Southampton, NY – A judge has ruled that the East End Eruv Association cannot string a temporary religious boundary, known as an eruv, along telephone poles in the Western part of Southampton and along the borders of Westhampton Beach and Quogue Villages.
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The long-awaited injuction decision, which is part of a civil suit filed by the association in January, was rendered by Judge Leonard D. Wexler of the United States District Court in Central Islip last Thursday and says that the EEEA’s request to install a thin wire, known as “lechis,” to signify a religious boundry “is not ripe” because the organization failed to apply for permits to install the lechis via the municipalities involved.
“Under the circumstances,” the ruling reads, “it appears that the Sign Ordinance is at least arguably applicable to the lechis, such that whether the Sign Ordinance applies to the attachment of lechis to utility poles in Southampton should be an issue for Southampton to decide in the first instance.”
The EEEA, which is claiming in its civil suit that the municipalities infringed on its members’ religious rights, had hoped the judge would approve a temporary injunction so Orthodox Jews could push strollers and engage in tasks otherwise not allowed on the Sabbath while the civil matter was decided. However, the plaintiffs did not show that “irreperable harm” would result should relief not be granted, according to the ruling.
Hank Sheinkopf, spokesman for EEEA, said the decision carries both good and bad news.
“There is plenty of good news in the decision and the battle of religious freedom will continue. It’s not a bad day, just another day,” he said, noting that EEEA’s lawyers are exploring options.
The community has been sharply divided over the creation of an eruv ever since a proposal was first put on the table by Rabbi Marc Schneir of the Hampton Synagogue in 2008.
Members of Jewish People Opposed to the Eruv, led by founder Arnold Sheiffer, met to discuss strategies meant to thwart plans for an eruv, which they believe would significantly lessen property values and destroy the bucolic quality of life in the area forever.
Not having an Eruv does not limit religious rights.
What a ridiculous lawsuit.
The halachah is relatively clear that u need permission from the local authorities to have an eiruv, so this is not a freedom of religion issue, it is a halachic one
Now it is clear, Frum Yidden and Blacks are not welcome in Southampton.
It is not critical for frum yidden live in the Hamptons when their are beautiful mansions and villas that can be purchased in Monsey and the Catskills at a much lower price,a much greater choice in shuls, yeshivot and mikvahs but where there is a much more receptive environment to yiddeshkeit in general. Otherwise, just manage on the weekends and don’t walk too far or carry your stuff to shul and back.
#1 it is jews like you who oppose it. The gentiles have no issues against it . And it is jews like you who mock any issues on these sites thats nogayah to kedushas am yisroel eg: separate seating on busses, women ‘rabbis’ etc etc and it is jews lioe you who bring the charon af and midas hadin on klall yiroel
#10 : ” If you ask and are denied permission for any reason, that can be mean-spirited or even bigoted, but it doesn’t infringe on any “right” you have, religious or otherwise.”
Actually, no. Due Process and Equal Protection, as well as a slew of state and federal statutes, prohibit a decision being based on anything but a dispassionate application of the rule. If the permit was denied becase a gov’t official doesn’t like Jews, it *does* infringe on rights held by a protected class (i.e. religion).
As one who most here would refer to as a secular Jew, I find it sad that many of those who protested the hardest against the Eruv were members of the local Jewish community. It is obvious that the locals refuse to be associated with anything that is too Jewish and may offend the local Gentiles. Those in the local Jewish community who have been opposing this really should be ashamed of themselves, but probably won’t be…..if they think this will ever get them real acceptence from many of the Gentiles they are only kiding themselves.
“….an eruv, which they believe would significantly lessen property values and destroy the bucolic quality of life in the area forever.” In other words, if the town attracts more Sabbath observant Jews then other “more desirable elements” will seek either to leave or abandon the place. The end result will be the ruination their judenrein paradise.
#15 the pope can also be kovaih ittim, any gentile can also be honest in busuiness. But from your posts all over your closer to conservative and down at the the most, MO. Whenever there is a haskafa issue you and your friends are on the other side and i leave it up to your imagin. which. YOUR education does in no way shape or form conftibute to your yiras shomayin just the opposite
#27 you make us laff(,laugh, to you) …conservative, MO (maybe add christian) yiras sumayim?? Someone who doesnt believe in torah min hashomayim and practices only what he feels comfortalbe you call ‘yiras shomayim’?? Yes, Yes i d like to compare how OUR kind of offspring look like as opposed to yours. Keihn ein horah me all my brothers, sister in laws have einiklech eireiniklec who and go in the same derech as our grand and great granfathers etc etc. they are even more than us and thats what counts not mah spellin and mah readin, sheaksphers etc wonder how yours look . actually i dont.YES as you say ,but we are all child molestors, dishonest , etc etc, And all mah children are in business b’h contracters graphics etc without poigem thier kedusha etc comparitively more hatzlach lehavdil then colledge grads
#27 your last 2 lines..you forgot to include madoff and a couple of doz of your other cronies
#30 still waiting for intelligrnt (ok take out the ‘r’ and replace it with’ e’ dont have time for that) reply….
# 30 ok.that is why you assimilated jews hate the ehrliche yidden and fight against eiruv because i take drugs, i am mentally deficient, illiterate, am embarrasment (sorry, you fix up the spellin’ for me)for chassidim (which i am not,by the way)
Your hate chassidim, aka shomreui torah umitzvos, anyway so what does it make worse to your ilk if i am an embrrasement to them? So lets repea,t the gentiles have no qualm about the eiruv but you, soinei yiroel, are the ones who always put up resisstance. Pshat is ‘GEDOLEI SINAS AM HAURETZ LETALMUD CHACHAM YOSER MISINUS AKUM L’YISROEL’ By the way you dont understand a word of my illiterate, drug induced, embarressment to chassidim spellin’ and copriension(i know you spell it differently) but seems to me you understand enough that you really boiled over …
# 33 parag 2. You mean to say that I can desecrate all taryag mitzvous be a ‘jew’ like you, reform, christian etc and its all the same to riboni shel oilom ? wow your really educated and I am big am huretz..
#33 Didnt realize i stepped on your toe that hard.