site in Jaffa. The bones were unearthed over the past year at a site south of Tel Aviv where a luxury hotel is to be built and has been the site of protests and clashes with police over what the ultra-Orthodox say is the desercration of Jewish graves.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER

Ultra-Orthodox Jews take part in a mass prayer in the Mea Shearim neighborhood in Jerusalem to bury boxes of ancient bones on 28 March 2011 according to Jewish tradition and law. The bones have been unearthed during archaeological excavations in Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv, and have been the cause of protests and clashes over what is called the desercration of ancient graves in order to build a luxury hotel. The bones were brought to the Mount of Olives cemetery in Jerusalem for burial.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER

Ultra-Orthodox Jews take part in a mass prayer in the Mea Shearim neighborhood in Jerusalem to bury boxes of ancient bones on 28 March 2011 according to Jewish tradition and law. The bones have been unearthed during archaeological excavations in Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv, and have been the cause of protests and clashes over what is called the desercration of ancient graves in order to build a luxury hotel. The bones were brought to the Mount of Olives cemetery in Jerusalem for burial.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER

Ultra-Orthodox Jews take part in a mass prayer in the Mea Shearim neighborhood in Jerusalem to bury boxes of ancient bones on 28 March 2011 according to Jewish tradition and law. The bones have been unearthed during archaeological excavations in Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv, and have been the cause of protests and clashes over what is called the desercration of ancient graves in order to build a luxury hotel. The bones were brought to the Mount of Olives cemetery in Jerusalem for burial.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER

An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy watches the crowd gather outside a 'yeshiva,' or seminary, in the Mea Shearim neighborhood of Jerusalem before a banner that reads, 'No ,NoNo, No' in Hebrew as a mass prayer is called to bury boxes of ancient bones on 28 March 2011. The bones were excavated from an archaeological site in Jaffa, south of Tel Aviv, over the past year and were the cause of protests and clashes with police over what the ultra-Orthodox say is the desercration of Jewish graves.  EPA/JIM HOLLANDER



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 Mar 28, 2011 at 05:04 PM DavidMoshe Says:

Interesting... if the Ministry of Antiquities determined that the remains were not Jewish remains, what's the basis for this big production? Why did these folks come to the conclusion that these were Jewish remains?

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 05:14 PM Wmsbg Says:

because the ministry of antiquities are apikorsim and are not reliable, the rabunim say they checked the remains and its jewish bones rachmunah litzlan

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 05:24 PM lchaim Says:

thats for sure that these are jewish bones

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 05:31 PM shvigger Says:

Just because the minister of antiquities decided so, doesn't mean it is so. The minister of antiquities is an apikoris with an agenda.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 05:44 PM Reb Yona Says:

your question is valid without stating what the Ministry of Antiquities determined. namely, what's the basis of Asra Kadisha?
the answer to that is that there are Halachos that set the criteria that needs to be met for graves to be treated as a jewish cemetary. the leading rabbis of Asra Kadisha concluded, after investigating, that the cemetary is jewish, based on halachic criteria.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 06:16 PM k9hara Says:

Reply to #1  
DavidMoshe Says:

Interesting... if the Ministry of Antiquities determined that the remains were not Jewish remains, what's the basis for this big production? Why did these folks come to the conclusion that these were Jewish remains?

The question is DovidMoshe, not "Why did these folks come to the conclusion that these were Jewish remains?" but "HOW?"

The answer to why is very simple. They dislike the antiquities authorities, they've been fighting this fight for a long time and now they can claim that they were right but atleast these (pig) bones were given kever yisroel.

My main question is "HOW?" The archialogists have been studying bones for years, many of the people in the pictures have had the zchus to learn many many sugyos in shas but probably never saw a real human bone in their life. (Unless they've gone to some tzionishe museum.) Based on the FACT that pig bones were found at the sight, how do they reconcile that these bones are Jewish bones?

1500 years ago, something like this must have happened. There was a non-jewish cemetery of Roman and the Rabbonim at the time were scared that in the future, people will think that its a jewish cemetery. So thay put pig bones there to prove to all future generations that this is a non-Jewish cemetery. And we all missed the hint...

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 08:26 PM enlightened-yid Says:

Nice show for political purposes. Notice how they gathered thousand young children and men of working age when that demographic should be in schools or working. It's easy to mobilize thousands of people when no one works. The kids seem excited like it's a field archeology trip too to read some prayer they have been ordered to read for ancient bones whom experts know are not even Jewish.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 08:40 PM deskjockey627 Says:

Biggest joke is that graves on Har Hazeisim in their own backyard are descrated daily. Let them go there and clean that up first. But no newspaper coverage for that.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 08:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Wmsbg Says:

because the ministry of antiquities are apikorsim and are not reliable, the rabunim say they checked the remains and its jewish bones rachmunah litzlan

Azoy, you are as big fool as the "rabbonim: who you claim engaged in this charade. They are not scientists or anthropologists and have no emperical basis for their conclusions. You can call anyone an "apikores" if they don't agree with your uninformed views of scientific reality but that simply reinforces your ignorance.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 09:51 PM Anonymous Says:

I have a question. Did these thousands of chassidim attend the funeral for the Fogel family? I saw the photos from the funeral and I dont recall seeing them. If not, why? For ancient bones that may not even be Jewish thousands show up. For victims of terrorist attacks some show up. Am I missing something?

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 10:05 PM ProminantLawyer Says:

#10...you are missing something.
they don't care of living beings only dead ones; they don't care for israelis only their one; they are selfish you are not.

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 Mar 28, 2011 at 10:54 PM Moshe4753 Says:

whats the difference if the bones were jewish or not? the bones were disturbed by the digging , and regardless if the bones were jewish or not , there should be some respect shown.

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 04:00 AM Trolly_McTrollerston Says:

Reply to #2  
Wmsbg Says:

because the ministry of antiquities are apikorsim and are not reliable, the rabunim say they checked the remains and its jewish bones rachmunah litzlan

???The rabunim say they checked the remains and its jewish bones??? Obviously they are Jewish bones because ..... CAN YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS? how does one do that? on what basis do you make such outlandish claims?

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 07:14 AM Babishka Says:

The Smithsonian and the Museum of Natural History (both in NY and in Chicago) have returned many of their collections to various aboriginal communities who then interred the remains in accordance with their traditions. Likewise if the Israel Antiquities were approached in the same manner as other native communities approached the Smithsonian and MNH they would receive their ancestral remains with respect.

However in this case what evidence do the rabbonim have to prove that these remains must receive Kever Yisroel? It seems to me this is just a big show to display their antagonism to the IAA and there is far from definitive evidence that these remains are even Jewish.

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 07:24 AM shredready Says:

maybe the robonim can say how they concluded that the bones are jewish? Lets put their reasoning to the test

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 08:25 AM Genug Says:

1. who are all these "chareidim" commenting on the internet?
2. who are these experts, just repeating the balony giving them
3. shmidal & company make their loads of $$ by blackmailing construction firms
and klal yisrael
4. what happenned to the bones of the goyim inn ashkelon hospital expansion.
5. with so many avreichim in financial straits, is our prioritythe bones of esther, mordchai or yaffo, the MAHRAM Rotenberg didnt let himself, bchaim, extorted kal vchomer on the dead
6. whats next a cemetary by shmidal at aushwitz
7. see 10. the MURDER opf the fogel family, where was the crowds, halachically there is a chiyuv of being mevatil torah for them, not for sfek sfeka bones.

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 09:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Moshe4753 Says:

whats the difference if the bones were jewish or not? the bones were disturbed by the digging , and regardless if the bones were jewish or not , there should be some respect shown.

you missed #10s point, he wasn't suggesting less kovod for a non Jewsih bones, he was asking where these 'kano'im' were, at the levaya of the recent kdoshim who were murdered in Itamar ytz"v. Dare one say it? If the clothing of the neherogim is different from our chassidish, yeshivish style, they deserve less Kovod hameis than ancient Jewsih or non Jewish bones? Hashem Yerachem alayhem vynacheamem b'sh'ar aveilay tzion ... v'oleynu for not having given the proper kovod hameis to the Fogels HY"D.

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM Aryeh Says:

This is a tremendous kiddush Hashem, that heimishe yidden, even with a tiny suspicion that a meis is from a yid, they give this much kavod. Even if there is a possibility that the meis is a chazer, or worse, a tzioney, they want to say a kaddish. This is how valuable a yissishe person is, even after thousands of years, even if they were ba'ale avoda zara cv"s!

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Aryeh Says:

This is a tremendous kiddush Hashem, that heimishe yidden, even with a tiny suspicion that a meis is from a yid, they give this much kavod. Even if there is a possibility that the meis is a chazer, or worse, a tzioney, they want to say a kaddish. This is how valuable a yissishe person is, even after thousands of years, even if they were ba'ale avoda zara cv"s!

To #18. This is #10 I don't disagree with anything you said but you never answered my original question. Please do.

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 03:05 PM Get a job Says:

Pure propaganda

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 Mar 29, 2011 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:

They might, just might be burying Jew killers from ages ago.

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