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Jerusalem - Police Arrest 4 Orthodox Men Accused Of Child Abuse

Published on: August 11, 2011 07:45 AM
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Police bring lead four ultra orthodox Jewish men into a courtroom in the Magistrate's court in Jerusalem. The men were arrested suspected on pedophilia. August 11, 2011. Photo by Miriam Alster/FLASH90Jerusalem - Four ultra-Orthodox men were arrested by Jerusalem police in the past week on suspicion of sexually abusing children in their neighborhood between the ages of three and 13 over the past two to three years. According to the police, the men would lure the children into their apartments using promises of candy, money, or movies, and then would abuse the children.

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The four men, who were brought to the Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court on Thursday afternoon for a remand extension hearing, denied the charges. Police suspect one of the men of serial paedophilia, and believe he may have abused a large number of haredi children in his neighborhood. The investigation was ongoing.



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 Aug 11, 2011 at 08:08 AM Mom Says:

Baruch Hashem they are off the streets. Lets hope they receive a verdict of life imprisionment after a public trial. May Hashem comfort the victims and their famiies and loved ones.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:00 AM heimish Says:

They don't look like real yerushalmi charedi. How does a jewish boy go to some body that offers movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:04 AM TheDrZ Says:

Reply to #1  
Mom Says:

Baruch Hashem they are off the streets. Lets hope they receive a verdict of life imprisionment after a public trial. May Hashem comfort the victims and their famiies and loved ones.

@#1 Who says these charges are true??? They may be true, but remember, this is Israel, and they have a strong reputation for making up charges. My friend was stitched up by Israeli police, B’H he was able to prove it in court.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:16 AM dunno Says:

4 men? is this one gang who worked together?

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:20 AM Anonymous Says:

To Mom: I'm sure what you meant to say was "let's hope that they are innocent and justice will be proven in court"

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:23 AM ExpatriateOwl Says:

If the guy had been wearing one of those black fedora hats, he would be able to cover up his face for the cameras much better.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 09:44 AM Anonymous Says:

Please before you write they might be innocent

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM bigwheeel Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Please before you write they might be innocent

But they might also be guilty as charged....! What! somebody dreamed that they did all the bad things they are accused off?! + their names. And the Police arrested them on the basis of someone's dream?!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 10:37 AM Anonymous Says:

Perhaps they might be innocent, however children are being abused and there has to be a stop to that. These are sick people and need therapy desperately.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM Anonymous Says:

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heimish Says:

They don't look like real yerushalmi charedi. How does a jewish boy go to some body that offers movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only two of the four are yerushalmi chareidim. As to your question, I'm not sure that yerushalmi are any more or less prone to pedophelia than any other segment of the chareidim, so its really not important if they are "real" or not. B'h, these dreche are off the streets and if found guilty, hopefully they will never be able to see the light of day again and any children they may have will be taken away from them.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM Josh Wander Says:

They are as Orthodox as I am Catholic!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:16 AM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:

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heimish Says:

They don't look like real yerushalmi charedi. How does a jewish boy go to some body that offers movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what does a "real yerushalmi charedi" look like? Perhaps you will describe on for us?

As for your second question, it is so preposterous that it is not worthy of any comment whatsoever,

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM N0Name Says:

Why do we as jews find it hard to accept at face value there are people in our world that are capable of this. I understand we are to give every benefit of the doubt.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM Anonymous Says:

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Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:

So what does a "real yerushalmi charedi" look like? Perhaps you will describe on for us?

As for your second question, it is so preposterous that it is not worthy of any comment whatsoever,

A true Yerushalmi chareidi is NOT a chassid and generally looks like any other litvashe yid who is not dressed in the lvush of a specific chassidus. Some wear Shtreimlach, but most don't....they don't look like MOs with kippah segurahs

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Being dan lkaf zechus only goes so far. NOT at the expense of a child's well being. I pose a question for you doubtful people to ponder. Let's say they were not arrested and actually live down the block from you and your children. Let's say a neighbor of yours told you that you should watch out and be weary of them because they have information about them that is very disconcerting. Would you send your child out to play in front of your house without watching them at this point because your neighbor must be incorrect. Or maybe you did not listen to your neighbors words in the first place and stuck your fingers in your ears yelling "loshon hara". For those of you who will wait for a trial and verdict to accept that they may be guilty (and then some of you will still try, ignorantly, to prove they are not really jewish or they must be balei tshuva {as if that makes a difference} - or the verdict is wrong and innocent people are going to jail, etc....) that is too long to wait to protect your children. This happens every where, within every race and religion including real life Judaism, including Orthodoxy. For those still deluded, I pray your children remain safe.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM whats the problem? Says:

I think just like New York now pushes Gay Marriage, the next taboo to fall should be Pedophilia. Adults should be able to marry children if they have a commited and loving relationship. We need marriage equality for all including children. The descrimination must end. New York especially needs to work on this now that Sex Ed is becoming mandatory in the public schools. There will inevitably be a drop in children due to fertility control and this will negatively impact the New York city Economy. By allowing Pedophiles to marry children we will be creating a whole new marriage industry and bring needed revenues into our economy which we desperately need to make up for the shorfall due to the police writing less traffic summonses. Bloomberg you dope,start touting this great idea. Also how about some pedestrian plazas for outdoor cafes in Borough Park. this will reduce traffic and stop Global Warming. With all the hot air from the Democrats we need to fight the Global Warming problem quickly. C'mon Coumo get on the Bandwagon and support a Pedophile Pride Parade down Fifth Avenue. Lets Go Perverts!!!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM Leibel From London Says:

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Josh Wander Says:

They are as Orthodox as I am Catholic!

Josh Wander Says: Says:
“ They are as Orthodox as I am Catholic! ”

With a name like yours, Josh, you might well be the "first Catholic"!

Best wishes to you from "war torn" London.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Thank G-d in the frum world, the awareness and action against pedophiles is becoming more accepted. We need to prevent any more future victims and help those who have, unfortunately already suffered. It is just so painful to read news like this - we are supposed to be a holy nation. It hurts to keep reading over and over again about men who go to shul and daven, put on tefilin, keep shabbos, eat kosher and ABUSE CHILDREN!!!!!!!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Only two of the four are yerushalmi chareidim. As to your question, I'm not sure that yerushalmi are any more or less prone to pedophelia than any other segment of the chareidim, so its really not important if they are "real" or not. B'h, these dreche are off the streets and if found guilty, hopefully they will never be able to see the light of day again and any children they may have will be taken away from them.

What is the word you use "dreche" what language is it? I have never heard it used other than by a commenter who tried to make people feel he was a Jew who spoke yiddish.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 12:49 PM JewAtHeart Says:

Who said they are guilty?

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM SherryTheNoahide Says:

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whats the problem? Says:

I think just like New York now pushes Gay Marriage, the next taboo to fall should be Pedophilia. Adults should be able to marry children if they have a commited and loving relationship. We need marriage equality for all including children. The descrimination must end. New York especially needs to work on this now that Sex Ed is becoming mandatory in the public schools. There will inevitably be a drop in children due to fertility control and this will negatively impact the New York city Economy. By allowing Pedophiles to marry children we will be creating a whole new marriage industry and bring needed revenues into our economy which we desperately need to make up for the shorfall due to the police writing less traffic summonses. Bloomberg you dope,start touting this great idea. Also how about some pedestrian plazas for outdoor cafes in Borough Park. this will reduce traffic and stop Global Warming. With all the hot air from the Democrats we need to fight the Global Warming problem quickly. C'mon Coumo get on the Bandwagon and support a Pedophile Pride Parade down Fifth Avenue. Lets Go Perverts!!!

"I think just like New York now pushes Gay Marriage, the next taboo to fall should be Pedophilia. Adults should be able to marry children if they have a commited and loving relationship. We need marriage equality for all including children."

#16, I know that you were only being sarcastic with these postings, but your argument really IS absurd.

Regardless of how you feel towards homosexuality: to compare 2 ADULTS, who through their OWN FREE WILL, choose to be in a committed relationship with one another...to deviant monsters that prey on little children, is really a twisted & sordid way to look at the Gay-Rights movement!

You won't find me out on the street helping these Marriage-Equality people, ok? (lol) But at the same time... I don't have to compare them to CHILD MOLESTERS in order to make my point about the sanctity of marriage!

For anyone who thinks calling these people names, persecuting them, equating them to the lowest of the low in our society (pedophiles), etc., will somehow "win them over to the Torah's side of things"... you are sorely mistaken!

Also, statistically, these comparisons don't make sense! FACT: Molesters usually live "Straight" & harm kids in secret!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 01:43 PM wisconsinyid Says:

If they really are guilty, then we need to stand behind these poor boys and make sure these men are PUNISHED on behalf of the Jewish community! Does it really help us to support those of us who make us look bad? Who weaken us??

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 02:57 PM joeynathan Says:

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Mom Says:

Baruch Hashem they are off the streets. Lets hope they receive a verdict of life imprisionment after a public trial. May Hashem comfort the victims and their famiies and loved ones.

what happens if it comes out that they are innocent. what happens then

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 03:00 PM AL-Coholic Says:

GREAT!

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 03:27 PM FreezerSpace Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

To Mom: I'm sure what you meant to say was "let's hope that they are innocent and justice will be proven in court"

As much as i would like them to be innocent, we keep hearing more and more of the same thing from the Jewish community these days so it would not shock me if they were guilty.

If they are in fact guilty, let us hope they are sentenced to the full extent of the law. There is no justifiable punishment for what they have done. They could ruin, and probably have ruined the lives of Jewish children.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 08:26 PM Chaim_Ben-Yehuda Says:

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joeynathan Says:

what happens if it comes out that they are innocent. what happens then

" what happens then"

That possibility has clearly never entered Mom #1's mind. And I doubt that it ever will.

Like so many others here she is quick to pre-judge others without being in full possession of all the facts. In a word, she is PREJUDICED.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 07:42 PM esther Says:

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heimish Says:

They don't look like real yerushalmi charedi. How does a jewish boy go to some body that offers movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

re the movies,you're kidding right?

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 07:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
whats the problem? Says:

I think just like New York now pushes Gay Marriage, the next taboo to fall should be Pedophilia. Adults should be able to marry children if they have a commited and loving relationship. We need marriage equality for all including children. The descrimination must end. New York especially needs to work on this now that Sex Ed is becoming mandatory in the public schools. There will inevitably be a drop in children due to fertility control and this will negatively impact the New York city Economy. By allowing Pedophiles to marry children we will be creating a whole new marriage industry and bring needed revenues into our economy which we desperately need to make up for the shorfall due to the police writing less traffic summonses. Bloomberg you dope,start touting this great idea. Also how about some pedestrian plazas for outdoor cafes in Borough Park. this will reduce traffic and stop Global Warming. With all the hot air from the Democrats we need to fight the Global Warming problem quickly. C'mon Coumo get on the Bandwagon and support a Pedophile Pride Parade down Fifth Avenue. Lets Go Perverts!!!

Your poor attempt at humor elicited not even a smidgeon of a smile. Really, if you were a comedien you'd have been met with boos or at the very best an uncomfortable silence. Stick with your day job.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM haroldk Says:

"Ultra-Orthodox men" ""Ultra"" Sounds like laundry detergent or dishwashing soap

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:

What makes these pe'ere odom orthodox? They are more reform than the shrimp eating, shabbos driving, wouldn't be caught dead in tefillin Jews and I for one believe they should be remanded forever.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:00 PM esther Says:

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Shaul in Monsey Says:

What makes these pe'ere odom orthodox? They are more reform than the shrimp eating, shabbos driving, wouldn't be caught dead in tefillin Jews and I for one believe they should be remanded forever.

shaul,you don't understand what reform actually means or you wouldn't insult hundreds of thousands of jews who identify with that title.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM Leon Zacharowicz MD Says:

Child abuse, including child sexual abuse, occurs in all societies. We are not immune. The sooner we accept that reality, and take concrete steps to educate our children regarding child safety, and the sooner we see to it that the proper authorities are notified expeditiously to investigate such venal crimes, the better we will protect our children and eliminate this scourge.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. Denial serves to enable pedophiles to continue their crimes, as does the reluctance to involve the authorities when there is reasonable suspicion that child abuse or neglect is going on.

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 Aug 11, 2011 at 11:34 PM Get your head out of the Sand Says:

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joeynathan Says:

what happens if it comes out that they are innocent. what happens then

How innocent can they be? what would motivate several if not many children to point to the same men as having been lured there to be abused. Wake up!!! I hope you aren't a parent. I'd worry for your children...

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 Aug 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM SC Says:

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heimish Says:

They don't look like real yerushalmi charedi. How does a jewish boy go to some body that offers movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heimish- Does it matter if they offered movies or some time to learn a page of gemara????? What difference does it make what they look like? Morality has no garb!

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