Egypt – Thousands of palm fronds have been smuggled from Egypt and have made their way to Israel and the United States, veteran palm frond traders said Monday, despite the Egyptian ban on their export ahead of the upcoming Sukkot holiday.
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One of the traders told Haaretz that the lulavim were transferred from Egypt via Jordan to Israel and Jewish communities in New York and other big cities in the U.S. One senior official in Cairo received $100,000 to aid in smuggling the palm fronds outside of Egypt.
Just wondering if anyone knows if this poses a problem of “lulav hagazul”.
If they went through all this just to make a buck, when there are plenty of other lulavim available (maybe not as gourgous and stunning, but kosher lchol hadayos, no less), it should raise questions if everything else, besides the smuggling, is legit. I would stay far away and get something more “clean”.
Smuggled???
Waht about Lulav Ha’gozel?
Amazing, u manage to do it and cant keep your mouth shut?
I guess those tunnels into Gaza can come in handy for the Jews sometimes also.
There are many exceptions to the concept of lulav hagaul such as the inyan of when the gazalah was undertaken “l’shem mitzvah”.
Any law which is promulgated only against Jews does not have the stauts of dina demalchusa so there was not gezeila. The owners were paid their sum
A. They’re not stolen, just smuggled.
B. It’s only lulav hagazul if the maaseh gezeila happens simultaneously with the asiyas hamitzva. Then it’s mitzva habah baveira.
C. Even if it was stolen, which there’s no evidence of, after yi’ush and shinui reshus there’s no issue.
So shake away!
Amazing how desperate some people are to support peaceful, friendly peace loving Arabs of that great peaceful, friendly, peace loving nation of peaceful, friendly, peace loving Muslims.
A. They’re not stolen, just smuggled.
B. It’s only lulav hagazul if the maaseh gezeila happens simultaneously with the asiyas hamitzva. Then it’s mitzva habah baveira.
C. Even if it was stolen, which there’s no evidence of, after yi’ush and shinui reshus there’s no issue.
So shake away!
Why should Jews support the Egyptian economy when they hate us?
Still, top get a decent lulav this year, they are charging $15 to $20 extra in Brooklyn.
The “yechi” charachter in the picture is doing something unecessay in scrutinizing the luilav for the end. To passul the lulav the hook or bend must be significant. Being perfectly streight might look nicer but it is not a halachic hiddur.